Where is/was Beech Grove Baptist Church that was established in either Smith or Macon Counties in the 19th century?

Robert J. (John) Alcorn, son of Nancy Lewis and Richard Alson Alcorn married Annie Frances Gragg. He was born 8 February 1873 and died 10/12 February 1947. In the Dickens Cemetery records he is buried beside Mary C. Alcorn who was born 1 June 1882 and died 3 June 1946. Does anyone know her maiden name and when he married either one of them?

Peggy, I also have Family Tree Maker, try to keep it and paperwork data together. I use three ring binders and list each family in one (have up to 3 on some families) for the paperwork. Once in awhile I try to check one against the other. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Coleman" <graciepmarvel@bellsouth.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings > BTW I did write down his wife's name and the place and date of marriage. > Wonder where his name came from and what it means. Also his brother > Burket or Berket. I wonder about these odd names. My grandfather was > named Aldra. There was a man here in Nashville about 20 years ago who > specialized in telling people who odd names meant. Aldra means first. > Wish he was available to do that now. I am going to have to forget > everything else and find a way to put all of my genealogy sheets in some > kind of order so I can find them. Any suggestions as to how to do this? > When you have so many last names to deal with. I have Family Tree Maker > but have not worked with it for years. That helps locate people but does > not help with all the paperwork you accumulate over time. I have been > doing this since 1965 and have a lot of paper. Help. Anyone? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Harvill" <gsharvil@bellsouth.net> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:21 PM > Subject: RE: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings > > >> Peggy, >> >> I had the same problem with my Great grand Father Absalom Reems Harvill >> (Harvel , Harvell, Harville). He end up in Cumberland County TN, but >> never >> knew where he came from. >> >> He was born in 1849 >> >> The 1850 census had him listed as Reems HARVELL >> The 1860 Census had him listed as Alfred G Harvill >> The 1870 Census listed him as Absalom Harvel >> Absolom R. Harvel married Podemanda (Amanda) Smith Aug 10, 1871 in Smith >> County. >> >> Most people have Alfred as being dead before 1860. >> >> BTW I have seen spellings for Harvill as HARVEL, HARVELL, HARVIL , >> HARVILL, >> HARVILLE and sometimes HARREL or HARWELL >> >> Thanks >> >> Jerry Harvill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Linda Lewis [mailto:llewis001@centurytel.net] >> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:06 PM >> To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings >> >> I know that, I just haven't seen Lucinda before in my tree. Those names >> can >> >> really get messed up. >> I located my grandfather Ernest Carlisle only by accident in Smith >> county >> 1930 census. His last name was garbled beyond recognition, but he was >> living with his in laws. James Turner Harville and Fannie. >> Linda >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peggy Coleman" <graciepmarvel@bellsouth.net> >> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell >> >> >>> Linda, Harville, Harvel, Harvil, was sometimes written as Harwell in >>> some >> >>> of the census records. Not sure which census record or which >>> individual. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> >>> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell >>> >>> >>>> Pat were you asking me? Because of my Harville line? I'm aware that a >>>> Harwell family shows up in Smith county. I don't know if she could be >>>> one of mine or not. I haven't seen her name before. >>>> Linda Carlisle Lewis >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <GREENWPAT@aol.com> >>>> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:19 PM >>>> Subject: [TNSMITH] Harwell >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have a direct ancestor named Lucinda Harwell born 1814 in Smith >>>>>County, >>>>> Tennessee. Could she be one of yours? >>>>> >>>>> Pat Greenwood >>>>> I hear ethereal voices, persuasive soft and still, >>>>> Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>>>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>>>> Already in Progress! >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>>> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >>>> Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. >>> Already In Progress! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >> Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The Cumberland River >> at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/ >> >> > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Visit Photos Of Cemeteries Of Smith County Over 500 + Cemeteries online > with pictures and Descriptions > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/cempics.htm > >

Could someone give a update on Vada and exactly how she fits in i'm not sure i know she's told me but i can't remember Charlie Eldon Wilkins wrote: > Charlie...I noted previously where you stated Vada was ill. > Please tell me where she fits in our Smith Co. History.... > who parents, etc. Melba > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Charles Gregory > Date: 10/27/05 15:18:36 > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Vada Sutton Retires Update > > i found this out today here is the actual webpage! > > http://www.bellcountytx.com/Press%20Release%205.htm > > Charlie > > > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Smith Co Web Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >

Peggy, I had the same problem with my Great grand Father Absalom Reems Harvill (Harvel , Harvell, Harville). He end up in Cumberland County TN, but never knew where he came from. He was born in 1849 The 1850 census had him listed as Reems HARVELL The 1860 Census had him listed as Alfred G Harvill The 1870 Census listed him as Absalom Harvel Absolom R. Harvel married Podemanda (Amanda) Smith Aug 10, 1871 in Smith County. Most people have Alfred as being dead before 1860. BTW I have seen spellings for Harvill as HARVEL, HARVELL, HARVIL , HARVILL, HARVILLE and sometimes HARREL or HARWELL Thanks Jerry Harvill -----Original Message----- From: Linda Lewis [mailto:llewis001@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:06 PM To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings I know that, I just haven't seen Lucinda before in my tree. Those names can really get messed up. I located my grandfather Ernest Carlisle only by accident in Smith county 1930 census. His last name was garbled beyond recognition, but he was living with his in laws. James Turner Harville and Fannie. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Coleman" <graciepmarvel@bellsouth.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell > Linda, Harville, Harvel, Harvil, was sometimes written as Harwell in some > of the census records. Not sure which census record or which individual. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:36 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell > > >> Pat were you asking me? Because of my Harville line? I'm aware that a >> Harwell family shows up in Smith county. I don't know if she could be >> one of mine or not. I haven't seen her name before. >> Linda Carlisle Lewis >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <GREENWPAT@aol.com> >> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:19 PM >> Subject: [TNSMITH] Harwell >> >> >>>I have a direct ancestor named Lucinda Harwell born 1814 in Smith County, >>> Tennessee. Could she be one of yours? >>> >>> Pat Greenwood >>> I hear ethereal voices, persuasive soft and still, >>> Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>> Already in Progress! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >> Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >> >> > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. > Already In Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/

List, I have a Edgar H Sutton 07 Apr 1889 - 22 Jun 1970 marDana Copas 08 Dec 1890 - 23 Feb 1951 picture of tombstones, but can't remember the name of the cemetery they are in. Can anyone tell me? Thanks, Teresa

i found this out today here is the actual webpage! http://www.bellcountytx.com/Press%20Release%205.htm Charlie

BTW I did write down his wife's name and the place and date of marriage. Wonder where his name came from and what it means. Also his brother Burket or Berket. I wonder about these odd names. My grandfather was named Aldra. There was a man here in Nashville about 20 years ago who specialized in telling people who odd names meant. Aldra means first. Wish he was available to do that now. I am going to have to forget everything else and find a way to put all of my genealogy sheets in some kind of order so I can find them. Any suggestions as to how to do this? When you have so many last names to deal with. I have Family Tree Maker but have not worked with it for years. That helps locate people but does not help with all the paperwork you accumulate over time. I have been doing this since 1965 and have a lot of paper. Help. Anyone? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Harvill" <gsharvil@bellsouth.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: RE: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings > Peggy, > > I had the same problem with my Great grand Father Absalom Reems Harvill > (Harvel , Harvell, Harville). He end up in Cumberland County TN, but > never > knew where he came from. > > He was born in 1849 > > The 1850 census had him listed as Reems HARVELL > The 1860 Census had him listed as Alfred G Harvill > The 1870 Census listed him as Absalom Harvel > Absolom R. Harvel married Podemanda (Amanda) Smith Aug 10, 1871 in Smith > County. > > Most people have Alfred as being dead before 1860. > > BTW I have seen spellings for Harvill as HARVEL, HARVELL, HARVIL , > HARVILL, > HARVILLE and sometimes HARREL or HARWELL > > Thanks > > Jerry Harvill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Lewis [mailto:llewis001@centurytel.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:06 PM > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings > > I know that, I just haven't seen Lucinda before in my tree. Those names > can > > really get messed up. > I located my grandfather Ernest Carlisle only by accident in Smith county > 1930 census. His last name was garbled beyond recognition, but he was > living with his in laws. James Turner Harville and Fannie. > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Coleman" <graciepmarvel@bellsouth.net> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell > > >> Linda, Harville, Harvel, Harvil, was sometimes written as Harwell in >> some > >> of the census records. Not sure which census record or which individual. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> >> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell >> >> >>> Pat were you asking me? Because of my Harville line? I'm aware that a >>> Harwell family shows up in Smith county. I don't know if she could be >>> one of mine or not. I haven't seen her name before. >>> Linda Carlisle Lewis >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <GREENWPAT@aol.com> >>> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:19 PM >>> Subject: [TNSMITH] Harwell >>> >>> >>>>I have a direct ancestor named Lucinda Harwell born 1814 in Smith >>>>County, >>>> Tennessee. Could she be one of yours? >>>> >>>> Pat Greenwood >>>> I hear ethereal voices, persuasive soft and still, >>>> Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>>> Already in Progress! >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >>> Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. >> Already In Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> >> >> > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > > > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The Cumberland River > at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/ > >

I have seen his name spelled Reams also. I have him born December 1849/50 in Smith Co, TN. Is this what you have? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Harvill" <gsharvil@bellsouth.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: RE: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings > Peggy, > > I had the same problem with my Great grand Father Absalom Reems Harvill > (Harvel , Harvell, Harville). He end up in Cumberland County TN, but > never > knew where he came from. > > He was born in 1849 > > The 1850 census had him listed as Reems HARVELL > The 1860 Census had him listed as Alfred G Harvill > The 1870 Census listed him as Absalom Harvel > Absolom R. Harvel married Podemanda (Amanda) Smith Aug 10, 1871 in Smith > County. > > Most people have Alfred as being dead before 1860. > > BTW I have seen spellings for Harvill as HARVEL, HARVELL, HARVIL , > HARVILL, > HARVILLE and sometimes HARREL or HARWELL > > Thanks > > Jerry Harvill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Lewis [mailto:llewis001@centurytel.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:06 PM > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell and messed up spellings > > I know that, I just haven't seen Lucinda before in my tree. Those names > can > > really get messed up. > I located my grandfather Ernest Carlisle only by accident in Smith county > 1930 census. His last name was garbled beyond recognition, but he was > living with his in laws. James Turner Harville and Fannie. > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Coleman" <graciepmarvel@bellsouth.net> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell > > >> Linda, Harville, Harvel, Harvil, was sometimes written as Harwell in >> some > >> of the census records. Not sure which census record or which individual. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> >> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell >> >> >>> Pat were you asking me? Because of my Harville line? I'm aware that a >>> Harwell family shows up in Smith county. I don't know if she could be >>> one of mine or not. I haven't seen her name before. >>> Linda Carlisle Lewis >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <GREENWPAT@aol.com> >>> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:19 PM >>> Subject: [TNSMITH] Harwell >>> >>> >>>>I have a direct ancestor named Lucinda Harwell born 1814 in Smith >>>>County, >>>> Tennessee. Could she be one of yours? >>>> >>>> Pat Greenwood >>>> I hear ethereal voices, persuasive soft and still, >>>> Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>>> Already in Progress! >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >>> Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. >> Already In Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> >> >> > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > > > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The Cumberland River > at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/ > >

I want to add to whats written below Vadda spent months helping get data online for the website but she took no credit and when you look around the website remember Vada might have done that! Vada if you are still on the list .... Good Luck and if you ever get bored Just yell i got lots of things to do<g>! Charlie =============== An era unlikely to ever be repeated ended today, September 30, 2005, with the retirement of Bell County Clerk Vada Sutton. For over 52 years, Ms. Sutton reported to work at Bell County. For the past 18 years she has been County Clerk. But her history began in February of 1953, when as an 18 year old graduate of Salado High School, she started as secretary in the District Attorney's office. In 1960, she moved on to the County Judge's office where she stayed for four years before coming the Court Reporter for the District Court (there was only one then) for two years. In 1966, she began a 21-year tenure as Administrative Assistant to the Bell County Judge. Then on January 1, 1987, she took office as County Clerk, where she served until her retirement today. "Vada Sutton is a legend in Bell County and throughout Texas, and deservedly so," said Bell County Judge Jon Burrows. "She had dedicated her life as a public servant to the citizens of Bell County and has set the standard on what public services means. I am joined by the 900 current Bell County Employees and Elected Officials and hundreds of former employees and officials in thanking Vada for her service, her guidance, her wisdom, and her inspiration to us all. From elections, to redistricting, to records management, to historical preservation, the list goes on and on, she has been the stalwart beacon for 52 years keeping Bell County going in the right direction. We wish her the best in her well-deserved retirement." JON H. BURROWS, Bell County Judge

Teresa... Edgar and Dana are buried in the Williams Cemetery, located at Difficult behind the William's store. Melba -------Original Message------- From: teresa whittemore Date: 10/27/05 15:19:28 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSMITH] sutton List, I have a Edgar H Sutton 07 Apr 1889 - 22 Jun 1970 marDana Copas 08 Dec 1890 - 23 Feb 1951 picture of tombstones, but can't remember the name of the cemetery they are in. Can anyone tell me? Thanks, Teresa ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. Already In Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm

Charlie...I noted previously where you stated Vada was ill. Please tell me where she fits in our Smith Co. History.... who parents, etc. Melba -------Original Message------- From: Charles Gregory Date: 10/27/05 15:18:36 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Vada Sutton Retires Update i found this out today here is the actual webpage! http://www.bellcountytx.com/Press%20Release%205.htm Charlie ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/

I will always remember the help she gave me....and she never expected anything in return. I am sure it will be hard for them to replace her in the clerk's office. She had so much knowledge of the county. Vada, if you happen to read this THANK YOU!!!! for everything you have done. If you happen to get bored I have a lot of genealogy things that need done LOL :)) We love you Vada Helen glswings@pacifier.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Gregory" <gregoryc@charter.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:23 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Vada Sutton Retires >I want to add to whats written below Vadda spent months helping > get data online for the website but she took no credit and when > you look around the website remember Vada might have done that! > > Vada if you are still on the list .... > > Good Luck and if you ever get bored > > Just yell i got lots of things to do<g>! > > Charlie > > > > > =============== > > > An era unlikely to ever be repeated ended today, September 30, 2005, with > the retirement of Bell County Clerk Vada Sutton. For over 52 years, Ms. > Sutton reported to work at Bell County. For the past 18 years she has > been County Clerk. > > But her history began in February of 1953, when as an 18 year old graduate > of Salado High School, she started as secretary in the District Attorney's > office. In 1960, she moved on to the County Judge's office where she > stayed for four years before coming the Court Reporter for the District > Court (there was only one then) for two years. In 1966, she began a > 21-year tenure as Administrative Assistant to the Bell County Judge. Then > on January 1, 1987, she took office as County Clerk, where she served > until her retirement today. > > "Vada Sutton is a legend in Bell County and throughout Texas, and > deservedly so," said Bell County Judge Jon Burrows. "She had dedicated > her life as a public servant to the citizens of Bell County and has set > the standard on what public services means. I am joined by the 900 > current Bell County Employees and Elected Officials and hundreds of former > employees and officials in thanking Vada for her service, her guidance, > her wisdom, and her inspiration to us all. From elections, to > redistricting, to records management, to historical preservation, the list > goes on and on, she has been the stalwart beacon for 52 years keeping Bell > County going in the right direction. We wish her the best in her > well-deserved retirement." > > > JON H. BURROWS, Bell County Judge > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >

I know that, I just haven't seen Lucinda before in my tree. Those names can really get messed up. I located my grandfather Ernest Carlisle only by accident in Smith county 1930 census. His last name was garbled beyond recognition, but he was living with his in laws. James Turner Harville and Fannie. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Coleman" <graciepmarvel@bellsouth.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell > Linda, Harville, Harvel, Harvil, was sometimes written as Harwell in some > of the census records. Not sure which census record or which individual. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:36 AM > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell > > >> Pat were you asking me? Because of my Harville line? I'm aware that a >> Harwell family shows up in Smith county. I don't know if she could be >> one of mine or not. I haven't seen her name before. >> Linda Carlisle Lewis >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <GREENWPAT@aol.com> >> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:19 PM >> Subject: [TNSMITH] Harwell >> >> >>>I have a direct ancestor named Lucinda Harwell born 1814 in Smith County, >>> Tennessee. Could she be one of yours? >>> >>> Pat Greenwood >>> I hear ethereal voices, persuasive soft and still, >>> Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? >>> >>> >>> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >>> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >>> Already in Progress! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories >> Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ >> >> > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. > Already In Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > > >

Lori....that could be it (did you find it on website?) It is rather a lengthy article about Issac and his descendants. Melba -------Original Message------- From: Lori Sellers Date: 10/27/05 14:05:48 To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] MIA - Cal's Column Article Melba...is that the Cal's Column article from June 14, 1951 or is there another one? Lori --- Eldon Wilkins <MelEl512@att.net> wrote: > Charlie...my Green family of Cal's Col. written > about 1951-53 is not on your > line....I went through that whole section back and > forth > and then printed all off....just is not there. I am > looking for my > original copy and will type it off and send to > you...it begins with > Isaac Green and his wife, unk Hendrix/Hendricks. > > One of these days we need to talk about Green Hill > where he supposedly is > buried (near P. Shade) and the cave he lived in > during early 1800's there > near Joe and Callie Taylor property. After Callie > died Dr. Hugh Green bought > this property (on my line too) and then it was > inherited by I believe the > attorney son...believe someone told me it can't be > sold but have not full > knowledge of it....have always wondered why this > interesting history has > NEVER appeared anywhere. And Hugh wanted to keep > that history alive....I > have stories about that cave from Callie (she comes > off the Green line also) > > > Am trying to "clean up" Green files and one day will > add to this > site....Charlie are you in need of funding to keep > this site > online???? I will be happy to contribute. > > Melba > (Hear it is getting cold in your neck of the > woods...we had to > turn our refrigeration back on yesterday...high > 80's). > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Charles Gregory > Date: 10/26/05 09:22:52 > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] MIA - Cal's Column Article > > Melba > > i'll file this for a future project and we will talk > off list > about that... > > but i was wondering if we missed a cal's column > article if so > or it appeared in the Macon co Times during Cal's > time we will > add it! > > Charlie > > > Melba Wilkins wrote: > > > > Don't know if you have been to the Carthage > Library and seen > > the loose leaf books I did on Carthage > obits....when/if you do > > let me know what you think...I am still collecting > and a bit behind > > on my computer indexing but although I did it all > I am proud of > > it and I think it is a wonderful genealogical > tool....John Waggoner > > had them for a while and can tell you about them. > I would not > > mind them being put on the website....just not > smart enough to > > figure out how. (Now don't think you have to do > this right away > > either....you have enough on you.) > > > > Melba > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Charles Gregory > > Date: 10/25/05 17:47:38 > > To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [TNSMITH] MIA - Cal's Column Article > > > > by all means if we missed a column i want to add > it > > what year was this....when you find it! > > > > As for Office changes i can fully understand<g> > > > > Thank God for backups!! > > > > > > As we were discussing... Cal gave me this website > idea > > from reading his articles..... so maybe we should > call > > it Charlie's Column > > > > Charlie > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Smith County Cemeteries North and South Of The > Cumberland River > at The Smith County Historical and Genealogical > Society website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_north/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/hg/cems_south/ > > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census > Project. > Already In Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. Already In Progress! http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm

Carol, I believe this is the family I did some research on for a graduate student at MTSU. She was working on a display for the Smith County Museum about "Women at Work " in Smith County, 1880-1930. She contacted me because I had posted a photo of Tennie Wester on the Smith County web pages. I believe her full name was Susan Tennessee "Tennie" Ballard and married Simon Wester. Tennie worked for my great-grandparents as a nanny. I believe she was Harriett's sister. If you think this is your family, I'd be happy to send you what I found. The photo is at www.tngennet.org/smith Velma

hi Peggy, Yes - my father is alive. We celebrated his 95th birthday last Sunday and of course when everybody left, he couldn't remember the occasion, but that's ok, I am just thankful that he's still amongst us. Thanks again for your research and assisting me. You know i have two other siblings and they have children and would you believe, no one is interested in ascertaing our Heritage but me. Again, God Bless you , for you've been a GEM!!

You have to be a good detective and be able to put pieces of different puzzles together to make one good puzzle in this game. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Gregory" <gregoryc@charter.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Census vrs records!!! > yes it is better than a crossword puzzle and more fun ! > And Cal got me going on this genealogy journey many years > ago as well.. > > Melba thanks for the kind words this is our hobby / part time > job and we have come so far haven't we ....<g> > > > Charlie > > > Eldon Wilkins wrote: > >> But isn't it fun??? And exciting when you figure all these people >> out...better than crossword puzzles. Re Cal's (Gregory of Macon Co.) >> Column...I have found his records to be >> factual as far as my Green family. That article >> in the early 50's was the beginning of my diggin' in the census. >> How thankful I have always been for his keeping tract of families >> so we would be able to use it today. >> >> And to Charlie....again I thank you for the service you and others >> are giving us...I have so enjoyed meeting other wonderful >> people who are willing to share and work together as we >> build our families of the past. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks. >> >> Melba Melba >> -------Original Message------- >> From: Mary Miller >> Date: 10/25/05 07:31:32 >> To: TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Census vrs records!!! >> I like to get at least 3 census - say 1850, 1860, 1870 - and then >> compare >> the age for an approximate date and so state it in my records - if I have >> nothing else. >> One census year people were advised before it began to write down all >> the >> people in the household and their proper age in case they were out in the >> field or gone from home on the day the census taker arrived. This was >> because of so many errors in names, dates of birth, and place of birth. >> Often one of the older children would be at home taking care of the >> younger >> children and would get things wrong.......or a new second wife might not >> get >> the ages of all the children from a previous marriage correct. Also - I >> love how people would change their names. For example the father might be >> Peter and the son Peter Isaac.....when the child was young the family >> called >> him Isaac, then when he was grown he might have used his official name of >> Peter or Peter I...it also seems women were very willing to change their >> names when they got married, to use a middle name or just pick a name >> they >> liked better than the one they were given at birth.....that makes >> marriage >> records interesting because it is usually the first time the young woman >> could give her name as SHE wanted to be called and not what her parents >> called her. And again, you have to know that Polly or Molly might have >> been >> a Mary, or that Maggie could have been Margaret, etc. Then you throw in >> some of those horrible names used at one point - think they were Greek >> Goddesses or something...... >> Mary >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Visit Photos Of Cemeteries Of Smith County >> Over 500 + Cemeteries online with pictures and Descriptions >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/cempics.htm >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. >> Already In Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project. > Already In Progress! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm > >

Linda, Harville, Harvel, Harvil, was sometimes written as Harwell in some of the census records. Not sure which census record or which individual. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Harwell > Pat were you asking me? Because of my Harville line? I'm aware that a > Harwell family shows up in Smith county. I don't know if she could be one > of mine or not. I haven't seen her name before. > Linda Carlisle Lewis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GREENWPAT@aol.com> > To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:19 PM > Subject: [TNSMITH] Harwell > > >>I have a direct ancestor named Lucinda Harwell born 1814 in Smith County, >> Tennessee. Could she be one of yours? >> >> Pat Greenwood >> I hear ethereal voices, persuasive soft and still, >> Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? >> >> >> ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== >> Volunteer To Transcribe For The Smith Co Census Project... >> Already in Progress! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/tngen/census.htm >> >> >> > > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore,Links To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > >

Velma: This is wonderful and the picture and story are priceless. I would love a copy of your research if possible. I feel sure that Susan "Tennie" is Harriett Ballard's sister. This has to be the greatest website anywhere. Thank you. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <MyFamilySearch@cs.com> To: <TNSMITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Joe Ballard & Richard Smith > Carol, > I believe this is the family I did some research on for a graduate student > at > MTSU. She was working on a display for the Smith County Museum about > "Women > at Work " in Smith County, 1880-1930. > She contacted me because I had posted a photo of Tennie Wester on the > Smith > County web pages. I believe her full name was Susan Tennessee "Tennie" > Ballard > and married Simon Wester. Tennie worked for my great-grandparents as a > nanny. I believe she was Harriett's sister. If you think this is your > family, I'd > be happy to send you what I found. The photo is at > www.tngennet.org/smith > > Velma > > > ==== TNSMITH Mailing List ==== > Submit Your Family Pictures, Biographies, Histories > Wills, Fokelore, To The Smith Co Web Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsmith/ > >