ATT.: EWADE Chester King Wade b 1892 GA > Jasper Carolina Wade b 1866 GA > David Caleb Wade b 1812 SC > Robert Henley Court Wade b abt 1770 Maryland > John Court Wade b abt 1733 Maryland > Zacheriah Wade b abt 1699 Maryland ... Nova Wade
I am looking for the parents and the Native American ancestry of James JACQUES and wife Rebecca MATHIS who appears on the 1850 Roane Co census. On this census (p.833) he is shown as JAGARSH, Jos. 24, Rebecca 22, Emily J. 1. James married Rebecca MATHIS in 1848 in Roane Co TN. On other documents he has appeared with the surnames JAQUES/JAGARSH/JAQUISH/JAGNISH/JAQUESS. On the 1880 Jackson Co AL census James is shown as JAQUESS and it indicates he was born in TN and his mother (name unknown) was born in TN. James appears on the 1900 Cullman Co AL census (p.38A) with his wife of 3 years Mary HALE. He is shown as 73 and born in April 1827 TN. The spelling on James' last name is JAQUISH. A candidate for James's father is Isaac JAQUISH who appears on the 1840 Polk Co TN census 221001-002001. On the 1850 census Isaac is listed on p.788 with the last name JAGNISH. On the 1830 census Isaac along with his brothers John Jr and Gabriel, and their father John Sr. separately appear. On this census John Sr. (age 70-80) is shown with two males under age 5 and one male 15-20. Is James one of these males under age 5? Is James the son of Isaac JAQUISH/JAGNISH? It is clear from family records and from photographs that James was Native American. What are his Native American roots? Cherokee? What Native American groups were in Roane Co TN in the 1820-1850 period? Was Rebecca MATHIS (the wife of James JACQUES) also Native American? Any help would be very appreciated. Eldon mailto:ewade@cfl.rr.com List admin. for SC Old 96 Researching: WADE, HAMES
thank you so much and I don't expect to find much on my relatives they were poor people who just got by and they are very elusive. Thank you for doing this and I know what you mean I have purchased several books from Claiborne Co Tenn. only to be disappointed in not finding my family in there. They moved from Roane to Claiborne and then back to Roane. I knew that you would be swamped with request and I bet you wished you had not of offered. Well Happy Holidays to you and your family. Cheryl Have a great day!- ----- Original Message ----- From: "~Joyce ~" <joyter@c2i2.com> To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [TNROANE] LOOK-UPS.......... > I've received numerous requests for look-ups and am filling them in > sequence as they come in.... > BUT... I need to tell you ....These people (especially Wells) only wrote > about the "rich & famous" > Goodspeed has a few more bits of info, but people like my family who were > just "everyday" > farmers and preachers are not included.....so please don't do as I did > years ago and go rushing out and buying > these books...There is soooooooooo little about any one person that they > are not worth the money........... > > Just wanted to clear that up and I'll continue to send out the look-ups as > I get them done.... > > Joyce Clark Foster > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > J. Daniel, List administrator > Any problems please contact me at jad@sbcglobal.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm > >
I've received numerous requests for look-ups and am filling them in sequence as they come in.... BUT... I need to tell you ....These people (especially Wells) only wrote about the "rich & famous" Goodspeed has a few more bits of info, but people like my family who were just "everyday" farmers and preachers are not included.....so please don't do as I did years ago and go rushing out and buying these books...There is soooooooooo little about any one person that they are not worth the money........... Just wanted to clear that up and I'll continue to send out the look-ups as I get them done.... Joyce Clark Foster
Hi Joyce, I am researching the Doughty, Tauscher, Kries families in Roane County TN. Anything you might have would be much appreciated. Thank you for your help! -----Original Message----- From: ~Joyce ~ [mailto:joyter@c2i2.com] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:43 PM To: TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNROANE] Re: History of Roane County, by Emma Wells 1927 I have a copy of this book as well as a copy of Goodspeed's History of 30 East Tennessee Counties and the First Families of Tennessee....also The Pope Family Book................... I'd be more than willing to do some "look-ups" if anyone wants to post me privately.... <joyter@c2i2.com> Joyce Clark Foster ***************************************************** At 06:20 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: >How do you go about ordering this book? My family helped settle Roane Co and >I still have many family members living there in Oliver Springs. >Thanks, Cindy Hedgepath > > > > > > > > > >==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== >Please do not post virus warnings to this list! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CHEROKEE BY BIRTH, SOUTHERN BY GRACE OF YOWAH! My heart belongs in Dixie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Indian blood is like gold... No matter how thinly it is spun, It still shines just as brightly. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sharing is contagious. Unless you tell me otherwise, sharing with me is assumed as permission to share with others. Do not assume all information to be true and correct. ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe" in the subject line to TNROANE-L-request@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Crossville Chronicle obit... Herbert L. Godsey May 23, 1941 - Nov. 18, 2002 Herbert Lee Godsey, 61, of Crossville, passed away Nov. 18, 2002. Funeral services were conducted Nov. 21 from the chapel of Crossville Memorial Funeral Home, with Pastor Tony Grayson officiating. Burial was in Haley's Grove Cemetery, next to Mr. Godsey's son, Elvin Bradley Godsey. The Veterans Honor Guard acted as pallbearers, played "Taps" and gave a 21-gun salute. Mr. Godsey was born May 23, 1941, in Somerset, KY, the son of Oliver Bradley and Nellie Godby Godsey. He was a retired truck driver, and a U.S. Army and U.S. Navy veteran of the Korean War. He was a member of Chestnut Hill Baptist Church. Survivors include his wife of 38 years, Opal Jane Amonett Godsey of Crossville; children, Garland Lee Godsey, Betty Lou Godsey, Nellie Melina Ray, Nina Doneita Hyder and Scotty Keith Godsey, all of Crossville, Michael Godsey and Harold Godsey, both of Oakdale, TN, and Cindy Kay Lawrence of Tulip, AR; brothers, Albert Godsey, Charles Godsey, J.C. Godsey and Elvin Godsey, all of Oakdale; two sons-in-law; one daughter-in-law; 20 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. In addition to his parents, he was preceded in death by his son, Elvin Bradley Godsey; brothers, Clyde Godsey, James Godsey, Arthur Godsey and Bill Godsey; and sister, Betty Lou Godsey. Mr. Godsey's grandsons served as honorary pallbearers. Crossville Memorial Funeral Home & Crematory Inc. was in charge of the arrangements.
Sorry to post this to the list, but I need to contact Darleen Trent. The email I had for her bounced. Can she or someone help me? Peggy C Fuller Keen President Buchanan County Historical Society http://www.bcplnet.org/ Old Bones Website http://www.geocities.com\Heartland\Valley\5049 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/02
Sorry for posting to the entire list. I have been doing this long enough that should not happen. What a Stupid I am. Regards, Robert Cowan
Cindy, The book was sold before I got your e-mail. A gentleman named Ray Green got it but he said he was going to use it for a little while and then offer it for sale later. His e-mail address is ray@so-ky.com Contact him and tell him you want it next. Thanks, Bob
There is an effort to extend copyright protection beyond the current 70 years and increase it another 20 years. Guess who is behind this? The Walt Disney company because guess who turns 70 real soon. Its all about money and making sure that nothing becomes part of the public domain. The copyright laws on printed matter used to be 35 years. That seemed long enough but Congress doubled it to 70 a few years ago. That sure seems long enough doesn't it? So now you can only copy books published prior to 1932. Regards, Robert Cowan
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Well said. For more information regarding Copyrights, history, etc. the Library of Congress's web site http://www.loc.gov/ Has excellent information. The copyright laws changed a few years ago. Some things like official public records, census, land records, registered wills, books written before a certain date, etc. are public domain and therefore are not under the copyright law. You can include it in your research and you should document it in your files. How you use the information in your own words in your research is your material and can be copyrighted. Material on a web site is like a book because the person who set it is uses his or her personal talents to design it, and is under his or her copyright. The contents should reflect the work of the designer or have permission from the "author" of the material to present it on the site. Errors of various kinds occur in all information such as census, public records, books, etc. because handwriting often is hard to read. Styles change over time and penmanship varies from time to time even within an individuals lifetime. Some times people change the spelling of their name. And sometimes other people change it for you. My name spelling is common in East Tennessee, however else where in this great country it is not very common and is spelled many ways. The most common misspelling is Lester or Leona. And with a middle name of Mac that comes back Mae, I understand how record errors can occur and reoccur with out being corrected even with spell check. Leota ----- Original Message ----- From: "P McDonald" <mmcdonald3@houston.rr.com> To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: [TNROANE] More on Publications While on this general subject, I would like to address a sore subjct. If you find a web site, message board, book, or other publication, or receive an E-mail from someone with family information in it, there is an implied copyright on that material. If you want to copy parts of the data into your database, it would be common courtesy to contact the author for permission, and to definitely show your source in anything you pass along. I have found Notes copied word for word from my web site plastered all over Rootsweb trees and other web sites, and I feel sure they have been submitted to World Family Tree CDs for commercial use. I have seen Notes that have included contents of E-mails that I am pretty sure came from Marj Watts, a professional researcher, for instance. Many, many sites have blurbs that I feel sure came from the Roane Heritage site, with no credits. It is true that noone has ownership of ancestors, or a list of ancestors. But some people have put a lot of time and effort into abstracting court records, interviewing elderly people, ferreting out Bible records and photographs, and then compiling the information into concise form. And we are are most grateful for that work. Most of these people are happy to share with individuals who just want to more about their family. But copying and posting such compiled data to a book or web site, for instance, is plagariasm. Rootsweb has rules about not using something one doesn't own, and the National Genelogical Society has Guidelines treating this subject that we all should review from time to time. Every How-to genealogy instruction I've ever seen emphasises the need for recording Source. On top of everything else, sometimes people blindly copy information that is wrong--perpetuating old "myths." That does not help anyone, although it might give bragging rights to those who want to say they have X thousand names in their file. Bottom line: If you didn't write it, it ain't yours! And besides, you lose credibility when others find out where you got it and didn't bother to check further. Pat McDonald ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== Please do not post virus warnings to this list! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Would you please look up Armes/Arms, Bletcher Armes/Arms, William King Brewer, John Brewer, W Thank you ~Joyce ~ wrote: > I have a copy of this book as well as a copy of Goodspeed's History of 30 > East Tennessee Counties > and the First Families of Tennessee....also The Pope Family > Book................... > I'd be more than willing to do some "look-ups" if anyone wants to post me > privately.... > <joyter@c2i2.com> > > Joyce Clark Foster > > ***************************************************** > > At 06:20 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >How do you go about ordering this book? My family helped settle Roane Co and > >I still have many family members living there in Oliver Springs. > >Thanks, Cindy Hedgepath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > >Please do not post virus warnings to this list! > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > CHEROKEE BY BIRTH, SOUTHERN BY GRACE OF YOWAH! > My heart belongs in Dixie > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Indian blood is like gold... > No matter how thinly it is spun, > It still shines just as brightly. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Sharing is contagious. Unless you tell me otherwise, sharing with me is > assumed as permission to share with others. Do not assume all information > to be true and correct. > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe" in the subject line to TNROANE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
I have a copy of this book as well as a copy of Goodspeed's History of 30 East Tennessee Counties and the First Families of Tennessee....also The Pope Family Book................... I'd be more than willing to do some "look-ups" if anyone wants to post me privately.... <joyter@c2i2.com> Joyce Clark Foster ***************************************************** At 06:20 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: >How do you go about ordering this book? My family helped settle Roane Co and >I still have many family members living there in Oliver Springs. >Thanks, Cindy Hedgepath > > > > > > > > > >==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== >Please do not post virus warnings to this list! > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CHEROKEE BY BIRTH, SOUTHERN BY GRACE OF YOWAH! My heart belongs in Dixie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Indian blood is like gold... No matter how thinly it is spun, It still shines just as brightly. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sharing is contagious. Unless you tell me otherwise, sharing with me is assumed as permission to share with others. Do not assume all information to be true and correct.
I cannot get to the website for the book I keep getting an error Have a great day!- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel & Alexis Scholz" <alexisjoelscholz@attbi.com> To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [TNROANE] History of Roane County, by Emma Wells 1927 > The original of this book was indeed out of print for a long time, because I > tried to find it. > > However, Heritage books.com released it again the past couple of years and > you can now get a copy there. > > "History of Roane County, Tennessee, 1801-1870" > Code: W145 > Price: $30.00 > > > "Emma Middleton Wells. This book is divided into five parts. Part I, > 'Kingston and the County,' contains tax lists from 1802 and 1808, the first > licensed merchants and hotels, a list of voters and summons for jury in > 1809, members of militia companies in 1855, and justices in 1819. Part II, > 'Military Record,' lists Revolutionary soldiers and graves, Soldiers of the > War of 1812, Mexican War, War between the States, World War Records, Gold > Star list and Distinguished Service Crosses. Part III, 'Churches, Academy > and Lodge,' describes Bethel Church, Rittenhouse Academy, Kingston Grave > Yard and the Masonic Lodge. Part IV contains marriage records. Part V, > 'Records of Early Families,' comprises nearly two-thirds of the book. (1927) > reprint, c335 pp., new surname index, paper" > > Their website: > http://www.heritagebooks.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Pro > duct_Code=W145 > > Sincerely, > > Alexis Hacker Scholz > > Researching Hacker, Mayton, Alexander, Delaney, Taylor: > East Tenessee Footsteps at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tnfootsteps/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Danny Hedgepath" <dhedgepath@sc.rr.com> > To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 3:20 AM > Subject: Re: [TNROANE] History of Roane County, by Emma Wells 1927 > > > > > > > > How do you go about ordering this book? My family helped settle Roane Co > and > > I still have many family members living there in Oliver Springs. > > Thanks, Cindy Hedgepath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > > Please do not post virus warnings to this list! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings to this list! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >
While on this general subject, I would like to address a sore subjct. If you find a web site, message board, book, or other publication, or receive an E-mail from someone with family information in it, there is an implied copyright on that material. If you want to copy parts of the data into your database, it would be common courtesy to contact the author for permission, and to definitely show your source in anything you pass along. I have found Notes copied word for word from my web site plastered all over Rootsweb trees and other web sites, and I feel sure they have been submitted to World Family Tree CDs for commercial use. I have seen Notes that have included contents of E-mails that I am pretty sure came from Marj Watts, a professional researcher, for instance. Many, many sites have blurbs that I feel sure came from the Roane Heritage site, with no credits. It is true that noone has ownership of ancestors, or a list of ancestors. But some people have put a lot of time and effort into abstracting court records, interviewing elderly people, ferreting out Bible records and photographs, and then compiling the information into concise form. And we are are most grateful for that work. Most of these people are happy to share with individuals who just want to more about their family. But copying and posting such compiled data to a book or web site, for instance, is plagariasm. Rootsweb has rules about not using something one doesn't own, and the National Genelogical Society has Guidelines treating this subject that we all should review from time to time. Every How-to genealogy instruction I've ever seen emphasises the need for recording Source. On top of everything else, sometimes people blindly copy information that is wrong--perpetuating old "myths." That does not help anyone, although it might give bragging rights to those who want to say they have X thousand names in their file. Bottom line: If you didn't write it, it ain't yours! And besides, you lose credibility when others find out where you got it and didn't bother to check further. Pat McDonald
Bravo Pat! I so thoroughly agree with your post re: copyright infringement/plagiarism and am happy to see someone bring up this subject. Here is a link to a page that defines plagiarism, copyright, etc. that should help explain the differences between the two and exactly what each means but basically plagiarism is passing off someone else's work as your own and copyright infringement is publishing all or part of a copyright protected book, document, song, etc. with or without credit being given to the author. http://www.library.ualberta.ca/guides/plagiarism/terminology/index.cfm#plagiarism All postings to this, and all other Rootsweb Lists, are copyright protected by the originator and technically you may not forward a post made by someone else without their permission. "Fair Use" means that you may excerpt a small portion of a copyright protected publication and publish it: example, a list of the surnames of Early Settlers of Roane Co. with attritubtion ot the author of whatever book you are taking that info from. Facts of our ancestors lives, births, deaths, etc., are in of themselves public information and not copyright protected; a compilation of those facts can be copyrwritten. ===== Kathi Jones-Hudson MD Tombstone Transcription Project Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/maryland.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
To update new folks, there are several very good books and other publications available for Roane County. I have compiled a few on my Roots of Roane Page at http://www.roanetn.com/court.htm This has links to Bailey Publishing, and Oliver Springs Historical Society. The latter organization is publishing re-prints of Snyder E. Roberts' Roots of Roane book, and several volumes of History of Oliver Springs. http://www.oshistorical.com/society.htm On the first page of the Roane Heritage site, scroll to the bottom and see the list there. http://www.roanetnheritage.com/ You can get to Bailey Publishing from there too, and will find many wonderful reference works available. Mr. Bailey and his associates enjoy excellent reputations for accuracy in the Roane genealogical community. Over the years, the Roane Gen. Society had many publications. When it recently disbanded, it turned over some excellent books to the Heritage Society for distribution. I especially like the census books done by local people, as opposed to other publishers. And of course, one can now purchase CDs of digital census records from a couple of sources. Incidentally, use Mrs. Wells' books with caution. I don't have the book, but believe she does not often indicate her sources. Another book that contains some errors involving Roane folks is Tennessee Cousins. Not everything, of course. Good idea to double check with original records on all printed material, or websites, of course. Pat McDonald www.roanetn.com
The original of this book was indeed out of print for a long time, because I tried to find it. However, Heritage books.com released it again the past couple of years and you can now get a copy there. "History of Roane County, Tennessee, 1801-1870" Code: W145 Price: $30.00 "Emma Middleton Wells. This book is divided into five parts. Part I, 'Kingston and the County,' contains tax lists from 1802 and 1808, the first licensed merchants and hotels, a list of voters and summons for jury in 1809, members of militia companies in 1855, and justices in 1819. Part II, 'Military Record,' lists Revolutionary soldiers and graves, Soldiers of the War of 1812, Mexican War, War between the States, World War Records, Gold Star list and Distinguished Service Crosses. Part III, 'Churches, Academy and Lodge,' describes Bethel Church, Rittenhouse Academy, Kingston Grave Yard and the Masonic Lodge. Part IV contains marriage records. Part V, 'Records of Early Families,' comprises nearly two-thirds of the book. (1927) reprint, c335 pp., new surname index, paper" Their website: http://www.heritagebooks.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Pro duct_Code=W145 Sincerely, Alexis Hacker Scholz Researching Hacker, Mayton, Alexander, Delaney, Taylor: East Tenessee Footsteps at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tnfootsteps/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Hedgepath" <dhedgepath@sc.rr.com> To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [TNROANE] History of Roane County, by Emma Wells 1927 > > > How do you go about ordering this book? My family helped settle Roane Co and > I still have many family members living there in Oliver Springs. > Thanks, Cindy Hedgepath > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > Please do not post virus warnings to this list! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
How do you go about ordering this book? My family helped settle Roane Co and I still have many family members living there in Oliver Springs. Thanks, Cindy Hedgepath