Louanne, In regards to Creed Garrett, unfortunately I cannot produce definite proof that Creed was s/o Joshua instead of Elijah. If I had made mention in an earlier e-mail that Creed was s/o Elijah then I apologize for the mistake & I would have to say that is likey incorrect. What I do have are "circumstantial evidence" based on "process of elimination" mostly from Census info. What I meant by "sons accounted for" was that Elijah Garrott had ONLY 2 sons born 1802-1810 according to 1820 census, same time frame that of Creed & Joshua. We know these 2 sons to be Stephen b. 1802/03 & the other Elijah Jr born 1 Nov 1806. The remaider of his Elijahs younger sons were born after 1810 beginning with Shadrack b 1809/10 (4 males b. 1810 -1820) The other 3 were Wm Pleasant born abt 1814, John B. b. 10 Oct 1817, & Thomas b. 1819/20. In this I have "accounted" for Elijahs sons born in the time frame mentioned above & cannot see how Joshua or Creed could fit into Elijahs HH. Joshua (Sr) does have 2 males b. 1802-1804. This time frame fits with both Joshua b. 1802/03 & Creed b. 1804/05. I also said that I thought likely Loderick may be s/o Elijah. I looked back through my note to confirm, but seen that I have Loderick as the s/o Joshua. He is likely the male b. 1804-1810 (b. 1810/11). Also as you probably know Loderick had a son named CREED. The other male b. 1810-1820 is likely Spotwood b. 1814. Hence, the "process of elimination". Also note in 1830 (pg 178) Joshua Garrott (Sr) is nearby on the same pg with Joshua (Jr), Loderick, & David (another son b. abt 1798). We see that Joshua now has only 1 male b. 1820-30 (unknown), but where is Creed? His name does not appear in 1830. I checked Elijahs HH in 1830 pg 202. 1 male 1810-1815 is likely Shadrack b. 189/10. the others were born after 1815. So Creed is not here either. However, I do see a male b. 1800-1810, age 20-30 in HH of David who is nearby Joshua (Sr) in 1830. Who is this? He cannot be a son of David. David does not have children until after 1820. This male does NOT show up in Davids 1820 HH. As a matter of fact David has no children in 1820, so apparently just married. Could this be Creed b. 1804/05 with possible brother David? Again, I have no actual or definite proof, just "reasonable evidence" based on the info discussed above, I have done work in VA on our Garrett line & plan to go back next year & pick up where I left with additional info. If you have questions, I will try & answer. Any feedback most welcomed! BTW I am not the man from IN who put out a book of Garretts. I think you are thinking of Ronald Garrett from Port Royal, IN. He has written & published a book. I have not seen it as of yet. Regards