I'm researching the James Alexander Robbs family. James moved to Roane County around 1835 and died there in 1875. His wife was Nancy Hickey, who also died in Roane Co. in 1860-70. They lived in Washington Co. before that time period. Children born in Roane Co. were: Elizabeth Sarah Rebecca Mary E. Francis Isaac Shelby James Taylor I'm looking for information on the son, born in 1829, who was in the 1830 Washingtion Co. census, but is unnamed there or listed in Roane Co.

Don, Don't know if I'm the correct Donna, but I can answer your question re: the pension papers. The National Archives keep all the records and you can contact them to get a copy of your ancestor's pension info. Quite often, there is a wealth of information that you might not have gotten anywhere else. You need the full name of the serviceman, the war he served in and the state from which he entered service. You can (and should if you can) supply additional info - like what company, navy or army, etc. You need to have a form NATF 80, Order for Copies of Veterans Records, which is free. Address is General Reference Branch (NNRG), National Archives and Records Admin., 8th and Penn. Ave., NW., Washington, D.C. 20408. Good luck. Donna Barnes ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Coleman <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: [TNROANE] Re: TNROANE-D Digest V00 #21 > Donna, > Saw your post to the list about having gotten a copy of some pension papers > (c.1830/1840). May I inquire as to how you go about doing that? I have a > pension file number for one of my wife's ancestors, and would like to obtain > a copy for our files. > Many thanks, > Don Coleman > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 7:50 AM > Subject: TNROANE-D Digest V00 #21 > > >

Thank you for the info on Erie. It's very helpful. Ann

Hi, Erie is located in Loudon County in the southwest point very near both Roane and McMinn County and not too far from Monroe County. Philadelphia is located in Loudon County slightly northeast of Erie. It is about half way between Sweetwater going north toward Loudon. Now for Stockton PO. I do not know the exact location of this post office, however Stockton Valley is located on the western side of Matlock Ridge which is between the Erie and Philadelphia area. Stockton Valley Road is next to Polecat creek most of the way from the Tennessee River to the junction of Old Kingston Pike (which wonders around in that area.). Erie is at or near the junction of Blue Springs Road, Erie Road, Fry Road, and several others. The distance between Erie and Philadelphia is about 10 "as the crow flies miles"(atcfm) and maybe as many as 14 miles due to the back roads. From Philadelphia to the beginning of Stockton Valley Road south of the Tennessee River is about 5 "atcf miles" and from the beginning of Stockton Valley to Erie is about 8 "atcf miles" maybe 10 by road. This will give you some idea of the land mass area your searching. This is in an area that was once Roane County and is now Loudon County. Leota This information is from Delorme's Tennessee Atlas and Gazetteer page 42. ----- Original Message ----- From: RChory <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [TNROANE] Town of Erie Thanks, Frankie, but there's also a Philadelphia in Loudon County. In fact, searching for "Philadelphia" at http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TN.html gives the following results: Results for City: Philadelphia State: tn - ---------------------------------------- City State County Philadelphia TN Washington Philadelphia TN Loudon Philadelphia TN Maury - ---------------------------------------- Ann ------- Frankie wrote: >Philadelpha,is in Monroe Co, Tn. not Loudon Co. >

The modern location of Erie is given as 35 deg 38 min N, 84 deg 34 min W. To help you find it, it is within 5 miles of the following places: Cedar Fork, Cook Mill, Fairlane, Fochee, Johnson, Luttrell, Murray Store, Northpoint, Pattie Gap, Pine Grove, McMinn, Prigmore, Regret, Riddles Store, Surprise, Ten Mile, and Union Grove. (information from CCFINDER II program). Ray Cox >Does anyone know the exact location of the town of Erie? The civil war >pension papers of my gggrandfather, Thomas Brackett, give that as his >address. Erie was in the part of Roane County that became Loudon County. >In his papers, his address is also referred to as Philadelphia, R.F.D.#2 >and Stockton Post Office, yet he always lived in the same place. Is there >a way to pinpoint this location? > >Ann > >

Thanks, Frankie, but there's also a Philadelphia in Loudon County. In fact, searching for "Philadelphia" at http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TN.html gives the following results: Results for City: Philadelphia State: tn - ---------------------------------------- City State County Philadelphia TN Washington Philadelphia TN Loudon Philadelphia TN Maury - ---------------------------------------- Ann ------- Frankie wrote: >Philadelpha,is in Monroe Co, Tn. not Loudon Co. >

Hi Ann, Philadelpha,is in Monroe Co, Tn. not Loudon Co. . I had an Aunt who lived in Philly. Happy Hunting ! Frankie

Does anyone know the exact location of the town of Erie? The civil war pension papers of my gggrandfather, Thomas Brackett, give that as his address. Erie was in the part of Roane County that became Loudon County. In his papers, his address is also referred to as Philadelphia, R.F.D.#2 and Stockton Post Office, yet he always lived in the same place. Is there a way to pinpoint this location? Ann

Just recently re-subscribed -- hi to Sandy, Pat, Marceline, and all. I found this tidbit while gensurfing -- someone might be interested: re: The WILDER Brigade http://www.usgennet.org/~ahiljasp/wilderbrig.html >From the Newton, IN Press October 12, 1887 "The Marshall Herald published a complete roster of the Wilder Brigade, so far as known, taken from those who were in attendance at the Greencastle, Ind., reunion Sept. 6, 7, 8 last." The officers chosen for the ensuing year are: Gen. J.T. WILDER, commander, Roane, Tenn............ (snipped) The above from: Jasper County, Illinois Genealogy http://www.usgennet.org/~ahiljasp/index.html#vital Ron Boone (RCHS 1965 - anyone else?) [email protected] Maryville, Blount County, Tennessee BOONE, COADA, COOPER, and SPARKS families of E-TN & W-NC

Hi Donna, No I never sent off for Leroy's pension papers. Would there be papers to ask for,,,even though no one ever applied for his pension? If so, what do I need to do to order them. I received his Civil War roll muster sheets but that was all I requested,,,,Is it the same form? As far as Leroy having a wife earlier,,,,I have his birthday down as March 15, 1836,,taken off his headstone, so that would have made him 25 because he enlisted in June 17, 1861. Kinda old for back then to not be married I guess. But we know for sure he married Sept. 15, 1862 . I looked back on my census sheets that I do have and the 1880 age would also have put him being born in 1836 and the 1900 shows him at 63 (just a year off). The Civil War records of the battles, etc. of 2nd Ashby's, I recieved it from a fellow back east and he said most of the dates, places and information came from the Institute for Civil War Research in Middle Village N.Y. Williams' last roll muster showed he was still with the 2nd Ashby Unit so the dates and battles will correspond with him also. Just got back into the gen stuff,,,,,,email had been shut down for a while,,,,had to upgrade and re-install,,,,so hopefully no more glitches,,,,lol Sent off a couple of snail mails to g granddaughters of Dee Huddleston to see if someone in the family might have a few older pics of Dee and possibly even Lee or Adaline or others. Hope things are going better on the home front. Keep in touch,,,, Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "tcandkk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 12:39 PM Subject: [TNROANE] Pension papers > Greg, > > I got William's pension papers today. For some reason, he had two applications. > Doesn't say the first were rejected...anyway, glad I did as lots of stuff came > with them referencing other names. Did you get pension papers on LeeRoy? These > say William was born in Anderson County, and both have different birthdates as > far as the year! With his widows pension papers, I now have 1838, 1841 ans 1842! > All January 10th. > > I know the Anderson border changed, I'm looking into time frames now. However if > Thomas and Mary got married in 1838, they should have been in Anderson in 1840, > unless the boundaries changed right at that time. There are Hunley's listed, but > the wife is listed as 30-40, and too many kids listed. > > Remember how you thought Lee Roy's bd was earlier than would work out with their > marriage? I wonder if there was a previous wife??? If Lee Roy was born earlier, > then William was born in 1838, not in 1841 or 1842, poss the mom could have died > in childbirth, and Thomas remarried 3 months later in April??? > > When I sent to Washington, I did not have pension #'s, and all they did was > duplicate the widow's pension records I already had. I got these from the TN > library. Where did you get the print out about the CW? The one that listed all > the specific battles? I have yet to get one on William. I'll have t look through > Lee Roy's printout. I now know William was wounded in Somerset, KY and Loudon, > KY. I'll have Rick make copies for you this next week. > > If you have any reference to where Lee Roy was born, please let me know. Maybe > that will help zero in on who Thomas's father was.....sigh! > > I have been bombarded with info on all the other lines. So I hope to get started > on the site again. I have been trying to get Jean to send me copies of Jesse's > info, I'll prod again. She has been running in a lot of other directions for the > last few months.....but I'll prod again today :) > > Donna

Donna, Saw your post to the list about having gotten a copy of some pension papers (c.1830/1840). May I inquire as to how you go about doing that? I have a pension file number for one of my wife's ancestors, and would like to obtain a copy for our files. Many thanks, Don Coleman [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 7:50 AM Subject: TNROANE-D Digest V00 #21

Greg, I just recounted....duh! Thomas Hunley 2 under 5 2 5-10 0 10-15 0 15-20 1 20-30 0 under 5 1 5-10 0 10-15 0 15-20 1 20-30 If this is Thomas in the 1840 Anderson census, in this case, his age is too young. Plus, there is an extra female 5-10. Around that time, Anderson was resurveyed for the Anderson Campbell split done earlier. It does not say the line was changed though.... no line changes until 1850's. By 1850 Thomas was in Bledsoe. Guess I need to recheck all the other surrounding 1840 censuses... Donna

Greg, I got William's pension papers today. For some reason, he had two applications. Doesn't say the first were rejected...anyway, glad I did as lots of stuff came with them referencing other names. Did you get pension papers on LeeRoy? These say William was born in Anderson County, and both have different birthdates as far as the year! With his widows pension papers, I now have 1838, 1841 ans 1842! All January 10th. I know the Anderson border changed, I'm looking into time frames now. However if Thomas and Mary got married in 1838, they should have been in Anderson in 1840, unless the boundaries changed right at that time. There are Hunley's listed, but the wife is listed as 30-40, and too many kids listed. Remember how you thought Lee Roy's bd was earlier than would work out with their marriage? I wonder if there was a previous wife??? If Lee Roy was born earlier, then William was born in 1838, not in 1841 or 1842, poss the mom could have died in childbirth, and Thomas remarried 3 months later in April??? When I sent to Washington, I did not have pension #'s, and all they did was duplicate the widow's pension records I already had. I got these from the TN library. Where did you get the print out about the CW? The one that listed all the specific battles? I have yet to get one on William. I'll have t look through Lee Roy's printout. I now know William was wounded in Somerset, KY and Loudon, KY. I'll have Rick make copies for you this next week. If you have any reference to where Lee Roy was born, please let me know. Maybe that will help zero in on who Thomas's father was.....sigh! I have been bombarded with info on all the other lines. So I hope to get started on the site again. I have been trying to get Jean to send me copies of Jesse's info, I'll prod again. She has been running in a lot of other directions for the last few months.....but I'll prod again today :) Donna

The Compendium of Am Genealogy: 1st Fam of Am; Vol. IV, 1930, Virkus CO, Genealogical Publishers, South Dearborn St, Chicago, IL, borrowed from UVA's Alderman Library. I am NOT a HOOD researcher, but thought perhaps this info. would be useful to someone. (My lines are Watkins, Kinser, Hooker, Kittrell, Greenway, Burton, Hart, Whitaker, Duncan/Dunkin, Byerley/Bierley, Moore, Harmon, Messimore, McClain.) Page. 283. 4-James HOOD (b nr. Belfast, Ireland, 1785-1830; of Scotch-Irish desc.) from Ireland as a boy to Darlington, SC; later from GA to Knox CO, TN; settled finally on a farm 9 mil east of Crystal Springs, Miss; m 1) 1813 Rachel COUZENS (1797-1826; Jesse m Mary WILLIAMSON. 3- Elizabeth (1833-1907) m Jesse Fox HOOD (above) 2-Ella Nora Ophelia (1868-1923) m 1886, Henry Franklin Monroe ("Bunk") HOOD (1849-1916);; mcht, and farmer, Clarksdale, Miss; Issue: oscar Monroe (above), Agnes Lorrender b 1889, Nona Elizabeth b 1891 m 1917 John Cl Kelley, Jr, Malcolm Henry b 1893; alice Ehteh b 1896 m Maj. Richard N. WARE, Jr, WW vet. Descendants of James HOOD 1 James HOOD b: 1785 nr. Belfast, Ireland; as a boy to Darlington, SC d: 1830 Miss; lived in Knox CO, TN .. +Rachel COUZENS b: 1797 m: 1813 d: 1826 . 2 Jesse Fox HOOD b: 1825 d: 1863 ...... +Elizabeth STRONG b: 1833 m: 1848 d: 1907 ..... 3 Henry Franklim Monroe HOOD b: 1849

Hey Dan Thanks for that list of old occupations. I printed out a copy and am taking it to the LDS FHC where I volunteer. Regards Bonnie in Idaho

Congrats to Dan Burrows for compiling this and thinking of the Lists by giving his permission to send this to other Lists! This is worth printing out & keeping!! - Shirley Old Occupations Accomptant Accountant Almoner Giver of charity to the needy Amanuensis Secretary or stenographer Artificer A soldier mechanic who does repairs Bailie Bailiff Baxter Baker Bluestocking Female writer Boniface Keeper of an inn Brazier One who works with brass Brewster Beer manufacturer Brightsmith Metal Worker Burgonmaster Mayor Caulker One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or seems to make them watertight by using tar or oakum-hem fiber produced by taking old ropes apart Chaisemaker Carriage maker Chandler Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles; retailer of groceries, ship supplier Chiffonnier Wig maker Clark Clerk Clerk Clergyman, cleric Clicker The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to invite customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the compositors and arranged it in due form ready for printing; one who makes eyelet holes in boots using a machine which clicked. Cohen Priest Collier Coal miner Colporteur Peddler of books Cooper One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves & hoops, such as casks, barrels, tubs, etc. Cordwainer Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather from Cordova/Cordoba in Spain Costermonger Peddler of fruits and vegetables Crocker Potter Crowner Coroner Currier One who dresses the coat of a horse with a currycomb; one who tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease Docker Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo Dowser One who finds water using a rod or witching stick Draper A dealer in dry goods Drayman One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides for carrying heavy loads Dresser A surgeon's assistant in a hospital Drover One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market; a dealer in cattle Duffer Peddler Factor Agent, commission merchant; one who acts or transacts business for another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate Farrier A blacksmith, one who shoes horses Faulkner Falconer Fell monger One who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for leather making Fletcher One who made bows and arrows Fuller One who fulls cloth;one who shrinks and thickens woolen cloth by moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans and finishes cloth Gaoler A keeper of the goal, a jailer Glazier Window glassman Hacker Maker of hoes Hatcheler One who combed out or carded flax Haymonger Dealer in hay Hayward Keeper of fences Higgler Itinerant peddler Hillier Roof tiler Hind A farm laborer Holster A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn Hooker Reaper Hooper One who made hoops for casks and barrels Huckster Sells small wares Husbandman A farmer who cultivated the land Jagger Fish peddler Journeyman One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered his craft, not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day Joyner / Joiner A skilled carpenter Keeler Bargeman Kempster Wool comber Lardner Keeper of the cupboard Lavender Washer woman Lederer Leather maker Leech Physician Longshoreman Stevedore Lormer Maker of horse gear Malender Farmer Maltster Brewer Manciple A steward Mason Bricklayer Mintmaster One who issued local currency Monger Seller of goods (ale, fish) Muleskinner Teamster Neatherder Herds cows Ordinary Keeper Innkeeper with fixed prices Pattern Maker A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog was a wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end Peregrinator Itinerant wanderer Peruker A wig maker Pettifogger A shyster lawyer Pigman Crockery dealer Plumber One who applied sheet lead for roofing and set lead frames for plain or stained glass windows. Porter Door keeper Puddler Wrought iron worker Quarrier Quarry worker Rigger Hoist tackle worker Ripper Seller of fish Roper Maker of rope or nets Saddler One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other furnishings for horses Sawbones Physician Sawyer One who saws; carpenter Schumacker Shoemaker Scribler A minor or worthless author Scrivener Professional or public copyist or writer; notary public Scrutiner Election judge Shrieve Sheriff Slater Roofer Slopseller Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop Snobscat / Snob One who repaired shoes Sorter Tailor Spinster A woman who spins or an unmarried woman Spurrer Maker of spurs Squire Country gentleman; farm owner; justice of peace Stuff gown Junior barrister Stuff gownsman Junior barrister Supercargo Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and the commercial concerns of the ship. Tanner One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather Tapley One who puts the tap in an ale cask Tasker Reaper Teamster One who drives a team for hauling Thatcher Roofer Tide waiter Customs inspector Tinker Am itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman Tipstaff Policeman Travers Toll bridge collection Tucker Cleaner of cloth goods Turner A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles Victualer A tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or ship with food Vulcan Blacksmith Wagoner Teamster not for hire Wainwright Wagon maker Waiter Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the tide to collect duty on goods brought in. Waterman Boatman who plies for hire Webster Operator of looms Wharfinger Owner of a wharf Wheelwright One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages,etc. Whitesmith Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the work Whitewing Street sweeper Whitster Bleach of cloth Wright Workman, especially a construction worker Yeoman Farmer who owns his own land

I received this today from another researcher. The following web prepared by Rick Brown includes background for several Tennessee Bogart related families in both East and Middle Tenn. Several link to Tennessee including Samuel and Isaac who link to East Tenn. The web site of Rick Brown's is: www.bright.net/~rbrown Rick has done an excellent job. Many thanks to him! Leota

Hi Milly, I am in Nashville and get to the Archives off and on. Will call and find out. I think the Archives would have it. I will check and let you know. Sandra [email protected] wrote: > > Part 1.1Type: Microsoft MHTML Document 4.0 (message/rfc822) > > Part 1.2Type: Microsoft MHTML Document 4.0 (message/rfc822) > > Part 1.3Type: Microsoft MHTML Document 4.0 (message/rfc822) > > Part 1.4Type: Microsoft MHTML Document 4.0 (message/rfc822)

I am so sorry, I went to get my marriage books, and they are not here. I must have leant them to a cousin, and she has them. I will keep your message and I will check when I get them back, if you have not already found the information. Again, I am sorry. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "RChory" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [TNROANE] Marriage Records... > Hi Linda, > > If you're willing to check your marriage records, I would love to find > information on Nancy WEBB (1809-1900) m. 22 Oct 1829 to Francis J. BALDWIN > (1803-1846) in Roane County. I would like to verify the date and also find > parents' names. > > Thank you, > Ann > ---------- > >I have some marriage records from Roane Co., > >TN > > > >Linda > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > Folks like you pay the bills to keep RootsWeb running! If you've > found this list useful in your research and want to express your thanks, > consider becoming a RootsWeb Donor: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Milly, The only Bain's in the 1920 Census, Rockwood, lists: Edward, Sarah E. and a William B. No Cora is with them. There are also Bane's in 1920 Census, for South of the River and Barnardsville and they are: Bud and Joe, also no Cora listed. In the 1920 Census for South of the River and Barnardsville is: Ward, Jay H.; head; m; w; 37; m1; 17; TN; TN;TN; Merchant; Dry goods Lizzie, wife; f; w; 36; m1; 17; 9-7; TN; TN; TN; None May, dau.; f; w; 14; s; TN; TN; TN; Laborer Dewy, son; m; w; 12; s; TN; TN; TN; None Minnie, dau.; f; w; 10; s; TN; TN; TN; None Robert, son; m; w; 7; s; TN; TN; TN; None Corah, dau; f; w; 5; s; TN; TN; TN; None Rubin, son; m; w; 3; s; TN; TN; TN; None William, son; m; w; 1; s; Tn; TN; TN; None Milly, this is all that I could find. However, there is another 1910 Census book for Roane Co., which I did not purchase, and I don't remember what area it was for. I have the 1910 Census book for South of the River and Barnardsville, Kingston and Harriman. Sorry that I was not much help. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [TNROANE] Marriage Records... > Linda , > > I'm looking for a cretificate for Henry Ward and Mary Bain married 7-25-1896 > in Roane Co..I have the info ..I want the certificate or copy.. > Henry was my Grandpa and Mary was his first wife. Now if I could find an obit > for her . I found my grandpa living 1900 in Roane Co with his brother-in law, > BAIN Joseph b:12-1872 age 27~ > Elizabeth b:10-1882 17 wife > Elizabeth b:3-1832 68 mother > WARD Henry b:2-1876 24 bro in law widowed > John (believe he went by the name of Frank ,later)7-1897 2 nephew > Cora Lee b:3-1900 2/12 niece > > I really think Mary died giving birth to Cora Lee Ward.....But, I have no > idea where or what happened to Cora Lee...That is the year and month Frank > was born..He died later..1918 > > Does anyone have the census for 1910 and 1920 for Roane Co..Maybe Joseph and > Elizabeth raised Cora Lee... > > Thanks > Milly^i^ > > I'm up a Tree out on a Limb....reaching for Branches...and all I have found > is Twigs...and each has a few Nuts on them.... > > OWENS~WARD~WELCH~WORLEY~ROSENBAUM~BYRGE~ > RANDOLPH~FLETCHER~DELK~PATTON~MILLER~CRABTREE~ > VANHUSS~WATMOUGH~WILLS~PIROS~MINTON~CHANCE~~~CLARKSON~IVEY~ > > > ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb Archives for Tennessee: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/tnfiles.htm > >