Need information connecting John Greer Judd to his father Robert Judd son of Rowland Judd Sr. Does any one have a bible,deeds will probate records DAR will not take the Judd Book so I am now at a stand still need help. John Greer Judd was born in Ky On the census he saids Tn (God only knows why) thanks Mary Ann

Here is a link for lou to the Family Tree DNA site. Some thigs you may want to consider: How many markers do you want tested. You can get 12, 25, 37,42 or 67. I recommend the 37 marker test. 12 is less expensive but it is only a come-on and you will need more eventually. DNA will not tell you what coutry your ancestos came from, but I suspect you know that. It will not tell you very much directly, it is throught analysis and comparison with other DNA samples of the same and different family names that most of the information is derived. If there is no existing surname DNA page for your family there will be none to comare with. But you do have the opportunity to sart a DNA page for that family name. You can go to www.ysearch.org and search by surname and see if there is another site that had SWALLOWS dna. If there is another site you may want to use a different testinf lab and post to the existing board. Here is the Family Tree Link for you; http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/conner/index.html this happens to be my family line link: Click at the top under RECRUITMENT and you will find a place to order a kit if you elect to use Family Tree: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray & Debbie Lowman" <lowman84@mvn.net> To: <TNOVERTO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [TNOVERTO] SWALLOW Y-DNA testing > Has anyone had the Y-DNA testing done on the SWALLOW(S) line? My father > is a SWALLOWS and would like to have it done. We are trying to make the > connection with Andrew Swallow. > > Thank you for any info. > Debbie (SWALLOWS) Lowman > McLeansboro IL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I checked Family Tree surname projects. We have a Crawford surname project with them. There does not seem to be a Swallow one. You could initiate it. Contact Family Tree. Joanne Crawford On Sep 11, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Ray & Debbie Lowman wrote: Has anyone had the Y-DNA testing done on the SWALLOW(S) line? My father is a SWALLOWS and would like to have it done. We are trying to make the connection with Andrew Swallow. Thank you for any info. Debbie (SWALLOWS) Lowman McLeansboro IL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone had the Y-DNA testing done on the SWALLOW(S) line? My father is a SWALLOWS and would like to have it done. We are trying to make the connection with Andrew Swallow. Thank you for any info. Debbie (SWALLOWS) Lowman McLeansboro IL

I have a book of biographies in which I noticed a John Lowrie Beveridge, Governor of Illinois from 1873-6. His parents were George and Ann Beveridge. He was well educated. First he taught in Wilson, Overton and Jackson Counties, Tenn. He read law and was admitted to the Bar, etc. I was just wondering if anyone from Overton County knows anything about him. There is so much more available about him in this book. Velda Wittenbrink Moore vel_chick@verizon.net http://www.larrett.com/velda/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/

Does anyone have a book for sale by H. C. Christian titled: Record of the Families of Gilbert Christian and Moses Fisk? Or do you know where I could find one? Velda Wittenbrink Moore vel_chick@verizon.net http://www.larrett.com/velda/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/

?We are searching for information on George & Mary? Olly? (Harris?) Green, their son (our ancestor), ? John Calvin Green & Lucy Snow were married in Overton County in 1871,?according to?Overton County?Marriage Records They had about?10 other children, including:????? Leander Green ?Mary Ann Green Alley Green Joseph Doulton Green Martha Green Thomas Ashburn Green Phebe A. Green Leona?L. Green Leanor Green Lewis E.Green Would appreciate any input about this family. ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Would the person who posted information on the Hill DNA Project regarding Thomas Hill of Overton Co. please contact me. The message I sent was returned. Doris doris337@cs.com </HTML>

I have a copy of the following persons original Tennessee Death Certificate: Name: William E. Pigg Age at Death: 82 Date of Birth: February 22, 1867 in Tennessee Date of Death: December 31, 1949 in Overton County, TN. Race: White Parents: Joseph Pigg and Zeralda Maxwell If anyone would like a copy of the original certificate please contact me at kaitysmom@peoplestel.net, I would be glad to share. In Christ, Melissa Barker Genealogist for Tennessee and Kentucky

>From the Hilltop Express Newspaper, Monterey, TN http://www.hilltopexpress.net Book sales continue in spite of bankruptcy filing and criminal sentence By Dale Welch dale@hilltopexpress.net Mary Hopson, a Cookeville, Tenn. author, said that her current book sales will continue, even after she had filed for Chapter 13 bankruptcy. Hopson filed the bankruptcy shortly after she was sentenced to a total of eight years (Circuit Court Clerk notes say Tennessee Department of Corrections, 4 years at a standard 30-percent consecutive on case numbers 95-0012 and 95-0014; Community Corrections, 4 years). Her latest book "Comprehensive Pictorial History of Putnam County, Tennessee, Vol. 1," she said, is the first of a six-volume set to be printed. Originally, she advertised and pre-sold the book as a 1,000-page work, but has since changed to the six-volume set. Hopson said that those who pre-ordered would get the first three when printed. In a email to the Hilltop Express publisher, Dale Welch, she said book sales of the first volume and pre-sales of future volumes would continue. "Fact is," Hopson stated, "these books don't belong to me, I have not signed a contract with anyone concerning these books because they do not belong to me." The first volume, including the index, has around 255 pages. It is hardback bound and has several pages that appear to be faded. Several photos and stories are included. Some of the stories included had been originally been written by Hilltop Express publisher Dale Welch for the newspaper and other previous publications and other contributors. Contributors of articles and photos had nothing to do with the sale of the book. Hopson does not have permission from Dale Welch to use any more of his articles. Hopson was convicted by a jury on Nov. 21, 2006 on a charge of theft of between $10,000 - $60,000 in Putnam County Criminal Court. According to court records, Hopson stole money over a period of time from her employers, Shirley and Reba Roberson, who own Stor-N-Lock, in Cookeville. Once confronted she paid a portion of it back, but once convicted by jury of the theft, owes restitution to the Robersons totaling $27,913, court records state. Because of the conviction on the theft charges, her probation on other charges dating back to the 1990s were also revoked. Hopson was granted four years of judicial diversion on Nov. 17, 1997 after she pled guilty to charges of fraudulent acts or devices in connection with the sale of a security. That conviction involved the sale of another one of her books. The judicial diversion was extended in Nov., 2001, but because of the felony theft conviction, Judge John Maddux had it fully revoked early this year. Instead of prison time, Hopson was sentenced to Community Corrections Probation and has to follow a list of over 20 restrictions, including house arrest. cannot have a firearm, being liable for all court cost/fines/restitution, etc. Just days after her Jan. 25, 2007 sentencing for the theft, Hopson filed her bankruptcy proceeding on Jan. 30. The Putnam Circuit Court Clerk was notified on Feb. 21. A website that was previously listed for the books at: www.putnamhistory.com was not working over the weekend. In an advertisement, Hopson said that she could be reached at 750 E. Hudgens St., Cookeville, TN or at phone number: 931-520-1935 about her current book

Your fellow genealogists at the Middle Tennessee Genealogical Society invite you to save Saturday, November 17, 2007, for our all-day Seminar titled: "Using Land Records to Find Your Ancestors -- Even If They Did Not Own Land." As usual, you can find the details at http://www.mtgs.org. Our next meeting will be Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 1:00 p.m. at the Martin Center, 960 Heritage Way, Brentwood, TN. NOTE THE CHANGE OF VENUE. Details are on our website: http://www.mtgs.org. A copy of our September, 2007, Newsletter in .pdf format can be found on our website. We hope to see you at both events. Katheryne Cowan MTGS Webmaster

Carl Cason is this the big guy from El Segundo? Jane McIntosh -----Original Message----- From: CARL CASON <ccason621@msn.com> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 5:59 pm Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Fiske/Fisk Frank Holladay, you wrote this on the TNOVERTO site (I am replying through that site because I could not get MSN to accept your k4vmo address): > As a point of information, Arabela May Brown was my ggrandmother and I > knwe > her quite well. She and Thomas Brown had nine children as follows: > 1 Minnie Brown > 2 Ollie Brown > 3 Georgia Brown > 4 Virgie Brown > 5 Charles D. Brown > 6 Jessie Christian Brown > 7 William Sidney Brown > 8 Hazel Pearl Brown > 9 Albert Wales Brown > 10 Alva Brown > I have quite a bit of additional info I would be glad to share. Please > contact me off site. > Frank Holladay > k4vmo@arrl.net<mailto:k4vmo@arrl.net> Would this be the same Hazel Pearl Brown who married Dallas Stephens in Livingston in 1919? Dallas was my uncle and a brother of my mother Nona Ethel Stephens. I remember Dallas in Livingston when my folks and I would visit Livingston (from Albany, N.Y.). That was in the late 30s and 40s. I remember that he was postmaster in LIvingston then. We visited them often. Pearl died in 1994. We live in the state of Washington now. Didn't the Browns own a hotel on the square in Livingston, along with my grandfather Timothy Stephens? Regards cousin , Carl Cason ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Hi Jeanette, In my other reply to you I made a mistake. I meant that Moses & Nancy raised Belle like she was their own daughter. Betty ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Jeanette, You are so right about Arabella or Belle as we called her. She was my granny. Zeda was her mother and apparently her father was married. As you can imagine way back then that just didn't happen. They say that they kept Belle in the house until she was about ten yrs. old. Celina and Moses raised her like their own daughter. Do you have the article about Arkley being the oldest confederate soldier? I have it if you don't. I don't live in Tennessee. Grew up in Ky. and live in Florida now. I visited Overton County about four yrs ago. It hadn't changed much since I used to go there when I was a kid. Good hearing from you, Betty ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Frank Holladay, you wrote this on the TNOVERTO site (I am replying through that site because I could not get MSN to accept your k4vmo address): > As a point of information, Arabela May Brown was my ggrandmother and I > knwe > her quite well. She and Thomas Brown had nine children as follows: > 1 Minnie Brown > 2 Ollie Brown > 3 Georgia Brown > 4 Virgie Brown > 5 Charles D. Brown > 6 Jessie Christian Brown > 7 William Sidney Brown > 8 Hazel Pearl Brown > 9 Albert Wales Brown > 10 Alva Brown > I have quite a bit of additional info I would be glad to share. Please > contact me off site. > Frank Holladay > k4vmo@arrl.net<mailto:k4vmo@arrl.net> Would this be the same Hazel Pearl Brown who married Dallas Stephens in Livingston in 1919? Dallas was my uncle and a brother of my mother Nona Ethel Stephens. I remember Dallas in Livingston when my folks and I would visit Livingston (from Albany, N.Y.). That was in the late 30s and 40s. I remember that he was postmaster in LIvingston then. We visited them often. Pearl died in 1994. We live in the state of Washington now. Didn't the Browns own a hotel on the square in Livingston, along with my grandfather Timothy Stephens? Regards cousin , Carl Cason

No, Jeanette, I don't live in Tennessee, but I would love for you to come visit Southern Illinois. I could show you around. I remember conversing with you much earlier. I would love to get going again with what we can share with each other. My life is so busy, but I am ready anyway. Thanks for answering! Velda Wittenbrink Moore vel_chick@verizon.net http://www.larrett.com/velda/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/

Hello to Velda, Betty, Susan, Frank and Jean! And, others interested in our line. Yes, isn't this a great way to bump into long lost "cousins". I am from the Christian branch - via George and Celina. My great grandfather, Arkley Fisk, was a brother to George Worth. I had always read that Arabella (Arabela) was not a sister but a niece? Daughter of Zeda Ann who was a sister? I would love to pursue any family ties we have - do any of you live in Tennessee? Jeannette Christian Parmelee ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In Gary Norris's Overton County Roll Cemetery book CARMACK MARTHA JANE 1866-1890 buried in Mt Gilead Milly WARD Piros My Mind Is Like Lightning....One Brilliant Flash and Poooffffffffffffffffff, It's Gone ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I am trying to find out information about my Mother -in-laws family. She was Betty Ann Carmack daughter of Jessie Carmack, born in 1850 and died in 1934 and his second wife Martha Jane Christian daughter of Eldriddge Christian and Nancy Arterbum in 1854 in Overton County. I do not know when or where she died but that Jessie was living with his daughter Effie Swan in the 1920 census. Betty Ann was born 01 July 1884 in Hilham, Overton, Tn and died in Pryor, Mayes, Ok 11 Oct 1939. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Betty Ann married General Lee Morgan who was born 24 July 1885 in Hilham, Overton, Tn and died 08 Sept 1950 in Tulsa, Tulsa Oklahoma. Thank you Dorothy Morgan

Frank, I would love to have any inf. you have Arbella or Aunt Belle as my mother called her was very special to my mother. Belle was her Aunt. He mother was Mattie Masters Gilpatrick. Thanks Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Holladay" <holladayfd@multipro.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Fiske/Fisk > As a point of information, Arabela May Brown was my ggrandmother and I > knwe > her quite well. She and Thomas Brown had nine children as follows: > 1 Minnie Brown > 2 Ollie Brown > 3 Georgia Brown > 4 Virgie Brown > 5 Charles D. Brown > 6 Jessie Christian Brown > 7 William Sidney Brown > 8 Hazel Pearl Brown > 9 Albert Wales Brown > 10 Alva Brown > I have quite a bit of additional info I would be glad to share. Please > contact me off site. > Frank Holladay > k4vmo@arrl.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Velda Moore" <Vel_Chick@verizon.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Fiske/Fisk > > >> Your name, then, was Betty Brown. Arabella Mae married William Thomas >> Brown. I don't have any children listed for her. Would you like to >> trade >> info? This tickles me IMMENSELY! >> >> Velda, >> My grandma was Arabella Christian. Her parents were Celina Fisk and >> George >> W. Christian. I see where they have a son George Worth Christian. We >> probably are related. >> I don't have anything in writing about Nancy actually being part indian. >> Just the old family lore. >> I keep trying to go onto the Cheroke site but everytime I try it is >> down. >> Someone told me they may have some info. >> Betty >> >> >> Velda Wittenbrink Moore >> vel_chick@verizon.net >> http://www.larrett.com/velda/ >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >