The census enumerator likely misheard or misunderstood Babe Kemp 's wife's name as "Tiny" - it actually was "Tennessee" or "Tenny", her full name being Tennessee Ramsey Sircy Kemp. Gary Pace

Melba John Simpson Dycus b. ca 1846 was brother to Elba Dycus not his son. I have no marriage info for him however. There was another John Simpson Dycus b. ca 1866 who was son of Larkin Dycus & Nancy Donoho. Larkin was also brother of Elba and the first John Simpson Dycus. I have no marriage info for this John Simpson Dycus b. ca 1866 either. Elba had a son named John Lee "Savage" Dycus b. March 31, 1857 who married Eliza Jane Dycus daugher of Leroy Dycus also son of William Dycus & Winnie Minerva Carver which would make John & Eliza first cousins I think. This is what I have collected over the years from Rootsweb post by Jerry Dycus and also census records etc of these families. Mary -----Original Message----- >From: MELBA WILKINS <melbawilkins@msn.com> >Sent: Jul 29, 2010 12:11 PM >To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com, TNSMITH@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Children of Alexander F Flat(t) > >Sue, >I too have in data a Rosie Elizabeth (Lizzie) Flatt no dates md to John Simpson (Simp) Dycus b abt 1846 - no other info. except that Simp was s/o >Elba Dycus b 1821 of Macon Co; d after 1880 prob Macon Co. Elba md Mary (Polly) Dixon b abt 1825 - d after 1880...they had several children. > >Simp also md Nancy (Nan) Massey b about 1840. > >Elba also md Mary A. grenade b about 1830 - no more info > >Elba was s/o William Billy Edward Dycus of N.C. d about 1870 of Macon Co. md >Minerva Naomi Carver 1799 N.C. 1888 in Macon Co. prob. > >SS HH 67 in the Macon Co. 1850 Roots Book published a couple of years ago...has infor on some of these families also. > >I am sure I connected some of this also to an old newspaper article which I no longer have...deteriorated. > >I have done no more research for this Rosie so there may be more available but know she is not the same as Rosa d/o our Holland family. > >Melba > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Gregory<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com> > To: TNSMITH@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:51 AM > Subject: [TNSMITH] Children of Alexander F Flat(t) > > > > I'm sorry, I already deleted the email after abstracting the info, but when I got the names of Alexander Flatt's children in my files and saw that he had a daughter, Rose who died in infancy, I realized I have another "Rosa Lee [Rosie] Flatt" who married John Simpson Dycas, 2 Sep 1897 in Jackson Co., TN. I do not have life dates for her, but show John S Dycas as, 3 Jun 1866, Jackson Co., TN ~ 14 Jan 1960, Macon Co., TN. > > I don't show parentage for Rosa Lee Flatt. Does anyone know who SHE was?? > > > Sue G > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm sorry, I already deleted the email after abstracting the info, but when I got the names of Alexander Flatt's children in my files and saw that he had a daughter, Rose who died in infancy, I realized I have another "Rosa Lee [Rosie] Flatt" who married John Simpson Dycas, 2 Sep 1897 in Jackson Co., TN. I do not have life dates for her, but show John S Dycas as, 3 Jun 1866, Jackson Co., TN ~ 14 Jan 1960, Macon Co., TN. I don't show parentage for Rosa Lee Flatt. Does anyone know who SHE was?? Sue G

Is this the marriage for "Millard Filmore Butler" and Mary Jane Thomas? Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 about Thomas Philmes Butler Name: Thomas Philmes Butler [believed to be same as Millard Filmore/Philmore Butler?] Spouse: Mary Jane Thomas Marriage Date: 18 May 1877 Marriage County: Jackson Marriage State: Tennessee Source Information: Ancestry.com. Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008. Original data: Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002. Nashville, TN, USA: Tennessee State Library and Archives. Microfilm. Sue G Yes, s/o Millard Fillmore Butler 1856-1928 and Mary Jane Thomas 1859-1937 ----- Original Message ----- From: WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com<mailto:WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Butler and Kemp Is this Genie Butler the son of M. Fillmore/Fillmon Butler & Mary Jane THOMAS? Carmelita In a message dated 7/28/2010 6:10:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryknight1@earthlink.net<mailto:maryknight1@earthlink.net> writes: Sue Oshia Belle Kemp who married Gene Butler was daughter of James B. Kemp and Tennessee Ramsey per her obit. MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. I have Lansford Kendred "Kenny" Kemp but don't know what should be correct. He listed in several places with all different spellings. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Gregory" <sagsspot@aol.com<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com>> To: <tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > > OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > > I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who > was the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the > Hollands....(won't loose all of you with details). > > Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp > and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > > I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the > daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 > after Tennie died in 1887. > > Sue > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vantage@twlakes.net<mailto:vantage@twlakes.net> > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > > Jackson County Cemetery records: > > Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > > George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > > Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > > Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > > Cook Dixon > > siblings of Kirk buried here are: > > Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > > Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > > Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =

Re birth of first child, I think it has to be. But how the name Thomas is there I have not found out. See the name on the following census, always Millard F Butler. !1880 Census Place: District 14, Jackson, Tennessee Source: FHL Film 1255264 National Archives Film T9-1264 Page 282A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Millard F. BUTLER Self M M W 23 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN Mary J. BUTLER Wife F M W 27 TN (Mary Jane Thomas) Occ: Keeping House Fa: --- Mo: NC John F. BUTLER Son M S W 2 TN - John Frank Fa: TN Mo: TN Grant GIVINGS Other M S W 15 TN Occ: Works On Farm Fa: --- Mo: TN William GIVINS Other M S W 9 TN Fa: --- Mo: TN - - - !1920 Jackson Co. Census Millard F. Butler 63 Mary J. (Thomas) 60 Gene son 23 married Oshie d/law 22 (Oshie Bell Kemp) Brady grson Leon grson ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Gregory<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Butler and Kemp Is this the marriage for "Millard Filmore Butler" and Mary Jane Thomas? Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 about Thomas Philmes Butler Name: Thomas Philmes Butler [believed to be same as Millard Filmore/Philmore Butler?] Spouse: Mary Jane Thomas Marriage Date: 18 May 1877 Marriage County: Jackson Marriage State: Tennessee Source Information: Ancestry.com. Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008. Original data: Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002. Nashville, TN, USA: Tennessee State Library and Archives. Microfilm. Sue G Yes, s/o Millard Fillmore Butler 1856-1928 and Mary Jane Thomas 1859-1937 ----- Original Message ----- From: WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com<mailto:WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com<mailto:WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com<mailto:WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com>> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Butler and Kemp Is this Genie Butler the son of M. Fillmore/Fillmon Butler & Mary Jane THOMAS? Carmelita In a message dated 7/28/2010 6:10:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryknight1@earthlink.net<mailto:maryknight1@earthlink.net<mailto:maryknight1@earthlink.net<mailto:maryknight1@earthlink.net>> writes: Sue Oshia Belle Kemp who married Gene Butler was daughter of James B. Kemp and Tennessee Ramsey per her obit. MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. I have Lansford Kendred "Kenny" Kemp but don't know what should be correct. He listed in several places with all different spellings. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Gregory" <sagsspot@aol.com<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com>>> To: <tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > > OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > > I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who > was the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the > Hollands....(won't loose all of you with details). > > Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp > and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > > I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the > daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 > after Tennie died in 1887. > > Sue > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vantage@twlakes.net<mailto:vantage@twlakes.net<mailto:vantage@twlakes.net<mailto:vantage@twlakes.net>> > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > > Jackson County Cemetery records: > > Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > > George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > > Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > > Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > > Cook Dixon > > siblings of Kirk buried here are: > > Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > > Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > > Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com>> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message = ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, I too have in data a Rosie Elizabeth (Lizzie) Flatt no dates md to John Simpson (Simp) Dycus b abt 1846 - no other info. except that Simp was s/o Elba Dycus b 1821 of Macon Co; d after 1880 prob Macon Co. Elba md Mary (Polly) Dixon b abt 1825 - d after 1880...they had several children. Simp also md Nancy (Nan) Massey b about 1840. Elba also md Mary A. grenade b about 1830 - no more info Elba was s/o William Billy Edward Dycus of N.C. d about 1870 of Macon Co. md Minerva Naomi Carver 1799 N.C. 1888 in Macon Co. prob. SS HH 67 in the Macon Co. 1850 Roots Book published a couple of years ago...has infor on some of these families also. I am sure I connected some of this also to an old newspaper article which I no longer have...deteriorated. I have done no more research for this Rosie so there may be more available but know she is not the same as Rosa d/o our Holland family. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Gregory<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com> To: TNSMITH@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:51 AM Subject: [TNSMITH] Children of Alexander F Flat(t) I'm sorry, I already deleted the email after abstracting the info, but when I got the names of Alexander Flatt's children in my files and saw that he had a daughter, Rose who died in infancy, I realized I have another "Rosa Lee [Rosie] Flatt" who married John Simpson Dycas, 2 Sep 1897 in Jackson Co., TN. I do not have life dates for her, but show John S Dycas as, 3 Jun 1866, Jackson Co., TN ~ 14 Jan 1960, Macon Co., TN. I don't show parentage for Rosa Lee Flatt. Does anyone know who SHE was?? Sue G ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not sure where I got the info but I have Stanton Butler par as Rob Butler and Maude (Maudy) Carter....need to research more to prove. ? Mary - re your statement Bertie later married Stanton Butler - are you implying Bertie also married a second time, other than Stanton? Thx Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Knight<mailto:maryknight1@earthlink.net> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Babe & Tiny Kemp Fay Bertie should be listed as Bertie Sircy. Elsie Bertie Sircy was Tennessee's daughter from her first husband Henry Sircy. Bertie later married Stanton Butler. Not sure but I think this Stanton Butler was son of Robert Lee Butler and Amanda Unknown (maybe Climer?. Can anyone confirm that? Here's what I have girls for Babe and Tinnie/Tiny etc. Kemp. Descendants of James B. “Babe” Kemp Generation No. 1 1. JAMES B.4 “Babe” KEMP (JESSE BENTON3, RICHARD2, HENRY1) was born Bet. 1859 - 1860 in Smith County, Tennessee, and died Bef. 1900 in Jackson County, Tennessee. He married TENNESSEE RAMSEY September 24, 1890 in Jackson County, Tennessee, daughter of WILLIAM RAMSEY and MARTHA CASE. She was born February 1861 in Jackson County, Tennessee, and died Abt. 1928 in Jackson County, Tennessee. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1900/094-04b.gif<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1900/094-04b.gif> 1900 Smith Co. 94-04b Kemp, Tennie Feb 1860 40 yrs wd 5 children Kemp, Bertie dau Mar 1885 15 yrs (should be sircy) Kemp, Jessie son Jan 1891 9 yrs Kemp, Tomie son Feb 1892 8 yrs Kemp, Ochia dau Apr 1895 5 yrs Kemp, Ouia? dau Apr 1897 3 yrs (Ova Lee) Children of JAMES KEMP and TENNESSEE RAMSEY are: i. JESSE BENTON5 KEMP, b. January 1891, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. Aft. 1964, Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee; m. (1) HATTIE BURTON; m. (2) BONNIE HOLLEMAN, Bef. 1920; b. Abt. 1897, Tennessee. Notes for JESSE BENTON KEMP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1920/108-05b.gif<http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1920/108-05b.gif> Canter J. Westley? 25 head Canter Tellie? F. 24 wife Kemp Jesse B. 26? Kemp Bonnie 23 ii. THOMAS KEMP, b. March 08, 1894, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. September 24, 1934, Smith County, Tennessee; m. PEARL RAMSEY, Bef. 1916; b. March 14, 1898, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. May 26, 1954, Bakersfield, California. iii. OSHIA BELLE KEMP, b. August 16, 1895, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 23, 1983, Smith County Memorial Hospital, Carthage, Smith County, Tennessee; m. GENE BUTLER, January 07, 1916, Jackson County, Tennessee; b. March 28, 1896, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. June 14, 1992, Jackson County Hospital, Gainesboro, Jackston County, Tennessee. Notes for OSHIA BELLE KEMP: MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. Notes for GENE BUTLER: Tuesday funeral services for Mr. Genie Butler of the Gladdice Community were conducted from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home in Kempville by Bro. Gary Lee. Burial followed the 10 a.m. servicces in the Genie Butler Cemetery in Jackson County. Mr. Butler died Sunday morning in the Jackson County Hospital at Gainesboro at the age of 95 following a lenghty illness. Born in Jackson County the son of the late Filmore & Mary Jane Thomas Butler, he was a retired farmer abd was married to the former Oshie Kemp who preceeded him in death on November 23, 1983. He was a Methodist in belief. Mr. Butler was also preceeded in death by a son, Leon Butler and by a Grandson, David Butler. Surviving is a daughter, Opal Agee of the Bagdad Community; seven grandchildren; James Agee, Denise Carver, and Renee Richardson all of Gladdice, Stan Agee of Monoville, Janice Anderson of Tanglewood, Peggy Kemp of Defeated Creek, Barbara Loring of Old Hickory, fifteen great-grandchildren and six great-great grandchildren. Sanderson Funeral Home of Kempville, Directors. iv. OVA LEE KEMP, b. February 28, 1897, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 27, 1978, Smith County Memorial Hospital, Carthage, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) JOHN FRANK HUGHES, September 15, 1915; b. July 08, 1895, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. February 11, 1922, Jackson County, Tennessee; m. (2) HASKELL CARTER, Bet. 1922 - 1925; b. March 13, 1897; d. April 26, 1955; m. (3) CARSEY ERNEST DUKE, 1937; b. April 25, 1899; d. May 31, 1954, Gainesboro, Jackson County, Tennessee. Notes for OVA LEE KEMP: Duke, Mrs. Ova--Age 81 of the Granville community, suddenly Nov. 27, 1978. survived by two daughters; Mrs. Reba Green, Manchester, Mrs. Peggy Askins, Winchester; son, Wert Hughes, Old Hickory; three stepsons, Wert Duke, Gainesboro, Byron B. Duke, Covrntry, R.I., Bobby Hugh Duke, Nashville; sister, Mrs. Oshie Butler, Gladdice; thirteen grandchildren; thirteen great grandchildren. Remains are at the Carthage Chapel of the Sanderson Funeral Home, where services will be conducted Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Bro. Phillip Horne will officiate. Interment Butler Cemetery, SANDERSON FUNERAL HOME, of Carthage, Directors. 735-2118 Marriage 1 John Frank HUGHES b: 7-8-1895 in Jackson County, TN Children Casper W. HUGHES b: 6-16-1916 in Jackson County, TN Wert (Bill) HUGHES b: 4-18-1918 in Jackson County, TN Jewell Dean HUGHES b: 9-20-1920 in Jackson County, TN Marriage 2 Carsey DUKE Children Peggy Jean DUKE Marriage 3 Haskell CARTER Children Reba Lois CARTER b: 6-17-1925 in Jackson County, TN -----Original Message----- >From: Vantage Consulting <vantage@twlakes.net<mailto:vantage@twlakes.net>> >Sent: Jul 28, 2010 7:19 PM >To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > >Sue: >Help me out here! Following is the 1900 census of Tennie with children: >Bertie, Jessie, Tommie, Oshia and Ova (transcriber did a poor job but this >is definitely the Oshia and Ova we are discussing). It states Tennie has 5 >children born/5 living. > >1900 United States Federal Census >about Onia Kemp >Name: Onia Kemp >Home in 1900: Civil District 5, Smith, Tennessee >Age: 3 >Birth Date: Apr 1897 >Birthplace: Tennessee >Race: White >Gender: Female >Relationship to Head of House: Daughter >Father's Birthplace: Tennessee >Mother's Name: Jennie (Tennie) >Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee >Marital Status: Single >Occupation: View on Image >Neighbors: View others on page >Household Members: Name Age >Jennie Kemp 40 >Bertie Kemp 15 >Jessie Kemp 9 >Tomie Kemp 8 >Oshia Kemp 5 >Onia Kemp 3 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Sue Gregory >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM >To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > >OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > >I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who was >the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the Hollands....(won't >loose all of you with details). > >Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp >and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > >I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the >daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 >after Tennie died in 1887. > >Sue > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: vantage@twlakes.net<mailto:vantage@twlakes.net> >To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm >Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > >Jackson County Cemetery records: > >Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > >George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > >Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > >Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > >Cook Dixon > >siblings of Kirk buried here are: > >Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > >Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > >Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com > >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of > >the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ada Gaddis was age 16 when she married Robert Underwood May 12, 1889, Smith Co TN Does anyone have access to those marriage records to determine who gave parental consent and if her parents were given in the marriage license? Thank you Sharon Tabor

OK, Mary, this helps tremendously. Melba had pointed out that Bertie was a Sircy. The fact that she is listed as a Kemp in the 1900 census did not help. I think i've got it all straight now! Thanks > > Fay > Bertie should be listed as Bertie Sircy. Elsie Bertie Sircy was > Tennessee's daughter from her first husband Henry Sircy. Bertie later > married Stanton Butler. Not sure but I think this Stanton Butler was son > of Robert Lee Butler and Amanda Unknown (maybe Climer?. Can anyone confirm > that? > > > Here's what I have girls for Babe and Tinnie/Tiny etc. Kemp. > > Descendants of James B. “Babe” Kemp > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. JAMES B.4 “Babe” KEMP (JESSE BENTON3, RICHARD2, HENRY1) was born > Bet. 1859 - 1860 in Smith County, Tennessee, and died Bef. 1900 in > Jackson County, Tennessee. He married TENNESSEE RAMSEY September 24, 1890 > in Jackson County, Tennessee, daughter of WILLIAM RAMSEY and MARTHA CASE. > She was born February 1861 in Jackson County, Tennessee, and died Abt. > 1928 in Jackson County, Tennessee. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1900/094-04b.gif > 1900 Smith Co. 94-04b > Kemp, Tennie Feb 1860 40 yrs wd 5 children > Kemp, Bertie dau Mar 1885 15 yrs (should be sircy) > Kemp, Jessie son Jan 1891 9 yrs > Kemp, Tomie son Feb 1892 8 yrs > Kemp, Ochia dau Apr 1895 5 yrs > Kemp, Ouia? dau Apr 1897 3 yrs (Ova Lee) > > Children of JAMES KEMP and TENNESSEE RAMSEY are: > i. JESSE BENTON5 KEMP, b. January 1891, Difficult, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. Aft. 1964, Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee; m. (1) > HATTIE BURTON; m. (2) BONNIE HOLLEMAN, Bef. 1920; b. Abt. 1897, > Tennessee. > > Notes for JESSE BENTON KEMP: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1920/108-05b.gif > Canter J. Westley? 25 head > Canter Tellie? F. 24 wife > Kemp Jesse B. 26? > Kemp Bonnie 23 > > ii. THOMAS KEMP, b. March 08, 1894, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; > d. September 24, 1934, Smith County, Tennessee; m. PEARL RAMSEY, Bef. > 1916; b. March 14, 1898, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. May 26, 1954, > Bakersfield, California. > > iii. OSHIA BELLE KEMP, b. August 16, 1895, Difficult, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. November 23, 1983, Smith County Memorial Hospital, > Carthage, Smith County, Tennessee; m. GENE BUTLER, January 07, 1916, > Jackson County, Tennessee; b. March 28, 1896, Jackson County, Tennessee; > d. June 14, 1992, Jackson County Hospital, Gainesboro, Jackston County, > Tennessee. > > Notes for OSHIA BELLE KEMP: > MRS OSHIE BUTLER > > Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the > Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler > Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. > Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith > County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. > She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] > and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United > Methodist Church. > She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, > of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; > eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. > > Notes for GENE BUTLER: > Tuesday funeral services for Mr. Genie Butler of the Gladdice Community > were conducted from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home in > Kempville by Bro. Gary Lee. Burial followed the 10 a.m. servicces in the > Genie Butler Cemetery in Jackson County. > Mr. Butler died Sunday morning in the Jackson County Hospital at > Gainesboro at the age of 95 following a lenghty illness. > Born in Jackson County the son of the late Filmore & Mary Jane Thomas > Butler, he was a retired farmer abd was married to the former Oshie Kemp > who preceeded him in death on November 23, 1983. He was a Methodist in > belief. Mr. Butler was also preceeded in death by a son, Leon Butler and > by a Grandson, David Butler. > Surviving is a daughter, Opal Agee of the Bagdad Community; seven > grandchildren; James Agee, Denise Carver, and Renee Richardson all of > Gladdice, Stan Agee of Monoville, Janice Anderson of Tanglewood, Peggy > Kemp of Defeated Creek, Barbara Loring of Old Hickory, fifteen > great-grandchildren and six great-great grandchildren. > Sanderson Funeral Home of Kempville, Directors. > > iv. OVA LEE KEMP, b. February 28, 1897, Difficult, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. November 27, 1978, Smith County Memorial Hospital, > Carthage, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) JOHN FRANK HUGHES, September > 15, 1915; b. July 08, 1895, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. February 11, > 1922, Jackson County, Tennessee; m. (2) HASKELL CARTER, Bet. 1922 - 1925; > b. March 13, 1897; d. April 26, 1955; m. (3) CARSEY ERNEST DUKE, 1937; b. > April 25, 1899; d. May 31, 1954, Gainesboro, Jackson County, Tennessee. > > Notes for OVA LEE KEMP: > Duke, Mrs. Ova--Age 81 of the Granville community, suddenly Nov. 27, > 1978. survived by two daughters; Mrs. Reba Green, Manchester, Mrs. Peggy > Askins, Winchester; son, Wert Hughes, Old Hickory; three stepsons, Wert > Duke, Gainesboro, Byron B. Duke, Covrntry, R.I., Bobby Hugh Duke, > Nashville; sister, Mrs. Oshie Butler, Gladdice; thirteen grandchildren; > thirteen great grandchildren. Remains are at the Carthage Chapel of the > Sanderson Funeral Home, where services will be conducted Wednesday > morning at 10 a.m. Bro. Phillip Horne will officiate. Interment Butler > Cemetery, SANDERSON FUNERAL HOME, of Carthage, Directors. 735-2118 > > Marriage 1 John Frank HUGHES b: 7-8-1895 in Jackson County, TN > Children > Casper W. HUGHES b: 6-16-1916 in Jackson County, TN > Wert (Bill) HUGHES b: 4-18-1918 in Jackson County, TN > Jewell Dean HUGHES b: 9-20-1920 in Jackson County, TN > > Marriage 2 Carsey DUKE > Children > Peggy Jean DUKE > > Marriage 3 Haskell CARTER > Children > Reba Lois CARTER b: 6-17-1925 in Jackson County, TN > > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Vantage Consulting <vantage@twlakes.net> >>Sent: Jul 28, 2010 7:19 PM >>To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp >> >>Sue: >>Help me out here! Following is the 1900 census of Tennie with children: >>Bertie, Jessie, Tommie, Oshia and Ova (transcriber did a poor job but >> this >>is definitely the Oshia and Ova we are discussing). It states Tennie has >> 5 >>children born/5 living. >> >>1900 United States Federal Census >>about Onia Kemp >>Name: Onia Kemp >>Home in 1900: Civil District 5, Smith, Tennessee >>Age: 3 >>Birth Date: Apr 1897 >>Birthplace: Tennessee >>Race: White >>Gender: Female >>Relationship to Head of House: Daughter >>Father's Birthplace: Tennessee >>Mother's Name: Jennie (Tennie) >>Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee >>Marital Status: Single >>Occupation: View on Image >>Neighbors: View others on page >>Household Members: Name Age >>Jennie Kemp 40 >>Bertie Kemp 15 >>Jessie Kemp 9 >>Tomie Kemp 8 >>Oshia Kemp 5 >>Onia Kemp 3 >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >>Behalf Of Sue Gregory >>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM >>To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp >> >> >> Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! >> >>OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! >> >> >>I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who >> was >>the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the Hollands....(won't >>loose all of you with details). >> >>Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K >> Kemp >>and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? >> >>I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the >>daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 >>after Tennie died in 1887. >> >>Sue >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: vantage@twlakes.net >>To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm >>Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland >> >> >>Jackson County Cemetery records: >> >>Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road >> >>George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. >> >>Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland >> >>Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha >> >>Cook Dixon >> >>siblings of Kirk buried here are: >> >>Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 >> >>Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 >> >>Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com >> >>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >>of >> >>the message >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fay Bertie should be listed as Bertie Sircy. Elsie Bertie Sircy was Tennessee's daughter from her first husband Henry Sircy. Bertie later married Stanton Butler. Not sure but I think this Stanton Butler was son of Robert Lee Butler and Amanda Unknown (maybe Climer?. Can anyone confirm that? Here's what I have girls for Babe and Tinnie/Tiny etc. Kemp. Descendants of James B. “Babe” Kemp Generation No. 1 1. JAMES B.4 “Babe” KEMP (JESSE BENTON3, RICHARD2, HENRY1) was born Bet. 1859 - 1860 in Smith County, Tennessee, and died Bef. 1900 in Jackson County, Tennessee. He married TENNESSEE RAMSEY September 24, 1890 in Jackson County, Tennessee, daughter of WILLIAM RAMSEY and MARTHA CASE. She was born February 1861 in Jackson County, Tennessee, and died Abt. 1928 in Jackson County, Tennessee. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1900/094-04b.gif 1900 Smith Co. 94-04b Kemp, Tennie Feb 1860 40 yrs wd 5 children Kemp, Bertie dau Mar 1885 15 yrs (should be sircy) Kemp, Jessie son Jan 1891 9 yrs Kemp, Tomie son Feb 1892 8 yrs Kemp, Ochia dau Apr 1895 5 yrs Kemp, Ouia? dau Apr 1897 3 yrs (Ova Lee) Children of JAMES KEMP and TENNESSEE RAMSEY are: i. JESSE BENTON5 KEMP, b. January 1891, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. Aft. 1964, Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee; m. (1) HATTIE BURTON; m. (2) BONNIE HOLLEMAN, Bef. 1920; b. Abt. 1897, Tennessee. Notes for JESSE BENTON KEMP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1920/108-05b.gif Canter J. Westley? 25 head Canter Tellie? F. 24 wife Kemp Jesse B. 26? Kemp Bonnie 23 ii. THOMAS KEMP, b. March 08, 1894, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. September 24, 1934, Smith County, Tennessee; m. PEARL RAMSEY, Bef. 1916; b. March 14, 1898, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. May 26, 1954, Bakersfield, California. iii. OSHIA BELLE KEMP, b. August 16, 1895, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 23, 1983, Smith County Memorial Hospital, Carthage, Smith County, Tennessee; m. GENE BUTLER, January 07, 1916, Jackson County, Tennessee; b. March 28, 1896, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. June 14, 1992, Jackson County Hospital, Gainesboro, Jackston County, Tennessee. Notes for OSHIA BELLE KEMP: MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. Notes for GENE BUTLER: Tuesday funeral services for Mr. Genie Butler of the Gladdice Community were conducted from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home in Kempville by Bro. Gary Lee. Burial followed the 10 a.m. servicces in the Genie Butler Cemetery in Jackson County. Mr. Butler died Sunday morning in the Jackson County Hospital at Gainesboro at the age of 95 following a lenghty illness. Born in Jackson County the son of the late Filmore & Mary Jane Thomas Butler, he was a retired farmer abd was married to the former Oshie Kemp who preceeded him in death on November 23, 1983. He was a Methodist in belief. Mr. Butler was also preceeded in death by a son, Leon Butler and by a Grandson, David Butler. Surviving is a daughter, Opal Agee of the Bagdad Community; seven grandchildren; James Agee, Denise Carver, and Renee Richardson all of Gladdice, Stan Agee of Monoville, Janice Anderson of Tanglewood, Peggy Kemp of Defeated Creek, Barbara Loring of Old Hickory, fifteen great-grandchildren and six great-great grandchildren. Sanderson Funeral Home of Kempville, Directors. iv. OVA LEE KEMP, b. February 28, 1897, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 27, 1978, Smith County Memorial Hospital, Carthage, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) JOHN FRANK HUGHES, September 15, 1915; b. July 08, 1895, Jackson County, Tennessee; d. February 11, 1922, Jackson County, Tennessee; m. (2) HASKELL CARTER, Bet. 1922 - 1925; b. March 13, 1897; d. April 26, 1955; m. (3) CARSEY ERNEST DUKE, 1937; b. April 25, 1899; d. May 31, 1954, Gainesboro, Jackson County, Tennessee. Notes for OVA LEE KEMP: Duke, Mrs. Ova--Age 81 of the Granville community, suddenly Nov. 27, 1978. survived by two daughters; Mrs. Reba Green, Manchester, Mrs. Peggy Askins, Winchester; son, Wert Hughes, Old Hickory; three stepsons, Wert Duke, Gainesboro, Byron B. Duke, Covrntry, R.I., Bobby Hugh Duke, Nashville; sister, Mrs. Oshie Butler, Gladdice; thirteen grandchildren; thirteen great grandchildren. Remains are at the Carthage Chapel of the Sanderson Funeral Home, where services will be conducted Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Bro. Phillip Horne will officiate. Interment Butler Cemetery, SANDERSON FUNERAL HOME, of Carthage, Directors. 735-2118 Marriage 1 John Frank HUGHES b: 7-8-1895 in Jackson County, TN Children Casper W. HUGHES b: 6-16-1916 in Jackson County, TN Wert (Bill) HUGHES b: 4-18-1918 in Jackson County, TN Jewell Dean HUGHES b: 9-20-1920 in Jackson County, TN Marriage 2 Carsey DUKE Children Peggy Jean DUKE Marriage 3 Haskell CARTER Children Reba Lois CARTER b: 6-17-1925 in Jackson County, TN -----Original Message----- >From: Vantage Consulting <vantage@twlakes.net> >Sent: Jul 28, 2010 7:19 PM >To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > >Sue: >Help me out here! Following is the 1900 census of Tennie with children: >Bertie, Jessie, Tommie, Oshia and Ova (transcriber did a poor job but this >is definitely the Oshia and Ova we are discussing). It states Tennie has 5 >children born/5 living. > >1900 United States Federal Census >about Onia Kemp >Name: Onia Kemp >Home in 1900: Civil District 5, Smith, Tennessee >Age: 3 >Birth Date: Apr 1897 >Birthplace: Tennessee >Race: White >Gender: Female >Relationship to Head of House: Daughter >Father's Birthplace: Tennessee >Mother's Name: Jennie (Tennie) >Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee >Marital Status: Single >Occupation: View on Image >Neighbors: View others on page >Household Members: Name Age >Jennie Kemp 40 >Bertie Kemp 15 >Jessie Kemp 9 >Tomie Kemp 8 >Oshia Kemp 5 >Onia Kemp 3 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Sue Gregory >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM >To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > >OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > >I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who was >the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the Hollands....(won't >loose all of you with details). > >Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp >and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > >I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the >daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 >after Tennie died in 1887. > >Sue > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: vantage@twlakes.net >To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm >Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > >Jackson County Cemetery records: > >Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > >George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > >Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > >Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > >Cook Dixon > >siblings of Kirk buried here are: > >Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > >Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > >Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com > >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of > >the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, The parents are James B "BeBe" and Tennie "Tiny" Ramsey. Ova Lee Kemp, sister of Oshia married John Frank Hughes.... MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren.. -----Original Message----- From: Vantage Consulting <vantage@twlakes.net> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 6:46 pm Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp My source of parents is the obit of Ova Lee Kemp Duke, sister of Oshia Kemp Butler. Ova's obit lists her parents as Babe and Tiny, which was my source for the Find A Grave posting. Also following is marriage of Lawson and Tennie Winkler. Are these NOT the parents of Oshia and Ova? Thanks Ancestry: Name: Lanson K Kemp Spouse: Tennie Winkler Marriage: 19 Oct 1882 - Smith Carthage Courier Obit 30 Nov 1978 MRS. OVA LEE DUKE !Mrs. Ova Lee Duke, a resident of the Granville Community and a Jackson County native, passed away Monday morning, November 27 (1978) at Smith County Memorial Hospital in Carthage of an apparent heart attack. Funeral services were conducted Wednesday morning from the Carthage Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in Butler Cemetery in the Gladdice Community. Bro. Phillip Horne, minister of the Carthage United Methodist Church, officiated at the 10 a.m. services. Mrs. Duke was the widow of the Late Ernest Duke and was daughter of the late Babe and Tiny Kemp. She was a Methodist. She is survived by two daughters; Mrs. Reba Green of Manchester and Mrs. Peggy Askins of Winchester; a son, Wert Hughes of Old Hickory; three step-sons, Wert Lee Duke of Gainesboro, Byron B. Duke of Couventry, R. I.; Bobby H. Duke of Nashville; sister, Mrs. Gene Butler of Gladdice, 13 grandchildren and 13 great-grandchildren. -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Knight Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:01 PM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp Sue Oshia Belle Kemp who married Gene Butler was daughter of James B. Kemp and Tennessee Ramsey per her obit. MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. I have Lansford Kendred "Kenny" Kemp but don't know what should be correct. He listed in several places with all different spellings. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Gregory" <sagsspot@aol.com> To: <tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > > OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > > I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who > was the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the > Hollands....(won't loose all of you with details). > > Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp > and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > > I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the > daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 > after Tennie died in 1887. > > Sue > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vantage@twlakes.net > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > > Jackson County Cemetery records: > > Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > > George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > > Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > > Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > > Cook Dixon > > siblings of Kirk buried here are: > > Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > > Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > > Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Charlie, The Thomas, Richard and Isaac. William are very much in our family given names. So is John, Louis/Lewis and Francis WE have hardy Hadley also in our lines Marshall was another common name I really believe our families are connected. Lott Gregory dob 1742 unknown where some think Turkey Creek NC I say VA In records for deeds, wills, surveys etc. you find Thomas and Ethel Red along with him mentioned Then Thomas and Ethel Red are no longer in the records for that county. Your Thomas age and the age of the Thomas in the records with Lott are abt the same Jeannie

Sue: Help me out here! Following is the 1900 census of Tennie with children: Bertie, Jessie, Tommie, Oshia and Ova (transcriber did a poor job but this is definitely the Oshia and Ova we are discussing). It states Tennie has 5 children born/5 living. 1900 United States Federal Census about Onia Kemp Name: Onia Kemp Home in 1900: Civil District 5, Smith, Tennessee Age: 3 Birth Date: Apr 1897 Birthplace: Tennessee Race: White Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Daughter Father's Birthplace: Tennessee Mother's Name: Jennie (Tennie) Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee Marital Status: Single Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jennie Kemp 40 Bertie Kemp 15 Jessie Kemp 9 Tomie Kemp 8 Oshia Kemp 5 Onia Kemp 3 -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Gregory Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who was the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the Hollands....(won't loose all of you with details). Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 after Tennie died in 1887. Sue -----Original Message----- From: vantage@twlakes.net To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland Jackson County Cemetery records: Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha Cook Dixon siblings of Kirk buried here are: Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this Genie Butler the son of M. Fillmore/Fillmon Butler & Mary Jane THOMAS? Carmelita In a message dated 7/28/2010 6:10:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryknight1@earthlink.net writes: Sue Oshia Belle Kemp who married Gene Butler was daughter of James B. Kemp and Tennessee Ramsey per her obit. MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. I have Lansford Kendred "Kenny" Kemp but don't know what should be correct. He listed in several places with all different spellings. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Gregory" <sagsspot@aol.com> To: <tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > > OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > > I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who > was the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the > Hollands....(won't loose all of you with details). > > Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp > and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > > I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the > daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 > after Tennie died in 1887. > > Sue > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vantage@twlakes.net > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > > Jackson County Cemetery records: > > Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > > George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > > Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > > Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > > Cook Dixon > > siblings of Kirk buried here are: > > Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > > Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > > Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is correct. This comes into my brothers line for the Ramsey and my Cassity and Hughes lines for the Kemps -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Knight Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:01 PM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp Sue Oshia Belle Kemp who married Gene Butler was daughter of James B. Kemp and Tennessee Ramsey per her obit. MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. I have Lansford Kendred "Kenny" Kemp but don't know what should be correct. He listed in several places with all different spellings. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Gregory" <sagsspot@aol.com> To: <tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > > OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > > I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who > was the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the > Hollands....(won't loose all of you with details). > > Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp > and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > > I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the > daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 > after Tennie died in 1887. > > Sue > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vantage@twlakes.net > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > > Jackson County Cemetery records: > > Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > > George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > > Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > > Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > > Cook Dixon > > siblings of Kirk buried here are: > > Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > > Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > > Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My source of parents is the obit of Ova Lee Kemp Duke, sister of Oshia Kemp Butler. Ova's obit lists her parents as Babe and Tiny, which was my source for the Find A Grave posting. Also following is marriage of Lawson and Tennie Winkler. Are these NOT the parents of Oshia and Ova? Thanks Ancestry: Name: Lanson K Kemp Spouse: Tennie Winkler Marriage: 19 Oct 1882 - Smith Carthage Courier Obit 30 Nov 1978 MRS. OVA LEE DUKE !Mrs. Ova Lee Duke, a resident of the Granville Community and a Jackson County native, passed away Monday morning, November 27 (1978) at Smith County Memorial Hospital in Carthage of an apparent heart attack. Funeral services were conducted Wednesday morning from the Carthage Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in Butler Cemetery in the Gladdice Community. Bro. Phillip Horne, minister of the Carthage United Methodist Church, officiated at the 10 a.m. services. Mrs. Duke was the widow of the Late Ernest Duke and was daughter of the late Babe and Tiny Kemp. She was a Methodist. She is survived by two daughters; Mrs. Reba Green of Manchester and Mrs. Peggy Askins of Winchester; a son, Wert Hughes of Old Hickory; three step-sons, Wert Lee Duke of Gainesboro, Byron B. Duke of Couventry, R. I.; Bobby H. Duke of Nashville; sister, Mrs. Gene Butler of Gladdice, 13 grandchildren and 13 great-grandchildren. -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Knight Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:01 PM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp Sue Oshia Belle Kemp who married Gene Butler was daughter of James B. Kemp and Tennessee Ramsey per her obit. MRS OSHIE BUTLER Services for Mrs. Oshie Butler were conducted Friday at 1 p.m. from the Hackett Chapel of Sanderson Funeral Home with burial in the Genie Butler Cemetery at her home in the Gladdice Community. Otis Johnson officiated. Mrs. Butler died Wednesday afternoon, November 23, 1983, at the Smith County Memorial Hospital at the age of 88. She was a native of Jackson County and the daughter of James B [Babe] and Tennessee Ramsey Kemp and was a member of the Smith County United Methodist Church. She is survived by her husband, Genie Butler; two children, Opal Agee, of the Bagdad Community, and Leon Butler, of the Gladdice community; eight grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. I have Lansford Kendred "Kenny" Kemp but don't know what should be correct. He listed in several places with all different spellings. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Gregory" <sagsspot@aol.com> To: <tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland/Kemp > > Fay....I just realized that YOU put the info on Find-a-grave!! Bravo!!! > > OK, Now need another question answered....Kemp's....JUMP IN HERE!!! > > > I found your post for Gene T Butler, brother to James William Butler who > was the father of Mary Duff Butler that married into the > Hollands....(won't loose all of you with details). > > Anyway, Gene married Oshia B Kemp...you show the daughter of Lawson K Kemp > and Tennie Winkler....May I ask a question or make a connection here?? > > I show him as Lansford (may be Lunsford) Kenney Kemp and Oshia was the > daughter of his second wife, Laura Udora Gregory whom he married in 1889 > after Tennie died in 1887. > > Sue > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vantage@twlakes.net > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland > > > Jackson County Cemetery records: > > Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road > > George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. > > Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland > > Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha > > Cook Dixon > > siblings of Kirk buried here are: > > Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 > > Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 > > Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Millard Filmore Butler & Mary Thomas are parents of Gene. -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:15 PM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Butler and Kemp Is this Genie Butler the son of M. Fillmore/Fillmon Butler & Mary Jane THOMAS? Carmelita

Thanks Jeannie!!! Sue -----Original Message----- From: Sammie Jean Fairchild <looking4myfamily@att.net> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland If you want the facts on Holland/Flat/Hughes/Cassetty get in touch with Linda Brazzell. Her grandmother was married to George E Holland, Nellie Hughes Holland. He was married to a Cassetty and she died in Childbirth. fuzzynap@att.net contact me privately and will give other contact info. Jeannie Spoke to about this and she said for me send out this email Jeannie -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Gregory Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:35 PM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland I show the marriage date as 6 Oct 1918 in Jackson Co., TN. Not sure where the 1892 came from??? Sue My aunt married into this Holland line- George Millard (called Miller) Holland 27 June 1857 - Jackson Co., Tn 23 July 1940 Jackson Co., Tenn md 20 Nov 1892 to Bernettie (called Nettie) E. Flatt 9 Feb 1867 Smith Co., 28 June 1944 Smith Co.,. Miller and Nettie had the following children: Willie A. Holland, Henry Lester Holland (my uncle) Bud Chester Holland, George Curtis (called Kirk) Holland, and Ira Landon Holland. George Curtis (Kirk) Holland married Clellie Hasbie Cook b 13 July 1903 Jackson Co., d 8 Oct 1979 in Jackson Co., md 6 Oct 1918 in Jackson Co., Tnn Clellie was the d/o John Thomas Cook and Bertha Elnora Dixon. I will not give out the information on the children of Kirk and Clellie as there are living children. However re the 1930 I have copied from the original and in my notes have his name as "unreadable" You have error-Kirk b 1900 and Clellie b 1903 could NOT have married in 1892. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Gregory<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com> To: TNSMITH@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland I am running my husband's mother's family, the Holland's.... Can anyone tell me the full name of Curtis "Kirk" Holland who married Clella Cook in 1892 in Jackson Co., TN? In the 1930 Census he is transcribed as Kirk V Reo Holland, but I do NOT think this is correct? It's not legible enough to read. Curtis is not a direct descent, but I'm running the lines to get everyone to their rightful place. Thanks for any help.... Sue Gregory Lebanon, TN = ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was another sibling too...Willie A Holland, b. 10 Aug 1893, d. 28 Dec 1894, Jackson Co., TN. Sue -----Original Message----- From: vantage@twlakes.net To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland Jackson County Cemetery records: Holland Family cemetery, Salt Lick Creek Road George Curtis "Kirk" Holland, b. 17 Mar 1900; d. 17 Jul 1989, s/o G. Millard "Miller" and Nettie Flatt Holland Clellie H. Holland, b. 13 Jul, 1903; d. 8 Oct 1979 d/o John and Bertha Cook Dixon siblings of Kirk buried here are: Henry Lester Holland - 7 Oct 1895 - 20 June 1972 Bud Chester Holland - 30 Apr 1897 - 7 Dec 1969 Ira Landon Holland - 27 Sep 1903 - 6 Apr 1986 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you want the facts on Holland/Flat/Hughes/Cassetty get in touch with Linda Brazzell. Her grandmother was married to George E Holland, Nellie Hughes Holland. He was married to a Cassetty and she died in Childbirth. fuzzynap@att.net contact me privately and will give other contact info. Jeannie Spoke to about this and she said for me send out this email Jeannie -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Gregory Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:35 PM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland I show the marriage date as 6 Oct 1918 in Jackson Co., TN. Not sure where the 1892 came from??? Sue My aunt married into this Holland line- George Millard (called Miller) Holland 27 June 1857 - Jackson Co., Tn 23 July 1940 Jackson Co., Tenn md 20 Nov 1892 to Bernettie (called Nettie) E. Flatt 9 Feb 1867 Smith Co., 28 June 1944 Smith Co.,. Miller and Nettie had the following children: Willie A. Holland, Henry Lester Holland (my uncle) Bud Chester Holland, George Curtis (called Kirk) Holland, and Ira Landon Holland. George Curtis (Kirk) Holland married Clellie Hasbie Cook b 13 July 1903 Jackson Co., d 8 Oct 1979 in Jackson Co., md 6 Oct 1918 in Jackson Co., Tnn Clellie was the d/o John Thomas Cook and Bertha Elnora Dixon. I will not give out the information on the children of Kirk and Clellie as there are living children. However re the 1930 I have copied from the original and in my notes have his name as "unreadable" You have error-Kirk b 1900 and Clellie b 1903 could NOT have married in 1892. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Gregory<mailto:sagsspot@aol.com> To: TNSMITH@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: [TNSMITH] Curtis "Kirk" Holland I am running my husband's mother's family, the Holland's.... Can anyone tell me the full name of Curtis "Kirk" Holland who married Clella Cook in 1892 in Jackson Co., TN? In the 1930 Census he is transcribed as Kirk V Reo Holland, but I do NOT think this is correct? It's not legible enough to read. Curtis is not a direct descent, but I'm running the lines to get everyone to their rightful place. Thanks for any help.... Sue Gregory Lebanon, TN = ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message