Thanks Donna - sending private questions. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: massedixs<mailto:massedixs@sbcglobal.net> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] George Smalling/Frances Ballard/Louisa Kemp Melba, Fannie Ballard is my great great grandmother, She died in Sherman Tx Grayson. She left Tennessee after George's death with family and went to TX then later some of the family went Jackson CO. Oklahoma in the Oklahoma Land Rush. Some of the family stayed in Texas. Fannie died in Sherman TX and is buried there I have her death cert. if you would like a copy. Uncle Mitchell Lee (Mitch) Smalling was born in 1868 to Fannie Ballard Smalling and George W Smalling, he died in 1963 in Victory Okla. that is about 4 miles outside of Altus Ok. he married Alma Pearl Holladay and is buried in the Victory Cemetery. Uncle Mitch was the brother of my Elizabeth she married William H. Massey son of George W Massey and Sarah Catherine Burnett Massey. Uncle Mitch was a small man about 5' 7" he had a very long beard, he wore a Military uniform when ever company came WWI but to this day I have never found a record of him serving. He was a very smart man with lots of stories I loved to set and hear him talk, soft voice and he could make you feel like you were there in the story. But as he got older his mind stayed back in the past and later before his death he didn't speak, but he was almost 96 when he died. He and Alma had 8 children. Alma was 16 when they married and Mitchell was 32 she was also born in TN all there children were born in Oklahoma but Bersye she was born in TX and it came up a lot that she was a Texan not a SOONER there children: Era Berniece 1902 Stanton 1905 Bersye Elizabeth 1908 (Uncle Mitch lived with her till his death) Berkie Mae 1909 Bessie G 1912 Cecil Micheal 1818 Jesse Lynn 1821 Carroll 1925 I'm sure he served in WWI because he talked about it but I haven't found the records yet. If you have questions I will be happy to answer them. Hope this helps you, Donna On 3/11/2010 12:35 AM, MELBA WILKINS wrote: > Perhaps the following will help. I would like to add to these families. Fannie Ballard Smalling is the d/o John H. Ballard and Nancy Green. Nancy is on my direct lineage being my 3rd great grand aunt! I know someone lately knew info re Uncle Mitch...want to trace down all info on the ch/of Nancy and John. Thanks Melba > > NOTES from Melba's search - > > !!1838-1880 Smith marriages has a George Smalling to Francis Ballard issued 10 Oct 1864...does not show a return, but we know by the 1880 census that a George Smalling and a Fannie did marry. ? Re later census states Fannie& George had 4 ch however on the 1880 below there is a daughter Nancy b about 1857 - That dau is his child by wife Eliza Kemp. Supposedly a dau Sallie H born before Nancy - She must be md before this 1880 - I do not have that info. (see 1860 info below) > > !1880 SmithCensus Place: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > George SMALLING Self M M W 47 TN (b abt 1832) > > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: VA > > Fannie SMALLING Wife F M W 46 TN (Francis Ballard) > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: TN > > Nancy SMALLING Dau F S W 23 TN (b 1857) > > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Eliza SMALLING Dau F S W 13 TN > > Occ: At School Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Michell SMALLING Son M S W 11 TN > > Occ: At School Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Mary SMALLING Dau F S W 10 TN > > Occ: At School Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Alethia SMALLING Dau F S W 6 TN ("Letha" md Vance Grigg) > > Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Joseph SMALLING Brother M S W 58 TN > > Occ: Fisherman Fa: TN Mo: VA > > - - - > > Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 about Francis Ballard > > Name: Francis Ballard > > Spouse: George Smalling > > Marriage Date: 10 Oct 1864 > > Marriage County: Smith > > Marriage State: Tennessee > > - - - > > !Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 about George Smalding (Smalling) > > Name: George Smalding > > Spouse: Louisa Kemp > > Marriage Date: 17 Apr 1850 > > Marriage County: Smith > > Marriage State: Tennessee > > > - - - > > !1838-1880 Smith marriages has a George Smalling to Francis Ballard issued 10 Oct 1864...does not show a return. However, following the census we find he was with a Fannie!So we know they were married. > > 1860 Melba transcribed off original microfilm > > !!1860 Smith #140 - Is this the same George Smalling that md Louisa Kemp? > > George Smalling 33 > > Eliza 27 (Louisa b 1833) > > Sallie H. 6 > > Nancy 5 > > Geo H. 1 > > all bn Tn; also P. C. Everett? (hard to read) age 29 a machinist; John Bolton 26 a merchant; Jn. Green or Greer age 25 a clerk; and J. Everett a laborer no age. All Dixon Springs Dist. > > !off anc > > 1860 United States Federal Census about George Smalling > > Name: George Smalling > > Age in 1860: 33 > > Birth Year: abt 1827 > > Birthplace: Tennessee > > Home in 1860: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Gender: Male > > Post Office: Dixon Springs > > > Household Members: Name Age > > George Smalling 33 > > Eliza Smalling 27 > > Sallie A Smalling 6 > > Nancy Smalling 5 > > George H Smalling 1 > > P C Enrett 29 - no relation > > John Bolton 26 - no relation > > Jo Greer 25 - no relation > > J Everett 24 - no relation > > > !870 > > 1870 United States Federal Census > about George Smallen (Smalling) > > Name: George Smallen > > Birth Year: abt 1828 > > Age in 1870: 42 > > Birthplace: Tennessee > > Home in 1870: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > Post Office: Carthage > > Household Members: Name Age > > George Smallen 42 (George and Fannie md 10 Oct 1864) > > Fannie Smallen 33 -(Frances "Fannie" Ballard) > > Nancy Smallen 16 b about 1864 > > Eliza Smallen 4 b abt 1866 (md William H. Massey) > > Mitchel Smallen 3 b abt 1867 > > Mary Smallen 1 b abt 1869 > > Nancy Smallen 85 -mother of George and Joseph Nancy ( )Smalling-Born VA > > Joseph Smallen 50 Brother of George bn Tenn > > > NOTE: mother Nancy is not on the 1880 so she died between 1870 and 1880 > > > > !1880 United States Federal Census< > about George Smalling > > Name: George Smalling > > Home in 1880: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Age: 47 > > Estimated birth year: abt 1833 > > Birthplace: Tennessee > > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > > Spouse's name: Fannie > > Father's birthplace: Tennessee > > Mother's birthplace: Virginia > > > Occupation: Farmer > > Marital Status: Married > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > > Household Members: Name Age > > George Smalling 47 HH > > Fannie Smalling 46 wife > > Nancy Smalling 23 dau > > Eliza Smalling 13 dau > > Michell Smalling 11 son > > Mary Smalling 10 dau > > Alethia Smalling 6 dau > > Joseph Smalling 58 brotherb about 1827 - a fisherman! > > The sons George and Joseph are born in Tennessee, their father born in Tenn and their mother born in Virginia re this 1880 census. > > - - - > > !1900 - This family has moved to Grayson County, Texas as did many of the Smith county families about 1880's. > > > 1900 United States Federal Census about Fannie Smalling HH138 with dau Eliza& husband William H. Massey& family > > Name: Fannie Smalling > > Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Grayson, Texas > > Age: 66 > > Birth Date: May 1834 > > Birthplace: Tennesee [Tennessee] > > Race: White > > Gender: Female > > Relationship to Head of House: Mother-in-law > > Father's Birthplace: Virginia > > Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee > > Mother: number of living children: 4 > > (Note of Melba - this would agree with the 4 children we have - for Fanny& George - Eliza, Mitchel, Mary Susan and Alethia "Letha".) > > Marital Status: Widowed > > Residence : Justice Precinct 1 (All Between Cotton Belt Rd.& Sherman Rd.& Pilot Point Rd.), Grayson, Texas > > > > 1900 United States Federal Census HH138 > about Fannie Smalling > > Name: Fannie Smalling > > Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Grayson, Texas > > Age: 66 > > Birth Date: May 1834 > > Birthplace: Tennesee [Tennessee] > > Race: White > > Gender: Female > > Relationship to Head of House: Mother-in-law > > Father's Birthplace: Virginia > > Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee > > Mother: number of living children: 4 > > Mother: How many children: 4 > > Marital Status: Widowed > > > Household Members: Name Age > > William H Massey 39 b Mar 1861 in Tenn f/Va m/N.C. md 18 years 7 ch and 6 living > > Eliza Massey 33 b Feb 1867 (this is Eliza Smalling d/o Fannie& George) md 18 yrs 7/6 > > Willie Massey 16 son b June 1883 b in Tenn > > Hue Massey 13 (Hugh?) son b June 1886 in Tenn > > Robert L Massey 9 son b Sept 1899 in Tenn > > Johnie Massey 7 son b Feb 1893 in Tenn > > C V Massey 4 son b Feb 1896 in Texas > > Herburt Massey 1 son b June 1898 in Texas > > Fannie Smalling 66 (Fannie Ballard who md George Smalling) widowed motherinlaw b May 1834 b Tenn > > has her father b Va and mother in Tn - believe other census has this reversed re mother and father birthplace) > > - - - > > 1900 Grayson Co., Texas > > HH137 is that of Vance Grigg and wife Letha (Alethia "Letha" Smalling d/o Fannie Smalling above and sis to Eliza above.) > > Vance Grigg Aug 1863 age 36 md 10 years 3 ch 3 living he and parents all born N.C. > > Letha wife May 1874 age 26 born Tenn as both parents > > Cecil son Feb 1891 b Tenn f/N.C. mo/ Tenn > > Herman son Jan 1894 age 6 b Texas f/N.C. m/Tn > > Johnie son Feb 1897 age 3 born Texas f/N.C. m/Tn > > > > - - > > !1910 > > not found yet > > !1920 Fannie Ballard Smalling will not be on the 1920 as she died 27 Dec 1915 in Grayson Co., Texas > > - - - > > ! > > !Name: Fannie Smalling Birth: May 1834 - Tennesee Residence: 1900 - Justice Precinct 1, Grayson, Texas Residence: Justice Precinct 1 (All Between Cotton Belt Rd.& Sherman Rd.& Pilot Point Rd.), Grayson, Texas -1900 > > !Texas Death Index, 1903-2000 > > Name: Mrs. George Smalling > > Death Date: 27 Dec 1915 > > Death County: Grayson > > Certificate: 27147 > > - - - > > Her children should be on 1920. > > !1930 ck Grayson Co. to follow children etc. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take - but by the moments that take our breath away. 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If you find other copies be ready to pay big bucks for one. My wife gave me copy two or three years ago. Herald

I too have info as does Mary. Ollie d 15 Oct 1959 probably in Macon Co. Mary, do you show par for Billy Smalling? Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Knight<mailto:maryknight1@earthlink.net> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:43 PM Subject: [TNSMITH] Massey/Smalling/Kemp I have her name as Ollie Mae Grissom b. October 19, 1878 d.? daughter of Americus J. Grissom and Mary Mahala Kemp. Married William Thomas "Billy" Smalling ca 1902. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <redp@comcast.net<mailto:redp@comcast.net>> > Mr. Billy's wife was called "Miss Ollie" I didn't know her name was Alice > H. Patterson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeannie Gregory-Fairchild" <looking4myfamily@insightbb.com<mailto:looking4myfamily@insightbb.com>> > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:28:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Massey researchers > > His parents according to Ancestry are William Thomas (Billy) Smalling and > Alice Mae > This came up when I put the Marriage date in my FTM you gave me. Birth > 08/27/1910 Macon, Tennessee, USA death 01/16/1961, Tennessee > FYI > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Mary Knight > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:17 AM > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnsmith@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Massey researchers > > Jeannie, I have Lillian's husband as Wendell Wesley Smalling married > December 19, 1926, Macon Co. TN. I don't know who Wendell's parents are. > > Mary Knight > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeannie Gregory-Fairchild" <looking4myfamily@insightbb.com<mailto:looking4myfamily@insightbb.com>> > To >> My great Aunt Hester Bell Cassity married a Massey. They had two children >> the boy died and the girl lived She was Lillian Massey and she married a >> Smalling and she had two children Annadean and Ray Kenneth Smalling Ray >> Kenneth Died in 2008 >> Jeannie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gary I would like to see those newsletters. Can you send me your website so I can look at them. Jeannie I am compiling a Cassity etc spelling book to be used as a research tool for anyone., Jeannie -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GJenk32888@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:06 AM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSMITH] Smith County History Book - Copyright Issue Sue and all.... its a copyrighted book and if they were to put it online the pay sites would gobble it up! Charlie *********************************** Charlie & others..... First of all let me stress the fact that I am no expert on copyright law, but I did have this similar problem a few years ago when I was asked to scan the four volumes of The Jenkins Jubilee and add them to my Jenkins web site. For those that don't know..... The Jenkins Jubilee is a four volume compilation of Jenkins Surname information in newsletter format compiled, edited, and printed by Jeanne Robey Felldin. Originally issued quarterly (in 1977), it was switched to an annual format in 1978 with subsequent issues following in 1979 and 1980. Each Volume is over 100 pages!! Mrs. Felldin actually started her own printing company in order to print this and several other family surname newsletters. Realizing the copyright issue was going to be a problem, I tried several ways to determine if Mrs Felldin or family members were still living or if her printing company was still in business --- NO Luck! I then called an actual copyright law attorney and discussed my problem. My interpretation of his answer was.... Since most of the info contained in The Jenkins Jubilee (or The Smith County History Book) is "public domain" information or submitted by volunteers, part of the problem is alleviated! The rest of the problem is in the "presentation" or the "format" of the information provided. So..... if you copy EXACTLY the info and in the same format as the original info, you are in violation of the original copyright, however, while the info may be the same if it is presented in a slightly different format, you are "creating" a different work which deserves its own copyright! Now with that being said, I still agree with Charlie's statement above! In the case of The Jenkins Jubilee, I am not aware of another complete set of these four volumes outside of the Mormon Church Library in Salt Lake City. With 'my copyrighted version' of these four volumes online at my web site, they become fair game for anyone to copy, reprint and possibly sell. Still Diggin.... Gary J PS. My copyright problem was solved anyway because, I received an email from Jeanne Robey Felldin herself giving me permission to "reprint anything I found in The Jenkins Jubilee" WOW!!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Link to an online discussion of the publisher of the book: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=434916 Perhaps this will help. Bob Morton

Thanks, Bob!  I think it's worth following up with Henington, just in case.  For one thing, they may have some additional copies of the original book for those who are interested.   Rosanne --- On Thu, 3/11/10, CTNudists@aol.com <CTNudists@aol.com> wrote: From: CTNudists@aol.com <CTNudists@aol.com> Subject: [TNSMITH] The History of Smith County, Tennessee, Volume 1 To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 11:13 AM Link to an online discussion of the publisher of the book: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=434916 Perhaps this will help. Bob Morton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy, thank you so much. Some of the names/initials I recognize, others not. Faith

Melba, Fannie Ballard is my great great grandmother, She died in Sherman Tx Grayson. She left Tennessee after George's death with family and went to TX then later some of the family went Jackson CO. Oklahoma in the Oklahoma Land Rush. Some of the family stayed in Texas. Fannie died in Sherman TX and is buried there I have her death cert. if you would like a copy. Uncle Mitchell Lee (Mitch) Smalling was born in 1868 to Fannie Ballard Smalling and George W Smalling, he died in 1963 in Victory Okla. that is about 4 miles outside of Altus Ok. he married Alma Pearl Holladay and is buried in the Victory Cemetery. Uncle Mitch was the brother of my Elizabeth she married William H. Massey son of George W Massey and Sarah Catherine Burnett Massey. Uncle Mitch was a small man about 5' 7" he had a very long beard, he wore a Military uniform when ever company came WWI but to this day I have never found a record of him serving. He was a very smart man with lots of stories I loved to set and hear him talk, soft voice and he could make you feel like you were there in the story. But as he got older his mind stayed back in the past and later before his death he didn't speak, but he was almost 96 when he died. He and Alma had 8 children. Alma was 16 when they married and Mitchell was 32 she was also born in TN all there children were born in Oklahoma but Bersye she was born in TX and it came up a lot that she was a Texan not a SOONER there children: Era Berniece 1902 Stanton 1905 Bersye Elizabeth 1908 (Uncle Mitch lived with her till his death) Berkie Mae 1909 Bessie G 1912 Cecil Micheal 1818 Jesse Lynn 1821 Carroll 1925 I'm sure he served in WWI because he talked about it but I haven't found the records yet. If you have questions I will be happy to answer them. Hope this helps you, Donna On 3/11/2010 12:35 AM, MELBA WILKINS wrote: > Perhaps the following will help. I would like to add to these families. Fannie Ballard Smalling is the d/o John H. Ballard and Nancy Green. Nancy is on my direct lineage being my 3rd great grand aunt! I know someone lately knew info re Uncle Mitch...want to trace down all info on the ch/of Nancy and John. Thanks Melba > > NOTES from Melba's search - > > !!1838-1880 Smith marriages has a George Smalling to Francis Ballard issued 10 Oct 1864...does not show a return, but we know by the 1880 census that a George Smalling and a Fannie did marry. ? Re later census states Fannie& George had 4 ch however on the 1880 below there is a daughter Nancy b about 1857 - That dau is his child by wife Eliza Kemp. Supposedly a dau Sallie H born before Nancy - She must be md before this 1880 - I do not have that info. (see 1860 info below) > > !1880 SmithCensus Place: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > George SMALLING Self M M W 47 TN (b abt 1832) > > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: VA > > Fannie SMALLING Wife F M W 46 TN (Francis Ballard) > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: TN > > Nancy SMALLING Dau F S W 23 TN (b 1857) > > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Eliza SMALLING Dau F S W 13 TN > > Occ: At School Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Michell SMALLING Son M S W 11 TN > > Occ: At School Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Mary SMALLING Dau F S W 10 TN > > Occ: At School Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Alethia SMALLING Dau F S W 6 TN ("Letha" md Vance Grigg) > > Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Joseph SMALLING Brother M S W 58 TN > > Occ: Fisherman Fa: TN Mo: VA > > - - - > > Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 about Francis Ballard > > Name: Francis Ballard > > Spouse: George Smalling > > Marriage Date: 10 Oct 1864 > > Marriage County: Smith > > Marriage State: Tennessee > > - - - > > !Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 about George Smalding (Smalling) > > Name: George Smalding > > Spouse: Louisa Kemp > > Marriage Date: 17 Apr 1850 > > Marriage County: Smith > > Marriage State: Tennessee > > > - - - > > !1838-1880 Smith marriages has a George Smalling to Francis Ballard issued 10 Oct 1864...does not show a return. However, following the census we find he was with a Fannie!So we know they were married. > > 1860 Melba transcribed off original microfilm > > !!1860 Smith #140 - Is this the same George Smalling that md Louisa Kemp? > > George Smalling 33 > > Eliza 27 (Louisa b 1833) > > Sallie H. 6 > > Nancy 5 > > Geo H. 1 > > all bn Tn; also P. C. Everett? (hard to read) age 29 a machinist; John Bolton 26 a merchant; Jn. Green or Greer age 25 a clerk; and J. Everett a laborer no age. All Dixon Springs Dist. > > !off anc > > 1860 United States Federal Census about George Smalling > > Name: George Smalling > > Age in 1860: 33 > > Birth Year: abt 1827 > > Birthplace: Tennessee > > Home in 1860: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Gender: Male > > Post Office: Dixon Springs > > > Household Members: Name Age > > George Smalling 33 > > Eliza Smalling 27 > > Sallie A Smalling 6 > > Nancy Smalling 5 > > George H Smalling 1 > > P C Enrett 29 - no relation > > John Bolton 26 - no relation > > Jo Greer 25 - no relation > > J Everett 24 - no relation > > > !870 > > 1870 United States Federal Census > about George Smallen (Smalling) > > Name: George Smallen > > Birth Year: abt 1828 > > Age in 1870: 42 > > Birthplace: Tennessee > > Home in 1870: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > Post Office: Carthage > > Household Members: Name Age > > George Smallen 42 (George and Fannie md 10 Oct 1864) > > Fannie Smallen 33 -(Frances "Fannie" Ballard) > > Nancy Smallen 16 b about 1864 > > Eliza Smallen 4 b abt 1866 (md William H. Massey) > > Mitchel Smallen 3 b abt 1867 > > Mary Smallen 1 b abt 1869 > > Nancy Smallen 85 -mother of George and Joseph Nancy ( )Smalling-Born VA > > Joseph Smallen 50 Brother of George bn Tenn > > > NOTE: mother Nancy is not on the 1880 so she died between 1870 and 1880 > > > > !1880 United States Federal Census< > about George Smalling > > Name: George Smalling > > Home in 1880: District 1, Smith, Tennessee > > Age: 47 > > Estimated birth year: abt 1833 > > Birthplace: Tennessee > > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > > Spouse's name: Fannie > > Father's birthplace: Tennessee > > Mother's birthplace: Virginia > > > Occupation: Farmer > > Marital Status: Married > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > > Household Members: Name Age > > George Smalling 47 HH > > Fannie Smalling 46 wife > > Nancy Smalling 23 dau > > Eliza Smalling 13 dau > > Michell Smalling 11 son > > Mary Smalling 10 dau > > Alethia Smalling 6 dau > > Joseph Smalling 58 brotherb about 1827 - a fisherman! > > The sons George and Joseph are born in Tennessee, their father born in Tenn and their mother born in Virginia re this 1880 census. > > - - - > > !1900 - This family has moved to Grayson County, Texas as did many of the Smith county families about 1880's. > > > 1900 United States Federal Census about Fannie Smalling HH138 with dau Eliza& husband William H. Massey& family > > Name: Fannie Smalling > > Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Grayson, Texas > > Age: 66 > > Birth Date: May 1834 > > Birthplace: Tennesee [Tennessee] > > Race: White > > Gender: Female > > Relationship to Head of House: Mother-in-law > > Father's Birthplace: Virginia > > Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee > > Mother: number of living children: 4 > > (Note of Melba - this would agree with the 4 children we have - for Fanny& George - Eliza, Mitchel, Mary Susan and Alethia "Letha".) > > Marital Status: Widowed > > Residence : Justice Precinct 1 (All Between Cotton Belt Rd.& Sherman Rd.& Pilot Point Rd.), Grayson, Texas > > > > 1900 United States Federal Census HH138 > about Fannie Smalling > > Name: Fannie Smalling > > Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Grayson, Texas > > Age: 66 > > Birth Date: May 1834 > > Birthplace: Tennesee [Tennessee] > > Race: White > > Gender: Female > > Relationship to Head of House: Mother-in-law > > Father's Birthplace: Virginia > > Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee > > Mother: number of living children: 4 > > Mother: How many children: 4 > > Marital Status: Widowed > > > Household Members: Name Age > > William H Massey 39 b Mar 1861 in Tenn f/Va m/N.C. md 18 years 7 ch and 6 living > > Eliza Massey 33 b Feb 1867 (this is Eliza Smalling d/o Fannie& George) md 18 yrs 7/6 > > Willie Massey 16 son b June 1883 b in Tenn > > Hue Massey 13 (Hugh?) son b June 1886 in Tenn > > Robert L Massey 9 son b Sept 1899 in Tenn > > Johnie Massey 7 son b Feb 1893 in Tenn > > C V Massey 4 son b Feb 1896 in Texas > > Herburt Massey 1 son b June 1898 in Texas > > Fannie Smalling 66 (Fannie Ballard who md George Smalling) widowed motherinlaw b May 1834 b Tenn > > has her father b Va and mother in Tn - believe other census has this reversed re mother and father birthplace) > > - - - > > 1900 Grayson Co., Texas > > HH137 is that of Vance Grigg and wife Letha (Alethia "Letha" Smalling d/o Fannie Smalling above and sis to Eliza above.) > > Vance Grigg Aug 1863 age 36 md 10 years 3 ch 3 living he and parents all born N.C. > > Letha wife May 1874 age 26 born Tenn as both parents > > Cecil son Feb 1891 b Tenn f/N.C. mo/ Tenn > > Herman son Jan 1894 age 6 b Texas f/N.C. m/Tn > > Johnie son Feb 1897 age 3 born Texas f/N.C. m/Tn > > > > - - > > !1910 > > not found yet > > !1920 Fannie Ballard Smalling will not be on the 1920 as she died 27 Dec 1915 in Grayson Co., Texas > > - - - > > ! > > !Name: Fannie Smalling Birth: May 1834 - Tennesee Residence: 1900 - Justice Precinct 1, Grayson, Texas Residence: Justice Precinct 1 (All Between Cotton Belt Rd.& Sherman Rd.& Pilot Point Rd.), Grayson, Texas -1900 > > !Texas Death Index, 1903-2000 > > Name: Mrs. George Smalling > > Death Date: 27 Dec 1915 > > Death County: Grayson > > Certificate: 27147 > > - - - > > Her children should be on 1920. > > !1930 ck Grayson Co. to follow children etc. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take - but by the moments that take our breath away. 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Mary, Neither do I live in Tennessee, although I grew up there. I live in Texas now and getting back to Carthage is difficult. I appreciate your willingness to help me out. Maybe there isn't anything else to know about the Nollners, but if something crops up in your research, I'd appreciate it if you'd remember me.

I do understand. Of course, online content, including whole websites can also be copyrighted--though it may be harder to enforce the copyright or deal with infringement. Here's my question: How is it possible for PAY sites simply to "gobble up" the copyrighted work and SELL it to others without lawful acknowledgement and/or payment to the copyright holders? Probably because infringement is permitted with impunity. I suspect just one monumental lawsuit against just one of these sites would change their business model forever. On the other hand, it would probably cost every future subscriber more, and severely limit the amount of information available to researchers like ourselves. The subsequent question then becomes whether we're willing to do the work of compiling a (COPYRIGHTED) "Volume II/Supplement" to be made available in book form (with accompanying CD?) at a "print-on-demand" cost to those who are interested in purchasing. It should be relatively easy to determine a potential cost of such a volume based on the anticipated number of pages as a first "next step." My dear, dear late foster mom used to say: "You never turn down a good thing." My corollary to that is: "You never let evil intimidate good." Personally, my desire in proposing this project is to capture the stories that will be lost forever if we don't take the trouble to collect them now. As a published author, I'm no Pollyanna about the issue of others pirating our information for their own purposes. However, my overriding concern is less about what the unscrupulous may do with our content and more about whether what we propose to do is a "good thing." By compiling a work for print-on-demand publication, we may be able to mitigate the potential pirating issue while minimizing the potential cost to purchasers. May I propose that a committee be formed to look into these issues and the array of possibilities, and then report the findings to the group? Thoughts, anyone? Rosanne (Goad) Vrugtman St. Louis, MO xun at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GJenk32888@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:06 AM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNSMITH] Smith County History Book - Copyright Issue Sue and all.... its a copyrighted book and if they were to put it online the pay sites would gobble it up! Charlie ***********************************

In the Trousdale County cemetery book I found: Nollner, James 26 Aug. 1825 - 17 March 1884 Nollner, Mary E. 18 Oct. 1826- 23 Dec 1913            W/O James   D/O Robert Blackwell and Jane Northington Stone, J.N.    dates not legible Stone, M.F.N.  W/O J.N. Stone D/O James and Mary Nollner dates not legible Stone, Elmer Franklin Infant s/o W.B.    5 Aug. 1890-8 Nov 1891 These are the only names listed in the Nollner cemetery. Hope this helps. Nancy ----- Original Message ---- From: "Kttyldy11@aol.com" <Kttyldy11@aol.com> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 8:56:32 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Blackwell/Nollner Mary, Neither do I live in Tennessee, although I grew up there. I live in  Texas now and getting back to Carthage is difficult. I appreciate your  willingness to help me out. Maybe there isn't anything else to know about the  Nollners, but if something crops up in your research, I'd appreciate it if you'd  remember me. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Mary, for looking. Jack Willoughby Looking for Andrew's family > -----Original Message----- > From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Mary Knight > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:04 AM > To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Re Andrew Willaby/willoughby > > > Sorry Jack but the only Wilaby I have in my database is Elizabeth Wilaby > (probably Willoughby) b. 1822 married John C. Pankey. I have no further > information on her. I checked my Smith County Court records book and found > no Willoughby's of any spelling in that either. The History of Smith Co. > only mentions two Willoughby's that I can find. One in F608 Ocia Millard > Nixon daughter of Finis & Eva Willoughby Nixon of Hickman. F714 Dec. of > John Elmore Smith mentions a John Sam Smith married Flora Willoughby in > 1933. > > Thats all I found. > > Mary > > > Dear Mary Knight: > > > > I have read many of your postings on tnsmith@rootsweb.com and was > > intrigued with the number of names you have in your database. In the > > hopes that you might have some Willoughby names, I am including a > > brief summary of my Willoughby ancestors: > > > > I am researching my GGGrandfather, Andrew Willaby, b. 1812 in NC, died > > bef. > > 1880 in Smith County, TN, married Nancy Everett in 1837. She was b. > > 1814 in NC and d. bef.1880 in Smith Co. They had two children: 1)Mary > > J. > > Willoughby, > > b 1838 in Smith Co, and 2)my GGrandfather, David Curry Willoughby, > > b.1853 in Smith Co and died 1890 in Henderson Co, KY. He m. Margaret > > Lawson Brown in > > 1872 in Henderson Co. She was b. 1855 in Henderson Co. David and > > Margaret lived in KY and had eight children. > > > > Andrew's county of birth and his parents' names are my brickwall. > > > > I have considerably more information on these families but I think > > this is enough to bother you with for now. > > > > Willoughby is found spelled as "Willaby, Willoby, Wilaby, Wiloby and, > > eventually, Willoughby" > > > > I would be most grateful if you would check your databases and see if > > you have any of my Willoughbys. > > > > Thanks very much. > > > > Jack Willoughby > > "jackw@surewest.net" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Would it be possible to post the index of the book? That might make a reprinting and a commitment even more desirable if one could find a family member listed. Ann

If this posts twice I am sorry. Cornelia, I have a Higgins in my husband's line. Josephine Higgins born July 4, 1846 married in Dekalb County, Tn. in 1866 to Christopher Gann. Do you have any information on her? Thanks, Nancy

----- Original Message ----- From: "viona howery" <vhowery@kc.rr.com> > Does any one know if the Patrick Moore Familywas in that Volume? Yes there is a history on Patrick Moore and Elizabeth Mullens. What information do you need from it? Mary

Thanks Jeannie I had Billy Smalling and Ollie Grissom but did not have their son connected. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie Gregory-Fairchild" <looking4myfamily@insightbb.com> > His parents according to Ancestry are William Thomas (Billy) Smalling and > Alice Mae > This came up when I put the Marriage date in my FTM you gave me. Birth > 08/27/1910 Macon, Tennessee, USA death 01/16/1961, Tennessee > FYI >

Faith I guess you know by now that the History is out of print. I don't live in Tennessee so I don't know if there are any of your family members still living there. Will continue to look at these to families and see if I can come up with anything. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kttyldy11@aol.com> To: <tnsmith@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Blackwell/Nollner > Mary, Thanks for your quick reply. I have looked at find a grave and > located some information from census records. The things I hope to find > are, > maybe, family stories, or pictures, or some idea if there are any family > members left there in Tennessee. I lived in Smith County until I was > eighteen, > but at that time, of course, I had no interest in genealogy, nor did my > family. All the family history I got was from my mother's side of the > family in > Trousdale and Sumner County. > > Do you know where it is possible to buy one of the Smith County books that > you mentioned? > > Again, thanks for your answer. > > > Faith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Jack but the only Wilaby I have in my database is Elizabeth Wilaby (probably Willoughby) b. 1822 married John C. Pankey. I have no further information on her. I checked my Smith County Court records book and found no Willoughby's of any spelling in that either. The History of Smith Co. only mentions two Willoughby's that I can find. One in F608 Ocia Millard Nixon daughter of Finis & Eva Willoughby Nixon of Hickman. F714 Dec. of John Elmore Smith mentions a John Sam Smith married Flora Willoughby in 1933. Thats all I found. Mary > Dear Mary Knight: > > I have read many of your postings on tnsmith@rootsweb.com and was > intrigued > with the number of names you have in your database. In the hopes that you > might have some Willoughby names, I am including a brief summary of my > Willoughby ancestors: > > I am researching my GGGrandfather, Andrew Willaby, b. 1812 in NC, died > bef. > 1880 in Smith County, TN, married Nancy Everett in 1837. She was b. 1814 > in > NC and d. bef.1880 in Smith Co. They had two children: 1)Mary J. > Willoughby, > b 1838 in Smith Co, and 2)my GGrandfather, David Curry Willoughby, b.1853 > in > Smith Co and died 1890 in Henderson Co, KY. He m. Margaret Lawson Brown in > 1872 in Henderson Co. She was b. 1855 in Henderson Co. David and Margaret > lived in KY and had eight children. > > Andrew's county of birth and his parents' names are my brickwall. > > I have considerably more information on these families but I think this is > enough to bother you with for now. > > Willoughby is found spelled as "Willaby, Willoby, Wilaby, Wiloby and, > eventually, Willoughby" > > I would be most grateful if you would check your databases and see if you > have any of my Willoughbys. > > Thanks very much. > > Jack Willoughby > "jackw@surewest.net" > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cornelia There is only one Higgins in the index. It is Georgia Higgins married John Spurgeon Jenkins. This is in F615 on a Perkins family history. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <fenenga@connpoint.net> > I wonder if it is possible to check and see if there is the Higgins > family in the book? I will have to buy the book, eventually, but for > the moment my money is tied up in medical bills, so it will have to > wait. > > Cornelia

Mr. Billy's wife was called "Miss Ollie" I didn't know her name was Alice H. Patterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie Gregory-Fairchild" <looking4myfamily@insightbb.com> To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:28:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Massey researchers His parents according to Ancestry are William Thomas (Billy) Smalling and Alice Mae This came up when I put the Marriage date in my FTM you gave me. Birth 08/27/1910 Macon, Tennessee, USA death 01/16/1961, Tennessee FYI -----Original Message----- From: tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnsmith-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Knight Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:17 AM To: tnsmith@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNSMITH] Massey researchers Jeannie, I have Lillian's husband as Wendell Wesley Smalling married December 19, 1926, Macon Co. TN. I don't know who Wendell's parents are. Mary Knight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie Gregory-Fairchild" <looking4myfamily@insightbb.com> To > My great Aunt Hester Bell Cassity married a Massey. They had two children > the boy died and the girl lived She was Lillian Massey and she married a > Smalling and she had two children Annadean and Ray Kenneth Smalling Ray > Kenneth Died in 2008 > Jeannie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNSMITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message