It sure sounds like copyright infringement to me. Patti McNeal Linda Lewis <llewis001@centurytel.net> wrote: On ebay, there is a history of Smith county. A sixty nine page extract from Goodspeed. Is it illegal for these people to copy and print portions of these books and then sell them on places like ebay. Linda ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Visit The Smith Co Web Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

On ebay, there is a history of Smith county. A sixty nine page extract from Goodspeed. Is it illegal for these people to copy and print portions of these books and then sell them on places like ebay. Linda

Judy, I have an idea of who I think she might be but not sure. If its who I think is might be she is never listed as J. F. in any of the census that I have. And if its the person I'm thinking her name and age are never listed the same in the census. I don't find a marriage record for Andrew Carter and a Kemp in the records online. I wanted to ask if you have a copy of her death certificate? Mary Knight I recently received information stating that my g-grandfather, Andrew Carter - b. 1847, TN., and the son of Harlan Carter and Joanna Davis m. Frances / Fanny Kemp. Frances was also b. in abt. 1847 in TN. and some information indicates that Frances had a first name that began with the letter "J", as the grave marker for one of her sons lists her name as J.F. Carter. Does anyone have any information that connects a Frances Kemp, or J. Frances Kemp to any of the various Kemp families that were known to be living in Smith or Macon Counties between 1860 - 1870? I Would also like to know more about the Kemp family in general, any advice on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ~ Judy ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Add Your Surnames to Our Smith County Surnames Page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/surnames.htm

Don, I am also researching an Owen family in Smith County. I have an Elizabeth Owen b. abt. 1863 in TN. She had at least one brother, Jim Owen and at least one sister, Lena. Her parents may have been Barnett Owen b. abt. 1821 and Rebecca b. abt 1826. Elizabeth married a Boulton. Does any of this connect with your line? Thanks, Claudia

Don & Claudia, I checked the list for these surnames below. The only one I found of any was: Bertran Owen spouse of Cornelia Brent. The ancestry was that of Fanny Green who md George M. Parsons and their dau Elizabeth Parsons md George Brent..etc. down to Bertran & Cornelia. M. -------Original Message------- From: Don Kelly Date: 09/23/05 17:21:42 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Green family of Culpepper, Va. Undocumented, but here is what I am working on. This information is 33 years old. William Owen ca 1780 ca 1850 wife Margaret ca 1800 ca 1850 Smith, TN William Owen Jr. 1833 ca 1917 born Smith, TN d Gutherie, OK, wife Sarah Elizabeth Hawkins ca 1826 ca 1837 born Smith, TN died Tyrone, MO. Henry Mentlo Owen b 1882 m 1876 d 1930 Lowell, AR, married ca 1876 Tyrone, MO wife Chelnessee Matrina Rutledge b 1860 TN d 1937 Benton AR. Have marriage record of ggparents (Tyrone, MO) and looking for more. That's about it with not much progress made so far. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <allendc6@aol.com> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Green family of Culpepper, Va. > Don, > I am also researching an Owen family in Smith County. I have an Elizabeth > Owen b. abt. 1863 in TN. She had at least one brother, Jim Owen and at > least > one sister, Lena. Her parents may have been Barnett Owen b. abt. 1821 > and > Rebecca b. abt 1826. Elizabeth married a Boulton. Does any of this > connect with > your line? > Thanks, > Claudia > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... > Already in Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/

Undocumented, but here is what I am working on. This information is 33 years old. William Owen ca 1780 ca 1850 wife Margaret ca 1800 ca 1850 Smith, TN William Owen Jr. 1833 ca 1917 born Smith, TN d Gutherie, OK, wife Sarah Elizabeth Hawkins ca 1826 ca 1837 born Smith, TN died Tyrone, MO. Henry Mentlo Owen b 1882 m 1876 d 1930 Lowell, AR, married ca 1876 Tyrone, MO wife Chelnessee Matrina Rutledge b 1860 TN d 1937 Benton AR. Have marriage record of ggparents (Tyrone, MO) and looking for more. That's about it with not much progress made so far. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <allendc6@aol.com> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Green family of Culpepper, Va. > Don, > I am also researching an Owen family in Smith County. I have an Elizabeth > Owen b. abt. 1863 in TN. She had at least one brother, Jim Owen and at > least > one sister, Lena. Her parents may have been Barnett Owen b. abt. 1821 > and > Rebecca b. abt 1826. Elizabeth married a Boulton. Does any of this > connect with > your line? > Thanks, > Claudia > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... > Already in Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >

Melba, your post is very interesting even without my ancestral names included. Culpepper was a meeting place for wagon trains moving west. It is said that people left messages for following families on a BB board on the front of a local store. A full story of that meeting place in Culpepper would be very interesting. Smith County, TN is where my Owen family lived and I'm trying to push their travels to the west backward to see where they came from. Family story is Virginia for both Owen and Rutledge. They may have all came down the Cumberland trail. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eldon Wilkins" <MelEl512@att.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Green family of Culpepper, Va. > TO PERSONS OF INTEREST > > In 1976 while in the Arizona State Library and > Archives I found a very large pedigree chart on the Green families of > Culpepper, Va. Unable to > check this out I paid them to copy it for me. > > When computers came into being my husband > did a surname (name sorted list of 50 pgs) list of this chart as well as a > descendancy chart. These begin with William Green and Eleanor Duff abt > 1675. > Some of these lines are known to have come into Tennessee. > > I am also in possession of a handwritten letter > of 8 Sept 1952 to my father, Marvin Green(e) > from F. G. Percival of Knoxville who states > his ggggrfather is Lewis Green 1751 of Russell County, Va.. He writes some > family came into > what is now Harlan Co., Ky and some into > Nashville, Tn. "Zarhariah, with the Paynes > moved to the Cumberland settlement (now > Nashville)...In route Lewis Sr died...Later > Lewis' widow (Sara) md Mathew Payne - the > father of their daughter Sara's husband, Josiah > Payne." > > This letter is 3 1/2 pages long 8 x 10. His > family and those on the pedigree chart connect. > > I am putting this information on the site in case > anyone is interested and has connections. > > Melba Greene Wilkins > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >

TO PERSONS OF INTEREST In 1976 while in the Arizona State Library and Archives I found a very large pedigree chart on the Green families of Culpepper, Va. Unable to check this out I paid them to copy it for me. When computers came into being my husband did a surname (name sorted list of 50 pgs) list of this chart as well as a descendancy chart. These begin with William Green and Eleanor Duff abt 1675. Some of these lines are known to have come into Tennessee. I am also in possession of a handwritten letter of 8 Sept 1952 to my father, Marvin Green(e) from F. G. Percival of Knoxville who states his ggggrfather is Lewis Green 1751 of Russell County, Va.. He writes some family came into what is now Harlan Co., Ky and some into Nashville, Tn. "Zarhariah, with the Paynes moved to the Cumberland settlement (now Nashville)...In route Lewis Sr died...Later Lewis' widow (Sara) md Mathew Payne - the father of their daughter Sara's husband, Josiah Payne." This letter is 3 1/2 pages long 8 x 10. His family and those on the pedigree chart connect. I am putting this information on the site in case anyone is interested and has connections. Melba Greene Wilkins

I recently received information stating that my g-grandfather, Andrew Carter - b. 1847, TN., and the son of Harlan Carter and Joanna Davis m. Frances / Fanny Kemp. Frances was also b. in abt. 1847 in TN. and some information indicates that Frances had a first name that began with the letter "J", as the grave marker for one of her sons lists her name as J.F. Carter. Does anyone have any information that connects a Frances Kemp, or J. Frances Kemp to any of the various Kemp families that were known to be living in Smith or Macon Counties between 1860 - 1870? I Would also like to know more about the Kemp family in general, any advice on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ~ Judy

Dear Patti, Wherever you are in the path of Rita I wish you safety. How horrible to watch all this devastation, worry, etc. May God bless you. When you can maybe we can talk about the Brooks line that my Duke line married into. Melba -------Original Message------- From: Patti McNeal Date: 09/23/05 07:31:43 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] smith county history book Lavona, I will have to keep this short for now as I have much left to prepare for this Hurricane. However, my Brooks started in VA and some lived in KY for a time and then settled in Jackson Co and later, Smith Co. Will discuss this more after storm. May be a week or more, depending on damage, etc. Best Regards, Patti lavona shoemaker <lavonab@webtv.net> wrote: Patti, What area is your BROOKS family from? My John F. Brooks was born between 1825 and 1831 somewhere in middle TN. Married 1848 Daviess Co KY. The Library in Ft Smith AR, also has a copy of the Smith County History Book in the Genealogy Room. Lavona, in OK researching the family of Isaiah WHITE and CASKEY from Smith and DeKalb Counties. ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. Already In Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Visit The Smith Co Web Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/

The book is available for viewing at the State Archives in Nashville. --- Patti McNeal <cyclewidowpatti@yahoo.com> wrote: > Melba, > > I don't know but sure would like to believe you > could view this book at Nashville Archives. > > Good luck with your hunt. > > Gotta go now. Last minute preps for Hurricane. > > Take care, Patti > > Eldon Wilkins <MelEl512@att.net> wrote: > Patti....I did not think it would be on a check out > basis. Still wonder if it would be available on > interlibrary loan from the Nashville Archives. > Worth a try. When we were on a visit to the > Carthage Library in the 1980's I wanted to see > 2 different books...both had been "borrowed". > Carmack Key told me that one had been taken > twice by unknown researchers returned and borrowed > again. No one could > figure out who was doing it. So I went to Virginia > State Archives and > requested the same books and would you believe both > had been "borrowed" and > not returned? I quit asking. > Melba > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Patti McNeal > Date: 09/22/05 19:17:14 > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] smith county history book > > There is definitely a copy of this wonderful book at > the Smith Co. Library > in Carthage. I thoroughly enjoyed perusing this book > and gladly paid to have > pages xeroxed. I would so love to have my own and > would wish we could gather > enough interest to encourage the publishers to do a > reprint, maybe even with > family research updates. This book is in the > Genealogy Room and is not on > the check out availability. > > Best Regards, Patti McNeal in Texas > > (Brooks and Lankford and Associated Families > Researcher and Compiler) > > thackxton_c@bellsouth.net wrote: > is this book available to check out at smith county > library > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census > Project... > Already in Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief > effort. > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census > Project. > Already In Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census > Project. > Already In Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > >

Lavona, I almost forgot. If you go to www.tribalpages.com Username: ghostspy You can peruse my site which includes Brooks and Lankfords as well as Teel/Teal, Phillips, Shepherd and much more. Later, Patti lavona shoemaker <lavonab@webtv.net> wrote: Patti, What area is your BROOKS family from? My John F. Brooks was born between 1825 and 1831 somewhere in middle TN. Married 1848 Daviess Co KY. The Library in Ft Smith AR, also has a copy of the Smith County History Book in the Genealogy Room. Lavona, in OK researching the family of Isaiah WHITE and CASKEY from Smith and DeKalb Counties. ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. Already In Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Lavona, I will have to keep this short for now as I have much left to prepare for this Hurricane. However, my Brooks started in VA and some lived in KY for a time and then settled in Jackson Co and later, Smith Co. Will discuss this more after storm. May be a week or more, depending on damage, etc. Best Regards, Patti lavona shoemaker <lavonab@webtv.net> wrote: Patti, What area is your BROOKS family from? My John F. Brooks was born between 1825 and 1831 somewhere in middle TN. Married 1848 Daviess Co KY. The Library in Ft Smith AR, also has a copy of the Smith County History Book in the Genealogy Room. Lavona, in OK researching the family of Isaiah WHITE and CASKEY from Smith and DeKalb Counties. ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. Already In Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Melba, I don't know but sure would like to believe you could view this book at Nashville Archives. Good luck with your hunt. Gotta go now. Last minute preps for Hurricane. Take care, Patti Eldon Wilkins <MelEl512@att.net> wrote: Patti....I did not think it would be on a check out basis. Still wonder if it would be available on interlibrary loan from the Nashville Archives. Worth a try. When we were on a visit to the Carthage Library in the 1980's I wanted to see 2 different books...both had been "borrowed". Carmack Key told me that one had been taken twice by unknown researchers returned and borrowed again. No one could figure out who was doing it. So I went to Virginia State Archives and requested the same books and would you believe both had been "borrowed" and not returned? I quit asking. Melba -------Original Message------- From: Patti McNeal Date: 09/22/05 19:17:14 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] smith county history book There is definitely a copy of this wonderful book at the Smith Co. Library in Carthage. I thoroughly enjoyed perusing this book and gladly paid to have pages xeroxed. I would so love to have my own and would wish we could gather enough interest to encourage the publishers to do a reprint, maybe even with family research updates. This book is in the Genealogy Room and is not on the check out availability. Best Regards, Patti McNeal in Texas (Brooks and Lankford and Associated Families Researcher and Compiler) thackxton_c@bellsouth.net wrote: is this book available to check out at smith county library ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... Already in Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. Already In Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. Already In Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

need info on this family ,dates of birth and death of this family . thanks

In a message dated 9/22/05 10:03:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, maryknight@famvid.com writes: So I think Thomas Elijah Hackett's first wife was Rutha Jane Gregory Brim(m) Then when did Rutha Jane Gregory Brim (Hackett?) die? I don't have a death date for her. Then I think Thomas Elijah Hackett married Letha E. Knight in 1895. I have Rutha Jane Gregory Brimm Hackett, b. c 1852, married the two times as you listed and died on or aft 1889 when her son Norman M Hackett was b. by Elijah. Elijah then married Letha Knight in 1895; Letha being previously married to the Sidwell man and had the one daughter. Sue Gregory, 706 Scarlett Place Lebanon, TN, 37087-3263

Ooops! I realized my mistake AFTER I hit Send!! Thanks, Sue Sue Gregory, 706 Scarlett Place Lebanon, TN, 37087-3263

Thanks Sue, now if I can just find out what Sidwell Letha married. Mary K. I have Rutha Jane Gregory Brimm Hackett, b. c 1852, married the two times as you listed and died on or aft 1889 when her son Norman M Hackett was b. by Elijah. Elijah then married Letha Knight in 1895; Letha being previously married to the Sidwell man and had the one daughter. Sue Gregory, 706 Scarlett Place Lebanon, TN, 37087-3263 ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The Cumberland River at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/

In a message dated 9/22/05 7:15:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, maryknight@famvid.com writes: I find in 1910 Macon Co. Census the following and I suspect that Henry B. & Eddy B. Hackett living on either side of him are sons of Thomas Elijah Hackett by his first wife? Can anyone confirm that and who was his first wife? Mary, from what "I" know?? Henry B and Eddy B Hackett are nephews of Thomas Elijah Hackett. They are sons of Peter Mitchell Hackett, Thomas's 1/2 brother. Sue Gregory, 706 Scarlett Place Lebanon, TN, 37087-3263

Patti, What area is your BROOKS family from? My John F. Brooks was born between 1825 and 1831 somewhere in middle TN. Married 1848 Daviess Co KY. The Library in Ft Smith AR, also has a copy of the Smith County History Book in the Genealogy Room. Lavona, in OK researching the family of Isaiah WHITE and CASKEY from Smith and DeKalb Counties.