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    1. Re: TNSMITH-D Digest V05 #309
    2. Re Frances / Fanny Kemp Hi Mary, I don't personally have any documents stating that the maiden name of Frances / Fanny Carter was Kemp, but according to other relatives, Frances Kemp is the name listed on the death certificate of her youngest son, Houston Carter, who was born in about 1847 in Warren County, KY. I am hoping to receive a copy of the Houston's death certificate within the next few days. Also, with the exception of the initials JF that were engraved on the grave marker of one of her sons, as far as I know, the only way her name is ever listed is Frances or Fanny. Thanks for your help ~ Judy

    09/25/2005 05:24:11
    1. Re: [TNSMITH] Re: TNSMITH-D Digest V05 #309
    2. Mary Knight
    3. Ok Judy, I'm going to tell you what I think but her age is off about 3 to 4 years according to census from your Frances. Don't take any of this as fact because I don't know for sure and don't know for sure how to prove it. But this is the only Kemp daughter I could come up with that was anywhere close to your Francis. I did look on Warren Co. KY website and it appears your Frances died in 1927? You can probably get her death certificate and see if it lists her parents. If your not familiar with Cal's column that is transcribed online. This may confuse you so if you have questions please ask. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ccarticles/may17-AB-1951.htm "Jack and Barbara Jones Kemp were the parents of: Peggy Kemp, married a Carter; Aulsey Kemp, married a Wakefield; Allen Kemp, married a McClellan, Dycus and a Sadler; Ben, was of feeble mental power; Willie Kemp, married a Clark; Jane Kemp, married a Wakefield; Betsy Kemp, no further record; Tilda Kemp, married a Russell; and later Edler V. Sanders, a Baptist Minister." Let me pick apart this statement from Cal's column on the children of John "Jack" Kemp and Barbara Jones Kemp. 1. Cal lists a child Peggy Kemp married a CARTER. I find no Peggy or Margaret Kemp listed among the children of John & Barbara in any of the census records. 2. Aulsey Kemp (Ausie Peyton Kemp, from his death certificate) married Mary Josephine Wakefield 3. Allen Kemp married Arabella Elizabeth Sadler abt 1882, I have yet to find a McClellan and Dycus marriage for him. 4. Ben, of feeble mental power - I find no Ben in the census records of John and Barbara's children. And nothing noting anything wrong with any of them. If there was a Ben it was either a nickname of one of the children or he died before ever showing up in any census? 5. Willie Kemp - This one's a puzzle. I don't know if Cal' is talking about son William or Wyley when he says "Willie". In any case he only mentions one of them. I'm going to skip info on these two for now. 6. Jane married a Wakefield. I believe this might be incorrect also. I'm working on this. But I think this Jane Kemp may have married William H. Kirby whose mother was a Wakefield. More on her later also. 7. Betsy or Elizabeth, I have nothing further on her either. 8. Tilda married a Russell & later Edler V. Sanders, I have not found her with either of her husbands yet. Now looking at census info on John & Barbara Jones Kemp's family. 1850 Smith County Census. Kemp John 36 b. TN farmer Kemp Barbara 36 b. TN Kemp Betsey 9 b. TN Kemp Alsey 7 b. TN (listed as female should be male) Kemp Judy 6 b. TN (ca 1844) Kemp Allen 4 b. TN Kemp Matilda 2 b. TN Kemp Jane 3/12 b. TN Alsey age 7 is should be listed as male not female and is Ausie Peyton Kemp. 1860 Smith Co. Kemp Rebecca 46 (Barbara) Kemp Elizabeth 20 Kemp Alice 18 ( again listed as female, but I believe this is Ausie Peyton Kemp) Kemp Juda B. 17 (f) (ca 1843) (this I think may be who Cal refers to as Peggy who married a Carter?) Kemp Allen 13 Kemp Matilda 8 Kemp James 7 (this should be Jane?) Kemp Wyly 6 Kemp Wm. 4 http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1860/0281a.gif If you look at the image on this it's very hard to make out Barbara's name. Also look at Juda B. personally I'm not sure that the middle initial is a "B"? But I don't know what it is, it doesn't look like and "F" either. 1870 Macon. Co. Kemp Barbee 56 Kemp Allen 24 Kemp Matilda 21 Kemp Jane 19 (listed as James in 1860?, I think this is the Jane Kemp that married William H. Kirby) Kemp Willie 18 (must be Wyly) Kemp William T. 13 By 1870 Judy or Juda B. is no longer listed with her mother. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/census/1870/70A.HTM Carter, Andrew 23 b. TN Carter, Fannie 23 b. TN Carter, Madison 6 b. TN Carter, Paschel 3 b. TN Carter, Elisabeth 1 b. TN By 1870 Andrew and Fannie are married. Judging from the children I would say they married 1860-1864. But if this were Juda her age should be about 26-27 according to previous census. Anyway this is the only person I could come up with that was anywhere close to your Frances in age with a name begining with "J." The only Frances I have close to her age was married to someone else so it couldn't be her. I would say your best bet to proving any of this is to get a copy of her death certificate and see if it lists her parents as John Kemp and Barbara Jones? Mary Knight Re Frances / Fanny Kemp Hi Mary, I don't personally have any documents stating that the maiden name of Frances / Fanny Carter was Kemp, but according to other relatives, Frances Kemp is the name listed on the death certificate of her youngest son, Houston Carter, who was born in about 1847 in Warren County, KY. I am hoping to receive a copy of the Houston's death certificate within the next few days. Also, with the exception of the initials JF that were engraved on the grave marker of one of her sons, as far as I know, the only way her name is ever listed is Frances or Fanny. Thanks for your help ~ Judy ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... Already in Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm

    09/25/2005 05:47:20