Betty, Yep, that is the right Moses. You are right about Moses' land. He had a lot of land. Unfortunately, most of it was vertical. Hard to farm on the sides of a mountain. I still own some of his original farm that was passed from son to son. The name Laborn is seen spelled a variety of ways. It appears to originate as Laban in the bible, since Moses seemed to use the good book as a source for names for his many children, but I suspect a hill-country North Carolina accent would turn it in to Laborn. In any case, to get to Columbia Hill from Monterey requires driving on a ridge called Laborn's Backbone. On both sides of the back bone was Moses Phillips land. Fortunately, Laborn is a rare name, so searching for him on-line helps me find my Moses Phillips line quickly. I'd love to hear the story of how John Calvin Brown was really a Phillips. I have a similar situation on my mother's side. You can email me direct if you'd prefer at [email protected] BTW, my grandfather once said that the Sisco's were indian. Have you ever heard that? Finally, I remember the following from when I was a child. Moses did have a second wife but I heard her name was Linda. Ely was their only child. Supposedly Linda was Cherokee. I could be wrong. Ron At 03:06 PM 11/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Ron. >I am a descendent of Mary "Polly" Phillips , daughter of Moses..Polly >married John Calvin Brown. My information may be wrong (other than the info >about Polly and John Calvin ). > >this is what I have. Please let me know if it is incorrect. > >Moses Phillips b. 1786 in Rowen Co.,NC. He died 10-02-1877 in Overton >Co.,TN. He m. Sarah Pitts. >Moses was a prosperous land owner. He owned over 3000 acres in Overton Co. >His children were over 50 years apart in age. when his first wife died he >married a young girl named Nancy. she had 2 children by Moses. > >Children of Moses and Sarah Pitts: > >George,b. 1804 NC >Margaret "Peggy" ,b. 1806 NC >Spencer,b. 1806 NC >Levi ,b. 1810 NC >Ely, b. 1812 NC >Moses, b. 1814 NC >William, b. 1814 >Jonas, b. 1820 TN >Reuben,b. 1823 TN >Malinda,b. 1823 TN >Labren, b. 1827 TN >Mary "Pollyanna" ,b. 4-6-1827 TN died June 20, 1916 >Tillman ,b. 1829 TN >Alfred ,b. 1830 TN >Elvira ,b. 1831 TN >John ,b. 1833 TN >Nancy, b. 1834 TN > >Polly married John Calvin Brown (although he was really a Phillips. I have a >letter from his grandson explaining ) > >Children of Calvin & Polly: > >(1) Malinda who m. John Beasley >(2)Pernilla ,m. Ed Sisco >(3)Tillman, m. Millie Young >(4)Levi >(5)Elvira,m.Robert Balaam Neely , one of their daughters was Malinda Donzie >Neely who married John Calvin Ashburn and one of their daughters, Willie Mae >was my Mother >(6)James Frances ,m. Mary Elizabeth Miller > >Do i have the same "Moses" as you? >Thanks, Ron >Betty > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ron" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:56 AM >Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Moses & Laborn > > > > > > > > > >How does Laborn (born 1828) who married Lucinda Key fit in with Old Mose? > > >A brother or son? > > > > > >And, Ron, could you give us some spouses to all the Phillips men that you > > >descend from? > > > > > > > > > > > >Bobbie > > > > > > I thought you'd never ask. I'll include the full latest six generations, > > because it might be useful for others in Overton County. I assume the > > formatting will be tolerable. This is lengthy so I hope it doesn't violate > > any group rules. > > > > Any corrections or additions will be gratefully appreciated. > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. Dalous Jerry Phillips, born March 08, 1922 in Overton County, TN; died > > June 06, 1989 in Cookeville, Putnam Co, TN. He was the son of 2. Elvin > > Curtis Phillips and 3. Nancy Ann Phillips. He married (1) Elise Marie > > Miller June 1941 in Overton Co Tennessee. She was born February 28, 1923 >in > > Monterey, Putnam Co., TN. She was the daughter of George Clay Miller and > > Violet Silvira Simcox. He married (2) Brenda Eby March 21, 1977 in >Florida. > > She was born August 24, 1939. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. Elvin Curtis Phillips, born January 02, 1898 in Thompson Flat, Overton > > Co., TN. He was the son of 4. Jeremiah Moses Phillips and 5. Rebecca Ellen > > Ramsey. He married 3. Nancy Ann Phillips November 23, 1919 in Columbia > > Hill, Overton Co., TN. > > 3. Nancy Ann Phillips, born December 13, 1899 in Overton County, TN. She > > was the daughter of 6. James Willis Phillips and 7. Amanda Isabelle >Copeland. > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > 4. Jeremiah Moses Phillips, born October 23, 1865 in Overton County, TN; > > died June 20, 1948 in Overton Co TN. He was the son of 8. Moses Phillips > > and 9. Artemia Beaty. He married 5. Rebecca Ellen Ramsey 1886. > > 5. Rebecca Ellen Ramsey, born May 15, 1866 in Overton County, TN; died > > April 15, 1923 in Crawford, Overton County, TN. She was the daughter of >10. > > William Jason Ramsey and 11. Elizabeth C. French. > > > > 6. James Willis Phillips, born June 20, 1875 in Overton County, TN; died > > October 12, 1963 in Overton Co TN. He was the son of 12. Jasper Phillips > > and 13. Nancy Pitts. He married 7. Amanda Isabelle Copeland April 08, 1894 > > in Overton Co Tennessee by Rev. A. W. Norrod. > > 7. Amanda Isabelle Copeland, born October 29, 1876 in Overton Co TN; died > > May 27, 1956 in Overton Co TN. She was the daughter of 14. Fredric Francis > > Marion Copeland and 15. Rebecca Wilson. > > > > Generation No. 4 > > > > 8. Moses Phillips, born November 23, 1836 in Overton County, TN; died > > December 14, 1917 in Overton Co TN. He was the son of 16. George Phillips > > and 17. Rebecca Thompson. He married 9. Artemia Beaty 1860. > > 9. Artemia Beaty, born February 01, 1833 in TN; died October 03, 1917 in > > TN. She was the daughter of 18. David Beaty, Sr and 19. Sarah Stephens. > > > > 10. William Jason Ramsey, born April 12, 1838 in Overton, White or Morgan > > Co., TN; died July 21, 1903 in Calfkiller River, TN. He was the son of 20. > > Benjamin Ramsey and 21. Ellender Dishman. He married 11. Elizabeth C. > > French April 26, 1857 in Overton County, TN. > > 11. Elizabeth C. French, born March 09, 1838 in Overton Co TN; died April > > 01, 1932 in Overton County, TN. She was the daughter of 22. Martin Luther > > French and 23. Judith Bowman. > > > > 12. Jasper Phillips, born March 05, 1840; died February 27, 1927. He was > > the son of 24. William Phillips and 25. Elisabeth. He married 13. Nancy >Pitts. > > 13. Nancy Pitts, born March 11, 1841; died March 28, 1896. She was the > > daughter of 26. William Pitts and 27. Sarah. > > > > 14. Fredric Francis Marion Copeland, born September 04, 1843 in Overton Co > > tn; died January 20, 1928 in Overton Co tn. He was the son of 28. Philip > > Copeland and 29. Obedience Cox. He married 15. Rebecca Wilson February 05, > > 1863 in Overton Co. , Tenn.. > > 15. Rebecca Wilson, born June 06, 1844 in Overton Co. , Tenn.; died > > December 18, 1928 in Overton Co. , Tenn.. She was the daughter of 30. >Moses > > Wilson and 31. Celia Hayes. > > > > Generation No. 5 > > > > 16. George Phillips, born 1803 in North Carolina. He was the son of 32. > > Moses Phillips and 33. Sarah Pitts. He married 17. Rebecca Thompson Abt. >1829. > > 17. Rebecca Thompson, born 1807 in North Carolina or VA. > > > > 18. David Beaty, Sr, born 1783 in PA; died WFT Est. 1834-1875. He was the > > son of 36. John Beaty, Sr. and 37. Margaret Montgomery. He married 19. > > Sarah Stephens WFT Est. 1803-1833. > > 19. Sarah Stephens, born 1790 in NC; died WFT Est. 1835-1885. She was the > > daughter of 38. Thomas Granser Stephens and 39. Sarah Miller. > > > > 20. Benjamin Ramsey, born June 14, 1811 in Overton Co TN; died February >11, > > 1891 in Livingston, Overton Co TN. He was the son of 40. William Thomas > > Ramsey and 41. Catherine Gray. He married 21. Ellender Dishman Abt. 1832 >in > > Morgan County, TN. > > 21. Ellender Dishman, born September 27, 1814 in TN; died October 14, 1876 > > in Livingston, Overton County, TN. She was the daughter of 42. Jefferson > > Dishman and 43. Lydia Upchurch. > > > > 22. Martin Luther French, born January 06, 1807 in TN; died November 11, > > 1898 in Overton Co TN. He was the son of 44. Josiah French and 45. Judah > > Smith. He married 23. Judith Bowman January 01, 1829 in TN. > > 23. Judith Bowman, born May 22, 1807 in TN; died April 30, 1882 in Overton > > Co TN. She was the daughter of 46. Josiah Bowman and 47. Elizabeth Allred. > > > > 24. William Phillips, born 1814. He was the son of 32. Moses Phillips and > > 33. Sarah Pitts. He married 25. Elisabeth WFT Est. 1828-1863. > > 25. Elisabeth > > > > 26. William Pitts He married 27. Sarah. > > 27. Sarah > > > > 28. Philip Copeland, born September 11, 1807 in Copeland Grove, Overton > > County, Tennessee; died June 09, 1849 in Overton County, Tennessee. He was > > the son of 56. James R. Copeland and 57. Elizabeth Swallows. He married >29. > > Obedience Cox March 06, 1828 in Overton Co TN. > > 29. Obedience Cox, born October 08, 1812 in TN; died September 06, 1899 in > > Oak Hill, Overton Co, Tn. She was the daughter of 58. Larkin Cox and 59. > > Nancy Ray. > > > > 30. Moses Wilson, born February 22, 1819 in TN; died November 22, 1896 in > > Overton Co TN. He was the son of 60. Joseph Wilson. He married 31. Celia > > Hayes November 11, 1841 in Overton Co TN. > > 31. Celia Hayes, born October 01, 1826; died December 07, 1901 in Overton > > Co. Tenn.. > > > > Generation No. 6 > > > > 32. Moses Phillips, born 1783 in Rowan Co, North Carolina; died 1877 in > > Overton Co Tennessee. He married 33. Sarah Pitts Bef. 1800 in NC. > > 33. Sarah Pitts, born 1785 in North Carolina; died in Overton Co >Tennessee. > > > > Children of Moses Phillips and Sarah Pitts are: > > i. Spencer Phillips, married Mary "Polly" Phillips WFT Est. 1824-1868; >born > > 1834 in Tennessee. > > 16 ii. George Phillips, born 1803 in North Carolina; married Rebecca > > Thompson Abt. 1829. > > iii. Elvira Phillips, born WFT Est. 1803-1830; died WFT Est. 1820-1913; > > married (1) William Johnson WFT Est. 1820-1864; born WFT Est. 1793-1829; > > died WFT Est. 1820-1907; married (2) Joseph Wilson WFT Est. 1820-1864; >born > > WFT Est. 1793-1829; died WFT Est. 1820-1907. > > iv. Ely Phillips, born WFT Est. 1803-1830; died WFT Est. 1809-1910. > > v. Elisabeth Phillips, born 1810 in North Carolina. > > vi. Levi Phillips, born 1810; died WFT Est. 1811-1900. > > 24 vii. William Phillips, born 1814; married Elisabeth WFT Est. 1828-1863. > > viii. Moses Phillips, born 1817. > > ix. John Phillips, born 1818 in NC. > > x. Jonas Phillips, born 1820 in TN; died WFT Est. 1837-1910; married >Clarey > > Pitts WFT Est. 1837-1870. > > xi. Reuben Phillips, born February 27, 1822 in Overton Co TN; died March > > 10, 1897 in Los Angeles CA; married Julina Boswell March 10, 1846 in New > > Orleans LA; born March 27, 1820 in TN; died December 25, 1900 in Los > > Angeles CA. > > xii. Malinda Phillips, born 1825 in Tennessee; died WFT Est. 1826-1919. > > xiii. Laborn Phillips, born February 07, 1827 in Overton Co Tennessee; >died > > April 29, 1911 in Overton Co Tennessee; married Lucinda Key Abt. 1846 in > > Overton Co Tennessee; born November 30, 1831 in Overton Co Tennessee; died > > June 23, 1905 in Overton County, Tennessee. > > xiv. Mary Phillips, born 1828 in Tennessee; married Philip Johnson WFT >Est. > > 1842-1875; born WFT Est. 1811-1831; died WFT Est. 1845-1917. > > xv. Tilman Phillips, born 1829 in Tennessee; married Rebecca Phillips WFT > > Est. 1846-1879; born WFT Est. 1825-1845; died WFT Est. 1846-1929. > > xvi. Alfred Phillips, born 1830 in Tennessee; died WFT Est. 1831-1920. > > xvii. John Phillips, born 1833. > > xviii. Nancy Phillips, born 1834; married C.C. Sexton WFT Est. 1844-1887; > > born WFT Est. 1818-1847; died WFT Est. 1870-1910. > > > > 36. John Beaty, Sr., born Abt. 1725 in Ireland; died Abt. 1805 in > > Washington, VA. He married 37. Margaret Montgomery WFT Est. 1740-1775. > > 37. Margaret Montgomery, born WFT Est. 1713-1739; died WFT Est. 1785-1811. > > She was the daughter of 74. Thomas Montgomery and 75. <Unnamed>. > > > > 38. Thomas Granser Stephens, born 1750 in Virginia; died Abt. 1836 in > > Fentress County, Tennessee. He was the son of 76. Joseph Stephens. He > > married 39. Sarah Miller Abt. 1776 in VA. > > 39. Sarah Miller, born March 12, 1757 in Possibly England; died 1846 in > > Fentress Co, TN. > > > > 40. William Thomas Ramsey, born September 28, 1773 in NC; died 1841 in > > Morgan County, TN. He married 41. Catherine Gray Abt. 1799 in Washington > > County, VA. > > 41. Catherine Gray, born May 21, 1778 in VA (or Ireland); died Aft. 1850 >in > > Fentress Co TN. She was the daughter of 82. Benjamin Gray and 83. Margaret > > McNail. > > > > 42. Jefferson Dishman, born 1772; died Abt. 1848 in Wayne Co Ky. He was >the > > son of 84. Thomas Dishman and 85. Kiziah Doublehead. He married 43. Lydia > > Upchurch Abt. 1803 in WAYNE CO KENTUCKY. > > 43. Lydia Upchurch, born 1782 in Brunswick Co Virginia; died 1847 in Wayne > > Co Ky. She was the daughter of 86. George Upchurch and 87. Rachel >Bethshares. > > > > 44. Josiah French, born August 1760 in Henry Co. VA; died in Overton Co, > > TN. He married 45. Judah Smith 1782. > > 45. Judah Smith, born in Union Co. SC. > > > > 46. Josiah Bowman, born 1771 in Bladen County, NC; died December 01, 1864 > > in Overton Co. , Tenn.. He was the son of 92. Josia Boman. He married 47. > > Elizabeth Allred Abt. 1789 in NC. > > 47. Elizabeth Allred, born 1771 in NC; died March 05, 1847 in Overton Co >TN. > > > > 56. James R. Copeland, born 1787 in Chatham Co. NC; died 1857 in Overton > > Co. TN. He was the son of 112. Joel Josiah Copeland and 113. Sarah Ann > > Bilbrey. He married 57. Elizabeth Swallows. > > 57. Elizabeth Swallows, born January 18, 1790 in NC; died 1857 in Overton > > Co. TN. She was the daughter of 114. Andrew Swallows and 115. Catherine >Kinder. > > > > 58. Larkin Cox, born 1780 in VA; died June 09, 1849 in Overton Co TN. He > > was the son of 116. Russell Cox, Sr and 117. Franky. He married 59. Nancy > > Ray February 24, 1806 in Henry County Va. > > 59. Nancy Ray, born Aft. 1780 in Henry Co, VA; died May 29, 1847 in >Overton > > Co TN. She was the daughter of 118. Samuel Ray. > > > > 60. 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