Hello Lists: I am forwarding this latest GENEALOGICAL DNA information for those interested. If anyone has questions concerning this project or would like to participate or sponsor some one in this project please contact Cynthia Wells at ( [email protected] ) I am sure Cynthia will be willing to answer your questions. --Gerald Lay ____________________________________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Ann Wells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: DNA update > Greetings to all! > > A reminder to all that the 2nd International Conference on Genetic > Genealogy will be held this Fri-Sat at the National Geographic Societyâ?Ts > headquarters in DC. I will be in attendance. The major players in genetic > genealogy will be there as participants. If any of you have any questions > that youâ?Td like to see answered please pass them along to me before > Thursday. > > Here are the pedigrees for our newest testers [note that I do not include > information on living descendents out of respect for privacy] > > John C. or Jake > Robert Lay b. 1617 d. 9 Jul 1689 > Robert Lay b. 1653/54 CT d. 1742 > Robert Lay b. 1680/81 CT d. 1738 > Daniel Lay b. 1712 CT d. 1782 > Asa Lay b. 1749 CT d. 1814 > Richard Lay b. 1775 CTd. abt 1830 > Richard Lay b. 1807 CT d. 1885 > Thomas Wolcott Lay b. 1839 Wash. DC d. 1912 > Richard Edward Lay b. 1875 Wash. DC d. 1932 > Edward Wolcott Lay b. 1902 Baltimore MD d. 1977 > John C. â?~Jakeâ?T Lay > > Jake is in batch 123 and isolation began 10/23. The first set of markers > should be back around the first or second week of December. Thanks Jake, > our CT Lay Yippee! > > Todd > David Lay m. Mary Lay 1794 Wilkes Co., TN > Jesse Lay b. 1793/98 NC/TN d. 1881 Union Co., TN > Leonard Lint Lay b. 1851 Union Co., TN d. 1937 > John J. Lay b. 1884 Union Co., TN d. 1951 > Herbert W. Lay b. 1909 Union Co., TN d. 1993 > Ronald Lay b. 1938 d. 2002 > Todd > > Todd â?~s results will be at the lab shortly. > > Walter > William Lay b. 1760/1770 d. before 1850 possibly married to Taliaferro > William Lay b. 1808 TN or VA d. 1881 > Allen Lay b. 1833 TN d. 1890 > Hardin Lay b. 1869 AK d. 1956 > Walter H. Lay > > The following Lay line is from a tester who used Sorenson Molecular for > their test. I share this because Walterâ?Ts gg-grandfather is the same as > this line but the link between lines has never been proven through paper > documentation because Waltâ?Ts ancestors went to Arkansas from TN and the > below line went from TN to AL and then TX. If they match and they get to > share their information, a proven paper trail might finally be found. > Another DNA success story! > > William Lay m. Taliaferro > John Lay b. 1801 TN > Talliaferro Lay b. 1846 AL > Albert Lay b. 1869 TX > Owen Lay b. 1906 TX > living > > The above Lay line also shares a close genetic match with our tester who > descends from Rev. William L. Lay so stay tuned! Also, and correct me if I > am wrong Gloria and Catherine, but the tradition that William Lay married > an unknown Taliaferro woman came from an oral history written down by > Williamâ?Ts grandson. This woman was the daughter of a Taliaferro who lost > his life in the Revolutionary War. It is long thought but never proven > that this Taliaferro line belongs to a Richard Taliaferroâ?Ts widow who is > recorded in the court records of Surry Co., NC as being a Revolutionary > War widow. Surry Co., NC was also the home during this period of time to a > Charles Lay. Some of Richardâ?Ts sons are documented in Roane Co. TN at > the same time as William Lay. A Richard Taliaferro is documented in > Pittsylvania Co. VA prior to the Revolutionary War. A William Lay also > appears on the Pittsylvania Co., VA tax lists for a brief time during the > early 1790â?Ts. A Charles Lay is also on the Pittsylvania Co., VA tax > lists for a brief time prior to 1780. But so far these are just unrelated > facts that do not prove any kind of family relationship. This is just a > reminder that we do have a partial scholarship for an eligible tester who > descends from Charles Lay of Pendleton District, SC. Every Lay that tests > peels one more layer off all these mysteries and unproven family > traditions. > > The lab has not received Gregâ?Ts kit. Are you still with us Greg? :o) > Greg graciously offered to be our important validating tester for Rev. > William L.â?Ts line. > > Max has received all of his markers and wanted me to share that he is > quite pleased with his results. He is pleasantly surprised to find out his > haplogroup is R1b and that even though he has strong British roots he is > more European than he thought! His Lay line is from Pewsey, England, > which is just north of Stonehenge. Eddie and I were able to visit > Stonehenge this past May. Being surrounded by such history was fantastic. > Ok, Iâ?Tm a big kid! > > I also have been following up on the other Sorenson DNA match of John W. > Lay. John W. is a considered a genetic match with a French Canadian > surname LeRoi. I have consulted with Bennett Greenspan, and a few others > who have been involved with genetic DNA for a long time and they are > considered experts in the field. > > Basically we need to wait and see what the results tell us about Walt and > Greg, and their relation to John W. At that point we will be able to see > if the LeRoi/Lay match is one worth investigating or if this is a case of > a random match known as convergence. More on that term later. > > I have also done some initial bare bones research into this surname just > in case This interesting tidbit comes from DeAnna, â?~If the accent is > supposed to be on the "e" in LeRoi, then the French pronunciation would > sound like a long 'a', that's according to my French speaking friend. If > this is the case, and the rolling of R's by the French, I can see the name > being simplified and shortened to Lay.â?T > > Possible upcoming participants are a validating tester for Isaac Lay's > line, and a descendent of John M. Lay. Still looking for a participant > from the PA Lay lines and also the Coastal Carolina Lay's ie, Joseph, > John, and Enos. So stay tuned. And if you happen to be on Hwy. 17A, > between Moncks Corner and Georgetown, SC, youâ?Tll find gas for > $2.21/gallon. Visiting our Coast Guard son and couldnâ?Tt believe our > eyes! Some of you may get it even cheaper but not here in Cabarrus Co., > NC! We also visited the Hunley in Charleston and I was completely > fascinated how they used DNA to identify some of the crew. Another must > see for history lovers. > > Regards to all, > > Cynthia > > >