Gary, Thank you so much. -- Researching: Durham, Troxtel, Smith, Richards, Hammock, Warren > Vickie, > > The children of John Brown and Judea Stout were: > > Louisa born about 1846. I know very little about this child. > Susan Ann "Susann" born September 1, 1849. > Albert Center "Center" born April 5, 1850. > Simeon Eli "Sim" born November 1, 1852. > Mary Ann "Pop" born December 23, 1852. > Payton "Pate" born about 1854. > William Harding "Billy" born about 1855. > > Please note that some of the birth dates were impossible. The dates were > taken from their tombstones, but the dates had to be wrong for Simeon Eli > and Mary Ann. Likewise, Susan Ann and Albert Center couldn't have been > born that close to one another either. > > Payton and William Harding went to Seattle to live. They are buried there. > > Mahala Carr was buried at either beside Frank Brown or at the foot of his > grave. The stone is not inscribed. This was told to me by a child of Frank > some years ago. > > John Brown must have abandoned Mahala and Frank also because he was really > alone with he died at Alpine. > > I hope this helps. > > Gary D. Norris > > > > > From: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 03:21:47 +0000 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] John Brown > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:21:44 -0600 > > > > Gary, Thank you so much. Frank Brown was my husbands great grandfather. The > > family thinks that John Brown and Mahaly were never married. I found Mahaly > > Brown on the 1860 census with Lorenzo and Frank but no John. In fact I > > haven't found John Brown on any census in Overton Co. Can you give me the > > names of John and Judea Browns children? I found in one of the Roll Call > > books that Frank was half brother to Simeon. I have been to Old Union where > > Frank was buried and did not find Mahaly's grave. Any clues on the parents of > > John Brown? Thanking you again for your help. Vickie > > > > -- > > Researching: Durham, Troxtel, > > Smith, Richards, Hammock, Warren > >> Vicky, > >> > >> John Brown and Judea Stout married in the late 1840's. They had about 6 > >> children before John left Judy for Mahala Carr around 1860. Mahala and John > >> were supposed to have moved "up North". John and Mahala had one son, Frank. > >> Frank is buried at Old Union Cemetery and I think Mahala is buried either > >> beside him or at his feet. > >> > >> John Brown came back to stay with his children in the Alpine area when he > >> was an old man. He was homeless and filthy. Whomever he stayed with, he > >> left them with body lice. John Brown was sitting on the porch listing to a > >> Tom Norris play a fiddle when John died of what was probably a stroke. He > >> was buried in the John Vaughn Cemetery at Brown's Chapel. His grave was not > >> marked. > >> > >> Years later two of my uncles were told to go to the John Vaughn Cemetery and > >> dig a grave for Judea Brown in 1913. They dug into a coffin in an > >> unexpected grave. After checking around the community, it was decided that > >> the boys dug into their grandpa's grave. They hurriedly filled the grave > >> back in and buried Judea Stout Brown in another spot. To this day the grave > >> of John Brown is still unmarked. I guess his body is truly "moldering in > >> the grave"! > >> > >> Gary D. Norris > >> > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 02:01:59 +0000 > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] John Brown > >>> Resent-From: [email protected] > >>> Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:01:56 -0600 > >>> > >>> Gary, I'm looking for info on John Brown who married Mahaly Carr. Do you > >>> have anything you could share on this family? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Researching: Durham, Troxtel, > >>> Smith, Richards, Hammock, Warren > >>>> Bob, > >>>> > >>>> My John Brown was born in Kentucky in 1825. He died in Overton County > >>>> before 1900. He was married to Judea Stout and later Mahala Carr. Brown's > >>>> Chapel east of Alpine is named after one of John and Judea's sons. > >>>> > >>>> I do not believe our Johns are the same, but I just wanted you to put this > >>>> up for future reference if necessary. > >>>> > >>>> Gary D. Norris > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: "Bob Brown" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>>>> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:23:00 -0400 > >>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] John S. Brown > >>>>> Resent-From: [email protected] > >>>>> Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:22:32 -0600 > >>>>> > >>>>> My 2nd ggrandfather is John S. Brown. He and his wife Ann were living in > >>>>> Overton County When my ggrandfather, Austin Curtis Brown, was born on 5 > >>>>> Aug > >>>>> 1820. My John S. Brown and his brother Jacob Brown were in Caldwell > >>>>> County, > >>>>> KY, by 1825 where they appear on a tax list. Jacob was dead by 1828 as > >>>>> John > >>>>> S. was administrator of his estate. The only John S. Brown I find in the > >>>>> 1820 > >>>>> Overton County census is listed next to Sarah S.(Sevier?) Brown. Sarah > >>>>> was > >>>>> the widow of Judge Benjamin Brown and their children include a John S. > >>>>> Brown > >>>>> and a Jacob Brown. I feel that my John S. Brown and the John S. Brown, > >>>>> son > >>>>> of > >>>>> Benjamin and Sarah, are the same person but have found no direct evidence. > >>>>> Can anyone help me? > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob Brown > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >>>>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> ============================== > >>>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >>>>> go > >>>>> to: > >>>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >>>> WATCH YOUR SUBJECT LINES > >>>> Many subscriber Delete a > >>>> message based on subject > >>>> lines. 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