In a message dated 6/7/01 5:01:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TNRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > X-Message: #7 > Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:20:22 EDT > From: ELI6223@aol.com > To: TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <b0.15a5d948.28515826@aol.com> > Subject: [TNRUTHER] Brown's > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi, > I have seen lots of references to Brown's in Rutherford Co. Can anyone > tell > me when they came to Rutherford Co., and from where- county or city > specific > if possible. I have elusive Brown's - one that enlisted in the Rev from > Pitt > Co. NC. I'm starting to spread out looking for other branches that may > connect. They are supposed to be English, with either my Rev War's > "parents > and grandparents or grandparents and their parents coming from England in > the > first settling of the colonies". > Thanks! > Teri > Have researched one Brown line that came out of SC into Rutherford Co ca 1819. Must tell you I've been working on them for years and found there were at least 2 other Brown lines in this county early....and later, even more. Difficult to research unless you have an unusual Brown first name, or other clues. Joyce, Burleson, Tx

We are way off the purpose of this list and for that I apologize, but if you want to keep taxes under control, you have to start by foregoing your own pet project. You cannot expect others to fund what you want unless you agree to their desires. And that is how we got to the point that the people in Washington and Nashville, etc. look upon us as an unending source of money for purposes such as investigating bovine flatulence, rewarding campaign contributors, vacations at taxpayer expense............ Carolyn In a message dated 6/7/01 10:39:30 PM, JohnstonGT350@aol.com writes: << It would be better to protest taxes that are truley wastful and not the few grave sites in existence. The grave sites are not even a drop in the bucket of wasteful and outrageous excessive taxation elsewhere. Tommy Gunn ==== TNRUTHER Mailing List ==== IF you would like to announce your Rutherford County, TN family reunion here, send Teresa an email at CheasaG@cs.com and put REUNION in the subject line.

It would be better to protest taxes that are truley wastful and not the few grave sites in existence. The grave sites are not even a drop in the bucket of wasteful and outrageous excessive taxation elsewhere. Tommy Gunn

Teri, I wish I could help, but I' haven't scratched the surface on the Brown line. As I recall, I have 2 different Browns merging into my line, but I'm too new at the genealogy game to have explored all the surnames to any great extent. I can tell you that Goodspeed's 1887 History of Coffee County lists among the counties early settlers one Joseph Brown, a merchant in business prior to 1840. An even earlier settler, James M. Brown was in neighboring Cannon County, possibly as early as 1809. James was the Cannon County court clerk 1839-1840. II recently submitted lists of all the Coffee and Cannon county Brown families that existed in 1850 and 1860 because there are SO many Browns out there. I believe the list is posted on USgenweb.com. Sorry I can't be of more assistance. Jim

Hi, I have seen lots of references to Brown's in Rutherford Co. Can anyone tell me when they came to Rutherford Co., and from where- county or city specific if possible. I have elusive Brown's - one that enlisted in the Rev from Pitt Co. NC. I'm starting to spread out looking for other branches that may connect. They are supposed to be English, with either my Rev War's "parents and grandparents or grandparents and their parents coming from England in the first settling of the colonies". Thanks! Teri

:-) Must be Joyce Martin in Tx...If I had your e-mail address, I've misplaced it. Fifthavegnu@aol.com.

To Joyce, You must be a "cousin" If you're related to so many families in Rutherford County:-) Some of mine span over 150 years there! How many hits do you score out of the following surnames? Brown,Burks,Carnahan,Daniel,George,Grigg,Haithcock,Haley,Hall,Hilley,Hodge,Hoo ver,Hulett,Jacobs,Jernigan,Kelton,Lowe,McCullough,Moon,Myers.Parker,Phillips,P itts,Plummer,Prater,Reed,Resner,Rooney,Simmons,Smotherman,Stallings,Tolbert,Tr ail,Young, Youree? Forget Smotherman...everyone is related to a Smotherman:-) Jim in TX

Dear Jim, from the list of names you sent, I saw two that could be a possibility, but I'm not too sure since the names (in my family) originated out of Cannon (but you never know where they were before or after I found them!) I have a Geo. W. Harrell (bro. to my gg grandfather) that married Tennessee Daniel Feb. of 1889 in Cannon Co. They later moved to Falls County, Tx with want seems like a whole slew of other Cannon county families. If you have something on her... that would be great! YOUNG: Roxanne Young is my ggg grandmother. She married James Thomas Bell in Cannon Co. in 1858. I don't know who her parents are (haven't gotten into that line of the family yet.) Joyce in Texas too! Tennessee, Texas and German Ancestry Please come by and visit! www.ancestraljournal.com

In a message dated 6/6/01 6:39:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TNRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > X-Message: #4 > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:51:24 EDT > From: Twerp1962@aol.com > To: TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <f9.b05782d.284fc79c@aol.com> > Subject: [TNRUTHER] Lookups in Rutherford County > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hello, > > I am an out-of-stater and was wondering if anyone knows of someone in the > Rutherford County area that will perform lookups? I expect to pay a fee. > I'm not asking for a freebie. > > I noted on the Rutherford County Web Page there is a Deed Index, however > the > kind individuals who are posting that info, haven't made it to the letters > that I need yet. :) > > If someone knows of someone, please let me know. > > Thank you > > ______________________________ > > Why don't you order the deed indexes for Rutherford Co? Very inexpensive. Just go to your nearest Latter Day Saints that has attached, a Family History Center. Probably could rent the grantor and grantee microfilm rolls for about $3.25 each for the years you are seeking. Each should cover 50 years or more and provide you with all the deeds yours every made when buying property and when selling it. The INDEX will give the exact names of each grantee or grantor, the date each deed recorded, what kind of deed (and sometimes how many acres and what district) and the volume and page where the entire original deed is recorded (vlume and page). The volunteer at LDS will help you look up the appropriate order number for these deed indexes. If you find some on the index that is of interest, you can then turn around and order the microfilm which has that particular deed on it. You can copy from microfilm to paper and the results are excellent, as a rule. You can do the same with marriages, etc. My family came to Rutherford Co in 1808 and remained there thru about 3 generations during which time they intermarried with others. I am doing a book on all of these and needed to see original old courthouse volumes OFTEN. So I began ordering (renting) the exactly duplicates of those old volumes, microfilmed page by page by LDS...and placing same on indefinite loan, at an LDS FHC near my home. Cost me $3.25 per roll (per old courthouse volume)...and I've been doing this for past 6 years. Now have about 2/3rd of the Rutherford Co, Tn courthouse for years 1808-1890 near my home in Texas. But, only worth that to me because I am related to so many families from that county, and researching them in one place for nearly 100 years. If your family only stayed there a brief time, then it probably wont be worth it to you. There are LDS Family History centers in almost every town in the U. S. Good luck. Joyce

Please go to this new site, for laws affecting cemeteries in the State of Tennessee. I would have copied them but appears someone pasted a page from a law book on to this site which doesn't lend itself to "copy/paste". Joyce COPIES OF THE TENNESSEE CODE ANNOTATED AFFORDING PROTECTION TO CEMETERIES. Gives all the code numbers and a full description of each code + penalties. Hope this is helpful to the current discussion. However, it doesn't have anything about 'cleaning up' a cemetery. ttp://www.geocities.com/davidson_co_cemeteries/tn_state_law.htm

In a message dated 6/6/01 8:09:33 AM Central Daylight Time, apartee3@hotmail.com writes: > > tennessee law requires the landowner to allow visits to family cemeteries > > > Yes, I realize that Tennessee State law requires this. However, with this certain person I would have to have a sheriff with me everytime. And he would still cause a scene. And the cemetery is about a mile off the road and I would have to carry everything since it is pure brambles the whole way. So I haven't made the effort in a long time. I am also scared of Mari's snakes <g> and admit they keep me home as well. Not to mention I still live two hours away. I know excuses, excuses. :) Teresa Ghee Elliott TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com List Owner

Most of the private cemeteries in Rutherford/Cannon Counties do not sell plots, you merely are allowed to have one as a family member. You do have to pay for the opening of the grave.

Hello, I am an out-of-stater and was wondering if anyone knows of someone in the Rutherford County area that will perform lookups? I expect to pay a fee. I'm not asking for a freebie. I noted on the Rutherford County Web Page there is a Deed Index, however the kind individuals who are posting that info, haven't made it to the letters that I need yet. :) If someone knows of someone, please let me know. Thank you

Looking for information on Eli L. Barrett Jr. who married Cora Elizabeth Manus. The 1920 Rutherford census lists their children Hinus, Susie, Paul, John, and Hester. My husband is descended from Hester who married Lyman Douglas Davis. Eli and Cora also had a daughter named Willie Carlene Barrett who was born in 1922 and died on February 22, 2000. Eli, Cora, and Willie are all buried at the Manus Cemetary in Cannon Co. If anybody has any information on these people above, please reply!! Thank you. R. Estes

Private cemeteries are required to have a "perpetual care trust fund" into which a portion of money must go when plots are sold. this fund is then used to maintain the cemetery, allegedly, "in perpetuity." Perhaps a "Rutherford County Family Cemetery Perpetual Care Trust" could be set up to receive monetary contributions for investment with the income going to supply equipment and heavy or skilled labor needed to maintain. The trustees could keep a list of covered family cemeteries. They could coordinate care, whether the labor comes by volunteers or by hiring. THe trustees could have annual Clean-up Days two or three times a year, have fund raisers, and involve not only the descendants, but also the Scouts, the local historians and genealogists, etc. Get some media when you do it to bring out the volunteers and the contributions. file public annual reports and audits so that everyone knows where the money went to promote public confidence. Tennessee law requires that landowners not destroy these cemeteries and that they allow family to enter. Perhaps it would also include clean-up, especially if a family member went along. Albert Lytle Partee >From: Sjkiser@aol.com >Reply-To: TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com >To: TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TNRUTHER] Cemetaries >Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:21:06 EDT > >The best ending to this situation boils down to the fact that it is going >to >take a concerned group of citizens to make a commitment to cleaning up this >cemetary. If I lived in the area, I would volunteer. My husband and I are >boy scout leaders and for an Eagle Project we have taken on the task of >cleaning up an old country cemetary where we live. It's not going to be a >pretty task because the grass is grown up 2-3 feet high around the graves. >But I think we, as activists for preserving history, all agree that this is >important in doing just that. > >Taxing for this should not be an option. In my opinion, if people are >concerned enough to bring this situation into light, then they need to put >together a group to take care of it. > > >Sherry > >Searching in Rutherford County for: Miller, Spain, Poff > > >==== TNRUTHER Mailing List ==== >Welcome to TNRUTHER-L: This is the official Rootsweb mailing list for >Rutherford County, TN. Anyone is welcome to post queries, and questions >about Rutherford County, TN Genealogy. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

tennessee law requires the landowner to allow visits to family cemeteries >From: CheasaG@cs.com >Reply-To: TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com >To: TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TNRUTHER] cemeteries >Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:02:20 EDT > >In a message dated 6/4/01 11:33:01 AM Central Daylight Time, >ktkelly@nightowl.net writes: > > > > Hi Kathy,I,too,think that the taxes are excessive. Do you > > have a plan,to take care of the rural cemeteries? A small county tax,to >have > > someone periodically mow these graveyards,would not be too much. >Rutherford > > Co is part of the Nashville boom area. > > If nothing is done,then these cemeteries will be destroyed. > > There has not been much discussion on this list,about this. I am > > curious,about that. Kevin Kelly,St Louis > > > >Well, if you cleaned one in St. Louis, and I cleaned one in Huntsville, and >... then none would be ignored. But I realize that is wishful thinking. >Actually I have one family one that I would clean if the landowners would >let >me get too it. >Teresa Ghee Elliott >TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com List Owner > > >==== TNRUTHER Mailing List ==== >Welcome to TNRUTHER-L >To unsubscribe send a message to TNRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com >and put unsubscribe in the subject line. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I just wanted to pass along my two cents on the 1880 census cd's that the Latter Day Saints have done. They're wonderful and worth every dollar and believe it or not... I got them within two weeks of ordering them. Just thought I'd pass on the info. as I know we're all always trying to find new and time saving ways of finding our family. Joyce Martin Tennessee, Texas and German Ancestry Please come by and visit! www.ancestraljournal.com

Thank you...well said May your blessings outnumber the shamrocks that grow ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sjkiser@aol.com> To: <TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: [TNRUTHER] Cemetaries > The best ending to this situation boils down to the fact that it is going to > take a concerned group of citizens to make a commitment to cleaning up this > cemetary. If I lived in the area, I would volunteer. My husband and I are > boy scout leaders and for an Eagle Project we have taken on the task of > cleaning up an old country cemetary where we live. It's not going to be a > pretty task because the grass is grown up 2-3 feet high around the graves. > But I think we, as activists for preserving history, all agree that this is > important in doing just that. > > Taxing for this should not be an option. In my opinion, if people are > concerned enough to bring this situation into light, then they need to put > together a group to take care of it. > > > Sherry > > Searching in Rutherford County for: Miller, Spain, Poff > > > ==== TNRUTHER Mailing List ==== > Welcome to TNRUTHER-L: This is the official Rootsweb mailing list for Rutherford County, TN. Anyone is welcome to post queries, and questions about Rutherford County, TN Genealogy. >

What a wonderful idea! They earn patches and badges for community service projects. May your blessings outnumber the shamrocks that grow ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cjojo49@aol.com> To: <TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [TNRUTHER] cemeteries > That is an idea, of course lots of boys in Boy Scouts do use that as an Eagle > Project but it is usually done in the County they live in. My son who was > killed last summer is buried at Thyatira in Cannon County, and they have a > trust that is supported by certificates that draw interest. Then the 2nd > Sunday of June they have decoration day and take up a donation. Of course > the land was donated many years ago and most people take care of their own > families graves(we do), so the mowing is what is left. This is also where my > paternal grandparents and great grandparents are buried, along with many, > many other family members. > > > ==== TNRUTHER Mailing List ==== > Smyrna Public Library > 400 Enon Springs Road West, Smyrna, TN 37167 > (615) 459-4884 >

The best ending to this situation boils down to the fact that it is going to take a concerned group of citizens to make a commitment to cleaning up this cemetary. If I lived in the area, I would volunteer. My husband and I are boy scout leaders and for an Eagle Project we have taken on the task of cleaning up an old country cemetary where we live. It's not going to be a pretty task because the grass is grown up 2-3 feet high around the graves. But I think we, as activists for preserving history, all agree that this is important in doing just that. Taxing for this should not be an option. In my opinion, if people are concerned enough to bring this situation into light, then they need to put together a group to take care of it. Sherry Searching in Rutherford County for: Miller, Spain, Poff