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    1. RE: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again!
    2. leuwanna willams

    3. thank you for the info, I was looking for information back in the early 1800, for the McDonalds, thought there might be some connection. lawanna -----Original Message----- From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! The McDonald's own all the land around the church. There are been three different churches there. I went with my grandparents to the first old white weatherboard house. It was eventually torn down for a new brick house. The new house was destroyed in a tornado back in 1974 as I recall. It has since been rebuilt. The congregation split I think and it is as small as it was 30 years ago. I would guess the church goes back to about 1900. Gary > From: "leuwanna willams" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:21:45 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:22:18 -0600 > > Gary > do you know the history of the McDonald Church, it's name and how long > there. > thank you > lawanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! > > > I just haven't found the connection in the Livingston newspapers. There > were Wrights living around McDonald's Chapel and Wirmingham. I think the > Bertrams lived behind McDonald's Chapel Church many years ago. That might > be the connection. I think the Wrights in the area were cartwrights. > > Gary D. Norris > > > >> From: "Anna L Bertram" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:55:58 -0700 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! >> Resent-From: [email protected] >> Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:59:42 -0600 >> >> Gary, >> >> As usual you are a big help! Thank you! >> >> Milly Piros also responded with some old newspaper URLs. The Senator was > Elza >> E. BERTRAM (1868 - 1953), son of Rev. Alvin BERTRAM and Rosannah B. YOUNG. > He >> was married to Maggie BALLENGER. My husband was his 1st cousin, twice > removed, >> according to Family Tree Maker. You know I research all the BERTRAMS, > BUTRAMS, >> etc., regardless of which branch. >> >> Still looking for the identity of the Mr. WRIGHT from Overton Co., TN who > was >> visiting Senator Elza E. BERTRAM in Clinton Co., KY in 1933. >> >> Sincerely, Anna BERTRAM >> >> [email protected] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Norris, Gary >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:15 AM >> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM >> >> >> Anna, >> >> Tennessee has what is called a Blue Book concerning the state history and >> its people. I wonder if Kentucky would have the same thing. You might > try >> the state archive in Frankfort. >> >> Remind me again in a day or so and I will check my database. >> >> Gary D. Norris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anna L Bertram [SMTP:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:20 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM >> >> Hi! >> >> Found this in the RootsWeb Archives from the Monticello, Wayne Co., >> KY newspaper.. Can anyone tell me who this Mr WRIGHT of Overton Co., TN > was >> who was visiting his cousin, Mr. BERTRAM, a KY State Senator living in >> Clinton Co., KY in 1833? Or which Mr. BERTRAM living in Clinton Co., KY in >> 1933 was a KY State Senator? Or any suggestions on how I can find this >> information? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Anna BERTRAM >> [email protected] >> >> >> > ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` >> `````````````````````````````````````` >> >> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/adair/news/1933may.txt >> >> Wayne County Outlook, Wayne County KY 18-May-1933 >> >> Submitted by: "Nancy Trice" [email protected] >> Date of Submission: 29-July-2001 >> Source: Wayne County Outlook, Monticello KY 18-May-1933, as >> submitted by, >> Larry and Laura Wright [email protected] to >> [email protected] >> >> 60 Killed in Cyclone. During the storm last Tuesday night a tornado >> swept thru >> this section of Kentucky and northern Tennessee killing 60 people >> injuring many >> and destroying many homes and other property. 19 were killed near >> Russell >> Springs, 16 at Thompkinsville, 2 in Adair County and 22 in Overton >> and Wilson >> Counties TN. This County had a heavy wind rain and electric storm, >> but no damage >> was done. >> >> *A Mr. WRIGHT, of Overton County, was here last week to visit his >> cousin Senator BERTRAM and reported the scenes at BEATTY's swamp as beyond >> description. His parents old home, built of large logs over 100 years ago >> and a large log barn were blown to bits, the house was blown north and the >> barn south showing the whirl of the wind. >> >> The following is the list of the reported dead. >> >> RUSSELL County: Mr. and Mrs. GEORGE GRIDER, Mrs. AMBROSE SMITH and >> daughter, >> Mrs. NATHAN BLANKENSHIP, H. HOFFLEY, WILLORD MEECE, HERMAN BROWN, >> Miss BROWN, >> baby of Mrs. ALEX REXROAT, CHARLES McELROY, J.M. LUTTRELL, >> nine-year-old son of >> HETTY RICHARDSON, and Mrs. RUTH HOLSELL. >> >> MONROE County: Rev. ROY REDFORD, age 22; Mrs. ROY REDFORD, age 20; >> BILLY REDFORD, age 3; infant REDFORD; Mrs. TRAVIS TYREE, 20 and two >> children; >> Mrs. JAMES COULTER; W.F. ANDERSON; MARNIE MAXEY, colored; WILLIAM >> BAILEY, >> colored; MIAMI FRAIN, colored; CLARA HAMILTON; ANNA CRAIG; >> and two unidentified colored girls. >> >> ADAIR County: ROBERT DUVALL, age 5; BESSIE JONES, Colored. >> >> OVERTON County: Mrs. GEORGE REESER, 68; EDGAR HOPKINS, 35; BARBARA >> HOPKINS, 35; >> RAY RAGAN; Mrs. AMBROSE KING; Miss EPSIE KING, 22; BOSS LACY, 30; >> HERSCHAL PHILLIPS; MILLER ALLRED,60; Mr. and Mrs. UNA COLE 40 and 35 >> and their >> 7 children. >> >> WILSON County TN: ED and KATE JAMES, colored. >> >> >> *********************************************************************** >> USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free >> information on the Internet, data may be freely used by >> non-commercial >> entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. >> These >> electronic pages cannot be reproduced in any format for profit or >> other >> presentation. Commercial entities must ask for and receive >> permission >> from submitter before downloading. >> >> *********************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: >> [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >> TOT: [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >> TOT: [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES > TOT: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    08/25/2003 02:28:49
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] McDonald, Sevier, Knight
    2. Gary Norris

    3. I think John Colin McDonald was one of the first McDonalds in Overton County. I believe I picked him up on a travel journal kept by Governor John Sevier around 1800. The governor stayed at his house more than once. It was said they were old friends from the days of the battle at Kings Mountain, North Carolina. I got my information from a book by George Allen Knight. The title is "Our Wounderful Overton County Heritage." The Knights were descendants of the Seviers. Gary D. Norris > From: "leuwanna willams" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:28:49 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:29:06 -0600 > > thank you for the info, I was looking for information back in the early > 1800, for the McDonalds, thought there might be some connection. > lawanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! > > > The McDonald's own all the land around the church. There are been three > different churches there. I went with my grandparents to the first old > white weatherboard house. It was eventually torn down for a new brick house. > The new house was destroyed in a tornado back in 1974 as I recall. It has > since been rebuilt. The congregation split I think and it is as small as it > was 30 years ago. I would guess the church goes back to about 1900. > > Gary > >> From: "leuwanna willams" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:21:45 -0700 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! >> Resent-From: [email protected] >> Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:22:18 -0600 >> >> Gary >> do you know the history of the McDonald Church, it's name and how long >> there. >> thank you >> lawanna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:16 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! >> >> >> I just haven't found the connection in the Livingston newspapers. There >> were Wrights living around McDonald's Chapel and Wirmingham. I think the >> Bertrams lived behind McDonald's Chapel Church many years ago. That might >> be the connection. I think the Wrights in the area were cartwrights. >> >> Gary D. Norris >> >> >> >>> From: "Anna L Bertram" <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:55:58 -0700 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM, again! >>> Resent-From: [email protected] >>> Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:59:42 -0600 >>> >>> Gary, >>> >>> As usual you are a big help! Thank you! >>> >>> Milly Piros also responded with some old newspaper URLs. The Senator was >> Elza >>> E. BERTRAM (1868 - 1953), son of Rev. Alvin BERTRAM and Rosannah B. > YOUNG. >> He >>> was married to Maggie BALLENGER. My husband was his 1st cousin, twice >> removed, >>> according to Family Tree Maker. You know I research all the BERTRAMS, >> BUTRAMS, >>> etc., regardless of which branch. >>> >>> Still looking for the identity of the Mr. WRIGHT from Overton Co., TN who >> was >>> visiting Senator Elza E. BERTRAM in Clinton Co., KY in 1933. >>> >>> Sincerely, Anna BERTRAM >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Norris, Gary >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:15 AM >>> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM >>> >>> >>> Anna, >>> >>> Tennessee has what is called a Blue Book concerning the state history and >>> its people. I wonder if Kentucky would have the same thing. You might >> try >>> the state archive in Frankfort. >>> >>> Remind me again in a day or so and I will check my database. >>> >>> Gary D. Norris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Anna L Bertram [SMTP:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:20 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] WRIGHT, BERTRAM >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Found this in the RootsWeb Archives from the Monticello, Wayne Co., >>> KY newspaper.. Can anyone tell me who this Mr WRIGHT of Overton Co., TN >> was >>> who was visiting his cousin, Mr. BERTRAM, a KY State Senator living in >>> Clinton Co., KY in 1833? Or which Mr. BERTRAM living in Clinton Co., KY > in >>> 1933 was a KY State Senator? Or any suggestions on how I can find this >>> information? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Anna BERTRAM >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >> > ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` >>> `````````````````````````````````````` >>> >>> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/adair/news/1933may.txt >>> >>> Wayne County Outlook, Wayne County KY 18-May-1933 >>> >>> Submitted by: "Nancy Trice" [email protected] >>> Date of Submission: 29-July-2001 >>> Source: Wayne County Outlook, Monticello KY 18-May-1933, as >>> submitted by, >>> Larry and Laura Wright [email protected] to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> 60 Killed in Cyclone. During the storm last Tuesday night a tornado >>> swept thru >>> this section of Kentucky and northern Tennessee killing 60 people >>> injuring many >>> and destroying many homes and other property. 19 were killed near >>> Russell >>> Springs, 16 at Thompkinsville, 2 in Adair County and 22 in Overton >>> and Wilson >>> Counties TN. This County had a heavy wind rain and electric storm, >>> but no damage >>> was done. >>> >>> *A Mr. WRIGHT, of Overton County, was here last week to visit his >>> cousin Senator BERTRAM and reported the scenes at BEATTY's swamp as > beyond >>> description. His parents old home, built of large logs over 100 years ago >>> and a large log barn were blown to bits, the house was blown north and > the >>> barn south showing the whirl of the wind. >>> >>> The following is the list of the reported dead. >>> >>> RUSSELL County: Mr. and Mrs. GEORGE GRIDER, Mrs. AMBROSE SMITH and >>> daughter, >>> Mrs. NATHAN BLANKENSHIP, H. HOFFLEY, WILLORD MEECE, HERMAN BROWN, >>> Miss BROWN, >>> baby of Mrs. ALEX REXROAT, CHARLES McELROY, J.M. LUTTRELL, >>> nine-year-old son of >>> HETTY RICHARDSON, and Mrs. RUTH HOLSELL. >>> >>> MONROE County: Rev. ROY REDFORD, age 22; Mrs. ROY REDFORD, age 20; >>> BILLY REDFORD, age 3; infant REDFORD; Mrs. TRAVIS TYREE, 20 and two >>> children; >>> Mrs. JAMES COULTER; W.F. ANDERSON; MARNIE MAXEY, colored; WILLIAM >>> BAILEY, >>> colored; MIAMI FRAIN, colored; CLARA HAMILTON; ANNA CRAIG; >>> and two unidentified colored girls. >>> >>> ADAIR County: ROBERT DUVALL, age 5; BESSIE JONES, Colored. >>> >>> OVERTON County: Mrs. GEORGE REESER, 68; EDGAR HOPKINS, 35; BARBARA >>> HOPKINS, 35; >>> RAY RAGAN; Mrs. AMBROSE KING; Miss EPSIE KING, 22; BOSS LACY, 30; >>> HERSCHAL PHILLIPS; MILLER ALLRED,60; Mr. and Mrs. UNA COLE 40 and 35 >>> and their >>> 7 children. >>> >>> WILSON County TN: ED and KATE JAMES, colored. >>> >>> >>> *********************************************************************** >>> USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free >>> information on the Internet, data may be freely used by >>> non-commercial >>> entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. >>> These >>> electronic pages cannot be reproduced in any format for profit or >>> other >>> presentation. Commercial entities must ask for and receive >>> permission >>> from submitter before downloading. >>> >>> *********************************************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ============================== >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>> records, go to: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >>> TOT: [email protected] >>> >>> ============================== >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> go >>> to: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >>> TOT: [email protected] >>> >>> ============================== >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> go >>> to: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >> TOT: [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: >> [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    08/26/2003 02:12:43