This message is for you Luebkel, I have Sarah Catherine Rice was the daughter of Francis Marion Rice and Susannah Lee. Francis Marion was born cir January 1833 in White County. Francis Marion was the son of John A. Rice and Sarah Jane Howell. John A. was born cir 1812 in the White County area. John A. Rice was the son of William B. Rice, Sr. and Eleanor. William B. Rice, Sr. was born most likely in North Carolina. I didn't recognize the Judd and LaFever names that you sent me. Its possible I have their parents on my list and have not yet made the connection to their children. Hope this helps. CJMann