----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Fantasyland To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp WOW.....all of this Kemp family info....I've been away and look what I missed........Does anyone have something on William Bradley Kemp b abt 1866 who married Susan Ellen Wade b Aug 3, 1866. That's really all I know, except that Susan Wade came from the Bell family ......thanks Gary Sorry Gary, I can't place him. I have several William Kemp's without wives but can't come up with this one. Was he from Smith Co. TN do you know? Mary Knight

In a message dated 10/8/2005 12:57:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, maryknight@famvid.com writes: 1. BURRELL3 KEMP (MURPHY2, HENRY1) was born April 07, 1794 in Wake County, North Carolina, and died Aft. 1880. He married (1) ELIZABETH ROWLING (ROWLAND) November 03, 1813 in Lebanon, Wilson County, Tennessee. She was born 1795 in North Carolina, and died Bet. 1870 - 1874. He married (2) JANE RUSSELL September 27, 1874. She was born Abt. 1828 in Tennessee. ------ If Jane was his wife, does anyone know why he lists her as "other" on the 1880 census? I know there is a marriage certificate for a Burrell and Jane but could it have been another Burrell? Just curious..... 1880 Census Place District 5, Smith, TN Family History Library Film 1255280 NA Film Number T9-1280 Page Number 58C Burrel KEMP Self M Male W 85 NC NC NC Farmer Jane KEMP Other M Female W 52 TN TN TN Housekeeper Carmelita

Carmelita, I think the LDS just put that because nothing was listed. And sometimes I think they also put "other" if they couldn't read what it said? If you look at the image it doesn't say anything in the column for head of house or wife etc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1880/117-03.gif Just says Kemp, Burrell 85 farmer Kemp, Jane 52 housekeeper? If you look at the previous family on this page continued from the previous page. Is the Zachariah Taylor Payne & Connie J. Crabtree family and LDS has them transcribed as JAMES http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1880/117-02.gif 1880 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Zachary T. JAMES Self M Male W 32 TN Farmer TN VA Canna J. JAMES Wife M Female W 26 TN Housekeeper TN TN Clara M. JAMES Dau S Female W 5 TN TN TN Charlie W. JAMES Son S Male W 3 TN TN TN Walter B. JAMES Son S Male W 1 TN TN TN Thomas J. KNIGHT Other S Male W 24 TN Farmer TN TN Amana PAYNE Other S Female W 45 TN Housekeeper TN VA Carrie BRYANT Other S Female W 19 TN Housekeeper TN TN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place District 5, Smith, Tennessee Family History Library Film 1255280 NA Film Number T9-1280 Page Number 57B http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1880/117-02.gif LDS has the Darius A. (Rice) Witt family transcribed as HILL in 1880. If you look at the image it is hard to read but I believe it's WITT. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1880/117-03.gif 1880 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Dirias H. HILL Self M Male W 31 TN Grocery Keeper VA TN Fannie L. HILL Other M Female W 31 TN Housekeeper TN TN Valley E. HILL Other S Female W 8 TN TN TN Robert HILL Other S Male W 4 TN TN TN Haywood C. HILL Other S Male W 2 TN TN TN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place District 5, Smith, Tennessee Family History Library Film 1255280 NA Film Number T9-1280 Page Number 58C So its always good to check the image if you can. We can do that with Smith Co. since the 1880 images are online. But unless you have Ancestry.com or access to 1880 census its kind of hard to check the images of some counties. Mary Knight If Jane was his wife, does anyone know why he lists her as "other" on the 1880 census? I know there is a marriage certificate for a Burrell and Jane but could it have been another Burrell? Just curious..... 1880 Census Place District 5, Smith, TN Family History Library Film 1255280 NA Film Number T9-1280 Page Number 58C Burrel KEMP Self M Male W 85 NC NC NC Farmer Jane KEMP Other M Female W 52 TN TN TN Housekeeper Carmelita ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Add Your Surnames to Our Smith County Surnames Page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/surnames.htm

Mary......he may have been from Bedford county....not too sure... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Knight" <maryknight@famvid.com> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Fantasyland > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > > > WOW.....all of this Kemp family info....I've been away and look what I > missed........Does anyone have something on William Bradley Kemp b abt 1866 > who married Susan Ellen Wade b Aug 3, 1866. That's really all I know, > except that Susan Wade came from the Bell family ......thanks Gary > > Sorry Gary, I can't place him. I have several William Kemp's without wives but can't come up with this one. > Was he from Smith Co. TN do you know? > > Mary Knight > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Visit Photos Of Cemeteries Of Smith County > Over 500 + Cemeteries online with pictures and Descriptions > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/cempics.htm > >

1. BURRELL P.2 KEMP (HENRY1) was born Abt. 1771 in North Carolina/Virginia, and died September 01, 1827 in Wilson County, Tennessee. I would also like to state that I believe Burrell's death date may be wrong. I don't have a copy of his will or probate. But the reference I have to it is that his will was written on May 10, 1827 and that it was entered into probate in Wilson County Court in the June Term 1827. So if this reference is correct then he had to have died between May 10 1827 and whenever the court met in June 1827. Not in September of 1827. I can't see them probating his will before he died! But like I said I don't have an actual copy of this record so I'm not positive the dates I have of his will and probate are correct. Mary K.

Melba, I don't know anything about this James Moss but I think the one you found would also be two young. They may be together in 1900 census maybe Macon Co. but I don't have that info. I tried to answer all your questions if I missed any let me know. Mary K. So, Mary you can see my confusion too when I saw those dates for Nannie matched those of Martha. It is the same in the book as is online. So far, only James Moss I have come up with is James Robert Moss 15 Apr 1882 - 11 Mar 1947 H/O Mattie Moss (no dates) pg 291 Macon Co. II, buried in the Shrum Cemetery/Alvis Graveyard. And with the dates as they are do not think it is the same James Moss we are looking for. M. -------Original Message------- From: Mary Knight Date: 10/08/05 09:10:03 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops ----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re Martha Sloan - I find her listed as only Nannie Moss b 5 may 1862 w/o of James Moss in the Macon Co. II Book. Does she also have the name of Nancy? I list her as Martha (Nannie) Sloan. Where is James buried? Well, Melba I didn't think Martha and Nancy were the same person? 1870 census Martha was 5yrs (ca 1865) 1880 census no Martha and Nancy B. was 9 yrs. (ca 1871) Perhap's Nancy's age is wrong in 1880? because it appears by that census she was born ca 1871. But I do see the cemetery record online has Nannie Moss 5 May 1862 - 13 Sep 1905 w/o James Moss, which are the dates I had for Martha Sloan? I don't have a marriage date for this marriage or any dates for James Moss. 1870 Smith Co. cdpg 72b. Sloan John 36 b. TN Sloan Nancy 36 b. TN Sloan Archibald 15 b. TN Sloan Ellen D. 11 b. TN Sloan Martha 5 b. TN Sloan Ira J. 3/12 b. TN 1880 Census: Sloand, John 47, Head, TN, TN, TN -----, Nancy 47, Wife, TN, TN, TN -----, Archa. W. 25, Son, TN, TN, TN -----, Ira 12, Son, TN, TN, TN -----, Nancy B. 9, Daughter, TN, TN, TN Mary Knight ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The Cumberland River at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/ ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/

Here's what I have for Burrell & Nancy Fauster (or Foster?) Mary K. Descendants of Burrell P. Kemp Generation No. 1 1. BURRELL P.2 KEMP (HENRY1) was born Abt. 1771 in North Carolina/Virginia, and died September 01, 1827 in Wilson County, Tennessee. He married NANCY (FOSTER) FAUSTER December 15, 1791 in Wake County, North Carolina. She was born Bef. 1775, and died Abt. 1835 in Scott County, Illinois. Children of BURRELL KEMP and NANCY FAUSTER are: i. REBECCA3 KEMP, b. Bet. 1794 - 1796, North Carolina; d. Aft. 1870, Smith County, Tennessee; m. SMITH GREGORY, Aft. 1812; b. Abt. 1796, North Carolina; d. May 09, 1848, Smith County, Tennesse. ii. SOLOMON KEMP, b. Bet. 1794 - 1808, North Carolina; d. Aft. 1870; m. HOLLAN RAY, January 21, 1819, Wilson County, Tennessee; b. Bet. 1797 - 1806, Tennessee; d. Aft. 1870. iii. ELIZABETH (BETSY) KEMP, b. Bet. 1794 - 1804, Wilson County, Tennessee; d. Abt. 1837, Scott County, Illinois; m. WILLIAM HENRY GREGORY, JR., Abt. 1811, Wilson County, Tennessee; b. Abt. 1793, North Carolina; d. October 22, 1872, Hickory County, Missouri. iv. WILLIAM M. "MURPHY" KEMP, b. January 07, 1800, Wake County, North Carolina; d. March 1872, Oakley, Macon County, Illinois; m. (1) ANNA BAIRD, January 03, 1821, Wilson County, Tennessee; b. 1805, Wilson County, Tennessee; d. April 1827, Wilson County, Tennessee; m. (2) MARY EMMA "POLLY" HOWELL, October 12, 1828, Wilson County, Tennessee; b. Bet. 1805 - 1815; d. Bet. 1844 - 1848, Illinois; m. (3) MARIAH JANE LIEB, December 28, 1848, Jacksonville, Morgan County, Illiniois; b. 1812, Tennessee; d. June 14, 1876. v. EMANUEL KEMP, b. Abt. 1808, Wilson County, Tennessee; d. January 22, 1871, California; m. ROENAH BECKMAN, December 09, 1832, Morgan County, Illinois; b. Abt. 1815, Kentucky; d. Aft. 1880. vi. NANCY KEMP, b. Abt. 1810, Wilson County, Tennessee. vii. FEMALE KEMP, b. Bet. 1811 - 1820, Wilson County, Tennessee. viii. MINERVA KEMP, b. Bet. 1811 - 1820, Wilson County, Tennessee.

No Melba, I don't know any more about Arthur Dewey, maybe Bill Kemp does, this is his line. Rufus Jefferson being his grandfather. I may start a controversy over this one. But Gary Pace, Bill Kemp & Judith Holley and I, maybe others do "not" believe Burrell Kemp that married Elizabeth (we believe her last name was Rowland) Rowling was son of Burrell Kemp & Nancy Foster as has been reported by others including info in the History of Smith Co. book. We've worked on this together for a while now. Many people have listed him (including me) as Burrell Kemp, Jr. but no where have any of us been able to find him listed in any offical records as Burrell Kemp "Jr". He is we believe the son of Murphy Kemp & Sarah that is listed in the Goodner book records as Burrell Kemp b. 4-7-1794. This is who we believe married Elizabeth Rowland, not Rowling or Romling as some have it. Judith has a copy of the marriage license and although difficult to read we believe her name was Rowland. (I've also see various spellings for Rowland). So on this I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves which is correct? So her is what I have for Murphy's children. I will send what I have for Burrell & Nancy Kemp seperate. Descendants of Burrell Kemp Generation No. 1 1. BURRELL3 KEMP (MURPHY2, HENRY1) was born April 07, 1794 in Wake County, North Carolina, and died Aft. 1880. He married (1) ELIZABETH ROWLING (ROWLAND) November 03, 1813 in Lebanon, Wilson County, Tennessee. She was born 1795 in North Carolina, and died Bet. 1870 - 1874. He married (2) JANE RUSSELL September 27, 1874. She was born Abt. 1828 in Tennessee. Children of BURRELL KEMP and ELIZABETH (ROWLAND) are: i. WILLIAM LAYTON4 KEMP, b. September 1817, Tennessee; d. January 11, 1905, Difficult, Tennessee; m. DOROTHY PANKEY, Abt. 1839; b. Abt. 1817, Tennessee; d. October 21, 1891, Difficult, Tennessee. ii. JENKS KEMP, b. Abt. 1818, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ELIZABETH ALETHIA CARDWELL, Abt. 1839; b. Abt. 1813, Tennessee. iii. ASA KEMP, b. December 27, 1820, Smith County, Tennessee; d. January 04, 1890, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) MARY ANN "POLLY" WILLIAMS, November 21, 1839, Smith County, Tennessee; b. November 07, 1822, Tennessee; d. March 08, 1882, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (2) MINERVA JANE SUTTON, Bet. 1880 - 1890, prob Macon County, Tennessee; b. August 21, 1836, Smith County, Tennessee; d. February 04, 1915, Era, Cooke County, Texas. iv. LARKIN KEMP, b. September 16, 1822, Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee; d. August 24, 1909, Macon County, Tennessee; m. ANN MCCLAIN SUTTON, October 17, 1844, Smith County, Tennessee; b. October 09, 1825, Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 06, 1906, Macon County, Tennessee. v. JESSE KEMP, b. September 20, 1825, Tennessee; d. August 04, 1908, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ELIZABETH CROWN SUTTON, Bef. 1847; b. August 18, 1827, Tennessee; d. April 21, 1900, Smith County, Tennessee. vi. JONATHAN C. KEMP, b. April 10, 1827, Smith County, Tennessee; d. June 1896, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) LUCY PAYNE, January 15, 1850, Smith County, Tennessee; b. February 22, 1828, Tennessee; d. 1880, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (2) MATILDA E. KNIGHT, January 27, 1881, Smith County, Tennessee; b. October 19, 1837, Tennessee; d. December 15, 1926, Smith County, Tennessee. vii. JAMES KEMP, b. Abt. 1832, Tennessee; d. Bet. 1854 - June 1856, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ALETHA JANE DAVIS, January 12, 1853, Smith County, Tennessee; b. 1826, Smith County, Tennessee; d. 1896, Smith County, Tennessee. viii. BAILEY PEYTON KEMP, b. February 25, 1836, Smith County, Tennessee; d. February 26, 1924, Sumner County, Tennessee; m. (1) JUDY GRINADE, November 24, 1854; b. February 06, 1826, Tennessee; d. March 05, 1907, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (2) MELVINIA RUSSELL, July 07, 1907, Smith County, Tennessee; b. Abt. 1858, Tennessee; d. Aft. 1910. ix. HARVEY (HARRY) KEMP, b. March 30, 1837, Smith County, Tennessee; d. July 18, 1911, Macon County, Tennessee; m. JANE R. RUSSELL, November 26, 1857, Smith County, Tennessee; b. May 1838, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 1908, Macon County, Tennessee. Mary Knight. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp Thank you Mary....my next question was going to be if Ada and Bertha were his sisters? Do you know what happend to Arthur Dewey? Bertha was only 23 when he died. I have no children for them but wondered where Arthur went....he probably remarried. Re James Riley Kemp John Sloan and Nancy P. (John had middle name of Milton). Would you please send me the generation of Murphy Kemp. Someone gave me Larkin-Burrell-Burrell-. It would help me. Thanks Melba M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Knight" <maryknight@famvid.com> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Re Kemps/Death Certificates > > > Thanks Mary...This opens a NEW file for me?? Don't have any children > listed > for James Riley, nor do I have a FIRST wife?? :>) > > Also, no children listed for John Milton, except now I have Ellen. > > Thanks again. Sue > > Sue here's what I have for James Riley Kemp. > John Milton Sloan to follow. > > Mary K. > > Descendants of James Riley Kemp > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. JAMES RILEY5 KEMP (LARKIN4, BURRELL3, MURPHY2, HENRY1) was born > August 16, 1845 in Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee, and died November > 26, 1916 in Monoville, Smith County, Tennessee. He married (1) MANERVA > FRANCES BROCKETT October 28, 1869 in Smith County, Tennessee, daughter of > BENJAMIN BROCKETT and LOUISE GOOD/GOAD. She was born July 02, 1850 in > Tennessee, and died June 17, 1879 in Tennessee. He married (2) ELLEN DORA > "ELDORA" SLOAN July 03, 1879 in Smith County, Tennessee, daughter of JOHN > SLOAN and NANCY PARKHURST. She was born February 16, 1860 in Smith > County, Tennessee, and died August 22, 1942 in Smith County, Tennessee. > > > > Children of JAMES KEMP and MANERVA BROCKETT are: > > i. JAMES MARSHALL6 KEMP, b. October 08, 1873, > Pleasant Shade, Smith County, Tennessee; d. October 04, 1967, Athens, > Limestone County, Alabama; m. PHERABY (FERBY) JANE MATTHEWS, December 13, > 1894, Smith County, Tennessee; b. November 01, 1876, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. October 31, 1951, Athens, Limestone County, Alabama. > > ii. CLARRICE "CLARA" ANN KEMP, b. July 28, 1877, Smith > County, Tennessee; d. October 18, 1930, Smith County, Tennessee; m. > ROBERT RIDLEY DILLEHAY, January 10, 1897, Smith County, Tennessee; b. > March 23, 1872, Smith County, Tennessee; d. June 24, 1948, Smith County, > Tennessee. > > > > > > Children of JAMES KEMP and ELLEN SLOAN are: > > iii. RUFUS JEFFERSON6 KEMP, b. March 06, 1881, Smith > County, Tennessee; d. October 14, 1962, Riddleton, Smith County, > Tennessee; m. SUSIE BEASLEY, October 16, 1904, Smith County, Tennessee; b. > September 25, 1886, Tennessee; d. June 29, 1937, Riddleton, Smith County, > Tennessee. > > iv. NANCY ADA KEMP, b. February 02, 1884, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. December 19, 1906, Smith County, Tennessee; m. HUBERT > (HERBERT) CLIMER, April 30, 1905, Smith County, Tennessee; b. January > 1882, Tennessee. > > v. BERTHA KEMP, b. September 23, 1889; d. January 14, > 1912; m. 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Correct me if I'm wrong (all you folks that live in that areat) but I think the early Brockett's lived close to Witcher (now Gibbs) Crossroads. If you go west from the crossroads, the GIBBS cemetery is on the right, the YOUNG cemetery is on the left, and I know there is another cemtery on the left and right of that road. I believe one of them is the Brockett Cemetery. Carmelita

----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re Ira Jason Sloan he is shown with date1869 - 1944 in Macon Co. II Book and buried in the Milltown Cemetery in Red Boiling Springs, Macon, Tenn. He is listed as Ira J. Sloan and she is listed as Dora Ann 1871 - 1934. Most of the time I see her listed as Dora Ann Goad Sloan but in 1910 Macon Co. Census she is listed as Isadora Ann. Info from David R. Vargas on Ira's obit states he was buried in the Jenkins Cemetery at Milltown. I don't believe Milltown is the same as Red Boiling Springs? Milltown is or was a community. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that? Macon Co., Times, April 2, 1944 Ira Jason Sloan, age 75 years, died at his home near Red Boiling Springs at about five-thirty o'clock Sunday morning after several months of poor health. Death was attributed to a pulmonary disorder. His wife, Mrs. Dora Ann Goad Sloan, preceded her husband in death about ten years ago. He is survived by three sons, Fred Sloan, of Red Boiling Springs; Cordell of Difficult; and Pvt. John Edward Sloan, now in a hospital at Martinsburg, W. Va.; three daughters, Mrs. J. W. Green, of Madison; Mrs. Houston Newberry, of Old Hickory; and Mrs. Tom Halliburton, who resided with her father; 13 grandchildren and five great-grandchildren. Burial was made Monday about 11 o'clock in the Jenkins Cemetery at Milltown, following funeral services in charge of Elder E. M. McDonald. The deceased was a professed Christian, although he was not identified with any church. He was the son of John Milton and Nancy Parkhurst Sloan and was born and reared in the Pleasant Shade section. However, he had resided in this county for more than half a century. He was a good man, loved and honored for his honesty, good character and sterling worth. I have been unable to find Nancy B. info so far and wonder if she died as a child. I did not locate her on the 1880 census but still checking. I don't have Isadora (Dora's) burial place but I guess it would also be Jenkins Cemetery at Milltown, Macon Co. TN? Mary K.

----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re Martha Sloan - I find her listed as only Nannie Moss b 5 may 1862 w/o of James Moss in the Macon Co. II Book. Does she also have the name of Nancy? I list her as Martha (Nannie) Sloan. Where is James buried? Well, Melba I didn't think Martha and Nancy were the same person? 1870 census Martha was 5yrs (ca 1865) 1880 census no Martha and Nancy B. was 9 yrs. (ca 1871) Perhap's Nancy's age is wrong in 1880? because it appears by that census she was born ca 1871. But I do see the cemetery record online has Nannie Moss 5 May 1862 - 13 Sep 1905 w/o James Moss, which are the dates I had for Martha Sloan? I don't have a marriage date for this marriage or any dates for James Moss. 1870 Smith Co. cdpg 72b. Sloan John 36 b. TN Sloan Nancy 36 b. TN Sloan Archibald 15 b. TN Sloan Ellen D. 11 b. TN Sloan Martha 5 b. TN Sloan Ira J. 3/12 b. TN 1880 Census: Sloand, John 47, Head, TN, TN, TN -----, Nancy 47, Wife, TN, TN, TN -----, Archa. W. 25, Son, TN, TN, TN -----, Ira 12, Son, TN, TN, TN -----, Nancy B. 9, Daughter, TN, TN, TN Mary Knight

----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re Archibacl W. Sloan - In both N/C and in the Macon Co. Book they are simply listed as A. W. Sloan 14 JUNE (not Jan) 1855 - 24 Dec 1900; and P. P. Sloan 3 Aug 1862 - 3 July 1924. Is June a typo error? Yes, A. W. should read June 14, 1855 - Dec. 24, 1940 (not 1900) I didn't have a fill date so I may have gotten January from census or something? Anyway I've corrected it. Mary Knight

----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re John Milton Sloan - you will find him in the Macon Co. Vol II Cem. Book with errors - Pg 60 lists John M. Sloan with date 23 Jan 1884 (NOT 1834 which is correct) with death date of 18 Nov 1920 - with Nancy Sloan 29 mar 1835 - 1 July 1900. It states they are buried in the Brockett Cemetery IN PLEASANT SHADE, SMITH CO. I have found records stating this Brockett Cem. is both in Macon Co., (RBS) and in Pleasant Shade...I Know the territory is close but which should we use? http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/cempics/brockett.htm Melba if you'll look at the cemetery pictures that John & Retta Waggoner have located and taken pictures of you will see exactly where this cemetery is. "Brockett Cemetery Located at Russell Hill Hwy 80 not far from Smith Co. line." This cemetery is listed in both the Macon Co. & Smith Co. books but it is in Macon Co. and quite a ways from Red Boiling Springs if I'm not mistaken? Just a side note, John's (my husband) father always told us he was born in Red Boiling Springs But his birth certificate gives RR Pleasant Shade as place of residence of his Parents at the time of his birth. He was Delivered by Dr. John J. Beasley of Pleasant Shade, Smith County, TN. My guess would be if a family lived in the rural area around Pleasant Shade, they may have been born in Macon Co. or Smith Co.? Mary K.

----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re John Milton Sloan & Nancy, I have same s/o Jason Ramsey Sloan, s/o John Sloan. Yes Mary K.

Melba, We have updated the Brockett Cemetery. It is in Macon County with a Pleasant Shade address. John's birthdate is 23 Jan 1834, I read Naney Sloan instead of Nancy. Also the Russell Cemetery, but the info from a family member states A W Sloan is the D/O Johnny R & Mary A "Polly" Russell and death date is 24 Dec 1940 on stone. The Nannie Moss death date is 13 Sep 1905. Teresa Teresa, did you mean A. W. Sloan's "wife" is daughter of Johnny R. & Mary A. "Polly" Russell. Archibald W. Sloan's wife was Pauline Pontes "Puss" Russell daughter of John Robert Russell & Mary Ann "Polly" Shoulders. 1910 Macon Co. census Sloan Archie W. 54 mar 23y Sloan, Puss wife 47 mar 23ys no children Russell, Mary A. 75 wid MnL wd 9ch 4liv Mary Knight

WOW.....all of this Kemp family info....I've been away and look what I missed........Does anyone have something on William Bradley Kemp b abt 1866 who married Susan Ellen Wade b Aug 3, 1866. That's really all I know, except that Susan Wade came from the Bell family ......thanks Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eldon Wilkins" <MelEl512@att.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > Thanks Mary...it has/is been confusing...I will > not add my 2 cents right now...have a relative > who is snail mailing me some info re Kemps > she has and will digest it and discuss with > y'all before I take it as "gospel" unless of course > it matches what we have. > > (Re children of Ira Jason I have floating names > in file but have to be sure where fit..need first > names of girls...doing more looking now.) > Think Bill is napping now. M. > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Mary Knight > Date: 10/08/05 09:56:36 > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > > No Melba, I don't know any more about Arthur Dewey, maybe Bill Kemp does, > this is his line. Rufus Jefferson being his grandfather. > > I may start a controversy over this one. But Gary Pace, Bill Kemp & Judith > Holley and I, maybe others do "not" believe Burrell Kemp that married > Elizabeth (we believe her last name was Rowland) Rowling was son of Burrell > Kemp & Nancy Foster as has been reported by others including info in the > History of Smith Co. book. We've worked on this together for a while now. > Many people have listed him (including me) as Burrell Kemp, Jr. but no where > have any of us been able to find him listed in any offical records as > Burrell Kemp "Jr". > He is we believe the son of Murphy Kemp & Sarah that is listed in the > Goodner book records as Burrell Kemp b. 4-7-1794. This is who we believe > married Elizabeth Rowland, not Rowling or Romling as some have it. Judith > has a copy of the marriage license and although difficult to read we believe > her name was Rowland. (I've also see various spellings for Rowland). > > So on this I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves which is > correct? > > So her is what I have for Murphy's children. I will send what I have for > Burrell & Nancy Kemp seperate. > Descendants of Burrell Kemp > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. BURRELL3 KEMP (MURPHY2, HENRY1) was born April 07, 1794 in Wake County, > North Carolina, and died Aft. 1880. He married (1) ELIZABETH ROWLING > (ROWLAND) November 03, 1813 in Lebanon, Wilson County, Tennessee. She was > born 1795 in North Carolina, and died Bet. 1870 - 1874. He married (2) JANE > RUSSELL September 27, 1874. She was born Abt. 1828 in Tennessee. > > > Children of BURRELL KEMP and ELIZABETH (ROWLAND) are: > > i. WILLIAM LAYTON4 KEMP, b. September 1817, Tennessee; d. January 11, 1905, > Difficult, Tennessee; m. DOROTHY PANKEY, Abt. 1839; b. Abt. 1817, Tennessee; > d. October 21, 1891, Difficult, Tennessee. > > ii. JENKS KEMP, b. Abt. 1818, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ELIZABETH ALETHIA > CARDWELL, Abt. 1839; b. Abt. 1813, Tennessee. > > iii. ASA KEMP, b. December 27, 1820, Smith County, Tennessee; d. January 04, > 1890, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) MARY ANN "POLLY" WILLIAMS, November 21 > 1839, Smith County, Tennessee; b. November 07, 1822, Tennessee; d. March 08 > 1882, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (2) MINERVA JANE SUTTON, Bet. 1880 - 1890 > prob Macon County, Tennessee; b. August 21, 1836, Smith County, Tennessee; > d. February 04, 1915, Era, Cooke County, Texas. > > iv. LARKIN KEMP, b. September 16, 1822, Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee; d > August 24, 1909, Macon County, Tennessee; m. ANN MCCLAIN SUTTON, October 17 > 1844, Smith County, Tennessee; b. October 09, 1825, Defeated, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. November 06, 1906, Macon County, Tennessee. > > v. JESSE KEMP, b. September 20, 1825, Tennessee; d. August 04, 1908, > Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ELIZABETH CROWN SUTTON, Bef. 1847; b. > August 18, 1827, Tennessee; d. April 21, 1900, Smith County, Tennessee. > > vi. JONATHAN C. KEMP, b. April 10, 1827, Smith County, Tennessee; d. June > 1896, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) LUCY PAYNE, January 15, 1850, Smith > County, Tennessee; b. February 22, 1828, Tennessee; d. 1880, Smith County, > Tennessee; m. (2) MATILDA E. KNIGHT, January 27, 1881, Smith County, > Tennessee; b. October 19, 1837, Tennessee; d. December 15, 1926, Smith > County, Tennessee. > > vii. JAMES KEMP, b. Abt. 1832, Tennessee; d. Bet. 1854 - June 1856, Smith > County, Tennessee; m. ALETHA JANE DAVIS, January 12, 1853, Smith County, > Tennessee; b. 1826, Smith County, Tennessee; d. 1896, Smith County, > Tennessee. > > viii. BAILEY PEYTON KEMP, b. February 25, 1836, Smith County, Tennessee; d. > February 26, 1924, Sumner County, Tennessee; m. (1) JUDY GRINADE, November > 24, 1854; b. February 06, 1826, Tennessee; d. March 05, 1907, Smith County, > Tennessee; m. (2) MELVINIA RUSSELL, July 07, 1907, Smith County, Tennessee; > b. Abt. 1858, Tennessee; d. Aft. 1910. > > ix. HARVEY (HARRY) KEMP, b. March 30, 1837, Smith County, Tennessee; d. July > 18, 1911, Macon County, Tennessee; m. JANE R. RUSSELL, November 26, 1857, > Smith County, Tennessee; b. May 1838, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November > 1908, Macon County, Tennessee. > > > Mary Knight. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eldon Wilkins > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:06 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > > > Thank you Mary....my next question was going to be > if Ada and Bertha were his sisters? Do you know > what happend to Arthur Dewey? Bertha was only 23 > when he died. I have no children for them but wondered > where Arthur went....he probably remarried. > > Re James Riley Kemp John Sloan and Nancy P. > (John had middle name of Milton). > > Would you please send me the generation of Murphy Kemp. Someone gave me > Larkin-Burrell-Burrell-. > It would help me. > > Thanks > Melba > M. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Knight" <maryknight@famvid.com> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:11 PM > Subject: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Re Kemps/Death Certificates > > > > > > Thanks Mary...This opens a NEW file for me?? Don't have any children > > listed > > for James Riley, nor do I have a FIRST wife?? :>) > > > > Also, no children listed for John Milton, except now I have Ellen. > > > > Thanks again. Sue > > > > Sue here's what I have for James Riley Kemp. > > John Milton Sloan to follow. > > > > Mary K. > > > > Descendants of James Riley Kemp > > > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > > > > > 1. JAMES RILEY5 KEMP (LARKIN4, BURRELL3, MURPHY2, HENRY1) was born > > August 16, 1845 in Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee, and died November > > 26, 1916 in Monoville, Smith County, Tennessee. He married (1) MANERVA > > FRANCES BROCKETT October 28, 1869 in Smith County, Tennessee, daughter of > > BENJAMIN BROCKETT and LOUISE GOOD/GOAD. She was born July 02, 1850 in > > Tennessee, and died June 17, 1879 in Tennessee. He married (2) ELLEN DORA > > "ELDORA" SLOAN July 03, 1879 in Smith County, Tennessee, daughter of JOHN > > SLOAN and NANCY PARKHURST. She was born February 16, 1860 in Smith > > County, Tennessee, and died August 22, 1942 in Smith County, Tennessee. > > > > > > > > Children of JAMES KEMP and MANERVA BROCKETT are: > > > > i. JAMES MARSHALL6 KEMP, b. October 08, 1873, > > Pleasant Shade, Smith County, Tennessee; d. October 04, 1967, Athens, > > Limestone County, Alabama; m. PHERABY (FERBY) JANE MATTHEWS, December 13, > > 1894, Smith County, Tennessee; b. November 01, 1876, Smith County, > > Tennessee; d. October 31, 1951, Athens, Limestone County, Alabama. > > > > ii. CLARRICE "CLARA" ANN KEMP, b. July 28, 1877, Smith > > County, Tennessee; d. October 18, 1930, Smith County, Tennessee; m. > > ROBERT RIDLEY DILLEHAY, January 10, 1897, Smith County, Tennessee; b. > > March 23, 1872, Smith County, Tennessee; d. June 24, 1948, Smith County, > > Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > Children of JAMES KEMP and ELLEN SLOAN are: > > > > iii. RUFUS JEFFERSON6 KEMP, b. March 06, 1881, Smith > > County, Tennessee; d. October 14, 1962, Riddleton, Smith County, > > Tennessee; m. SUSIE BEASLEY, October 16, 1904, Smith County, Tennessee; b. > > September 25, 1886, Tennessee; d. June 29, 1937, Riddleton, Smith County, > > Tennessee. > > > > iv. NANCY ADA KEMP, b. February 02, 1884, Smith County, > > Tennessee; d. December 19, 1906, Smith County, Tennessee; m. HUBERT > > (HERBERT) CLIMER, April 30, 1905, Smith County, Tennessee; b. January > > 1882, Tennessee. > > > > v. BERTHA KEMP, b. September 23, 1889; d. January 14, > > 1912; m. ARTHUR (DUER) DEWEY, October 30, 1910. > > > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... > > Already in Progress! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > > > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Add Your Surnames to Our Smith County Surnames Page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/surnames.htm > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Smith Co Web Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > >

Thanks Mary...it has/is been confusing...I will not add my 2 cents right now...have a relative who is snail mailing me some info re Kemps she has and will digest it and discuss with y'all before I take it as "gospel" unless of course it matches what we have. (Re children of Ira Jason I have floating names in file but have to be sure where fit..need first names of girls...doing more looking now.) Think Bill is napping now. M. -------Original Message------- From: Mary Knight Date: 10/08/05 09:56:36 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp No Melba, I don't know any more about Arthur Dewey, maybe Bill Kemp does, this is his line. Rufus Jefferson being his grandfather. I may start a controversy over this one. But Gary Pace, Bill Kemp & Judith Holley and I, maybe others do "not" believe Burrell Kemp that married Elizabeth (we believe her last name was Rowland) Rowling was son of Burrell Kemp & Nancy Foster as has been reported by others including info in the History of Smith Co. book. We've worked on this together for a while now. Many people have listed him (including me) as Burrell Kemp, Jr. but no where have any of us been able to find him listed in any offical records as Burrell Kemp "Jr". He is we believe the son of Murphy Kemp & Sarah that is listed in the Goodner book records as Burrell Kemp b. 4-7-1794. This is who we believe married Elizabeth Rowland, not Rowling or Romling as some have it. Judith has a copy of the marriage license and although difficult to read we believe her name was Rowland. (I've also see various spellings for Rowland). So on this I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves which is correct? So her is what I have for Murphy's children. I will send what I have for Burrell & Nancy Kemp seperate. Descendants of Burrell Kemp Generation No. 1 1. BURRELL3 KEMP (MURPHY2, HENRY1) was born April 07, 1794 in Wake County, North Carolina, and died Aft. 1880. He married (1) ELIZABETH ROWLING (ROWLAND) November 03, 1813 in Lebanon, Wilson County, Tennessee. She was born 1795 in North Carolina, and died Bet. 1870 - 1874. He married (2) JANE RUSSELL September 27, 1874. She was born Abt. 1828 in Tennessee. Children of BURRELL KEMP and ELIZABETH (ROWLAND) are: i. WILLIAM LAYTON4 KEMP, b. September 1817, Tennessee; d. January 11, 1905, Difficult, Tennessee; m. DOROTHY PANKEY, Abt. 1839; b. Abt. 1817, Tennessee; d. October 21, 1891, Difficult, Tennessee. ii. JENKS KEMP, b. Abt. 1818, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ELIZABETH ALETHIA CARDWELL, Abt. 1839; b. Abt. 1813, Tennessee. iii. ASA KEMP, b. December 27, 1820, Smith County, Tennessee; d. January 04, 1890, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) MARY ANN "POLLY" WILLIAMS, November 21 1839, Smith County, Tennessee; b. November 07, 1822, Tennessee; d. March 08 1882, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (2) MINERVA JANE SUTTON, Bet. 1880 - 1890 prob Macon County, Tennessee; b. August 21, 1836, Smith County, Tennessee; d. February 04, 1915, Era, Cooke County, Texas. iv. LARKIN KEMP, b. September 16, 1822, Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee; d August 24, 1909, Macon County, Tennessee; m. ANN MCCLAIN SUTTON, October 17 1844, Smith County, Tennessee; b. October 09, 1825, Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 06, 1906, Macon County, Tennessee. v. JESSE KEMP, b. September 20, 1825, Tennessee; d. August 04, 1908, Difficult, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ELIZABETH CROWN SUTTON, Bef. 1847; b. August 18, 1827, Tennessee; d. April 21, 1900, Smith County, Tennessee. vi. JONATHAN C. KEMP, b. April 10, 1827, Smith County, Tennessee; d. June 1896, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (1) LUCY PAYNE, January 15, 1850, Smith County, Tennessee; b. February 22, 1828, Tennessee; d. 1880, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (2) MATILDA E. KNIGHT, January 27, 1881, Smith County, Tennessee; b. October 19, 1837, Tennessee; d. December 15, 1926, Smith County, Tennessee. vii. JAMES KEMP, b. Abt. 1832, Tennessee; d. Bet. 1854 - June 1856, Smith County, Tennessee; m. ALETHA JANE DAVIS, January 12, 1853, Smith County, Tennessee; b. 1826, Smith County, Tennessee; d. 1896, Smith County, Tennessee. viii. BAILEY PEYTON KEMP, b. February 25, 1836, Smith County, Tennessee; d. February 26, 1924, Sumner County, Tennessee; m. (1) JUDY GRINADE, November 24, 1854; b. February 06, 1826, Tennessee; d. March 05, 1907, Smith County, Tennessee; m. (2) MELVINIA RUSSELL, July 07, 1907, Smith County, Tennessee; b. Abt. 1858, Tennessee; d. Aft. 1910. ix. HARVEY (HARRY) KEMP, b. March 30, 1837, Smith County, Tennessee; d. July 18, 1911, Macon County, Tennessee; m. JANE R. RUSSELL, November 26, 1857, Smith County, Tennessee; b. May 1838, Smith County, Tennessee; d. November 1908, Macon County, Tennessee. Mary Knight. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp Thank you Mary....my next question was going to be if Ada and Bertha were his sisters? Do you know what happend to Arthur Dewey? Bertha was only 23 when he died. I have no children for them but wondered where Arthur went....he probably remarried. Re James Riley Kemp John Sloan and Nancy P. (John had middle name of Milton). Would you please send me the generation of Murphy Kemp. Someone gave me Larkin-Burrell-Burrell-. It would help me. Thanks Melba M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Knight" <maryknight@famvid.com> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] James Riley Kemp > > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Re Kemps/Death Certificates > > > Thanks Mary...This opens a NEW file for me?? Don't have any children > listed > for James Riley, nor do I have a FIRST wife?? :>) > > Also, no children listed for John Milton, except now I have Ellen. > > Thanks again. Sue > > Sue here's what I have for James Riley Kemp. > John Milton Sloan to follow. > > Mary K. > > Descendants of James Riley Kemp > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. JAMES RILEY5 KEMP (LARKIN4, BURRELL3, MURPHY2, HENRY1) was born > August 16, 1845 in Defeated, Smith County, Tennessee, and died November > 26, 1916 in Monoville, Smith County, Tennessee. He married (1) MANERVA > FRANCES BROCKETT October 28, 1869 in Smith County, Tennessee, daughter of > BENJAMIN BROCKETT and LOUISE GOOD/GOAD. She was born July 02, 1850 in > Tennessee, and died June 17, 1879 in Tennessee. He married (2) ELLEN DORA > "ELDORA" SLOAN July 03, 1879 in Smith County, Tennessee, daughter of JOHN > SLOAN and NANCY PARKHURST. She was born February 16, 1860 in Smith > County, Tennessee, and died August 22, 1942 in Smith County, Tennessee. > > > > Children of JAMES KEMP and MANERVA BROCKETT are: > > i. JAMES MARSHALL6 KEMP, b. October 08, 1873, > Pleasant Shade, Smith County, Tennessee; d. October 04, 1967, Athens, > Limestone County, Alabama; m. PHERABY (FERBY) JANE MATTHEWS, December 13, > 1894, Smith County, Tennessee; b. November 01, 1876, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. October 31, 1951, Athens, Limestone County, Alabama. > > ii. CLARRICE "CLARA" ANN KEMP, b. July 28, 1877, Smith > County, Tennessee; d. October 18, 1930, Smith County, Tennessee; m. > ROBERT RIDLEY DILLEHAY, January 10, 1897, Smith County, Tennessee; b. > March 23, 1872, Smith County, Tennessee; d. June 24, 1948, Smith County, > Tennessee. > > > > > > Children of JAMES KEMP and ELLEN SLOAN are: > > iii. RUFUS JEFFERSON6 KEMP, b. March 06, 1881, Smith > County, Tennessee; d. October 14, 1962, Riddleton, Smith County, > Tennessee; m. SUSIE BEASLEY, October 16, 1904, Smith County, Tennessee; b. > September 25, 1886, Tennessee; d. June 29, 1937, Riddleton, Smith County, > Tennessee. > > iv. NANCY ADA KEMP, b. February 02, 1884, Smith County, > Tennessee; d. December 19, 1906, Smith County, Tennessee; m. HUBERT > (HERBERT) CLIMER, April 30, 1905, Smith County, Tennessee; b. January > 1882, Tennessee. > > v. BERTHA KEMP, b. September 23, 1889; d. January 14, > 1912; m. ARTHUR (DUER) DEWEY, October 30, 1910. > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... > Already in Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Add Your Surnames to Our Smith County Surnames Page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/surnames.htm

Hi List, Reading the info on James R.[Riley] and his wife. Her naame was Ellender D. Sloan dau. of John Milton Sloan and Nancy Parkhurst. Hope this helps. Vi Vi do you have a good source for her name? In 1860 census she's listed as Ellander 1yr, 1870 she's listed as Ellen D. 11 yrs, 1880 she's listed as Ella D. 20 yrs. Her marriage record says Ella D. Sloan http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/marriages/marraigesroll88-89b.htm And 1900 census says Eldora Kemp http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/smith/census/1900/095-01a.gif And her death certificate says Elnora Kemp. Cemetery records online has E. O. Kemp b. Feb. 16, 1860 d. August 22, 1942 Her Death certificate has b. Feb. 16, 1860, d. Aug. 22 (or 23?), 1942, burial Aug. 23, 1942, And I will check with him but I believe Bill Kemp gave me her name as Eldora? This is his great-grandmother. What say you Bill? Mary Knight

So, Mary you can see my confusion too when I saw those dates for Nannie matched those of Martha. It is the same in the book as is online. So far, only James Moss I have come up with is James Robert Moss 15 Apr 1882 - 11 Mar 1947 H/O Mattie Moss (no dates) pg 291 Macon Co. II, buried in the Shrum Cemetery/Alvis Graveyard. And with the dates as they are do not think it is the same James Moss we are looking for. M. -------Original Message------- From: Mary Knight Date: 10/08/05 09:10:03 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops ----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re Martha Sloan - I find her listed as only Nannie Moss b 5 may 1862 w/o of James Moss in the Macon Co. II Book. Does she also have the name of Nancy? I list her as Martha (Nannie) Sloan. Where is James buried? Well, Melba I didn't think Martha and Nancy were the same person? 1870 census Martha was 5yrs (ca 1865) 1880 census no Martha and Nancy B. was 9 yrs. (ca 1871) Perhap's Nancy's age is wrong in 1880? because it appears by that census she was born ca 1871. But I do see the cemetery record online has Nannie Moss 5 May 1862 - 13 Sep 1905 w/o James Moss, which are the dates I had for Martha Sloan? I don't have a marriage date for this marriage or any dates for James Moss. 1870 Smith Co. cdpg 72b. Sloan John 36 b. TN Sloan Nancy 36 b. TN Sloan Archibald 15 b. TN Sloan Ellen D. 11 b. TN Sloan Martha 5 b. TN Sloan Ira J. 3/12 b. TN 1880 Census: Sloand, John 47, Head, TN, TN, TN -----, Nancy 47, Wife, TN, TN, TN -----, Archa. W. 25, Son, TN, TN, TN -----, Ira 12, Son, TN, TN, TN -----, Nancy B. 9, Daughter, TN, TN, TN Mary Knight ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The Cumberland River at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/

Thanks Mary....I had always thought Brockette in Smith Co. and then when I began the search in the Macon Co. Books wanted to find out for sure...remember years ago taking Callie Taylor and Opal West for a ride from Pleasant Shade into Macon Co. and had recalled how close the lines were...those girls were so cute...they had not been anywhere for a long while and you would have thought we took them to Paris. I do miss them. (You keep reminding me to go into those sites....I need 2 computers going at the same time.) M. -------Original Message------- From: Mary Knight Date: 10/08/05 08:44:04 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops ----- Original Message ----- From: Eldon Wilkins To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] John Milton Sloan, Oops Re John Milton Sloan - you will find him in the Macon Co. Vol II Cem. Book with errors - Pg 60 lists John M. Sloan with date 23 Jan 1884 (NOT 1834 which is correct) with death date of 18 Nov 1920 - with Nancy Sloan 29 mar 1835 - 1 July 1900. It states they are buried in the Brockett Cemetery IN PLEASANT SHADE, SMITH CO. I have found records stating this Brockett Cem. is both in Macon Co., (RBS) and in Pleasant Shade...I Know the territory is close but which should we use? http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/cempics/brockett.htm Melba if you'll look at the cemetery pictures that John & Retta Waggoner have located and taken pictures of you will see exactly where this cemetery is. "Brockett Cemetery Located at Russell Hill Hwy 80 not far from Smith Co. line." This cemetery is listed in both the Macon Co. & Smith Co. books but it is in Macon Co. and quite a ways from Red Boiling Springs if I'm not mistaken? Just a side note, John's (my husband) father always told us he was born in Red Boiling Springs But his birth certificate gives RR Pleasant Shade as place of residence of his Parents at the time of his birth. He was Delivered by Dr. John J. Beasley of Pleasant Shade, Smith County, TN. My guess would be if a family lived in the rural area around Pleasant Shade, they may have been born in Macon Co. or Smith Co.? Mary K. ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The Cumberland River at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/