Definition: A public domain work is a creative work that is not protected by copyright and which may be freely used by everyone. The reasons that the work is not protected include: (1) the term of copyright for the work has expired; (2) the author failed to satisfy statutory formalities to perfect the copyright or (3) the work is a work of the U.S. Government. Published before 1923 In public domain None ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti McNeal" <cyclewidowpatti@yahoo.com> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > O.K. but do we know if there are heirs with rights?? Just asking. Patti > > Don Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote:On the other hand, Goodspeeds bios > were printed in the late 1800s, well over > 70 years ago. > DonK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti McNeal" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:33 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > > >> It sure sounds like copyright infringement to me. >> >> Patti McNeal >> >> Linda Lewis wrote: >> On ebay, there is a history of Smith county. A sixty nine page extract >> from Goodspeed. Is it illegal for these people to copy and print portions >> of these books and then sell them on places like ebay. >> Linda >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Visit The Smith Co Web Site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! for Good >> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >> Already in Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. > Already In Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >

Patti, I am a zealot when it comes to protection of creative works. This passion bores right down to protecting what you create for your own county website, and to the state and federal projects as well. Although my research is not infallible, I looked into the Goodspeeds works ten years ago and found no legal bars to displaying those works. Nevertheless, I still credit everything donated to my websites, whether under copyright or not. One file that helps me to do that is a permissive file folder. If anyone ever challenges anything I post, I can provide the name of the person who gave the works to me. It just makes good sense to credit and protect our submitters, thus encourage broader base of submissions to enable massive growth of our local, and state, projects. With all that, I still abhor those who sell for profit the works of others. Thanks for asking. This is IMHO. Don Kelly, descendent of William Owen of Smith, TN era 1833. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Crain" <rscrain@comcast.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > Definition: A public domain work is a creative work that is not protected > by copyright and > which may be freely used by everyone. The reasons that the work is not > protected include: > (1) the term of copyright for the work has expired; (2) the author failed > to satisfy statutory > formalities to perfect the copyright or (3) the work is a work of the U.S. > Government. > > > Published before 1923 In public domain None > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti McNeal" <cyclewidowpatti@yahoo.com> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > > >> O.K. but do we know if there are heirs with rights?? Just asking. Patti >> >> Don Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote:On the other hand, Goodspeeds >> bios were printed in the late 1800s, well over >> 70 years ago. >> DonK >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patti McNeal" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county >> >> >>> It sure sounds like copyright infringement to me. >>> >>> Patti McNeal >>> >>> Linda Lewis wrote: >>> On ebay, there is a history of Smith county. A sixty nine page extract >>> from Goodspeed. Is it illegal for these people to copy and print >>> portions >>> of these books and then sell them on places like ebay. >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Visit The Smith Co Web Site >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! for Good >>> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>> Already in Progress! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >> Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. >> Already In Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'm protective because though not published for profit, I am a passioned writer and would be irritated to say the least if someone profited from my work. Don Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote:Patti, I am a zealot when it comes to protection of creative works. This passion bores right down to protecting what you create for your own county website, and to the state and federal projects as well. Although my research is not infallible, I looked into the Goodspeeds works ten years ago and found no legal bars to displaying those works. Nevertheless, I still credit everything donated to my websites, whether under copyright or not. One file that helps me to do that is a permissive file folder. If anyone ever challenges anything I post, I can provide the name of the person who gave the works to me. It just makes good sense to credit and protect our submitters, thus encourage broader base of submissions to enable massive growth of our local, and state, projects. With all that, I still abhor those who sell for profit the works of others. Thanks for asking. This is IMHO. Don Kelly, descendent of William Owen of Smith, TN era 1833. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Crain" To: Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > Definition: A public domain work is a creative work that is not protected > by copyright and > which may be freely used by everyone. The reasons that the work is not > protected include: > (1) the term of copyright for the work has expired; (2) the author failed > to satisfy statutory > formalities to perfect the copyright or (3) the work is a work of the U.S. > Government. > > > Published before 1923 In public domain None > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti McNeal" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > > >> O.K. but do we know if there are heirs with rights?? Just asking. Patti >> >> Don Kelly wrote:On the other hand, Goodspeeds >> bios were printed in the late 1800s, well over >> 70 years ago. >> DonK >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patti McNeal" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county >> >> >>> It sure sounds like copyright infringement to me. >>> >>> Patti McNeal >>> >>> Linda Lewis wrote: >>> On ebay, there is a history of Smith county. A sixty nine page extract >>> from Goodspeed. Is it illegal for these people to copy and print >>> portions >>> of these books and then sell them on places like ebay. >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Visit The Smith Co Web Site >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! for Good >>> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>> Already in Progress! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >> Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. >> Already In Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Are you an attorney Randy? Sounds like you know all about the copyright laws. I sure didn't - that's why I brought it to the list. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Crain" <rscrain@comcast.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > Definition: A public domain work is a creative work that is not protected > by copyright and > which may be freely used by everyone. The reasons that the work is not > protected include: > (1) the term of copyright for the work has expired; (2) the author failed > to satisfy statutory > formalities to perfect the copyright or (3) the work is a work of the U.S. > Government. > > > Published before 1923 In public domain None > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti McNeal" <cyclewidowpatti@yahoo.com> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county > > >> O.K. but do we know if there are heirs with rights?? Just asking. Patti >> >> Don Kelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> wrote:On the other hand, Goodspeeds >> bios were printed in the late 1800s, well over >> 70 years ago. >> DonK >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patti McNeal" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] History of Smith county >> >> >>> It sure sounds like copyright infringement to me. >>> >>> Patti McNeal >>> >>> Linda Lewis wrote: >>> On ebay, there is a history of Smith county. A sixty nine page extract >>> from Goodspeed. Is it illegal for these people to copy and print >>> portions >>> of these books and then sell them on places like ebay. >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Visit The Smith Co Web Site >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! for Good >>> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>> Already in Progress! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >> Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. >> Already In Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > > >