Helen, Your mother was right about Watkins vanilla being the best kind - I have a bottle of it that a friend of mine gave me, and I always use it. It is a large bottle, so it will probably last a long, long time! Our "Watkins Man," as we always called him, was Mr. Moudy; I remember him as always wearing a black suit and white shirt - probably a tie, too. Can you imagine that in the hot summertime! There was also a Watkins salve that came in a large, round, green tin box. It seems like we always had some of that on hand. Just a little something else to think about. Betty

Hello, List. Can anyone give me any info on ELISHA C. LAUDERDALE & MELVINA M. STINSON? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Esther

The Foxfire books are also a great source for people who want to know more about how our ancestors lived. Wayne In a message dated 8/14/01 4:03:57 AM EST, TNSUMNER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Hi Friends, Please post only genealogy and history as it relates to Sumner Co. TN to the Sumner Co. Mailing List. For those who want to share memories in general here are some sites I found. Back to the Past http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/BACKTOTHEPAST.html "Topic: A mailing list for people who want to discuss old stories and photos that help to place the lives of our ancestors in context. " They have a webpage at: http://freepages.nostalgia.rootsweb.com/~backtothepast/ Even includes the a link for the topic of outhouses. Here is another: Homespun http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/HOMESPUN.html "Topic: those who want to have a bit of fun reminiscing. Subscribers are welcome to share memories, traditions, poems, humor, stories, recipes, folklore and home remedies." Here is another: TN-Memories http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TN-MEMORIES.html No description of the list, but a link to the list host to ask questions. Hope this helps. Diane Payne >>

Dempsey Hunter was a brother of Reuben, Cader and Needham Hunter. These fellows were among 16 or so siblings, children of Reuben Hunter and Sarah Speight. The 16 children were all born in Wake County, NC between 1761 and 1786. Reuben, jr., Cader and Needham (at least these 3) all came to Sumner County before about 1810. Cader Hunter was my ggggg grandfather. Does anyone have any information on these descendants of Reuben Hunter, sr., after their arrival in Sumner County? Burial places, other counties where they lived, etc.? rdcarter@televar.com wrote: > My g-g grandfather was Reuben Wills Hunter, b.8/3/1800 in TN. His father was Dempsey, born in NC. My g-grandfather was Andrew Jackson Hunter, b. 6/19/1846 in Sumner Co., TN. Reuben Wills married Lucinda Goffe. He may have been the same Reuben Hunter who was witness at the marriages of several Brigances in Sumner Co. His children, besides A. J., were William Davis, Martha Jane, James Alexander, Robert Hatten, Zachariah Tally, George Washington, and Lucy Ann Virginia. I don't know of any son or grandson named Reuben, but I suspect that he may have had brothers close by and your Reuben could have been a nephew. Sorry that I don't have any positive info. Much of the info I have came from the "History of the Polk Co.(Missouri) Baptist Association." This was a family record for my ancestors so there isn't anything on anyone else except the wives and children.

(((For your info))) A original will of 1874 has been located at the Marshall Co Ky Arcives Benton, Ky,, of a Enos Vaughn family and it is a large book and he signed each page personally, he being a very wealthy man for the time period.. Claude -----Original Message----- From: camilla.vaughn@us.danzas.com <camilla.vaughn@us.danzas.com> To: TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com <TNSUMNER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:59 AM Subject: [TNSUMNER] Re: James Vaughn and ? Hughes > > >My grandfather told me that the Vaughn family came from VA. His dad's dad which he is not sure of is name Sandy Vaughn. He said that he ran away from home when he was 13 or 16 not for sure. I'm from a small town call Waynesboro GA. My grandfathers name is Buster Vaughn Jr. (Josh). He is from Midville GA. We really don't know much about the Vaughn family, but would love to know more. . > > > > >

My grandfather told me that the Vaughn family came from VA. His dad's dad which he is not sure of is name Sandy Vaughn. He said that he ran away from home when he was 13 or 16 not for sure. I'm from a small town call Waynesboro GA. My grandfathers name is Buster Vaughn Jr. (Josh). He is from Midville GA. We really don't know much about the Vaughn family, but would love to know more. .

Speaking of the Watkins man, after my Mother's death in 1985, I found some Watkins Vanilla Flavoring in the pantry. She was an excellent cook, and she always felt the Watkins Vanilla was superior to the brands in the grocery stores. Thanks for the Memory, Helen Gant Donald

I personally enjoy the memories stories. They jog my mind and bring up memories I had long buried in there somewhere. I remember the Jewel Tea man and the Watkins dealers. I also remember the outhouse and could relate to that story. I remember going to a funeral in a church--I believe in Halltown--and there was no air conditioning and all the ladies and some men had those paper fans with religious pictures on one side. This was an August funeral and I had a paper fan in each hand. It still got so hot in the church that I was so glad when the minister was finished and I could go outside and get some AIR! This was my great-grandmother's funeral and I was only about five years old (late '50's) but I remember this because it was so hot. We did not have air conditioning at home but it was nicer than being in this old hot church. Speaking of air conditioning...my brother and I slept together for a few years and we use to fight over who was going to sleep on the side of the bed where the fan was! Pam Vick

Is Margaret A BLACKMORE wife of James Alexander HODGES related to this family? She and Alexander were wed 11 Oct. 1849 in Sumner, Co. However, I have no other information on her. He was the son of William HODGES and Sarah "Sally" WEST was also the brother to my gr-gr-gr grandmother, Mary Clay HODGES TAYLOR Martie Genealogy Entwines The Past and Future ~You Become A Mere Branch On A Growing Tree That Never Needs Pruning, Just Your Tender Loving Care

Hi Friends, Please post only genealogy and history as it relates to Sumner Co. TN to the Sumner Co. Mailing List. For those who want to share memories in general here are some sites I found. Back to the Past http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/BACKTOTHEPAST.html "Topic: A mailing list for people who want to discuss old stories and photos that help to place the lives of our ancestors in context. " They have a webpage at: http://freepages.nostalgia.rootsweb.com/~backtothepast/ Even includes the a link for the topic of outhouses. Here is another: Homespun http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/HOMESPUN.html "Topic: those who want to have a bit of fun reminiscing. Subscribers are welcome to share memories, traditions, poems, humor, stories, recipes, folklore and home remedies." Here is another: TN-Memories http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/TN-MEMORIES.html No description of the list, but a link to the list host to ask questions. Hope this helps. Diane Payne

The obit of Clarice Shannon Wilkerson of White House is in today's Tennessean. http://tennessean.com/ Joyce

If we are going to be allowed to reminisce on the Sumner page I see no need to start another page...I was stomped by a couple of people for sending in my articles re Peddler men, etc, and then warned by someone I assumed was the list manager to keep it to genealogy...and that is why I thought we weren't allowed to talk about the Good old days on here...Jeannie T ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Is James decended from George Dawson Blackmore? Amy Murphy wrote: > Has anyone heard of the Blackmore home owned by James Blackmore and wife, Lola in the late 1800's and early 1900's? I have found some wonderful pictures of this home and the people who lived there.

I typed in the address wrong on this last night and it came back...trying again....Jeannie T I bet you've left your front porch and gone in to bed , but I'm going to write to you anyhow...maybe theres a few" night owl's " still rocking and watching the lightening bugs court ! Seeing a fox peek out of the bushes as I drove down a country road made me think of how I used to go out and sit with Daddy as he listened to the neighbors hounds running foxes, back when I was a little girl....He would sit on the chopping block and I would find a chunk of wood for myself, and I would sit there and help him listen to the dogs as the fox had his fun with them...He knew the "voices " of each dog, and would name off the dog and the neighbor it belonged to...He didn't smoke, but somehow I see him sitting there quietly smoking a pipe, the smoke wreathing his head... Going fox hunting was what decided him to be a teetotaler ! He went with the neighbors, and they built a big bonfire to set around and swap tales as they listened to their dogs" run ." When it was time to head for home the neighbor and his big strapping sons were so drunk Dad had to help them to the car and drive them home...They must have disgusted him pretty badly, because he told Mama , "If that's what it does to you, I don't want nothing to do with it ! " I never knew of him taking a drink or smoking tobacco...except " rabbit tobacco' in the corn cob pipe he made, so he could blow the warm smoke in our ears...That made him sick , but he did it to try and help us little kids. Brother Robert said he remembered a fox story from when he was about 6 years old ... " We were outside one night and heard an awful howling and strange noises from some wild animals off in the distance. A couple of the neighbors heard it too and came over...they wondered what it could be, because it was definitely a large bunch of animals. They didn't come to any conclusions ,so the next day a group of the men got their guns and went out to discover what made all that awful noise. I was too small to go , ( about 6), and waited impatiently for them to come back with some sort of strange wild animals and maybe some of the men hurt or killed. When they came in sight I ran to meet them and very excitedly asked them what they had found. They were somewhat abashed but finally one of the men said all the weird howling and noise had been done by some foxes that had some dens over in the fields. They hadn't gotten a single fox , and since they weren't causing any problems it was decided to just leave them alone. After finding that it wasn't anything dangerous Dad took me with him when he went back over there to check the place out a couple of weeks later. I didn't know what to expect but it was disappointing to find some washed out gullies and some holes dug back in the banks. We didn't even see any foxes. That scene took all the excitement out of the adventure ! . " I am rather surprised that these foxes weren't raiding every hen house within miles, but maybe at that particular time there was an overabundance of field mice and jack rabbits... I didn't think Foxes usually lived in packs, but he says there was 8 or 10 dens in this place... so maybe the odd noises everyone heard was a bunch of them courting ....I have heard they make strange noises, for sure! On nights when sounds carry clearly for a long way it must have sounded frightening indeed... Happy hunting for good dreams tonight ! Jeannie T ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

My g-g grandfather was Reuben Wills Hunter, b.8/3/1800 in TN. His father was Dempsey, born in NC. My g-grandfather was Andrew Jackson Hunter, b. 6/19/1846 in Sumner Co., TN. Reuben Wills married Lucinda Goffe. He may have been the same Reuben Hunter who was witness at the marriages of several Brigances in Sumner Co. His children, besides A. J., were William Davis, Martha Jane, James Alexander, Robert Hatten, Zachariah Tally, George Washington, and Lucy Ann Virginia. I don't know of any son or grandson named Reuben, but I suspect that he may have had brothers close by and your Reuben could have been a nephew. Sorry that I don't have any positive info. Much of the info I have came from the "History of the Polk Co.(Missouri) Baptist Association." This was a family record for my ancestors so there isn't anything on anyone else except the wives and children.

I can't believe Aunt Minnie is still living. I am happy about it though. I understand what you mean about the family. My Mom had "harding of the arteries in the brain" so the term went at that time. I have an older sister now who is said to have "Alzheimers" she is 79. It is so sad to see the ones we love in this shape. I can also remember my Mom talking about Aunt Ruthie as getting very disturbed in her older age. It sure makes me stop and think about the future. I too will get my stuff together for you. School is getting ready to start soon, so I am overloaded right now with work. (I work at the Wisconsin School for the Deaf) here in Delavan. I'll close on a happy note - my youngest daughter just gave birth to another son. He was born 8/9/01, weighed in at 9 lbs and 21 inches long. They named him Jaxon Andrew. (Jaxon is pronounced like "Jackson" just spelled differently. Take care. Sue

Check under Family Album on this website "In Memory of My Graves Ancestors" by Amy Graves Woodham. She lists John Wilson Graves as her grandfather. Are you cousins? She has John Wilson's parents as William Sanford Graves and Martha Susan Anglea.

I couldn't have said it better, Joyce, and would like only to add: a list for storytelling would be detrimental to both the existing list and the new list. It just doesn't make sense. Helen CBStark@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 08/11/2001 10:35:43 PM Central Daylight Time, > hgdonald@leo.infi.net writes: > > > I haven't heard (read) any complaints > > about the discussion of history....including from the List Administrator. > > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. > > A list limited to names, dates, and places is about as interesting and > entertaining as reading the telephone book. By the same token, a list made > up of nothing but pleasant memories would soon grow old. > > We have the best of two worlds so let it be. > > Joyce

HI, I have belonged to several other lists that have "argued" over information that is not only names, dates, relationships, and dates. In both instances the "bickering" has ended in hard feelings and people leaving the lists. I enjoy the stories ~ when I have time to read them,. When I don't - I delete. If there was another list, I wouldn''t make the time to subscribe and keep up. I already sub to about 20 for all my different families and counties. To me it all belongs on the same list, with people using appropriate Subject headings, so we can all choose to delet or not to delete. I do the same then when a family I'm not researching is in the heading and I'm pressed for time. If the list is split I know I could miss info I'd otherwise read. Thanks for listening. Teri

Sherry, Thanks for the memories. It reminds me of some fond memories of my own even tho I am from the "just under 70" group. Lowell Brown SFalcon555@aol.com wrote: > > Hello to all, > > I'm a member of the "under 45" crowd, but I can still remember the days when > outhouses were used. Of course, some weren't so fortunate as to have an > outhouse. > > I was a child of the 60's and 70's, and I remember well the house that my > grandparents lived in that had no indoor "facility". Their "facility" was a > Folgers can. And, for more serious jobs, there was "the henhouse". > > As kids, we were usually outdoors romping and playing and, instead of running > inside, we'd duck into the henhouse. Thanks to Grandmother's tales of > encounters with snakes, of robbing the hens' nests and feeling something > slick and cool to the touch, I made only the fastest of pitstops. > > Even though I curse a computer five days a week, I look back on those days > with the warmest of affection. "Ma and Pa" lived in "a holler" that was > peaceful and serene. We would bed-down on an old sofa that opened up to be > big as a single bed. On those starless nights we'd bed-down there. Once the > flashlight went off, it didn't matter how wide I opened my eyes, I could see > nothing, not even the smallest glimmer of light. > > Kids these days want Pokeman and Digimon, the more techno- the better. Not > for us. I guess kids today would think we were nuts if we suggested some of > the games we'd play. We made games of what we saw around us. We three girls > would play "house" or "tend-like". We'd pretend-like we were making dinner. > We'd set an impressive table full of wild green onions and wild strawberries > and anything we could forage from the drying and dead vegetable garden. And, > we made the finest mudpies in the county. > > We'd gather crinoid stems out of the creek gravel and call it "Indian money". > We'd pick the clover-flowers and tied them together into chain necklaces. > Heck, we'd get at the top of a steep little hill and see who could roll down > it the fastest. We'd gather arms full of autumn leaves and see who could > throw them the farthest. > > Ma always let me feed the chickens or go with her to rob the hens' nests. > I'd even look on as they skinned a squirrel or rabbit and beg for the fluffy > tail. In the fall, I'd sit and watch as they cut apart the hog and set aside > the fat. Later, we'd look on as they dragged out the big black iron "kittle" > and render up "the hog-lard" over an open fire. > > We loved trying to catch the baby chicks just so we could pet them. And yes, > mother had a sharp little beak. Seems there was always a litter of "huntin' > dog" pups to hold and play with. I'll never forget that yelp they'd let > loose when they "jumped a rabbit" for my Grandpa. And when the season would > open, we'd look forward to a platter full of barbecued rabbit or squirrel. > > We girls could always be found at our favorite hang-out, the creek that > meandered through the property. We'd gather water cress, and wade the creek > during the brutal summer sun. Any fall or early winter would see us > wandering aimlessly up through the hills behind Grandma's house. Often, we'd > come back with a pocket full of hickory nuts or "horse chestnuts" that we'd > use to play games. > > Whenever I think about burning the midnight oil to keep from losing an > account or working toward an impossible deadline, I think back to those days > and suddenly, life is once again in perfect perspective. > > Sherry