There is a relationship between the Short and Parks families. Miller E. [Easley] Parks m Manerva VanPelt and had 2 children Joseph and Rebecca. (Manerva died and Miller 2m Sarah A. Robbs and had 5 more children. The question had been what happened to the first two Parks children? It was found: Miller and Minerva had two children, Joseph and Rebecca. Joseph, named for his father¹s father, was born 1848, 2 years after the marriage. In 1850, when Joseph would have been 2 years old, there is a Joseph Parks living with George W. Short in Rhea Co, TN. QUESTION: Why was 2 yr. old Joseph living with a relative? [I believe mother had died.] There was a Joseph Parks in the 1860 Roane Co, TN Mortality Schedule, age 13. [b =1848] He died from Congestion and Chill. He is probably first born of Miller Parks, as marriage of Miller and Manerva was 31 Mar 1846. AND There is a Washington Short who married Eliza Parks, dau of Robert Parks (sister of above mentioned Miller E. Parks.). They had children: Robert, Miller, Buck, George, Alex Christopher, James, Rebecca, Charlotte, and Sarah. Wash Short died aft 1877. In Hinds Baptist Church abstracted records, it lists Eliza and Wash Short as ³dismissed² as of Oct 1877... Hope that gives you a clue! Janie Jane Sherman, CGRS* CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. Col. Thomas Hughart Chapter, Regent National Society Daughters of the American Revolution http://www.geocities.com/colthomashughart/index.html BLUgenes Yorkshire Terriers http://members.tripod.com/~blugenes ---------- >From: TNROANE-D-request@rootsweb.com >To: TNROANE-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: TNROANE-D Digest V03 #11 >Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2003, 9:06 AM > >Content-Type: text/plain > >TNROANE-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 11 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [TNROANE] George W. Short/1880 cen [Eric_Kleindienst@Vanguard.com] > #2 Re: [TNROANE] George W. Short/1880 ["P McDonald" <mmcdonald3@houston.r] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from TNROANE-D, send a message to > > TNROANE-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:49:09 -0500 >From: Eric_Kleindienst@Vanguard.com >To: TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: ><OF960D4A0E.F56B6B8A-ON85256CC4.006C45CB-85256CC4.006CDF00@vanguard.com> >Subject: [TNROANE] George W. Short/1880 census, Rockwood, TN >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Hello, I am looking for information on my great-grandfather, George W. >Short. He was born 8/13/1867. What I know of him is from an article >written in February of 1890: > >He is but 22 years of age but his head is planted squarely upon his young >shoulders. George W. Short first saw the light near Knoxville, Tenn. He >was born on a farm where he spent his time until he was 12 or 14 years of >age, when he began his apprenticeship in the Roland Iron Company at >Rockwood, Tenn. > >I know that Rockwood is about 50 miles from Knoxville, so it's possible >that this Pittsburgh, PA paper called that "near Knoxville". The 1880 >census has one George Short of the right age: > >1880 Census, Rockwood, Roane County, Tennessee, page 390C: >John Short, Self, M, M, W, 35, Engineer, TN, TN, TN. >Rhoda Short, Wife, F, M, W, 36, Keeping House, TN, TN, TN. >George Short, Son, M, S, W, 13, At Home, TN, TN, TN. >Fredric Short, Son, M, S, W, 3, At Home, TN, TN, TN. > >He also had a sister, likely born after 1880, listed in his obit as >surviving him. The obit lists her as Mrs. L.L. Lyell of Tennessee. > >I can't find this John Short anywhere else in census data. Can anyone give >me any advice on how to track him or any information available? Thanks. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:44 -0600 >From: "P McDonald" <mmcdonald3@houston.rr.com> >To: TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000501c2cd59$a6a4d940$6401a8c0@houston.rr.com> >Subject: Re: [TNROANE] George W. Short/1880 census, Rockwood, TN >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Eric, I have looked at the SHORT family a little, in an effort to determine >the parents of Mary Short who married William Holland in 1808 Roane. She >was from SC. I did not have any success in finding her parents, but I >SUSPECT she is sister to Willis Short, born abt. 1796 in SC. > >Anyway, in 1860 Roane, Willis Short is listed in the 11th District, as 64, >wife Nancy 59, and some young adut children--oldest 22. (#1529-1423) He >has big bunch of kids in 1850 census. > >In the 14th District (1664-1538) is George W. Short 43 TN, farming & tanning >& Iron-making. He has wife Eliza 41 TN, and Rebecca 16, JOHN 14, Geo, 11, >Alx. 8, Chrisman 6, Lottie 5, Mary 3, James 1, and also listed with them is >Geo. W. Frazier 25, physician. I can't find this family in 1850 Roane. > >I do not find a marriage record for this couple, but in 1870 Roane 13th >District, #318-314, John Short 23, keeper furnace, Rheoda 25, and G. W. 3. > >If you have not checked out the George W. Short family, I think you might >want to do so. > >I also suggest you try to find some history of Rockwood. It is interesting >little town. >Pat McDonald > > > > > > > > >> Hello, I am looking for information on my great-grandfather, George W. >> Short. He was born 8/13/1867. What I know of him is from an article >> written in February of 1890: >> >> He is but 22 years of age but his head is planted squarely upon his young >> shoulders. George W. Short first saw the light near Knoxville, Tenn. He >> was born on a farm where he spent his time until he was 12 or 14 years of >> age, when he began his apprenticeship in the Roland Iron Company at >> Rockwood, Tenn. >> >> I know that Rockwood is about 50 miles from Knoxville, so it's possible >> that this Pittsburgh, PA paper called that "near Knoxville". The 1880 >> census has one George Short of the right age: >> >> 1880 Census, Rockwood, Roane County, Tennessee, page 390C: >> John Short, Self, M, M, W, 35, Engineer, TN, TN, TN. >> Rhoda Short, Wife, F, M, W, 36, Keeping House, TN, TN, TN. >> George Short, Son, M, S, W, 13, At Home, TN, TN, TN. >> Fredric Short, Son, M, S, W, 3, At Home, TN, TN, TN. >> >> He also had a sister, likely born after 1880, listed in his obit as >> surviving him. The obit lists her as Mrs. L.L. Lyell of Tennessee. >> >> I can't find this John Short anywhere else in census data. Can anyone >give >> me any advice on how to track him or any information available? Thanks. >> >

The 1880 census I have lists the John H. Short family we've been discussing: 1880 Census, Rockwood, Roane County, Tennessee, page 390C: John Short, Self, M, M, W, 35, Engineer, TN, TN, TN. Rhoda Short, Wife, F, M, W, 36, Keeping House, TN, TN, TN. George Short, Son, M, S, W, 13, At Home, TN, TN, TN. Fredric Short, Son, M, S, W, 3, At Home, TN, TN, TN. I have no record of Fredric after this. Also, the obituary for George Short above states: George W. Short was born 13 August 1867 in Tennessee, and died 04 October 1937 in Johnston, PA. Buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Sharon, Mercer County, PA. Survived by: three daughters: Mrs. B. D. Kiningham, Danville, Ill.., Mrs. Isaac Barnes, Chattanooga, Tenn., and Mrs. P. Martin Kleindienst, Granite City, Ill.; and one son, G. W. Short, Jr.; a step-son, Clavin Clark,, Phoenix, Ariz.; and one sister, Mrs. L. L. Lyell of Tennessee. The Kleindienst listed is my grandmother, but I have no record of George's sister, the "Mrs. L. L. Lyell of Tennessee" (I wish the early 1900's were enlightened enough to list the woman's name and not her husband's :)). This sister was either born later tha1 1880, which is a possibility, based on Frederic's age, or Frederic might actually be a girl (Frederica?) and the census guy botched it. I thought I saw a post that said 1890 is not available, but might 1900 have anything? John H. would only have been 55 in 1900 and should have been living either at home, or with neighboring family (if still alive, of course). Can't find George in 1900 census in PA (he moved here in 1889), but have him in 1910, 1920 and 1930. His parents were not living with him in 1910. So, they were either both dead, living with the sister, another relative or in their own home. But, I can't track this family from 1880 until I pick up George in 1910. Any hints? Thanks in advance!! Eric

While we are on the subject of SHORT family, I will post some notes I made during a search for Holland folks (not very successfully). I strongly suspect Mary Short is sister to Willis Short. When they arrived in Roane County, and whether they were the only ones in their family to travel from SC, I have not determined. But since they live close together, I feel confident they are related. I have not really worked on the SHORT family, and would be interested in sharing any information as to the parents of Mary and Willis. There seem to be two William Hollands in early Roane, one moving soon to Morgan Co. Some of my notes. ++++ WILLIAM HOLLAND was born Bet. 1760 - 1770, and died Bef. 1840 in Roane Co. TN. He married MARY SHORT April 09, 1808 in Roane Co. TN. She was born Abt. 1792 in SC. (In view of the age difference, there is always the possibility that this William Holland had a previous wife, and of course, other children) 1823 Capt. Taylors Co Tax List has Willis Short 1825 Capt. Taylors Co. Tax List has Willis Short 1827 Capt. Caseys Co. Tax List has Willis Short 1826 Capt. Caseys Co. Tax List has William (sic) Short. I don't know anything about this man, nor what is meant by the (sic) in book. I think it is probably Willis Short though. 1830 Roane County TN Census page 2 Holland, Wm. 111/110/001-122/001 [60-70, 30-40] (listed 6 lines away is Willis SHORT) 1840 Roane County TN Census page 39 Mary Hollen 021/111-011/110/1 Wright Hollen 000/001-000/1 (Willis Short is on preceding page 1322101-2001001) 1850 Roane HH1312 Mary Holland 58 SC (presumably, Mary Short Holland) Nancy (Holland) Row 28 TN (m. John Row in 1848) James M. Holland 20 TN Lewis J. 18 TN Elizabeth A. 22 TN Susan 35 TN Mary C. 8 TN Ann M. Row 5/12 TN (in HH#1303 is Willis Short 55 SC family, #1304 Elizabeth Row 37 NC and kids, #1318 Solomon Row 44 SC, wife and kids) Pat McDonald

Ken, your posting is a good example of how researchers should double check everything they find on the Internet against public records. Indeed, Geo. W. Short is found in the 12th District of 1860 Roane. I carelessly looked at the date - 14th August - instead of the District. Incidentally, listed next door to Geo. W. Short in 1860 is Rob't. P. Short 21 TN farming, and Almira T. 20. One would assume he is the son shown in 1850 census, newly married? I did not find the marriage records for Robert on my CD. However, I did find a marriage for Nancy R. Short to George W. Frazier in 7 Nov. 1860 Roane. Recall this man, 25-year old physician, was living in the household of George W. and Eliza Short. Nancy R. fits with the 1850 Rhea census, but seems not to be listed in 1860?? Poor thing--they overlooked her. Or does the film show her? I have a page on my website about Roane ironworks. http://www.roanetn.com/ironwk.htm It is copied from Roots of Roane County, TN by Snyder E. Roberts. There is no mention of Gordon, and I would be pleased to add this pioneer to the page if you would like to submit some data. Pat Mc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Parks" <kenparks@earthlink.net> To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [TNROANE] George W. Short/1880 census, Rockwood, TN > Eric, > > Here is what little I can add to your research of your SHORT family. > Hope it will be of some help. > > Ken Parks > > 1830 Roane Co. TN census: > (National Archives microfilm M19 roll 180 written page 2) > [Note: This is the only SHORT family in Rhea or Roane Co. TN in the 1830 > census.] > SHORT, Willis > 04-01001 (4 males 5-10 yr, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 20-30) > [Note: printed census index lists the above numbers--a viewing of the > actual microfilm image shows part of this page torn and missing, > including the part of the page where Willis would appear, i.e. the 30-40 > yr category, so the actual census would most likely read: 040001-01001] > > 1840 Rhea Co. TN census: > (National Archives microfilm M704 roll 535 printed page 42) > SHORT, Geo. W. 20001-00001 (2 males under 5yr, 1 male 20-30, 1 female > 20-30) > > George W. SHORT married Eliza PARKS 11 Aug 1836 Rhea Co. TN, A.G. > Wright, J.P. (Marriages of Rhea County, Tennessee 1808-1859, compiled by > Edythe Rucker Whitley, Baltimore: 1983 (Genealogical Publishing Co., > Inc.) p 31 > > In the 1850 Rhea Co. census: > (National Archives microfilm # M432 roll 893, written page 543, printed > page 272, dwelling & family 66) > 1st Civil District > SHORT, George W. 35, Eliza 27, Robert P. 10, Miller E. 9, Nancy R. 6, > JOHN H. 4, George G. 2, Joseph A. 2/12, Joseph PARKS 1--all born in TN, > occupation of George W.: tanner > > [Note: 1st Civil District in Rhea Co. was the northernmost district > adjoining the southern boundary of Roane Co.] > > Eliza PARKS (c1818-aft 1880) was a daughter of Robert PARKS (c1780-aft > 1850) & Nancy EASLEY (6 May 1783-19 Dec 1847-buried in Bean Cemetery, > Rhea Co.). This family is found in records of both Rhea & Roane Cos. at > various times, as they lived in the area near Whites Creek, which forms > the border of Rhea & Roane Cos. > > 1860 Roane Co. TN census: > You have this information from Pat McDonald, I believe. One note: George > W. SHORT family 1664-1538 is found in the 12th Civil District, not the > 14th. (National Archives microfilm M653 roll 1269, written page 219, > printed page 211, dwelling 1664 family 1538) > [Sidenote on this: P.O. listed on this page is Eagle Furnace. Rebecca > PARKS, older sister of Eliza (PARKS) SHORT married a much older George > GORDON in 1839. George GORDON established the Eagle Furnace, the first > ironworks, I believe, in Roane Co.] > > 1870 Roane Co. census: > You have this information (John SHORT household) also from Pat McDonald. > > 1880 Roane Co. TN census: > [Note: These three families are living adjacent to each other. This > would be Geo. W. & Eliza, parents of JOHN H. SHORT, and two of his > brothers, George G. & James P. SHORT] > > Census Place: District 12, Roane, Tennessee > Source: National Archives Film T9-1275 Page 367A > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > George G. SHORT Self M M W 32 TN > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN > Ella SHORT Wife F M W 23 TN > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN > Cordela SHORT Dau F S W 5 TN > Fa: TN Mo: TN > L. J. SHORT Dau F S W 3 TN > Fa: TN Mo: TN > Eliza R. SHORT Dau F S W 1 TN > Fa: TN Mo: TN > Laure STEPHENS Niece F S W 12 TN > Fa: ENG Mo: TN > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > James P. SHORT Self M M W 20 TN > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN > Ellin SHORT Wife F M W 23 TN > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > George W. SHORT Self M M W 63 TN > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN > Eliza SHORT Wife F M W 62 TN > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN > > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > Life, like nature and the universe is never harsh nor unfair..it is simply life! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Eric, I have looked at the SHORT family a little, in an effort to determine the parents of Mary Short who married William Holland in 1808 Roane. She was from SC. I did not have any success in finding her parents, but I SUSPECT she is sister to Willis Short, born abt. 1796 in SC. Anyway, in 1860 Roane, Willis Short is listed in the 11th District, as 64, wife Nancy 59, and some young adut children--oldest 22. (#1529-1423) He has big bunch of kids in 1850 census. In the 14th District (1664-1538) is George W. Short 43 TN, farming & tanning & Iron-making. He has wife Eliza 41 TN, and Rebecca 16, JOHN 14, Geo, 11, Alx. 8, Chrisman 6, Lottie 5, Mary 3, James 1, and also listed with them is Geo. W. Frazier 25, physician. I can't find this family in 1850 Roane. I do not find a marriage record for this couple, but in 1870 Roane 13th District, #318-314, John Short 23, keeper furnace, Rheoda 25, and G. W. 3. If you have not checked out the George W. Short family, I think you might want to do so. I also suggest you try to find some history of Rockwood. It is interesting little town. Pat McDonald > Hello, I am looking for information on my great-grandfather, George W. > Short. He was born 8/13/1867. What I know of him is from an article > written in February of 1890: > > He is but 22 years of age but his head is planted squarely upon his young > shoulders. George W. Short first saw the light near Knoxville, Tenn. He > was born on a farm where he spent his time until he was 12 or 14 years of > age, when he began his apprenticeship in the Roland Iron Company at > Rockwood, Tenn. > > I know that Rockwood is about 50 miles from Knoxville, so it's possible > that this Pittsburgh, PA paper called that "near Knoxville". The 1880 > census has one George Short of the right age: > > 1880 Census, Rockwood, Roane County, Tennessee, page 390C: > John Short, Self, M, M, W, 35, Engineer, TN, TN, TN. > Rhoda Short, Wife, F, M, W, 36, Keeping House, TN, TN, TN. > George Short, Son, M, S, W, 13, At Home, TN, TN, TN. > Fredric Short, Son, M, S, W, 3, At Home, TN, TN, TN. > > He also had a sister, likely born after 1880, listed in his obit as > surviving him. The obit lists her as Mrs. L.L. Lyell of Tennessee. > > I can't find this John Short anywhere else in census data. Can anyone give > me any advice on how to track him or any information available? Thanks. >

Hello, I am looking for information on my great-grandfather, George W. Short. He was born 8/13/1867. What I know of him is from an article written in February of 1890: He is but 22 years of age but his head is planted squarely upon his young shoulders. George W. Short first saw the light near Knoxville, Tenn. He was born on a farm where he spent his time until he was 12 or 14 years of age, when he began his apprenticeship in the Roland Iron Company at Rockwood, Tenn. I know that Rockwood is about 50 miles from Knoxville, so it's possible that this Pittsburgh, PA paper called that "near Knoxville". The 1880 census has one George Short of the right age: 1880 Census, Rockwood, Roane County, Tennessee, page 390C: John Short, Self, M, M, W, 35, Engineer, TN, TN, TN. Rhoda Short, Wife, F, M, W, 36, Keeping House, TN, TN, TN. George Short, Son, M, S, W, 13, At Home, TN, TN, TN. Fredric Short, Son, M, S, W, 3, At Home, TN, TN, TN. He also had a sister, likely born after 1880, listed in his obit as surviving him. The obit lists her as Mrs. L.L. Lyell of Tennessee. I can't find this John Short anywhere else in census data. Can anyone give me any advice on how to track him or any information available? Thanks.

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Phyllis, Here is what I could pull out of the 1830 census for Roane & Knox Cos. for both BURNETT & LUTTRELL (& variations). I hope this may help you start to figure out the parents of Silas & Stacy (BURNETT) LUTTRELL. Good luck with your search. Ken Parks Only Silas LUTTRELL listed in the 1830 TN census is: Silas LUTTRELL-Knox Co. page 323--110101-201101 To break that down: 1 male under 5 years old 1 male 5-10 0 males 10-15 1 male 15-20 0 males 20-30 1 male 30-40 2 females under 5 0 females 5-10 1 female 10-15 1 female 15-20 0 females 20-30 1 female 30-40 The only LUTTRELL listed in 1830 Roane Co. census: George LUTTRELL-p 10--200201-112001 (Same age range as Silas, not likely the father) LUTTERELL listings in Roane Co.: Nelson LUTTERELL-p 47--00010001-0101101 (Nelson 50-60 yrs old) Mason LUTTERELL-p 48--0000001-2322001 (Mason 40-50) Martin LUTTERELL-p 55--1011001-0001101 (Martin 40-50) Of these, only Nelson would be old enought to be father of Silas. LUTTRELLs in Knox Co. 1830 census: Silas LUTTRELL-p 323 (see above) Edward LUTTRELL-p 325--0000000001-0000000001 (both 70-80 yrs old) John LUTTRELL-p 328--10001-20001001 Martha LUTTRELL-p 329--0001-0010001 (Martha 40-50) James LUTTRELL-p 355--1000100001-0000100001 (both 70-80 yrs old) William LUTTRELL-p 362--01010001-0111001 (William 50-60) Lewis LUTTRELL-p 362--2000001-12101 (Lewis 40-50) [note: William & Lewis listed next door to each other] Elizabeth LUTTRELL-p 394--10012-10002001 (50-60 yrs old) John LUTTRELL-p 394--000110001-000010001 (both 60-70 yrs old) [note: Elizabeth & John listed 12 households apart on same page] Jackson LUTTRELL-p395--10001-0001 Those listed above with age ranges COULD possibly be old enough to be father or mother of Silas. BURNETT: ROANE Co. 1830 census: Carter BARNETT-p 56--110010001-1002001 (Carter 60-70) Moses BURNET-p 48--00100001-0012101 (Moses 50-60) William BURNETT-p 15--00001-0100100001 Samuel BURNETT-p 26--100001-120001 Hiram BURNETT-p 36--20001-01001 Jefferson BURNETT-p 45--21002-00001 James BURNETT-p 61--000000001-000000001 (Both 60-70) Of the above, only Moses & James are old enough to be father of Stacy (BURNETT) LUTTRELL. KNOX Co. 1830 census: Judah BARNETT-p 318--002-00010001 Jane BARNETT-p 359--00001-0001001 (Jane 40-50) William BARNETT-p 394--00001000101-00020001 (William 60-70 or 80-90) John BARNETT-p 395--00001-10001 [note: some of these BARNETTs are on the same page or near other BURNETTs and LUTTRELLS--always a possibility transcriber misread name] Jeremiah BURNETT-p 335--110001-10001 Mabel BURNETT-p 355--01001-210001 Joseph BURNETT-p 358--00001-10001 Howel BURNETT-p 361--10101-10001 Samuel BURNETT-p 387--00002-10001 Zachariah BURNETT-p 388--001001-111 Lemuel BURNETT-p 388--020001-20001001 Judah BURNETT-p 388--000111-00001001 [note: Zachariah 6 households away from Lemuel/Lemuel & Judah next door to each other] Elisha BURNETT-p 395--00001-10001 None of the male BURNETTS in Knox Co. are old enough to be father of Stacy (BURNETT) LUTTRELL. Looking at all the above, Moses BURNET (Ro-p 48) & Nelson LUTTERELL (Ro-p 47) are both old enough to be the parents of the couple in question and are living near each other, though it's hard to estimate proximity from page numbers alone, but I think this is a good possibility to start with. Do the names Moses or Nelson turn up in children or grandchildren of Silas & Stacy?

That is Stacy Burnett married to Silas Luttrell on that date. Bondsmen were Silas Luttrell and Moses Burnett. I believe Silas died about 1851 in Roane County. Barbara In Sacramento ----- Original Message ----- From: <TVset80@aol.com> To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: [TNROANE] Elusive BURNETTS > I have a marriage list from Roane Co. for Stacy and Silas Burnett married > Sept 7 1812. > Page 3,685 Batch film 7713702 sheet 51. They are not on the 1830 census. > Since Roane involved many counties I do not know where to look as they are > not listed in Roane Co. per say. > Would that film tell me anything about her parents? Who they are or what > county they were in when they got married? Would appreciate any infor on this > family. Thanks Phyllis SPencer > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe" in the subject line to TNROANE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have a marriage list from Roane Co. for Stacy and Silas Burnett married Sept 7 1812. Page 3,685 Batch film 7713702 sheet 51. They are not on the 1830 census. Since Roane involved many counties I do not know where to look as they are not listed in Roane Co. per say. Would that film tell me anything about her parents? Who they are or what county they were in when they got married? Would appreciate any infor on this family. Thanks Phyllis SPencer

Ineed to find out if the original marriage bond or license is available, and if so, how do I get a copy. The marriage date was 9 Dec 1830, and Sarah's last name may be listed as Owens. Glenda Underwood Kooney

Crossville Chronicle obit... Conrad P. Weismuller Dec. 15, 1935 - Jan. 12, 2003 Conrad Philip Weismuller, 67, of Crossville, passed away Jan. 12, 2003. Mr. Weismuller was born Dec. 15, 1935 in Atlantic City, NJ, the son of Conrad and Helen Schmidt Weismuller. He was a resident of Linwood, NJ for 40 years where he was a member of Linwood Community Church and a fuel oil manager. He was a licensed boat captain for 35 years for private fishing boats. Survivors include his wife, Gladys Weismuller of Crossville, sons and daughters-in-law, David and Irene Weismuller of Oakdale, TN and James and Denise Weismuller of Crossville; daughter and son-in-law, Susan and Clark Mathis of Crossville; sister, Lillian van Doren of New Jersey; and five grandsons. Services will be announced at a later date. Hood Funeral Home is in charge of the arrangements.

I am doing a family study of the Clifton Family Is there any one who might look up an obit for me. This is the paternal grandfather of my daughter's children Gilbert William Clifton and died April 25,1990 in Roane Co., Tn at the Oak Ridge Medical Center. Born? He married Shirley Browning of Powell , Knox County, TN in 1955 0r 1956 Brothers Franklin H. Clifton Jr. and Paul James Clifton one who may be a minster. Father maybe a Franklin H. Clifton Sr. Mother or grandmother first name maybe Jessie ( Unknown) no surnames known If anyone knows of Gilbert Clifton's family they may contact me off line in case some are still living.e-mail me at mossnb1@earthlink.net Thank you for any help you may give me Norita Shepherd Moss Norita Shepherd Moss Genealogy is my Hobby God is still my first ancestor Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking. 1 Corinthians 13:4-5 --- mossnb1@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Crossville Chronicle obit... James E. Crabtree Jan. 12, 2003 James E. "Buster" Crabtree, 78, of Crossville, formerly of Rockwood, passed away Jan. 12, 2003. Funeral services were conducted Jan. 15 from the chapel of Evens Mortuary. Interment followed at Roane Memorial Gardens, with military honors provided by the Roane County Military Memorial Honor Guard. The Rev. Charles Kelley officiated. Mr. Crabtree was a member of the Clymersville Baptist Church, a retired U.S. Army veteran with 22 years of service and a member of the Rockwood VFW. He was a former security guard at Roane State Community College. Survivors include a daughter-in-law, Ruth Pendleton of Grandview, TN; grandchildren, Allan Pendleton, Sheila Becker and Rebecca Gibson; great-grandchildren, Ashley, Ben, Taneya, Kayla, Joshua and Colby; and a host of nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his wife, Lola May Crabtree; stepson, Clyde Pendleton; sisters, Lucille Mills and Maggie Clifton; and brothers, Billy, Morgan, Claude and Sewell Crabtree. Evans Mortuary in Rockwood was in charge of the arrangements.

Crossville Chronicle obit... James L. Vance Jan. 11, 2003 James Luther Vance, 55, of Black Jack Road, Rockwood, passed away Jan. 11, 2003. Funeral services were conducted Jan. 14, 2003 from the chapel of Evans Mortuary, with graveside services and interment held Jan. 15 in the Roane Memorial Gardens. Bro. Bob Holder officiated. Mr. Vance was the son of Kirkland Luther and Marie Vaughn Vance. He was a member of Second Baptist Church of Rockwood and a graduate of Rockwood High School. He served in the Army National Guard, Rockwood Unit. He was a heavy equipment operator and was employed by Phillips and Jordan of Knoxville. Survivors include his wife, Brenda Vance; daughters and son-in-law, Michele Vance of Rockwood and Denise and Terry Christopher of Crossville; their mother, Janet Foland; step-son and wife, Michael and Deanna Hester of Harriman; grandchildren, Natasha and Dakota James Green, Shayla Marie, Tanner, Brylie and Trey Christopher and Caitlyn Hester; brothers and sisters-in-law, Dale and Connie Vance, Danny and Lavada Vance, and Carl and Teresa Vance; sisters and brother-in-law, Diane Vance and Linda and Freddy Brummett, all of Rockwood; a host of nieces, nephews, cousins and friends; and special family friend, Ms. Hassie Kirby. He was preceded in death by his parents, Kirkland Luther and Marie Vaughn Vance. Pallbearers were James Cagle, Dexter Bradford, Gabe Bradford, Danny Futrell, Billy Grigsby and Junior Roddy. James was a kind, gentle and loving man who cared deeply for his family and friends. Evans Mortuary of Rockwood was in charge of the arrangements.

Crossville Chronicle obit... Alice O. Hayes Jan. 14, 1930 - Jan. 3, 2003 Alice Ollene Hayes, 72, of Ashland City, TN, passed away Jan. 3, 2003. Funeral services will be conducted Jan. 13 at 11 a.m. at Mundy Funeral Home South Chapel in Clarkrange, TN, with burial in Green Acres Memory Gardens in Crossville. Bro. Dean Patton will officiate. Mrs. Hayes was born Jan. 14, 1930 in Fentress County, TN. She was a member of Clarkrange Baptist Church. Survivors include sons, Steve Hayes of Ashland City and Bill Hayes of Mississippi; grandchildren, Emily, Gary and Donna Hayes; great-grandchild, Alex Hayes; brother and sisters-in-law, Gene and Joyce Allred of Cookeville, Jane Smith of Jamestown, Lydia Allred and Virgie Delk, both of LaVergne, TN; and sisters and brothers-in-law, Alene and John McCormick of Harriman, Orba and Jackie Welch of Nashville, and Clayta and Jim Perry of Crossville. She was preceded in death by her husband, James Oliver (Peanut) Hayes. Pallbearers will be Chad Owen, Doug Stewart, Jack Nulty, Ken Wilson, Jerome Collins, Mike Townley, Larry Pritchett and Jim Pritchett. Honorary pallbearers will be Tim Young, Don Dansby, S. Dansby and N. Dansby. Mundy Funeral Home South Chapel is in charge of the arrangements.

Crossville Chronicle obit... Gloria J. Kent Oct. 9, 1937 - Jan. 6, 2003 Gloria Jean Kent, 65, of Crossville, passed away Jan. 6, 2003. Funeral services were conducted Jan. 7 from the chapel of Crossville Memorial Funeral Home, with burial in Crossville City Cemetery. Joe Franzone officiated. Mrs. Kent was born Oct. 9, 1937 in Toledo, OH, the daughter of Ernest Overby and Veronica Moore Smith. She was retired from the Kroger Company and a member of Cornerstone Christian Fellowship. Survivors include her husband, Dan Kent, Sr. of Crossville; son and daughter-in-law, Dan Kent, Jr. and Cindy of Crossville; daughter and son-in-law, Kathy and John Ward of Rockwood; daughter, Peggy Russell of Crossville; grandchildren, Joseph and Jessica Kent, Kris, Kevin and Karl Phillips, Chantilly Young and Mandy Ward; great-grandchildren, Tyler Kent, Kayla Kent and Jaden Jackson; brother and sister-in-law, Ernest and Joyce Overby of Georgia; sisters-in-law, Winnie Jeffers, Vida Pearl Durley, Mary Beth and Homer Corbett; and numerous nieces and nephews. In addition to her parents, she was preceded in death by her sisters, Betty Holloway and Jo Marshall. Pallbearers were Joseph Kent, Kristopher Phillips, Kevin Phillips, Karl Phillips, Buddy Overby and Ricky Holloway. Crossville Memorial Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements.

humm. Not sure. all I have is a Lenora Jane Massey b: 1880 daughter of Isaac Massey and Mary Colclasure. Nothing more on here than that... :( Sheila Barnes wrote: >I have a Lenna Massey b 1885 - d 8 Feb 1907 >buried in Curley, WA and >marrying Arthur William Curry. > >Might this fit with your Massey family? > >Sheila in WA state > > > > Massey/ Snow/Blake families > > >> >> >>>Looking for any and all inforamtion on the Massey, Snow, and Blake >>>famillies in and around Roane Co. TNN. >>> >>>James S. Massey M: Charlotte Snow >>> >>>James parents were Henry Massey and Rebecca Blake. the family was also >>>in Wake co. NC. >>> >>> > > >==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== >J. Daniel, List administrator >Any problems please contact me at jad@sbcglobal.net > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

I have a Lenna Massey b 1885 - d 8 Feb 1907 buried in Curley, WA and marrying Arthur William Curry. Might this fit with your Massey family? Sheila in WA state Massey/ Snow/Blake families > > >> Looking for any and all inforamtion on the Massey, Snow, and Blake >> famillies in and around Roane Co. TNN. >> >> James S. Massey M: Charlotte Snow >> >> James parents were Henry Massey and Rebecca Blake. the family was also >> in Wake co. NC.

about 1800-1860's or so. then the family moved down to MO. Here is a story on James "tennessee Jim" Massey that was given to me from another researcher and a little of the family outline. Rachell History and Families of Laclede County (2000) first one MASSEY - James S. "Tennessee Jim" Massey (Nov. 15, 1815, NC-Sep. 30, 1885, Laclede County, MO) was called "Tennessee Jim" because he walked from TN. He married Charolotte Snow (1815, TN-May 11, 1897, MO). Jime's family farmed in Roane County, TN. Jim was a handyman, great sportsman; was physically very strong. He went to town every Saturday and entered boxing, wrestling and relay matches. For a long time, he was the local champion. One farmer wanted the championship title for his son; he set up a boxing match with Jim. The son used brass knuckles to increase his chances of winning. Although injured during the bout, Jim fought back and the other person was killed during the fight. The farmer was a friend of the sheriff, the fight was uncalled unfair, and they wanted to hang Jim for murder. Jim broke out of jail and headed for MO, where he had relatives. When he arrived at the mile-wide Mississippi River, he started to swim to the other side. Two sheriffs who had followed him, picked him up in a boat. On their way to shore, Jim fought the sheriffs and capsized the boat. He swam back in handcuffs across the Mississippi River to MO. Part of the boat was later found, and people in TN thought Jim and the sheriffs had drowned. Jim continued to Wright County, MO, where his relatives lived. By using flint rocks, he was able to saw off the hancuff chain, which held his wrists together. He slept during the day and walked at night, using the North Star for navigation. He was in constant fear of being pursued by sheriffs and was concerned about getting food. Another problem was the constant presence of wild animals. There were many Indian tribes in that area. Some were friendly, but Jim avoided all of them. One morning he came upon a farmhouse with children playing in the yard. He was friendly with the children; the farmer helped remove the handcuffs. He gave Jim a job in the blacksmith shop. Jim left a few days later. The farmer gave him food, a gun and knife for protection and hunting. After many exhausting days, he arrived at a stream and could go no farther. A 12-year old boy found him; Jim swore the boy to secrecy. The boy steal food from his parents. With the boy's help, Jim was able to rest a few days. He slept in a hollow tree at night. It was truly a miracle that he survived and lived a normal life for many years afterward. He got to Wright County and his relatives. They sent a message to his wife in TN, who was sick with worry over him. She was overjoyed to that he was alive and well. She and her nine children traveled from Roane County, TN to MO in a covered wagon to join him. They homesteaded a farm and raised their children close to Cobbs Creek in Wright County near McBride Cemetery. Submitted by Lacy (Massey) Cantrell ------------- Second one ----------- MASSEY - The nine children of James S. "Tennessee Jim" and Charlotte (Snow) Massey were all born in TN and are listed below: 1) John Oliver "Coober" Massey (oct 15, 1832-Mar 6 1902, Wright County, MO). He was married to Sarah Ann Massey. Their children were James, Martha C., Amanda Caroline, Tennesee A., Virginia Ann, and Henry Isaac Massey. 2) Martha C. Massey (December 1834-Aug 4, 1917). Her first marriage was to Marcus Massey in 1852. Their children were Isabelle Jane and Elizabeth Massey. Her second marriage was to Lewis Thomas McBride on Aug 15, 1859. Their children were Mary F., James M., Rebecca Charolotte, Nancy Eva, John Adam, William, Oliver, Isaac "Ike", and Joseph McBride. 3) Caroline Massey was born in 1836 and died in Wright County, MO. Her first marriage was to Jacob Massey. They had one son, James Joseph "Big Jim" Massey. Her second marriage was to Aaron Durbin. They had one daughter, Mary Margaret Durbin. Her third marriage was to Joseph P. Daniel. They had one son, Joseph P. Daniel II. 4) Nancy Massey (oCT 10, 1840-nOV 7, 1913). She was married on Mar 11, 1860 to Joseph Thomas Simmons. Their children were: Nancy Charlotte married Robert Chambers; John married Lottie Williams, Sarah married Dan Daniels; Joseph Thomas married Nancy, daughter of Zachariah and Harriet Fincher. Harriet Missouri Hadulah Carolina Simmons married Andrew Jackson Chambers, a nephew to Robert Chambers. Andrew and Robert Chambers married sisters. 5) Elizabeth Massey (1842-Jun 12, 1922). She was married to Daniel Vance on Apr 21, 1899. They had no children. 6) Harriet Massey (1846-1920) married Nathan Daniel on Aug 9, 1866. Their children were James L., Mary Elizabeth, William, Isaac, Bertha L., Charles A., Nettie Jane, Rebecca S. and Louisa Daniel. 7) Isaac Massey (Mar 25, 1848-Jun 25, 1884) was married to Mary Adeline Colclasure on Dec 25, 1876. Their children were J. W., Florence Myrtle, Bertha May, Pleasant Haiz, Lenora Jane, Elijah Jacob and Ivey E. Massey. 8) Louisa Massey was born in 1848. She was married to William S. McBride on Jan 4, 1866. Their children were William Joseph, Sarah M., Rebecca, Isaac Jesse and Eliza B. McBride. 9) Sarah Ann "Sally" Massey was born in 1850. She married Samuel Nelson on Feb 7, 1878. Their children were John Oliver "Obb" Massey, James Anderson Nelson, Charlotte Nelson, William, Frank, and Carolina Nelson. Jim, his wife, and most of their children are buried at McBride Cemetery. Sumbitted by Lacy (Massey) Cantrell, Great Great-Granddaughter of Tennessee Jim and Charlotte Snow Massey. Rick Williams wrote: >What time frame are you looking at? That makes it easier to help you. >Rick >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chad & Rachell Lindley" <chadl@gorge.net> >To: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:06 PM >Subject: [TNROANE] Massey/ Snow/Blake families > > > > >>Looking for any and all inforamtion on the Massey, Snow, and Blake >>famillies in and around Roane Co. TNN. >> >>James S. Massey M: Charlotte Snow >> >>James parents were Henry Massey and Rebecca Blake. the family was also >>in Wake co. 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