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    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford
    2. D&R
    3. My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of age. Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to southwestern MO. Rose C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >I am searching for a William Smith from east Tn. I have no idea when he > died. His daughter lived in Overton,Purnam co. do you have any other info > on > your Wm. Smith > Mary Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >>I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary >>POLLY >> (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. >> I have a William Smith died ca 1846, >> Overton County TN. >> Are we searching in the same Smith family? >> >> Rose c >> >> Rose C >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM >> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >> >> >>> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >>> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 Overton >>> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 >> 8:32 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/05/2008 12:07:58
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford
    2. Mary
    3. I am searching for a William Smith from east Tn. I have no idea when he died. His daughter lived in Overton,Purnam co. do you have any other info on your Wm. Smith Mary Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary POLLY > (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. > I have a William Smith died ca 1846, > Overton County TN. > Are we searching in the same Smith family? > > Rose c > > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM > Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 Overton >> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 > 8:32 AM > >

    07/03/2008 05:08:37
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford
    2. Hi... Yes, this is my Malinda...I just can't confirm that she married my GGGrandad Fielding Smith..He did marry a Malinda of the same age & the Smiths & Langfords lived very close in Overton Co. (Dists 2&3) ... However, I don't have a William Smith. Thanks for your interest, Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary POLLY > (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. > I have a William Smith died ca 1846, > Overton County TN. > Are we searching in the same Smith family? > > Rose c > > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM > Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 Overton >> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/03/2008 04:46:48
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford
    2. Theresa McCormick
    3. I am looking for the father of Hester Smith who married Tom Moredock. Do you have any information? Thanks, TM Theresa M. McCormick, Ph.D. Program Coordinator, Elementary Education Department of Curriculum and Teaching 5024 Haley Center Auburn University, AL 36849 email: mccortm@auburn.edu phone: 334-844-6795 fax: 334-844-6789 >>> <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> 7/3/2008 9:46 AM >>> Hi... Yes, this is my Malinda...I just can't confirm that she married my GGGrandad Fielding Smith..He did marry a Malinda of the same age & the Smiths & Langfords lived very close in Overton Co. (Dists 2&3) ... However, I don't have a William Smith. Thanks for your interest, Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary POLLY > (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. > I have a William Smith died ca 1846, > Overton County TN. > Are we searching in the same Smith family? > > Rose c > > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM > Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 Overton >> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/03/2008 04:05:02
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford
    2. D&R
    3. I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary POLLY (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. I have a William Smith died ca 1846, Overton County TN. Are we searching in the same Smith family? Rose c Rose C ----- Original Message ----- From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... > Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 Overton > census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2008 04:19:42
    1. [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford
    2. Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 Overton census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith

    07/02/2008 09:17:35
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages
    2. Maria Troutman
    3. I wish I knew who those EVANS were. I have an Albert Peterson Evans. But the family story is.. Albert Petterson Evans Sr. was suppose to be in the Confederate Army in the Civil War. Supposedly he got sick, was left in a private home, took pneumonia and died 6 weeks BEFORE his son, Albert Petterson Evans Jr. was born in 1863. Word was sent that he had died and was buried in TN. For reasons I don't know, his wife Martha came to Kentucky and settled in Union County, Boxville, KY. Perhaps our Albert Sr didn't really die and they just split up and he remarried. Perhaps it's a cousin. I've not worked much at all on the Evans family that is my mother in law's family. All I know is that Albert Evans SR married June 6 1855 in Rutherford Co., TN to Martha Pearcy. Maria in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Evans" <rnevans@bellsouth.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages > Florence LEDFORD and SC EVANS married in Overton County 16 April 1898. ML > BOWMAN was the surety. > > Albert EVANS and Nancy LOOPER married in Overton County 20 May 1873. > > Anyone know who the folks are? > > Ray Evans > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/29/2008 03:15:37
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages
    2. Ray Evans
    3. Bev I have Mary Evans d/o Burrell Patrick "Paddy" Evans and Charlottie Hill. Mary was born about 1851 in Overton County. I do not know who she married. Ray Evans ----- Original Message ----- From: <BumbB@aol.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages > Hello Ray, > I do not know who these people are but thought maybe you could tell me > if > you are kin to a MJ Evans that married a James A Hawkins in Overton > County. > Thanks > Bev Hanner > > > In a message dated 6/28/2008 8:00:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > rnevans@bellsouth.net writes: > > Florence LEDFORD and SC EVANS married in Overton County 16 April 1898. ML > BOWMAN was the surety. > > Albert EVANS and Nancy LOOPER married in Overton County 20 May 1873. > > Anyone know who the folks are? > > Ray Evans > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/29/2008 01:16:18
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages
    2. Ray, Albert EVANS was James Albert EVANS, born about 1851 in TN. I do not know who his parents were. James Albert married Nancy LOOPER, daughter of Daniel LOOPER and Elizabeth BOWMAN. James Albert and Nancy had four children in 1880 Census: Josephine born about 1873. Julia A. born about 1874. Daniel born about 1877. Sarah born about 1879. The family was in the 1880 Overton Co, TN census. In 1900 Census, James A. was in Morgan County, TN, with a new wife and several stepchildren. In 1910 "J.A." was still in Morgan Co, TN, and reported that he had been married 4 times. Vonnie Looper Munnerlyn --- rnevans@bellsouth.net wrote: From: "Ray Evans" <rnevans@bellsouth.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:58:44 -0400 Florence LEDFORD and SC EVANS married in Overton County 16 April 1898. ML BOWMAN was the surety. Albert EVANS and Nancy LOOPER married in Overton County 20 May 1873. Anyone know who the folks are? Ray Evans ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/28/2008 09:53:00
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages
    2. Hello Ray, I do not know who these people are but thought maybe you could tell me if you are kin to a MJ Evans that married a James A Hawkins in Overton County. Thanks Bev Hanner In a message dated 6/28/2008 8:00:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rnevans@bellsouth.net writes: Florence LEDFORD and SC EVANS married in Overton County 16 April 1898. ML BOWMAN was the surety. Albert EVANS and Nancy LOOPER married in Overton County 20 May 1873. Anyone know who the folks are? Ray Evans ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/28/2008 06:50:12
    1. [TNOVERTO] A couple of Evans' marriages
    2. Ray Evans
    3. Florence LEDFORD and SC EVANS married in Overton County 16 April 1898. ML BOWMAN was the surety. Albert EVANS and Nancy LOOPER married in Overton County 20 May 1873. Anyone know who the folks are? Ray Evans

    06/28/2008 02:58:44
    1. [TNOVERTO] Algood Cemetery location
    2. Can anyone on this list give me directions to the Algood Cemetery. Going from the Post Office in Algood can you give me directions? Thank you, **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/27/2008 01:12:26
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] Algood Cemetery location
    2. Dishman
    3. B J If you coming from the Walmart and pass the post office which will be on your left then pass the police department that is on you left turn the next street to the right it will be beside a building where they have an auction on Friday nights after you turn right go up to the next intersection which should be a 4 way turn left follow this street around until you get the the cemetery it should be on you left if you follow this road pass the cemetery it will bring you out up on brotherton mountain and even up at Monterey also. Ron Dishman -----Original Message----- From: tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnoverto-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BFAR44@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:12 PM To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNOVERTO] Algood Cemetery location Can anyone on this list give me directions to the Algood Cemetery. Going from the Post Office in Algood can you give me directions? Thank you, **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/27/2008 12:46:59
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] CD's now available
    2. Are there CD's for Court Records from different years? My great grandfather was killed in Overton county and although I have some of the court records on paper it is hard to read. Thank you Allison Jones **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/23/2008 04:13:22
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] CD's now available
    2. Dorles Barber
    3. Margaret: Where did you buy the Overton County Court Minutes Feb 1844-1849? I am interested in only one case. Are you willing to look up a court case from 1848? If so, please E-mail me at d.barber@mchsi.com and maybe we can work out how I can reimburse you for your search. Dorles Barber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Phillips" <mnphill@mindspring.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] CD's now available > Awhile ago I purchased a CD of the county court minutes Feb 1844-Nov 1849. > Do you know if there is available a CD of the court minutes 1839-1844? > Thanks for your time. > Margaret > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dishman" <dishman@twlakes.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:45 AM > Subject: [TNOVERTO] CD's now available > > >> NOW AVAILABLE >> >> CD'S >> >> >> OVERTON COUNTY TN HISTORY & GENEALOGY >> >> >> >> CD Overton County Historical Society Newsletters 1997-2007 11 >> years/44issues $40 or $45 if shipped (a portion of this is donated to the >> Historical Society & Heritage Museum) >> >> >> >> >> >> CD Overton County WPA Writers Project 1941 81 pages also Checklist >> of >> Cemeteries & Graveyards by Ethel Reneau 1939 WPA project 52 pages $25 or >> $30 >> if shipped. >> >> >> >> The WPA Writers Project CD is really got a lot of information on it >> including various community history and statistics history on Standing >> Stone >> Park, Zollicoffer Lake, just a lot of history. >> >> >> >> >> >> CD Overton County Birth & Death Records 1908-1912 $20 or $25 >> Shipped >> 185 pages >> >> >> >> CD Overton County Birth & Death Records 1925-1938 $25 or $30 >> Shipped >> 241 pages >> >> If both Birth & Death CD's above are bought together they will be $40 or >> $45 >> shipped >> >> >> >> These can be ordered or picked up from me. >> >> >> >> Ron Dishman >> >> P.O. Box 283 >> >> Livingston TN 38570 >> >> >> >> researcher@twlakes.net >> >> >> >> Overton County Historical Society newsletter they are available from the >> Historical Society for $10 per year or 11 years $110 plus shipping >> contact >> O.C.H.S. at P.O. Box 753 Livingston TN 38570 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/23/2008 09:41:58
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] CD's now available
    2. Margaret Phillips
    3. Awhile ago I purchased a CD of the county court minutes Feb 1844-Nov 1849. Do you know if there is available a CD of the court minutes 1839-1844? Thanks for your time. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dishman" <dishman@twlakes.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: [TNOVERTO] CD's now available > NOW AVAILABLE > > CD'S > > > OVERTON COUNTY TN HISTORY & GENEALOGY > > > > CD Overton County Historical Society Newsletters 1997-2007 11 > years/44issues $40 or $45 if shipped (a portion of this is donated to the > Historical Society & Heritage Museum) > > > > > > CD Overton County WPA Writers Project 1941 81 pages also Checklist > of > Cemeteries & Graveyards by Ethel Reneau 1939 WPA project 52 pages $25 or > $30 > if shipped. > > > > The WPA Writers Project CD is really got a lot of information on it > including various community history and statistics history on Standing > Stone > Park, Zollicoffer Lake, just a lot of history. > > > > > > CD Overton County Birth & Death Records 1908-1912 $20 or $25 Shipped > 185 pages > > > > CD Overton County Birth & Death Records 1925-1938 $25 or $30 > Shipped > 241 pages > > If both Birth & Death CD's above are bought together they will be $40 or > $45 > shipped > > > > These can be ordered or picked up from me. > > > > Ron Dishman > > P.O. Box 283 > > Livingston TN 38570 > > > > researcher@twlakes.net > > > > Overton County Historical Society newsletter they are available from the > Historical Society for $10 per year or 11 years $110 plus shipping contact > O.C.H.S. at P.O. Box 753 Livingston TN 38570 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/21/2008 10:43:01
    1. [TNOVERTO] Rufus W, John (jack), James, Stephen Langford
    2. D&R
    3. What I hope to accomplish is to sort the four lines out ( Stephen and James Langford who first appeared in Jackson Co TN. about 1814. & Rufus Wiley Langford and John (Jack) Langford first appear on the 1830 Census in Overton County TN. My experience has been from genealogical research is; that just because people with the same surname appeared in a small area with in the same time period does not make them related to each other. At times it works out they are ----but with out positive proof , it is wrong to make that assessment. ---Rufus Wiley must have been married pre 1820 to Nancy Hardy ,as their first child , born 1820 died 1820 was born in Texas. ( way back when Texas was still a part of Mexico.) Census tell us Rufus Wiley Langford was born in S.C.in 1800. In his case he may have move to middle TN. young. DNA tested back to a Henry Langford who died ca. 1792-96 in Greenville S.C. Rufus would to have been from one of his sons, Rufus Wiley Langford was not born till 1800. I only know of two sons Henry Sr (d-1792-6) had (1)Henry Jr. who obtained the family farm in Greenville co S.C. as he died ca 1860 on that farm, this Henry jr's Will is in the Greenville Court House. It was highly contested by one of his daughters (husband, as women had no rights)..and is pages long. I do have a abstract of the Will. The other known son is (2) Benjamin Langford, who did appear on some early Greenville records, he married Martha Pace and eventually moved to Pope Co ARK. It is from him that the Bandera Texas Langford descend from. (they have their own web site and also if you Google just ; "Benjamin Langford/Pope CO AK" . you may pull up data on him) My thought is that Rufus Wiley Langford is form a still unknown son. But who? Rufus we know was a off and on lifetime member of the "Roaring River Baptist Church" in Overton County. In that churches early records 1806 there is mentioned of a "Langford", (no given name) I am too many miles away , to exam of those records of that church. It may tell the tale of who Rufus father was. DNA will put you in family group/western Europe/ or etc. As more people get DNA tested for genealogy and list their oldest ancestor. Eventually a family picture takes place. Three people who names remain unknown to anyone, except them selves and the lab who does the testing> You may view the DNA results will only see that oldest ancestors name. In Rufus case you see Henry and Martha Pace. A person who I know who always thought Rufus and James were brothers, a excellent researcher took the DNA test We were super surprised, when the test came back and he shared with us the results (his choice to share) He came out to match " Henry and Martha Pace" It opened up a whole new world to us who had spent years researching. Now we question everything and with out positive proof, everything else is a myth. I have attached the link to this email so you may your self look at the Langford-Lankford DNA project. If you do not want anyone to know you are the one who took the test no one will ever know as that is personnel info. and only the person taking the test may choose to disclose it and then only to those he wishes to share it with.. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Langford&fixed_columns=on The 4th Langford in that area of TN was: John( Jack) Langford who was married to Mary POLLY Crane ca 1812 most likely in S.C. He was born ca 1788 S.C. (census/ages of children) This John Langford served in the War of 1812. Where he lived between 1815-1830 ----------is still a unknown factor . No proof, only myths. I have seen where he was on the roll as having served under Capt Hodges in the War of 1812. also a abstract of his widow Mary Polly (crane) Langford Pension Application, where she had applied for a pension after John had departed. BUT never have I found anyone that sent for his service record. ( which may or may not tell us anything about his "roots". My interest is this, my husband and siblings asked me in 2002 to find their grandmother Langford family history. They want to know their "Heritage". I am at this point in this search: "A land trans action deed was signed by Eli Langford (sr), Josiah Langford, Stephen Langford and James Langford signed 1814 in Jackson County TN. dealing with some property that was located ion the North Carolina/South Carolina border. " It was one brother selling to his father, who in turn sold to another son. That son did return to that area and live out a good deal of his life time on the N.C.-S.C. border.. We have been able to establish that Stephen & James were brothers, sons of Eli & Sarah Langford Sr. Note: In none of the records does Eli sign with the Sr, ----- because there are several Eli's with in this family it is my way to note it as so far the oldest "Eli" Anyone interested in these families or remotely related to them is welcome to join our little group seeking out the answers to what our Langford "Heritage is" So far DNA has told us western Europe, but when did they arrive in America and where did they live before TN. Why were they in S.C.? It will be interesting to see how History/records tell the story of our Heritage.. A clue here and a clue there sometimes is that little piece we are searching for. ( A big Puzzle.) Rose C Dcran41266@comcast.net

    06/21/2008 01:39:47
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] Rufus Wiley LANGFORD, Sr.
    2. In a message dated 6/19/2008 9:03:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dcran41266@comcast.net writes: Rufus Wiley Langford who's line I just posted to about 1860 was DNA tested and proved out to be from the Henry Langford Sr lineage who settled first 1786 in Franklin County GA, and then moved to Greenville Co S.C. about 1792 and died ca 1794 in Greenville Co S.C. This DNA test matched a line that now reaches to Bandera Texas. .Rufus Wiley Langford born 12-6-1800 in South Carolina and died 4-27-1876 in Overton Co., TN is my direct line thru their daughter Nancy, born in Overton Co., TN on Dec 18, 1835, married Thomas W. Murphy Dec 27, 1855, and died Overton Co., TN Dec 12th 1866. Is the HENRY LANGFORD you mentioned above, the father/grandfather of Rufus Wiley Langford? I notice that you have Henry as dying about 1794, could he have been alive in 1800 when Wiley R. was born? I appreciate any response from any Langford descendants, Thanks in advance for any information. Bobbie Murphy Farley **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/20/2008 02:31:14
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD
    2. D&R
    3. Gosh good to hear from you. I am going to need all the help I can get on this lineage. And please feel free to contact me as I work through it next week. This is the line of the four Langford's that settled in Jackson/Overton County 1814-1830 That I know the least about. Together we can solve it. What is established by DNA testing is that Stephen and James who lived in Jackson/Clay County and their older brother Matthew ( born 1775) are brothers, all sons of Eli Sr. (born ca 1744 location unknown d. ca 1822-4 TN) Rufus Wiley Langford who's line I just posted to about 1860 was DNA tested and proved out to be from the Henry Langford Sr lineage who settled first 1786 in Franklin County GA, and then moved to Greenville Co S.C. about 1792 and died ca 1794 in Greenville Co S.C. This DNA test matched a line that now reaches to Bandera Texas. Is John ( Jack) part of either of these two very different blood lines? It remains unknown until DNA test is performed. Never the less we can look for documents, land deeds, service records, marriage bonds, tax list and etc. We ALL are able to start the wheels forward, Children and their children. . I have no idea what the earliest known record of this John ( Jack) Langford is? ( born ca 1788 S.C) Note: Birth date and place are based on census data. Maybe we can reach back in our record box and pull out those defiles. I will try over the weekend,post the first generations of john (Jack) Langford, and then ask every one to add to it, correct it and etc.. You monition SMITH MAhulda Smith daughter of William Smith of Overton co TN. married Joshua B. LAngofrd son of James Langford about 1844 in Overton Co. By 1851 they had moved to MO. Is that part of your family? Rose c . , June 19, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that Malinda > dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding Smith...He > did > marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very > close > to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family > believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly > Crane > would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ Smith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > >>I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford >>family >>who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. >> I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. >> This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed for a >> pension off her husbands service. >> They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. This >> John List his birth place in S.C... >> I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed every >> tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. >> 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not have >> been this John. >> A simple clue might shed some light. >> That i do not have right now. >> I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that >> lineage.. >> Rose C >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/19/2008 04:02:20
    1. Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD
    2. Leslie McKusker
    3. I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith.  I have an 1860 census where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee.  I have her father as John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in Jackson, Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South Carolina and d. 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that Malinda dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding Smith...He did marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very close to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly Crane would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford family >who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. > I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. > This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed for a > pension off her husbands service. > They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. This > John List his birth place in S.C... > I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed every > tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. > 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not have > been this John. > A simple clue might shed some light. > That i do not have right now. > I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that > lineage.. > Rose C > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/19/2008 04:55:02