Melba - thank you so much. I will have to look at this info and talk to some of the other Turney researchers...... This Peter Turney died soon after he wrote his will 29 March 1804.....he was one of the first magistrates of Smith Co TN....the court sometimes met at his house outside Dixon Springs. He is mentioned often in Cal's column. I descend from his brother Henry Turney who died 1843 Dekalb Co TN - he lived on Clear Forks near the Dekalb / Cannon Co line, he began buying land there 1802-1803 when it was Smith County. Peter (d 1804) was the father of 3 lawyer sons: Samuel - White co TN lawyer James - first wife Sarah?, second wife Mary Ransom he married in Illinois where he had moved around 1818, was Attorney General there, moved 1860s to Texas. Hopkins Lacey Turney - TN senator and father of Gov of TN Peter Turney. Peter Turney (d 1804) was married to Francis Haines - and we have not been able to find her family.....Peter was a surveyor, was one of the surveyors on Armstrong's survey ordered by NC on land which today is in TN (1783).....so Peter had land all over Eastern and Middle TN.... I have tried to figure out connection to Allen family - if perhaps one of the females was born an Allen. My direct line Peter Turney b 1795, died 1842 AR was married to an Adams, he was the nephew of Peter d 1804....and he began the tradition of using Allen as middle name for sons. I have of course wondered if the wife of Henry (d 1843 Dekalb) could have been an Allen.....or what the connection might be. Perhaps it is to the Haines/ Haynes family.....I just have not been able to put it together. It might even go all the way back to 1760s in Shenandoah Co VA since an Allen family lived near the Turneys. There might be a connection to Kentucky..... someone sent me this: THE HIDDEN REVOLUTIONARY WAR LAND GRANTS IN THE TENNESSEE RESERVATION Davidson County Warrant: Grant: Assigned to: Page 2123 Peter Turney Mary Allen C439 5261 Samuel Smithson Peter Turney D32 Smith County 5261 Samuel Smithson Henry Turney C235, 236, 237 Peter Turney was a Rev. War Vet.....he was at Battle of Point Pleasant in 1774, and is documented as being at Boyd's Creek, perhaps at King's Mountain in Oct 1780. He was referred to in Smith Co as "Captain" - he was often out with militia on expeditions at various times.....his grave outside Dixon Springs has a Rev War marker......now why he gave his 640 acres to Mary Allen? He probably owed her money so signed over the land as payment, he often did this. He used various pieces of land the same as money, his estate was a mess and not settled for many years because these records are scattered all over eastern and middle TN..... On the Allen name......Shenandoah Co VA 1788 Reuben Allen married Magdaline Skeen.... John Skeen and wife Ingabo sold 93 acres on east side of North River Shenandoah to Joseph Hawkins 22 August 1762, sold 165 acres to Joseph Hawkins 18 August 1762, sold the remaining 100 acres to Peter Turney 21 August 1762. This Peter Turney was bp 1710/11 Switzerland and was the father of Peter Turney (d 1804 Smith Co TN) and Henry Turney (d 1843 Dekalb Co Tn). The Turneys were in PA from 1741 to about 1749 when they moved to near Edinburg VA, about 1762 they moved a bit south to Red Banks / Hawkinstown area. Their next door neighbors there were Abraham Bird and Joseph Hawkins. Peter Turney Jr (d 1804), brother Henry, sisters Eve Teeter and Mary Beeler moved by early 1774 to the Abingdon / Bristol area. Peter Jr and Henry were just over the VA line into what became TN. This is about time Peter Jr began his surveying.....Peter and Henry had land all over - about 1783 registered land near Bean's Station on German Creek.....Henry 1780 was at Ft Nasborough on the Cumberland, 1788 built a house down road from brother Peter Jr, in Hartsville TN, then to Hawkins Co where he was on 1790 tax list, 1803-1804 he was in Smith Co on Clear forks where he died 1843. In Preemptors book by Irene Griffey: Jan 3, 1783 Henry Turney obtained a pre empt. of 640 acres of land lying on the so. side of Harpeth River about a mile above the Clay Lick....improvement marked on a tree thus H T for compliment. so.....Henry Turney Jan 1783 has 640 acres on Harpeth River.....1784 Peter Turney assigned his 640 acres on south side of Big Harpeth to Mary Allen. The info on Peter Turney should also be in Preemptors book - but it is not.....just the info on brother Henry. For some reason Peter did not register his land on Harpeth river in late 1782-1783 when Anthony bledsoe, Isaac Shelby and Absalom Tatum were appointed by NC to survey boundaries of the military reservation and settle the grants of people already living there. Instead, it seems Peter Turney's grant was registered as Rev War grant while brother Henry was registered as a preemptor. This is what is so hard about TN early land records...... anyway - thank you so much for the info. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eldon Wilkins" <MelEl512@att.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Re: TNSMITH-D Digest V05 #269 > One Turney surname - TURNEY, Peter. See Allen, Mary. > When I go to Allen, Mary it has ALLEN, Mary III - 350, assigned > by heirs of Peter Turney, Pvt. > > Then I go to pg 88 of the Book, Section III, No. 350. > The word "do" as I understand it means ditto. In the information re Mary the > year "do" is that of 1784. In the place land granted also is written "do" > which in Mary's case is Davidson Co. There are > 6 entries written crosswise across the page as follows: > > (Let me give you this from the prefix-The pages of the > original are unnumbered and the book is not indexed. > In 1803 a handwritten copy of the original report was made > at the request of the State of Tennessee and it is this Tennessee record > from the State Archives in Nashville, Tennessee which is here reproduced. > The compilers have numbered the pages and added the index. This Glasgow > report lists five different types of grants, in five different sections > numbered serially beginning > with Number 1 in each part. The six columns give the > following information. (read carefully). Listing number, the name > of the grantee, the number of acres, year grant was made, county or district > in which land was situated, and the location of the > land mainly by reference to waterways. This listing number does NOT > correlate with location, entry, warrant or grant numbers, therefore copies > of warrants or grants should NOT be requested > by number, but should be requested by name of the holder ONLY. > > Section III "An estimate of the lands for which grants have issued > to the Officers and Soldiers in the Continental Line of this State or > their assigns, pursuant to act of Assembly." > > Under this heading are listed 1448 military grants. There is a note > at end indicating that 2275 other warrants had been issued > to officers and soldiers for which grants had not then been made. > This Section (III) of the volumne has been so well handled by the > publishers that there is little to add. It should be noted however that at > the time of Tennessee's request for copies of the N.C. > grants it was found that many errors had been made. In checking the grants > with the original warrants and surveys it was often > found that the soldier's name had been spelled wrong, or another had been > substituted in error, etc. In these cases corrections of all kinds were made > by "margin notes" and not on the face of the > grant. > > N. C. did not issue any new warrants after ceding her territory to > the Federal Government, but Tennessee did recognize and honor > her previously issued warrants through the year 1824. > > (Note-there are different notes for Sections I, II, and IV than > the above III) > > 350-Mary Allen - 640 -1784 - Davidson - On the South side of > Big Harpeth > > Hope this helps. > Melba > > PS To Sue in Lebanon-there were no surnames of > Donnell re land grants. If I find other info on your family > I will send it later. Melba > > And Mary would be interested to learn if this fits your line.

Mary...I had wondered if Peter had a daughter who married an Allen. Do you have any history of James who went to Texas in 1860? Did he return to Tennessee? I have been attempting to collect information from Smith/Jackson Co. families who left during this period and went to Texas (some to Grayson Co, Texas). Some stayed for a short period of time; returned to Tenn.; some "dropped off" in other states on their way home and did not return to Tenn.; some remained in Texas. The gist of what I have learned is that Texas was a cattle state and our Tennessee farmers were not greeted well. What was it, and who spread the word that Texas "might be the place to go to"??? Melba -------Original Message----- From: Mary Miller Date: 08/23/05 07:03:09 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSMITH] Peter Turney assigned land to Mary Allen 1784 Melba - thank you so much. I will have to look at this info and talk to some of the other Turney researchers...... This Peter Turney died soon after he wrote his will 29 March 1804.....he was one of the first magistrates of Smith Co TN....the court sometimes met at his house outside Dixon Springs. He is mentioned often in Cal's column. I descend from his brother Henry Turney who died 1843 Dekalb Co TN - he lived on Clear Forks near the Dekalb / Cannon Co line, he began buying land there 1802-1803 when it was Smith County. Peter (d 1804) was the father of 3 lawyer sons: Samuel - White co TN lawyer James - first wife Sarah?, second wife Mary Ransom he married in Illinois where he had moved around 1818, was Attorney General there, moved 1860s to Texas. Hopkins Lacey Turney - TN senator and father of Gov of TN Peter Turney. Peter Turney (d 1804) was married to Francis Haines - and we have not been able to find her family.....Peter was a surveyor, was one of the surveyors on Armstrong's survey ordered by NC on land which today is in TN (1783).....so Peter had land all over Eastern and Middle TN.... I have tried to figure out connection to Allen family - if perhaps one of the females was born an Allen. My direct line Peter Turney b 1795, died 1842 AR was married to an Adams, he was the nephew of Peter d 1804....and he began the tradition of using Allen as middle name for sons. I have of course wondered if the wife of Henry (d 1843 Dekalb) could have been an Allen.....or what the connection might be. Perhaps it is to the Haines/ Haynes family.....I just have not been able to put it together. It might even go all the way back to 1760s in Shenandoah Co VA since an Allen family lived near the Turneys. There might be a connection to Kentucky..... someone sent me this: THE HIDDEN REVOLUTIONARY WAR LAND GRANTS IN THE TENNESSEE RESERVATION Davidson County Warrant: Grant: Assigned to: Page 2123 Peter Turney Mary Allen C439 5261 Samuel Smithson Peter Turney D32 Smith County 5261 Samuel Smithson Henry Turney C235, 236, 237 Peter Turney was a Rev. War Vet.....he was at Battle of Point Pleasant in 1774, and is documented as being at Boyd's Creek, perhaps at King's Mountain in Oct 1780. He was referred to in Smith Co as "Captain" - he was often out with militia on expeditions at various times.....his grave outside Dixon Springs has a Rev War marker......now why he gave his 640 acres to Mary Allen? He probably owed her money so signed over the land as payment, he often did this. He used various pieces of land the same as money, his estate was a mess and not settled for many years because these records are scattered all over eastern and middle TN..... On the Allen name......Shenandoah Co VA 1788 Reuben Allen married Magdaline Skeen.... John Skeen and wife Ingabo sold 93 acres on east side of North River Shenandoah to Joseph Hawkins 22 August 1762, sold 165 acres to Joseph Hawkins 18 August 1762, sold the remaining 100 acres to Peter Turney 21 August 1762. This Peter Turney was bp 1710/11 Switzerland and was the father of Peter Turney (d 1804 Smith Co TN) and Henry Turney (d 1843 Dekalb Co Tn). The Turneys were in PA from 1741 to about 1749 when they moved to near Edinburg VA, about 1762 they moved a bit south to Red Banks / Hawkinstown area. Their next door neighbors there were Abraham Bird and Joseph Hawkins. Peter Turney Jr (d 1804), brother Henry, sisters Eve Teeter and Mary Beeler moved by early 1774 to the Abingdon / Bristol area. Peter Jr and Henry were just over the VA line into what became TN. This is about time Peter Jr began his surveying.....Peter and Henry had land all over - about 1783 registered land near Bean's Station on German Creek.....Henry 1780 was at Ft Nasborough on the Cumberland, 1788 built a house down road from brother Peter Jr, in Hartsville TN, then to Hawkins Co where he was on 1790 tax list, 1803-1804 he was in Smith Co on Clear forks where he died 1843. In Preemptors book by Irene Griffey: Jan 3, 1783 Henry Turney obtained a pre empt. of 640 acres of land lying on the so. side of Harpeth River about a mile above the Clay Lick....improvement marked on a tree thus H T for compliment. so.....Henry Turney Jan 1783 has 640 acres on Harpeth River.....1784 Peter Turney assigned his 640 acres on south side of Big Harpeth to Mary Allen. The info on Peter Turney should also be in Preemptors book - but it is not.....just the info on brother Henry. For some reason Peter did not register his land on Harpeth river in late 1782-1783 when Anthony bledsoe, Isaac Shelby and Absalom Tatum were appointed by NC to survey boundaries of the military reservation and settle the grants of people already living there. Instead, it seems Peter Turney's grant was registered as Rev War grant while brother Henry was registered as a preemptor. This is what is so hard about TN early land records...... anyway - thank you so much for the info. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eldon Wilkins" <MelEl512@att.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Re: TNSMITH-D Digest V05 #269 > One Turney surname - TURNEY, Peter. See Allen, Mary. > When I go to Allen, Mary it has ALLEN, Mary III - 350, assigned > by heirs of Peter Turney, Pvt. > > Then I go to pg 88 of the Book, Section III, No. 350. > The word "do" as I understand it means ditto. In the information re Mary the > year "do" is that of 1784. In the place land granted also is written "do" > which in Mary's case is Davidson Co. There are > 6 entries written crosswise across the page as follows: > > (Let me give you this from the prefix-The pages of the > original are unnumbered and the book is not indexed. > In 1803 a handwritten copy of the original report was made > at the request of the State of Tennessee and it is this Tennessee record > from the State Archives in Nashville, Tennessee which is here reproduced. > The compilers have numbered the pages and added the index. This Glasgow > report lists five different types of grants, in five different sections > numbered serially beginning > with Number 1 in each part. The six columns give the > following information. (read carefully). Listing number, the name > of the grantee, the number of acres, year grant was made, county or district > in which land was situated, and the location of the > land mainly by reference to waterways. This listing number does NOT > correlate with location, entry, warrant or grant numbers, therefore copies > of warrants or grants should NOT be requested > by number, but should be requested by name of the holder ONLY. > > Section III "An estimate of the lands for which grants have issued > to the Officers and Soldiers in the Continental Line of this State or > their assigns, pursuant to act of Assembly." > > Under this heading are listed 1448 military grants. There is a note > at end indicating that 2275 other warrants had been issued > to officers and soldiers for which grants had not then been made. > This Section (III) of the volumne has been so well handled by the > publishers that there is little to add. It should be noted however that at > the time of Tennessee's request for copies of the N.C. > grants it was found that many errors had been made. In checking the grants > with the original warrants and surveys it was often > found that the soldier's name had been spelled wrong, or another had been > substituted in error, etc. In these cases corrections of all kinds were made > by "margin notes" and not on the face of the > grant. > > N. C. did not issue any new warrants after ceding her territory to > the Federal Government, but Tennessee did recognize and honor > her previously issued warrants through the year 1824. > > (Note-there are different notes for Sections I, II, and IV than > the above III) > > 350-Mary Allen - 640 -1784 - Davidson - On the South side of > Big Harpeth > > Hope this helps. > Melba > > PS To Sue in Lebanon-there were no surnames of > Donnell re land grants. If I find other info on your family > I will send it later. 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