While doing a bit of research today at the TX State Lib. on my HART family (which I can't find hide nor hair of), I ran across this entry in the 1850 Rutherford Co. census. What caught my eye was so many of the "laborers" listed in this "household" were from Ireland and thought maybe somebody was looking for them! If someone has some history on this time period and why so many would be living in one "household" I'd be very interested in hearing about it. Joyce M. 1850 Rutherford County, Fosterville District, pgs. 131a & b, line no. 1164-1164 Arthur Malley, 27, Ireland Nicholas Munoz (?), 29, Ireland Patrick Frizguad (?), 25, Ireland John Downy, 26, Ireland John Hardy, 28, Ireland Wm. Hart, 24, Ireland John Cannon, 23, Tennessee Wm. Johnson, 23, Tennessee Adam Zumbro (?), 30, Tennessee James Shepherd, 26, Tennessee Timothy Godfrey, 22, Ireland Wm. Fin, 24, Ireland Edwin Fin, 20, Ireland Bradford (or may be Bedford), Davis, 20, Tennessee Wm. R. Davis, 38, Tennessee Wm. Smith, 30, Ireland Thomas, Burns, 42, Ireland James Zlaney (?), 34, Ireland Lawrence Riley, 30, Ireland John Face (?), 26, Ireland James Hope, 21, Ireland Isaac Rivers (?), 21, Tennessee John Romsig (?), 22, AL S. M. Bilt, 37, Tennessee Peter (can’t read), 31, Tennessee Joseph Hays, 26, Tennessee N. G. McDonal, 28, Ireland Patrick Armstrong, 24, Ireland John Armstrong, 12, Tennessee ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >From the Beautiful Texas Hill County ... to the Mountains of Tennessee www.ancestraljournal.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cannon Co. Tn. Cemeteries www.ancestraljournal.com/cannon%20co_cemeteries.htm Rutherford Co, Tn Cemeteries www.ancestraljournal.com/rutherford%20co_cemeteries.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Texas Legacy Journal www.ancestraljournal.com/texas_intro.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ German-Texan Journal www.ancestraljournal.com/german_intro.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Visit www.gencircle.com A great new site! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Joyce - I think it may have been a boarding house. We have a reproduction parchment of "Rules of this Tavern", which states: * 4 pence a night for bed * 6 pence with potluck * 2 pence for housekeeping * No more than five to sleep in one bed * No boots to be worn in bed * No razor grinders or tinkers taken in * No doges allowed in the kitchen *Organ grinders to sleep in the wash house - Lemuel Cox's Inn No date is on the parchment. What is a razor grinder? Tinkers were salesmen, I think. Weren't organ grinders the guys with the little monkeys who danced? We have a daughter in the Bastrop/Smithville area. I think that is part of the Texas hill country also. It is indeed lovely out there. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "historykeeper" <historykeeper@austin.rr.com> To: <TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: [TNRUTHER] Looking for Irish Kin? While doing a bit of research today at the TX State Lib. on my HART family (which I can't find hide nor hair of), I ran across this entry in the 1850 Rutherford Co. census. What caught my eye was so many of the "laborers" listed in this "household" were from Ireland and thought maybe somebody was looking for them! If someone has some history on this time period and why so many would be living in one "household" I'd be very interested in hearing about it. Joyce M. 1850 Rutherford County, Fosterville District, pgs. 131a & b, line no. 1164-1164 Arthur Malley, 27, Ireland Nicholas Munoz (?), 29, Ireland Patrick Frizguad (?), 25, Ireland John Downy, 26, Ireland John Hardy, 28, Ireland Wm. Hart, 24, Ireland John Cannon, 23, Tennessee Wm. Johnson, 23, Tennessee Adam Zumbro (?), 30, Tennessee James Shepherd, 26, Tennessee Timothy Godfrey, 22, Ireland Wm. Fin, 24, Ireland Edwin Fin, 20, Ireland Bradford (or may be Bedford), Davis, 20, Tennessee Wm. R. Davis, 38, Tennessee Wm. Smith, 30, Ireland Thomas, Burns, 42, Ireland James Zlaney (?), 34, Ireland Lawrence Riley, 30, Ireland John Face (?), 26, Ireland James Hope, 21, Ireland Isaac Rivers (?), 21, Tennessee John Romsig (?), 22, AL S. M. Bilt, 37, Tennessee Peter (can't read), 31, Tennessee Joseph Hays, 26, Tennessee N. G. McDonal, 28, Ireland Patrick Armstrong, 24, Ireland John Armstrong, 12, Tennessee ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >From the Beautiful Texas Hill County ... to the Mountains of Tennessee www.ancestraljournal.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cannon Co. Tn. Cemeteries www.ancestraljournal.com/cannon%20co_cemeteries.htm Rutherford Co, Tn Cemeteries www.ancestraljournal.com/rutherford%20co_cemeteries.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Texas Legacy Journal www.ancestraljournal.com/texas_intro.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ German-Texan Journal www.ancestraljournal.com/german_intro.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Visit www.gencircle.com A great new site! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ==== TNRUTHER Mailing List ==== Linebaugh Public Library 105 West Vine Street, Murfreesboro, TN (615) 893-4131

Thanks to all who have given me a little bit more of Tennessee History during the 1850's! Joyce M. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From the Beautiful Texas Hill County ... to the Mountains of Tennessee www.ancestraljournal.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cannon Co. Tn. Cemeteries www.ancestraljournal.com/cannon%20co_cemeteries.htm Rutherford Co, Tn Cemeteries www.ancestraljournal.com/rutherford%20co_cemeteries.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Texas Legacy Journal www.ancestraljournal.com/texas_intro.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ German-Texan Journal www.ancestraljournal.com/german_intro.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Visit www.gencircle.com A great new site! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The razor grinder was like a knife grinder or sharpener - he would grind down the blade of worn razors on a stone, a necessary service of the time. The reason he, tinkers and certain other itinerant workers were not allowed to stay in the tavern was not because of what they did, but the fact that they were often Gypsies, a feared and hated minority about whom many rumors existed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

I believe the great Potato famine in Ireland was around (or shortly before) 1850. This could explain a lot of Irish emigration. Why they were clustered together in one area like that is odd - perhaps they had been recruited and brought there for a major project of some sort like laying railroad tracks,working in a local mine, harvest time, etc? I was struck by the fact that there was a James Hope in the Irish group. My Scots-Irish Hopes had been in America since the early 1700s - at least - and one of them was married in Rutherford Co. in 1832, but I can't imagine that he had any contact with relatives in Ireland after all that time (over a 100 years). Interesting... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/