Louanne, Do you have any additional information on Polly Brown's family? My family of Robertson/Robinsons were from Overton County and owned land in 1826 along Puncheon Camp Creek. Orman Robinson married Mary Ann Brown (most likely daughter of William Brown) prior to moving to McLean/Woodford County, Illinois in about 1832. Descendants of Robinson/Robertson 1 Robinson/Robertson ... 2 Orman Robinson b: 23 Jan 1805 in Tennessee d: 27 Feb 1852 in White Oak Grove, Woodford County, Illinois ....... +Mary Ann Brown b: 15 Sep 1801 in Poss. North Carolina or Tennessee m: 17 Feb 1824 in Overton County, Tennessee d: 26 Dec 1880 ... 2 William Russell Robinson b: 12 Feb 1797 d: 23 Mar 1843 in McLean County, Illinois ....... +Malinda Hinshaw b: 30 Jan 1807 in Randolph County, North Carolina m: Abt. 1827 d: 11 Feb 1887 in McLean County, Illinois I visited Overton County last year and found the 1826 land record. If anyone has any connection to this family - love to hear from you. Carrie Bergquist In a message dated 11/21/2007 1:52:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Louannel@aol.com writes: J Roots: I am a relative newcomer to the research on this family, but I can tell you from what research I've done, the research of others that I've read, and the feedback I've gotten from others in this group that there are few definitive answers yet about the connections between the first & second generations of Overton Co Garretts. I found an 1848 court record recently I hoped would help, but it wasn't one of the Garrett Patriarchs. If you know anyone looking for info on Joshua the younger, though, it's there. BUT, your email raises several important questions that point us all to new areas of research. You say Joseph Garrett b 1814 married Polly Brown (I assume from Overton Co?), then moved to Wayne Co KY btw 1850-1860. This is interesting for two reasons: 1. I am a descendant of Creed Garrett thru his dau Emila ("Kitty") b 1835 who married Wm Cox bef 7 Sep 1850. They are living next door to Creed on the 1850 census. But in 1860 Wm & son Charley b 1852 are living with Wm's mother in - guess where? Wayne Co KY. Just 3 doors down is "Abram" Garrett, age 45 & b TN. I thought that was quite a coincidence when I first saw it, but now that you say your Garrett ancestor moved there at maybe the exact same time, it REALLY makes me wonder who else is there and why. 2. How do you know Polly's name is Brown? Have you found any records of her family? The reason I ask is that I have seen a record that states that "Brown" was the maiden name of Mariah Garrett (Creed's wife). This could very well be wrong, but I've been looking for a Brown family to appear in this mix and there it was - in your email. 3. Last, what is our source for Joseph the elder being born in Buckingtham Co VA? I saw the other day that Loderck was born in Campbell Co VA. I'm assuming that there is a miilitary pension record somewhere that backs up these staements. I was thinking about starting a Overton Co Garrett family website for us to easily share info and contribute copies of new things we find. Anyone interested? Louanne Love **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)
Louanne In case you didn't have this and take this to though Wayne Co KY organized 1800 was state line for TN/KY what was to become Overton Co TN 1806 from Jackson & Indian Lands Clinton Co KY organized then Fentress was 1823 taken from Overton & others counties then in 1835 Clinton Co KY from part of Wayne Co KY then Pickett Co TN in 1879 So Overton Co TN was the state line for TN/KY and joined Wayne Co KY for some time. I wonder sometimes if they owned land in Overton Co TN and were counted in Ky census early but can't prove that though. Just a little information in case you didn't have it. I am working on going through early records on microfilm page per page that are not indexed for Garrett information in hopes of turning something up. Ron -----Original Message----- From: tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louannel@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:51 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Joseph Garrett J Roots: I am a relative newcomer to the research on this family, but I can tell you from what research I've done, the research of others that I've read, and the feedback I've gotten from others in this group that there are few definitive answers yet about the connections between the first & second generations of Overton Co Garretts. I found an 1848 court record recently I hoped would help, but it wasn't one of the Garrett Patriarchs. If you know anyone looking for info on Joshua the younger, though, it's there. BUT, your email raises several important questions that point us all to new areas of research. You say Joseph Garrett b 1814 married Polly Brown (I assume from Overton Co?), then moved to Wayne Co KY btw 1850-1860. This is interesting for two reasons: 1. I am a descendant of Creed Garrett thru his dau Emila ("Kitty") b 1835 who married Wm Cox bef 7 Sep 1850. They are living next door to Creed on the 1850 census. But in 1860 Wm & son Charley b 1852 are living with Wm's mother in - guess where? Wayne Co KY. Just 3 doors down is "Abram" Garrett, age 45 & b TN. I thought that was quite a coincidence when I first saw it, but now that you say your Garrett ancestor moved there at maybe the exact same time, it REALLY makes me wonder who else is there and why. 2. How do you know Polly's name is Brown? Have you found any records of her family? The reason I ask is that I have seen a record that states that "Brown" was the maiden name of Mariah Garrett (Creed's wife). This could very well be wrong, but I've been looking for a Brown family to appear in this mix and there it was - in your email. 3. Last, what is our source for Joseph the elder being born in Buckingtham Co VA? I saw the other day that Loderck was born in Campbell Co VA. I'm assuming that there is a miilitary pension record somewhere that backs up these staements. I was thinking about starting a Overton Co Garrett family website for us to easily share info and contribute copies of new things we find. Anyone interested? Louanne Love **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
J Roots: I am a relative newcomer to the research on this family, but I can tell you from what research I've done, the research of others that I've read, and the feedback I've gotten from others in this group that there are few definitive answers yet about the connections between the first & second generations of Overton Co Garretts. I found an 1848 court record recently I hoped would help, but it wasn't one of the Garrett Patriarchs. If you know anyone looking for info on Joshua the younger, though, it's there. BUT, your email raises several important questions that point us all to new areas of research. You say Joseph Garrett b 1814 married Polly Brown (I assume from Overton Co?), then moved to Wayne Co KY btw 1850-1860. This is interesting for two reasons: 1. I am a descendant of Creed Garrett thru his dau Emila ("Kitty") b 1835 who married Wm Cox bef 7 Sep 1850. They are living next door to Creed on the 1850 census. But in 1860 Wm & son Charley b 1852 are living with Wm's mother in - guess where? Wayne Co KY. Just 3 doors down is "Abram" Garrett, age 45 & b TN. I thought that was quite a coincidence when I first saw it, but now that you say your Garrett ancestor moved there at maybe the exact same time, it REALLY makes me wonder who else is there and why. 2. How do you know Polly's name is Brown? Have you found any records of her family? The reason I ask is that I have seen a record that states that "Brown" was the maiden name of Mariah Garrett (Creed's wife). This could very well be wrong, but I've been looking for a Brown family to appear in this mix and there it was - in your email. 3. Last, what is our source for Joseph the elder being born in Buckingtham Co VA? I saw the other day that Loderck was born in Campbell Co VA. I'm assuming that there is a miilitary pension record somewhere that backs up these staements. I was thinking about starting a Overton Co Garrett family website for us to easily share info and contribute copies of new things we find. Anyone interested? Louanne Love **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)
Louann, My line is as follows: Elijah Sr>Thomas A.>Thomas Jr (Little Tom)>Bramlet Hayden>Delmar>James Sr>James Jr (myself) -----Original Message----- From: Louannel@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:33 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Creed Garrott James - Thanks for all this info. I'm assuming that you are related to Creed - can you tell me your line? I'll digest all this and get back to you with questions. I have lots! Thanks. Louanne Love **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
james garrett wrote: >Louanne, >In regards to Creed Garrett, >unfortunately I cannot produce definite proof that Creed was s/o Joshua instead of Elijah. If I had made mention in an earlier e-mail that Creed was s/o Elijah then I apologize for the mistake & I would have to say that is likey incorrect. > >What I do have are "circumstantial evidence" based on "process of elimination" mostly from Census info. > >What I meant by "sons accounted for" was that Elijah Garrott had ONLY 2 sons born 1802-1810 according to 1820 census, same time frame that of Creed & Joshua. >We know these 2 sons to be Stephen b. 1802/03 & the other Elijah Jr born 1 Nov 1806. > >The remaider of his Elijahs younger sons were born after 1810 beginning with Shadrack b 1809/10 (4 males b. 1810 -1820) >The other 3 were Wm Pleasant born abt 1814, John B. b. 10 Oct 1817, & Thomas b. 1819/20. > >In this I have "accounted" for Elijahs sons born in the time frame mentioned above & cannot see how Joshua or Creed could fit into Elijahs HH. > >Joshua (Sr) does have 2 males b. 1802-1804. >This time frame fits with both Joshua b. 1802/03 & Creed b. 1804/05. >I also said that I thought likely Loderick may be s/o Elijah. I looked back through my note to confirm, but seen that I have Loderick as the s/o Joshua. He is likely the male b. 1804-1810 (b. 1810/11). Also as you probably know Loderick had a son named CREED. >The other male b. 1810-1820 is likely Spotwood b. 1814. >Hence, the "process of elimination". > >Also note in 1830 (pg 178) Joshua Garrott (Sr) is nearby on the same pg with Joshua (Jr), Loderick, & David (another son b. abt 1798). >We see that Joshua now has only 1 male b. 1820-30 (unknown), but where is Creed? His name does not appear in 1830. > >I checked Elijahs HH in 1830 pg 202. >1 male 1810-1815 is likely Shadrack b. 189/10. the others were born after 1815. >So Creed is not here either. > >However, I do see a male b. 1800-1810, age 20-30 in HH of David who is nearby Joshua (Sr) in 1830. Who is this? He cannot be a son of David. David does not have children until after 1820. This male does NOT show up in Davids 1820 HH. As a matter of fact David has no children in 1820, so apparently just married. Could this be Creed b. 1804/05 with possible brother David? > >Again, I have no actual or definite proof, just "reasonable evidence" based on the info discussed above, > >I have done work in VA on our Garrett line & plan to go back next year & pick up where I left with additional info. > >If you have questions, I will try & answer. Any feedback most welcomed! > >BTW I am not the man from IN who put out a book of Garretts. I think you are thinking of Ronald Garrett from Port Royal, IN. He has written & published a book. I have not seen it as of yet. > >Regards > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I really need help on this all you Garrett researchers. Who is this Joseph Garrett that also was in Overton County too, the same time as all of your Garretts? >JOSEPH GARRETT was born Aft. 1783 >in Buckingham County, Virginia, and died 09 Feb 1859 in Overton County, >Tennessee. He married JUDA. She was born Aft. 1788 in Virginia, >and died Aft. 1870 in Tennessee. > > JOSEPH GARRETT, son of Joseph, b. 1814, Overton County, Tennessee; d. in Kentucky. He was listed on the 1850 Overton County Tennessee Census. He married Polly (Mary Maria) Brown. He then went to Wayne County, Kentucky and had 2 more children. I found him on the 1870 Russell County, Kentucky Census. Joseph and Mary Brown must have died before 1880, because their youngest daughter Lucinda was living with her sister Mary Maria (Garrett) Lockard on the 1880 Cumberland County Census. MARY MARIA GARRETT, daughter of Joseph, was born 16 Jul 1836 in Livingston, Tennessee, Overton County, and died 17 Dec 1901 in Burkesville, Kentucky, Cumberland County. She married BENJAMIN LOCKARD 18 Nov 1858 in Monticello, Kentucky, Wayne County, son of JOHN LOCKARD. He was born 1825 in Livingston, Tennessee, Overton County, and died 1890 in Burkesville, Kentucky, Cumberland County.
Louanne, In regards to Creed Garrett, unfortunately I cannot produce definite proof that Creed was s/o Joshua instead of Elijah. If I had made mention in an earlier e-mail that Creed was s/o Elijah then I apologize for the mistake & I would have to say that is likey incorrect. What I do have are "circumstantial evidence" based on "process of elimination" mostly from Census info. What I meant by "sons accounted for" was that Elijah Garrott had ONLY 2 sons born 1802-1810 according to 1820 census, same time frame that of Creed & Joshua. We know these 2 sons to be Stephen b. 1802/03 & the other Elijah Jr born 1 Nov 1806. The remaider of his Elijahs younger sons were born after 1810 beginning with Shadrack b 1809/10 (4 males b. 1810 -1820) The other 3 were Wm Pleasant born abt 1814, John B. b. 10 Oct 1817, & Thomas b. 1819/20. In this I have "accounted" for Elijahs sons born in the time frame mentioned above & cannot see how Joshua or Creed could fit into Elijahs HH. Joshua (Sr) does have 2 males b. 1802-1804. This time frame fits with both Joshua b. 1802/03 & Creed b. 1804/05. I also said that I thought likely Loderick may be s/o Elijah. I looked back through my note to confirm, but seen that I have Loderick as the s/o Joshua. He is likely the male b. 1804-1810 (b. 1810/11). Also as you probably know Loderick had a son named CREED. The other male b. 1810-1820 is likely Spotwood b. 1814. Hence, the "process of elimination". Also note in 1830 (pg 178) Joshua Garrott (Sr) is nearby on the same pg with Joshua (Jr), Loderick, & David (another son b. abt 1798). We see that Joshua now has only 1 male b. 1820-30 (unknown), but where is Creed? His name does not appear in 1830. I checked Elijahs HH in 1830 pg 202. 1 male 1810-1815 is likely Shadrack b. 189/10. the others were born after 1815. So Creed is not here either. However, I do see a male b. 1800-1810, age 20-30 in HH of David who is nearby Joshua (Sr) in 1830. Who is this? He cannot be a son of David. David does not have children until after 1820. This male does NOT show up in Davids 1820 HH. As a matter of fact David has no children in 1820, so apparently just married. Could this be Creed b. 1804/05 with possible brother David? Again, I have no actual or definite proof, just "reasonable evidence" based on the info discussed above, I have done work in VA on our Garrett line & plan to go back next year & pick up where I left with additional info. If you have questions, I will try & answer. Any feedback most welcomed! BTW I am not the man from IN who put out a book of Garretts. I think you are thinking of Ronald Garrett from Port Royal, IN. He has written & published a book. I have not seen it as of yet. Regards
Louann, I just finished sending a lengthy e-mail to your respone regarding Creed Garrett, but unfortunately MSN had tech difficulties & the info was lost & not sent. So I will work on another mail to your reply. -----Original Message----- From: louannel@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:37 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records James - I haven't been working on this line very long, and you obviously have.? But I've seen no record that tells us who is whose father or brother.? Have I missed something?? I'll ask specific questions below to try and educate myself. -----Original Message----- From: james garrett <jwgarrett@webtv.net> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:34 am Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records In regards to Creed Garrott, I have concluded (w/o proof) since Creeds brother was Joshua I know I said this in my email, but is there real proof of this? , then likely Creed was s/o Joshua Sr. Well, I'm not ready to say likely yet. For me this is still a big maybe and that generation of Garrotts is still tangled. For instance, you say below in that Loderick may be the son of Elijah, and in another email you say that he had a son named Creed. I'm thinking it's more likely that Loderick was Creed's brother (much more common to name a son after a brother than after a cousin). But he doesn't exactly fit in. We desperately need to find a deed or court case that lists the children of one of those first Garrotts (Elijah or Joshua). Until then, we're just guessing. For all we know, Creed's brother Joshua could have named after his father's brother Joshua or his grandfather Joshua. I have accounted for all the sons of Elijah, Creed not being a son of his. I'm not sure what you mean by "accounted for". Do you mean you have records that positively identify the children of Elijah Garrott? Or maybe a number of death certificates of Garrott men listing Elijah as the father in the same number as males in his HH on census? That would be amazing. Whatever you've got that rules out Creed, I can't wait to see it! That would save me soooo much time. I've heard tell of a Garrott Bible. Does anyone know if such a bible exists and who has it? Depending upon his date of birth either 1804/05 or 1806/07, Creed is likely one of the two male child b. 1802-04 in Joshuas HH of 1820 Overton. The other male child is Joshua Jr b 1803. Elijah had one son b. bet 1802-04 in 1820 Census. This is most likely Stephen b. 1802. He also had a son b. 1804-06; this is Elijah Jr b. 1806. Therefore Creed cannot be s/o Elijah if he is born 1804/05. If Creed was born 1806/07 he is likely the one male born 1804-1810 in Joshuas 1820 HH. According to 1820 Overton for Joshua Garrott: 1 male b. 1790-1794: unknown 2 males 1802-04: Joshua b. 1803 Creed b. 1804/05 1 male b. 1804-1810: either Creed b. 1806/07 or Loderick b. 1810/11 (may be s/o Eliajah) 1 male b. 1810-1820: Spotwood b. 1814 If you still have a copy of the record of "Joshua Garrotts Heirs" I would like to have a copy of it if possible. The copy I have is very light and would not scan well. I'll try to get the paragraph with the kids names dark enough to send to anyone who wants it. I'll send the book & page when I get home so that whoever is interested in that line can get themselves a copy. BTW, James, are you the Garrott man from IN (?) who put a book of research on the Garrott family in the libary in Livingston? I hope so, because after my visit in October I emailed that man twice to ask for sources for statements he made and he never wrote back to me. So I'm thinking if that was you, I had the email address wrong. I'll have to find my notes. Thanks No, thank you for helping me get up to speed. With several serious researchers on this Garrott line, we should be able to make good progress. Has anyone worked in the VA records? -----Original Message----- From: Louannel@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:09 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records It typically isn't as simple as looking in a will book. So many didn't have wills or the wills were lost. What we do have lots of in Overton County is court minutes and deeds. When I was in Livingston in October I spent some time at the Registrar of Deeds office looking for proof of the father of Creed Garrett, my ancestor (supposedly Joshua, but I've seen no proof). I was looking for Elijah, Joshua & Creed. I found court minutes in a case where the defendant was indexed as "Joshua Garrett's Heirs", so I was hoping that would have my answer. Unfortunately, it was Creed's brother Joshua, BUT for anyone researching that line it would be very helpful - gives his year of death, name of his wife and children, most of whom were minors. Researching in the old documents is tedious. This particular document was not in the book and page listed in the Index, which meant I had to go through that entire book and then another to find it. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. 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James - Thanks for all this info. I'm assuming that you are related to Creed - can you tell me your line? I'll digest all this and get back to you with questions. I have lots! Thanks. Louanne Love **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)
It seems that a lot of people are listening right now, so with Christmas coming I'll make a wish list of my family lines in hopes that Santa (and others in this group) are working on the same families and we can help one another. I have census records, so I don't need that info. I'm especially interested in photographs of any of these people or their siblings: Sells (Wm Barlow b 1878, Alex, James, Allen, Andrew, Solomon, Heinrich) Need: Maiden name of Allen's wife Mary b 1800 VA Info on James' wife Margaret Barnett b 1821 Washington Co VA Info on Andrew's wife Rebecca b 1776 VA Howard (Corintha Ann, Bry, Brinkley) Need: Anything on Brinkley's wife Elizabeth Marcum & fam Brinkley's parents Cox (Nancy Ellen b 1881; Charley b 1852, William b 1827 prob KY) Need: Proof like a family bible that Nancy Ellen is Charley's daughter - the censuss missed her, then her death cert has his name right as father, but 90% of the other info, including her name is wrong Name of William's father Stover (Nancy Jane b 1847; James, Lewis Sr.) Need: Maiden name of James' wife Flora b @ 1815 - prob Overton Co Grave of James' wife Flora Will of Lewis Sr. Grave of Lewis Sr. (I've heard Old Stover Cemetery, unmarked grave, but that makes no sense to me because that's way far from where he lived. So I'm looking for documentation - obit, bible record, old letter, etc.) Parents of Lewis, Sr. Garrett (Kitty b 1835 d 1852-1860; Creed Sr & Mariah) Need: Anything about all 3 except census records - I have those. Mariah's maiden name may be "Brown" Anyone working on these lines can email me at _LouanneL@aol.com_ (mailto:LouanneL@aol.com) . Thanks for looking and Happy Thanksgiving! Louanne Love **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)
Hi Brenda, What Ledbetter line are you? My mother was a Ledbetter and she also was from Overton Co. * Joey Crabtree Sterling Heights, MI
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Jerry - Thanks for this great tip! I probably would never have thought of it, but you're right. Of course they re-recorded their deeds after a courthouse fire and most people back then were very, very careful about title documents. Louanne ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
James - I haven't been working on this line very long, and you obviously have.? But I've seen no record that tells us who is whose father or brother.? Have I missed something?? I'll ask specific questions below to try and educate myself. -----Original Message----- From: james garrett <jwgarrett@webtv.net> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:34 am Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records In regards to Creed Garrott, I have concluded (w/o proof) since Creeds brother was Joshua I know I said this in my email, but is there real proof of this? , then likely Creed was s/o Joshua Sr. Well, I'm not ready to say likely yet. For me this is still a big maybe and that generation of Garrotts is still tangled. For instance, you say below in that Loderick may be the son of Elijah, and in another email you say that he had a son named Creed. I'm thinking it's more likely that Loderick was Creed's brother (much more common to name a son after a brother than after a cousin). But he doesn't exactly fit in. We desperately need to find a deed or court case that lists the children of one of those first Garrotts (Elijah or Joshua). Until then, we're just guessing. For all we know, Creed's brother Joshua could have named after his father's brother Joshua or his grandfather Joshua. I have accounted for all the sons of Elijah, Creed not being a son of his. I'm not sure what you mean by "accounted for". Do you mean you have records that positively identify the children of Elijah Garrott? Or maybe a number of death certificates of Garrott men listing Elijah as the father in the same number as males in his HH on census? That would be amazing. Whatever you've got that rules out Creed, I can't wait to see it! That would save me soooo much time. I've heard tell of a Garrott Bible. Does anyone know if such a bible exists and who has it? Depending upon his date of birth either 1804/05 or 1806/07, Creed is likely one of the two male child b. 1802-04 in Joshuas HH of 1820 Overton. The other male child is Joshua Jr b 1803. Elijah had one son b. bet 1802-04 in 1820 Census. This is most likely Stephen b. 1802. He also had a son b. 1804-06; this is Elijah Jr b. 1806. Therefore Creed cannot be s/o Elijah if he is born 1804/05. If Creed was born 1806/07 he is likely the one male born 1804-1810 in Joshuas 1820 HH. According to 1820 Overton for Joshua Garrott: 1 male b. 1790-1794: unknown 2 males 1802-04: Joshua b. 1803 Creed b. 1804/05 1 male b. 1804-1810: either Creed b. 1806/07 or Loderick b. 1810/11 (may be s/o Eliajah) 1 male b. 1810-1820: Spotwood b. 1814 If you still have a copy of the record of "Joshua Garrotts Heirs" I would like to have a copy of it if possible. The copy I have is very light and would not scan well. I'll try to get the paragraph with the kids names dark enough to send to anyone who wants it. I'll send the book & page when I get home so that whoever is interested in that line can get themselves a copy. BTW, James, are you the Garrott man from IN (?) who put a book of research on the Garrott family in the libary in Livingston? I hope so, because after my visit in October I emailed that man twice to ask for sources for statements he made and he never wrote back to me. So I'm thinking if that was you, I had the email address wrong. I'll have to find my notes. Thanks No, thank you for helping me get up to speed. With several serious researchers on this Garrott line, we should be able to make good progress. Has anyone worked in the VA records? -----Original Message----- From: Louannel@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:09 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records It typically isn't as simple as looking in a will book. So many didn't have wills or the wills were lost. What we do have lots of in Overton County is court minutes and deeds. When I was in Livingston in October I spent some time at the Registrar of Deeds office looking for proof of the father of Creed Garrett, my ancestor (supposedly Joshua, but I've seen no proof). I was looking for Elijah, Joshua & Creed. I found court minutes in a case where the defendant was indexed as "Joshua Garrett's Heirs", so I was hoping that would have my answer. Unfortunately, it was Creed's brother Joshua, BUT for anyone researching that line it would be very helpful - gives his year of death, name of his wife and children, most of whom were minors. Researching in the old documents is tedious. This particular document was not in the book and page listed in the Index, which meant I had to go through that entire book and then another to find it. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
Stan: Bonza E. Garrett b 3-30-1896 & d 8-7-1965 md 10-5-1913 John Edgar Melton b 7-12-1886 & d 6-17-1962. She was the dau of Joshua Winchester & Mary Sue (Patrick) Garrett. He was the son of Robert Ernest & Sarah Elizabeth (Daniel) Melton. I show they had the following, 1. Benton Edgar b 2-1-1918 & d 7-2-1905. He md Wilma Gunnels. 2. Robert C. b about 1917 & d about 1944 in Germany. He was killed in WWII by a land mine. 3. Quin b about 1931. No other info. 4. Sidney Malcom b about 1919. No other info. 5. Bertha Claudine b about 1914 md Stanley Goble Arney b about 1907. I show one child Jerry Kenneth. No other info. If you can add any info on about I would appreciate it very much. Ronald Ward Garrett rgarret@sugardog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Arney" <arney9thgeneration@yahoo.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com>; <jwgarrett@webtv.net> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Garrett Melton connection > James Garrett, > > My name is Stan Arney from Wichita, KS and I'm researching my branch of > the Arney's. My Grandmother is Bertha Claudine Melton Arney. Her father > was a Melton and her mother was a Garrett. > > I have been very lax in my research on my grandmother's side of her > family. Thinking, since I'm an Arney, that is the only side of my family > that matters. After all, if I follow all the women it will be too > overwhelming. However, I keep seeing the Garrett's in Overton County > posts and know that my grandmother's side stayed in or near Overton > County, just like most of my Arney's. My particular branch of the Arney's > arrived in Tennessee around 1799. Peter Arney, who was born in 1772 in > Tryon County, NC, moved his family to in or around Overton County, TN. To > this day, many of my cousins still reside in Tennessee including my > grandmother, Bertha Claudine Melton Arney (who was married to the now > deceased Stanley Goble Arney). > > My sister has however been doing extensive research on the Melton's and > Garrett's in Tennessee. We are currently "estranged" so she has not > shared the information she has on the Garrett's with me, at this time. > > To make a long story short (ha ha), are you part of that Garrett line? > > Thanks for listening, I deeply appreciate your time, consideration, and > cooperation in this matter. > > Sincerely, > > Stan Arney > Wichita, KS > > > > "Genealogy isn't digging up dead people, > it is researching the people who made you who you are today!" > > Stanley Arney > Wichita, KS > > Researching my Arney heritage, looking for definitive tangible proof of > each of their existence, > so we KNOW the truth and can share it with others. > Building a website that will make it easier for those who come after me to > find their Arney lineage > at www.arneygenealogy.com > > --------------------------------- > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See > how. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: > 11/17/2007 2:55 PM >
There were three Creed Taylor Garretts in Overton Co. 1. Born about 1808 in Virginia son of Joshua Bernard & Mary Jane Taylor & married Mariah ?? b 1804 in Va & d Feb 3, 1901. She may have been a Mullins. 2. b Oct 1843 in Overton Co. son of Loderick & Mary l. Pryor.. He md Julia Ann Beaty July 18, 1866 b Oct 1845 & d June 15, 1912. 3. Ronald Ward Garrett rgarret@sugardog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Louannel@aol.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records > It typically isn't as simple as looking in a will book. So many didn't > have > wills or the wills were lost. What we do have lots of in Overton County > is > court minutes and deeds. When I was in Livingston in October I spent some > time > at the Registrar of Deeds office looking for proof of the father of Creed > Garrett, my ancestor (supposedly Joshua, but I've seen no proof). I was > looking > for Elijah, Joshua & Creed. I found court minutes in a case where the > defendant was indexed as "Joshua Garrett's Heirs", so I was hoping that > would have my > answer. Unfortunately, it was Creed's brother Joshua, BUT for anyone > researching that line it would be very helpful - gives his year of death, > name of his > wife and children, most of whom were minors. > > Researching in the old documents is tedious. This particular document was > not in the book and page listed in the Index, which meant I had to go > through > that entire book and then another to find it. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: > 11/17/2007 2:55 PM > >
Hi James, I am also related to the Garretts in Overton Co. I have lived here most of my life. I work with the elderly and I will be seeing one today that was a Garrett and knows quite a bit about them. I will ask her today if she knows your grandmother's family. She has a book about the Garretts maybe we can find some information from that. Can you tell me more about them so I know what to look for. Brenda Ledbetter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Arney" <arney9thgeneration@yahoo.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com>; <jwgarrett@webtv.net> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Garrett Melton connection > James Garrett, > > My name is Stan Arney from Wichita, KS and I'm researching my branch of > the Arney's. My Grandmother is Bertha Claudine Melton Arney. Her father > was a Melton and her mother was a Garrett. > > I have been very lax in my research on my grandmother's side of her > family. Thinking, since I'm an Arney, that is the only side of my family > that matters. After all, if I follow all the women it will be too > overwhelming. However, I keep seeing the Garrett's in Overton County > posts and know that my grandmother's side stayed in or near Overton > County, just like most of my Arney's. My particular branch of the Arney's > arrived in Tennessee around 1799. Peter Arney, who was born in 1772 in > Tryon County, NC, moved his family to in or around Overton County, TN. To > this day, many of my cousins still reside in Tennessee including my > grandmother, Bertha Claudine Melton Arney (who was married to the now > deceased Stanley Goble Arney). > > My sister has however been doing extensive research on the Melton's and > Garrett's in Tennessee. We are currently "estranged" so she has not > shared the information she has on the Garrett's with me, at this time. > > To make a long story short (ha ha), are you part of that Garrett line? > > Thanks for listening, I deeply appreciate your time, consideration, and > cooperation in this matter. > > Sincerely, > > Stan Arney > Wichita, KS > > > > "Genealogy isn't digging up dead people, > it is researching the people who made you who you are today!" > > Stanley Arney > Wichita, KS > > Researching my Arney heritage, looking for definitive tangible proof of > each of their existence, > so we KNOW the truth and can share it with others. > Building a website that will make it easier for those who come after me to > find their Arney lineage > at www.arneygenealogy.com > > --------------------------------- > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See > how. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
In regards to Creed Garrott, I have concluded (w/o proof) since Creeds brother was Joshua, then likely Creed was s/o Joshua Sr. I have accounted for all the sons of Elijah, Creed not being a son of his. Depending upon his date of birth either 1804/05 or 1806/07, Creed is likely one of the two male child b. 1802-04 in Joshuas HH of 1820 Overton. The other male child is Joshua Jr b 1803. Elijah had one son b. bet 1802-04 in 1820 Census. This is most likely Stephen b. 1802. He also had a son b. 1804-06; this is Elijah Jr b. 1806. Therefore Creed cannot be s/o Elijah if he is born 1804/05. If Creed was born 1806/07 he is likely the one male born 1804-1810 in Joshuas 1820 HH. According to 1820 Overton for Joshua Garrott: 1 male b. 1790-1794: unknown 2 males 1802-04: Joshua b. 1803 Creed b. 1804/05 1 male b. 1804-1810: either Creed b. 1806/07 or Loderick b. 1810/11 (may be s/o Eliajah) 1 male b. 1810-1820: Spotwood b. 1814 BTW If you still have a copy of the record of "Joshua Garrotts Heirs" I would like to have a copy of it if possible. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Louannel@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:09 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records It typically isn't as simple as looking in a will book. So many didn't have wills or the wills were lost. What we do have lots of in Overton County is court minutes and deeds. When I was in Livingston in October I spent some time at the Registrar of Deeds office looking for proof of the father of Creed Garrett, my ancestor (supposedly Joshua, but I've seen no proof). I was looking for Elijah, Joshua & Creed. I found court minutes in a case where the defendant was indexed as "Joshua Garrett's Heirs", so I was hoping that would have my answer. Unfortunately, it was Creed's brother Joshua, BUT for anyone researching that line it would be very helpful - gives his year of death, name of his wife and children, most of whom were minors. Researching in the old documents is tedious. This particular document was not in the book and page listed in the Index, which meant I had to go through that entire book and then another to find it. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
James Garrett, My name is Stan Arney from Wichita, KS and I'm researching my branch of the Arney's. My Grandmother is Bertha Claudine Melton Arney. Her father was a Melton and her mother was a Garrett. I have been very lax in my research on my grandmother's side of her family. Thinking, since I'm an Arney, that is the only side of my family that matters. After all, if I follow all the women it will be too overwhelming. However, I keep seeing the Garrett's in Overton County posts and know that my grandmother's side stayed in or near Overton County, just like most of my Arney's. My particular branch of the Arney's arrived in Tennessee around 1799. Peter Arney, who was born in 1772 in Tryon County, NC, moved his family to in or around Overton County, TN. To this day, many of my cousins still reside in Tennessee including my grandmother, Bertha Claudine Melton Arney (who was married to the now deceased Stanley Goble Arney). My sister has however been doing extensive research on the Melton's and Garrett's in Tennessee. We are currently "estranged" so she has not shared the information she has on the Garrett's with me, at this time. To make a long story short (ha ha), are you part of that Garrett line? Thanks for listening, I deeply appreciate your time, consideration, and cooperation in this matter. Sincerely, Stan Arney Wichita, KS "Genealogy isn't digging up dead people, it is researching the people who made you who you are today!" Stanley Arney Wichita, KS Researching my Arney heritage, looking for definitive tangible proof of each of their existence, so we KNOW the truth and can share it with others. Building a website that will make it easier for those who come after me to find their Arney lineage at www.arneygenealogy.com --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.
Ron, This info is interesting to know. I was under the impression that since the courtcouse burnt, most of the old records were destroyed. I wonder if Elijah Garrotts will survived the fire? Judge Jefferson Dillard Goodpasture wrote his will apparently sometime bef Aug 1855 when Elijah died. This would defnitely be a much wanted record/document to have! Also if there exists any old records pertaining to earlier Garrett's of Overton? There was a Thomas Garrott who served in War of 1812 Overton Co. as Corporal in 4th Com. He died 5 May 1815 in Overton Co. Interested in knowing if additional records of him exists. Also the identity of an Absolum Garrett of 1820 Overton Census. He appears in a 1822 deposition, but do not have the details. -----Original Message----- From: Dishman Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:53 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Courthouse burnt? Barbara Yes the courthouse did burn but all records did not and is very miss leading to a lot of people we have original deeds records back to 1806 and other early court records and various county records that survived pre dating 1865 also you just have know what to look for. I have been researching over 30 years now and have helped many people and found records that even professional genealogist have overlooked. You just have to learn from trial and error and it is an advantage to live in the area you are researching in as well. Ron Dishman Researcher -----Original Message----- From: tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Smith Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:38 PM To: TNOVERTO@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNOVERTO] Courthouse burnt? Hello Everyone, I need to ask a question dose anyone know if the Overton town courthouse burnt down or the county courthouse burnt down or both? When looking for records I have found alot of times if I look in the town courthouse it has what the county and state do not have more so with the old records. I am sorry I live in CA. so have no idea. Barbara eor@saber.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I've worked with a few of the remaining Overton Co documents but living in TX it has been very few. However, I have worked with records from burned courthouses here in TX. One of the most interesting things I discovered is that families would invariably re-file their deeds. This was important to establish the ownership of the land and/or property, particularly for the heirs. We discovered a whole other group of children in one of my husband's ancestors deed records when the family "re-filed" the deed. This group of children were from a first marriage and they all still lived in GA. Each of them were listed with their spouses and their children. Land ownership was so important and most families had copies of their original deeds. When an individual died it was important to the heirs to establish legally their claim to the land. You might want to check on this. Oh, and another interesting thing I discovered in just abstracting Parker Co, TX, deeds for a local publication, was the filing in the Deed records of an adoption. Jerry Wright Jordan -----Original Message----- From: tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louannel@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:09 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNOVERTO] Overton County Records It typically isn't as simple as looking in a will book. So many didn't have wills or the wills were lost. What we do have lots of in Overton County is court minutes and deeds. When I was in Livingston in October I spent some time at the Registrar of Deeds office looking for proof of the father of Creed Garrett, my ancestor (supposedly Joshua, but I've seen no proof). I was looking for Elijah, Joshua & Creed. I found court minutes in a case where the defendant was indexed as "Joshua Garrett's Heirs", so I was hoping that would have my answer. Unfortunately, it was Creed's brother Joshua, BUT for anyone researching that line it would be very helpful - gives his year of death, name of his wife and children, most of whom were minors. Researching in the old documents is tedious. This particular document was not in the book and page listed in the Index, which meant I had to go through that entire book and then another to find it. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: 11/17/2007 2:55 PM