No as there are more than one, land transaction between Stephen and Eli SRand also with some of the other siblings in that family. Most are in South Carolina a few in southern North Carolina. John Langford and Patsy Duke of Warren County North Carolina are NOT the parents. This John died June 09 1828 in Warren Co NC. He was Married to Martha "Patsy"Duke June 27 1787 in Warren Co N.C. who died at a later date. Their children were According to the Will he left. Ben D. born 1795 Delia T born ca 1796 Sarah M born 1796 died 1870-1872 in warren Co NC Mary H. born Feb 02 1802 Alice TO born Oct 25 1804 John Dole Langford SR born Oct 25 1804 died Sept 21 1882 in warren co NC Machala W. born ca 1811 died DEC 11 1867 NC ------------------------------------------------------ I most likely read the same book you did, and thought nice! all done, Then I wanted to know who this Johns parents were.. ( my mistake) two years and volumes of film, books I found his Will. also a early land deed. They never lived in South Carolina, the family had moved down from Landenberg VA. His father was George Langford and mother was Judith. Threw it all in a tote box and started searching again. All was not wasted as about last Dec. I went to share bits of it with the Langford list. Hence a book is forth coming from descendants of that family, the research I had was the pieces they were missing to connect their family. So I do feel great about that! Yep I sent all my notes/research to them! In about another two years, a trip to the TN Archives I found what was my first was the first hint that Eli Sr may be the father.. of James and Stephen. ( James oldest son is named Eli Holman Langford born ca 1818 Jackson Co TN. In fact in the 1820 census James Lankford is listed as head of household, he shows himself, his wife, their young son and Male over 45 years of age living with them.. It is thought it was Eli sr, who certainly passed away shortly there after. he would have been now about 875-80 years of age. Digging deeper and have now for three years and nothing has told me it is otherwise. I can tell you volumes about Eli sr and all his children. James was the youngest. born 1797 As for this John (Jack) Langford I have no idea. While I was on this search trying to find James daddy (our lineage) I did run into a John Langford in Rowan County N.C. he did marry a Martha Whitehead. he shows in the 1790 census and in about 1794, there is a land transaction for them, they sold their land in Rowan County N.C. and I have never located him again. My thoughts are that John (Jack) who turns up in Overton Co 1830 Census is very possible lived in that northwest corner of S.C as he served under Hodges and Nash. with out looking one of the two families owned the post-office/store at Merrittsville S.C. (Greenv ille Co ( the town is no more but is under the lake /town water supply) Not far from this Post Office there also lived a Charley Crane.. could that have been Mary Polly Crane Langford's family? Source: old map of Greenville Co. If so that places this John in Greenville Co., sort of.. Who ever the other Langford is who served with in the same unit as John (jack) died in the War of 1812. I feel sure was related to him. I need to look who it was. ( I will get back to you with that.) Please feel free to ask me questions.. And I will dig out my notes and shrew what other Langford's were in that area in that time period. It would be nice to find something that is solid as to where and who his family was.., is! At least that is my goal. Rose C ----- Original Message ----- From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] John LAngford and MAry Polly Crane Hi Rose... Could you have the wrong John Langford 1728- 1796?.. There were many John Langfords!....I show Jack's father John Sr.1758- 1800+...John Sr. son of Nicholas .1730- 1758 & Martha Patsy Duke ... other Children: STEPHAN b.1789 m. Jane Holcomb,... JAMES b.1797 m. Polly Holman, ...SARAH b.1799 m. Duke Allen ,... RUFUS WILEY b. 1800 m. Nancy Hardy. Other Children of Nicholas: ELI b. abt. 1754 & ROBERT b. abt 1752,,,, Nicholas son of NICHOLAS Sr. 1730 - 1758.... All of this is from others research, so I can't verify....Could the land deed be between Stephan & his Uncle Eli? Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: [TNOVERTO] John LAngford and MAry Polly Crane I am working on the four Langford's who were in Jackson-Overton County TN early on.( 1820-1830. 1.- Stephen (born 1788 S.C.) who we know was Eli's son 1820 Jackson Co TN (Lankford) ( Land deed dated 1814 Jackson Co between Eli sr and this Stephen) 2,-James ( born 1797S.C.), brother to Stephen a and assumed Eli's son. ( born 1797S.C.) 1820 Jackson County TN Lankford)( Land Deed dated 1814 between Stephen and Eli Sr, Josiah and James Langford witness) 3.Rufus Wiley-( born 1800 S.C.) who at this point and time seems to be from Henry Langford lineage. ( DNA results from descendant) 1820 somewhere in Texas as they and a son born 1820 in Texas) He came to Overton County or back to(?) about 1821-22. 4.Then there was John (Jack)( born 1787-88) who served in the War of 1812.. their family tradition says he was the son of a Rev. John Cranston. He married Mary Polly Crane ca 1811-1816 location unknown There was a book written about 1978 that sits in the Overton County public Library that says these four are brothers. ( great research for the era it was written in) That is not a fact, in fact not at all. Now the job is to finish clearing this up completely. We need to know who this John (Jack) family was ( parent sand siblings) and where was he is the 1820 Census? There was also another Langford who served in the War of 1812 who enlisted with this John= who shows in Overton County TN in the 1830 Census. If you look at the birth dates and look at the Will date of Rev. John Langford.. 1796 it is not possible for him to have been the father of James born 1797 or of Rufus Wiley born 1800. Rose c Please help with this project.. HELP!! So we can straighten this out and be factual about it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here is some interesting reading about John Langford of Newberry County, SC Page 130 taken from George Shealy's 1981 "Sketches about Langford's" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------130Will of JohnLangford (c. 1728-1796)Copied from the Original in Loose PapersProbate Office, Newberry CountyCourthouse Newberry, South CarolinaIn theName of God Amen. I John Langford of theState of South Carolina and NewberryCounty. Being Sickand weak in Body and of perfect mind and Memory, Thanksbegiven to God, Calling to Mind the Mortality of my Body and Knowing thatit isappointed for all Men Once to Die do make and Ordain this my Last WillandTestament, as Touching my Worldly Estate wherewith it hath pleased Godtobless me in this Life, I Give devise and dispose of the Same in thefollowingmannerand formFirst I given unto my Son William one feather bed and a Horseand a Cow andCalf these being Delivered and half the Tract ! of Land that I now am Livingon it being on the West Side of Bufl! owCreek..Also, I Give unto my Son Joab one feather bed and a Mare and a CowandCalf these being Delivered and the Other half of the Same Tract of LanditLying on the East side of the Creek the Creek to be the Dividing Line.AlsoI Give unto my Daughter Anna one feather bed and a Mare a Cow andCalfthese being Delivered and a Tract of two Hundred Acres of Land LyingJoiningthe Back Line of my Other Tract and Carters Line.Also to my Grand Son AsaLangford I Give One Shilling Sterling.Also I do Give unto Loving Wife allthe Rest of my Goodsand Chattels, and personnal Estate whatsoever,. Lastly Ido make andConstitute my Said Wife Executix and my Son William Executer ofthis my LastWill and Testament. In Witness Whereof I have Set my hand andSeal thisSixteenth Day of Junein the Year of Our Lord One Thousand SevenHundred and Ninety-One. hisJacob FreeJohnLangford-----------------(seal) ! MarkJoseph CottonJoab Langford Will proved February29! th1796---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pages 129 and 131 taken from George Shealy's 1981"Sketches aboutLangfords"129There is tradition that John Langford, Jr. isburied near present dayGranitesville, s.c. that would not be close, but inthe general area of old,now extinct, Campbellton, S.C. The Rev. J.J.langford named Campbell town asthe community (in Goergia?) where hisgrandfather John ,Langford, Jr. lived.In those early days there was aCampbellton (not Campbelltown) in SouthCarolina just above Augusta, Ga. Thiswould indicate John Langford, Jr.lived on the Georgia side of the SavannahRiver. Of interest--there was, in1770, a Campbellton in Anson County, NorthCarolina. At least two Langfords,James and William, are named as signers ofpetitions there between1770-1789.The Will of John Langford c.1728-l! 796 Copied from the OriginalThe will of the above John Langford as givenon page seven of this book(a reprint of the! first edition) is, in part, inerror. The son named asJacob in that will should have been recorded as Joab.John Langford appearsnot to have had a son named Jacob. See comments onJacob and Joab pages 9 to11, this book. The source of the above version ofthe will was from thefilesof the South Carolina State Archives, labeledreference, Newberry CountyWills (W.P.A.) Vol. 1, Bk A, page 147. It appearsthat the W.P.A. workersmade an error when they prepared the typewrittencopy. They used the nameJacob, when the name should have been Joab.Afterthis writer published the above W.P.A. version of the will in 1977Mrs.Fletcher Derrick, the former Lois Langford obtained xeroxed copies ofboththe original hand written will and the original Inventory of Estate.Thesewere among loose papers, probate office, Newberry County. TheInventory ofEstate was signed by John L! angford's Executrix WinefredLangford (his wife) and Executor William Langford (a son).Mrs. Derrick made available to this writer ! xeroxed copies ofboth of theabove named documents. The will has been c opied word for word andline forline as in the original will and is attached. Spelling has beenfollowed asin the original.John Langford - Baptist Minister Cloud CreekBaptist Church - 1790Evidence at hand strongly indicates John Langford,c.1728-l796 was a BaptistMinister. A book entitled "South CarolinaBaptists," pages 169-170 mentionsCloud Creek Baptist Church, later calledWest Creek Baptist Church. It namesRev. John Langford as minister in 1790.It also mentions that in 1791, Rev.John Langford was in the congregation butnot preaching.We mention the age and health of John Langford c.1728-l796 of-BuffaloCreek, whose home appears to have been close by this church. Thiswriter hasestimated his birth as c.1728. Others have suggested it may havebeen 1725or even five or more years earlier. This would indicate an age offrom 62 to65 years or more! . The above John Langford made a will in 1791 saying he wassick and weak inbody. This indicates his health was such that he could nolonger p! reach, eventhough he lived some five years more. Cloud Creek Baptist Church wasin old Edgefield County, now SaludaCounty. Its exact location has not beenidentified by this writer. Old maps(cont'd page 131)131of Edgefield County (1817) and Newberry County (1820)indicate that the areain which John Langford lived on Buffalo Creek,Newberry County wasrelatively close to the Cloud Creek in Edgefield County.The distance wasprobably with­in ten miles, but on opposite sides of theSaluda River.John Langford died in 1796 and the "Inventory of his Estate"indicates hemay have preached. Listed in the Estate were his Bible, hisTestament, hishymn book and his Practice of Piety.Mrs. Coleman Jeffcoat, theformer Maude Langfo! rd of Lexington, S.C. whosemother was a member of the West Creek Baptist Church, was contactedfor possible historic information. She stated, shehad been unable touncover local history on the Cloud Creek Church but sentsome informationabout the West Creek Church. S! he mentioned that her sisterClaudia RebeccaLangford Boatwright who die d in September 1941 and her fatherHarry LeeLangford, who died in March 1957, had first been buried in thatchurchyard,but later their bodies were moved to the Batesburg Cemetery whereher sisterVirginia Langford Clements had been buried in 1971. She alsosentinformation from a publica­tion prepared in 1970 about Saluda County bytheSaluda County Tri-centennial Commission. That publication entitled"SaludaCounty in Scene and Story" mentioned the Cloud Creek Church andbrieflydiscussed the West Creek Church as follows."The details surroundingthe early days of the West Creek Baptist Church areobscure, except for thefact that the church was organized in 1790 by theNathan Norris family. Atthat time a building for ! the purpose of worship waserected near Cloud's Creek and the church wasfirst known as the Cloud'sCreek Baptist Church. Later, a new building waserected on the site nowknown as "Crouch's Dairy." At this time the name ofthe body was changedfrom Cloud's Creek Baptist Church to ! West Creek BaptistChurch. In the year1882, after several families had separated themselvesfrom the body tocon­stitute the Batesburg Baptist Church, property wasprocured and abuilding was erected on the site where the church nowstands."As the church grew in numbers, Sunday School rooms were added. Asneeds forspace continued to press, in 1952 a complete educational plantwasconstructed, and the auditorium (which is the original building onthissite) vas enlarged and brick veneered.".Calk Family William and JamesCalk We mention Calk family because William Calk was the second husband of_cyPressnel Langford, the mother of Asa and James Langford. It was the :wuseofWilliam Calk in which the two above! mentioned Langford boys grew up aftertheir father's death.The two Calk men in the community were William (c.l756-l832) and JamesCalk(c.1754-l824) who came from the low country of South Carolina to theupcountry during the Revolutionary War. Both were ardent patriots andmembersof Capt. ! Philemon Waters Company Mounted Rifles during theRevolution.William wa s a sargeant and James a private. Accounts describeboth as bravemen but their behavior and personality habits have beenindicated asopposite.-------------------------------To unsubscribe from thelist, please send an email toTNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toTNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rose... Could you have the wrong John Langford 1728- 1796?.. There were many John Langfords!....I show Jack's father John Sr.1758- 1800+...John Sr. son of Nicholas .1730- 1758 & Martha Patsy Duke ... other Children: STEPHAN b.1789 m. Jane Holcomb,... JAMES b.1797 m. Polly Holman, ...SARAH b.1799 m. Duke Allen ,... RUFUS WILEY b. 1800 m. Nancy Hardy. Other Children of Nicholas: ELI b. abt. 1754 & ROBERT b. abt 1752,,,, Nicholas son of NICHOLAS Sr. 1730 - 1758.... All of this is from others research, so I can't verify....Could the land deed be between Stephan & his Uncle Eli? Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: [TNOVERTO] John LAngford and MAry Polly Crane I am working on the four Langford's who were in Jackson-Overton County TN early on.( 1820-1830. 1.- Stephen (born 1788 S.C.) who we know was Eli's son 1820 Jackson Co TN (Lankford) ( Land deed dated 1814 Jackson Co between Eli sr and this Stephen) 2,-James ( born 1797S.C.), brother to Stephen a and assumed Eli's son. ( born 1797S.C.) 1820 Jackson County TN Lankford)( Land Deed dated 1814 between Stephen and Eli Sr, Josiah and James Langford witness) 3.Rufus Wiley-( born 1800 S.C.) who at this point and time seems to be from Henry Langford lineage. ( DNA results from descendant) 1820 somewhere in Texas as they and a son born 1820 in Texas) He came to Overton County or back to(?) about 1821-22. 4.Then there was John (Jack)( born 1787-88) who served in the War of 1812.. their family tradition says he was the son of a Rev. John Cranston. He married Mary Polly Crane ca 1811-1816 location unknown There was a book written about 1978 that sits in the Overton County public Library that says these four are brothers. ( great research for the era it was written in) That is not a fact, in fact not at all. Now the job is to finish clearing this up completely. We need to know who this John (Jack) family was ( parent sand siblings) and where was he is the 1820 Census? There was also another Langford who served in the War of 1812 who enlisted with this John= who shows in Overton County TN in the 1830 Census. If you look at the birth dates and look at the Will date of Rev. John Langford.. 1796 it is not possible for him to have been the father of James born 1797 or of Rufus Wiley born 1800. Rose c Please help with this project.. HELP!! So we can straighten this out and be factual about it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here is some interesting reading about John Langford of Newberry County, SC Page 130 taken from George Shealy's 1981 "Sketches about Langford's" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------130 Will of JohnLangford (c. 1728-1796)Copied from the Original in Loose Papers Probate Office, Newberry CountyCourthouse Newberry, South CarolinaIn the Name of God Amen. I John Langford of theState of South Carolina and Newberry County. Being Sickand weak in Body and of perfect mind and Memory, Thanksbe given to God, Calling to Mind the Mortality of my Body and Knowing thatit is appointed for all Men Once to Die do make and Ordain this my Last Willand Testament, as Touching my Worldly Estate wherewith it hath pleased Godto bless me in this Life, I Give devise and dispose of the Same in thefollowing mannerand formFirst I given unto my Son William one feather bed and a Horse and a Cow andCalf these being Delivered and half the Tract ! of Land that I now am Livingon it being on the West Side of Buflow Creek..Also, I Give unto my Son Joab one feather bed and a Mare and a Cow andCalf these being Delivered and the Other half of the Same Tract of Land itLying on the East side of the Creek the Creek to be the Dividing Line.Also I Give unto my Daughter Anna one feather bed and a Mare a Cow andCalf these being Delivered and a Tract of two Hundred Acres of Land LyingJoining the Back Line of my Other Tract and Carters Line.Also to my Grand Son Asa Langford I Give One Shilling Sterling.Also I do Give unto Loving Wife all the Rest of my Goodsand Chattels, and personnal Estate whatsoever,. Lastly I do make andConstitute my Said Wife Executix and my Son William Executer of this my LastWill and Testament. In Witness Whereof I have Set my hand and Seal thisSixteenth Day of Junein the Year of Our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety-One. hisJacob FreeJohn Langford-----------------(seal) ! MarkJoseph CottonJoab Langford Will proved February 29th1796-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pages 129 and 131 taken from George Shealy's 1981 "Sketches aboutLangfords"129There is tradition that John Langford, Jr. is buried near present dayGranitesville, s.c. that would not be close, but in the general area of old,now extinct, Campbellton, S.C. The Rev. J.J. langford named Campbell town asthe community (in Goergia?) where his grandfather John ,Langford, Jr. lived.In those early days there was a Campbellton (not Campbelltown) in SouthCarolina just above Augusta, Ga. This would indicate John Langford, Jr.lived on the Georgia side of the Savannah River. Of interest--there was, in1770, a Campbellton in Anson County, North Carolina. At least two Langfords,James and William, are named as signers of petitions there between1770-1789.The Will of John Langford c.1728-l! 796 Copied from the OriginalThe will of the above John Langford as given on page seven of this book(a reprint of the first edition) is, in part, in error. The son named asJacob in that will should have been recorded as Joab. John Langford appearsnot to have had a son named Jacob. See comments on Jacob and Joab pages 9 to11, this book. The source of the above version of the will was from thefilesof the South Carolina State Archives, labeled reference, Newberry CountyWills (W.P.A.) Vol. 1, Bk A, page 147. It appears that the W.P.A. workersmade an error when they prepared the typewritten copy. They used the nameJacob, when the name should have been Joab.After this writer published the above W.P.A. version of the will in 1977Mrs. Fletcher Derrick, the former Lois Langford obtained xeroxed copies ofboth the original hand written will and the original Inventory of Estate.These were among loose papers, probate office, Newberry County. TheInventory of Estate was signed by John L! angford's Executrix WinefredLangford (his wife) and Executor William L angford (a son).Mrs. Derrick made available to this writer xeroxed copies of both of theabove named documents. The will has been copied word for word and line forline as in the original will and is attached. Spelling has been followed asin the original.John Langford - Baptist Minister Cloud Creek Baptist Church - 1790Evidence at hand strongly indicates John Langford, c.1728-l796 was a BaptistMinister. A book entitled "South Carolina Baptists," pages 169-170 mentionsCloud Creek Baptist Church, later called West Creek Baptist Church. It namesRev. John Langford as minister in 1790. It also mentions that in 1791, Rev.John Langford was in the congregation but not preaching.We mention the age and health of John Langford c.1728-l796 of- BuffaloCreek, whose home appears to have been close by this church. This writer hasestimated his birth as c.1728. Others have suggested it may have been 1725or even five or more years earlier. This would indicate an age of from 62 to65 years or more! . The above John Langford made a will in 1791 saying he wassick and weak in body. This indicates his health was such that he could nolonger preach, even though he lived some five years more. Cloud Creek Baptist Church was in old Edgefield County, now SaludaCounty. Its exact location has not been identified by this writer. Old maps (cont'd page 131)131of Edgefield County (1817) and Newberry County (1820) indicate that the areain which John Langford lived on Buffalo Creek, Newberry County wasrelatively close to the Cloud Creek in Edgefield County. The distance wasprobably with­in ten miles, but on opposite sides of the Saluda River.John Langford died in 1796 and the "Inventory of his Estate" indicates hemay have preached. Listed in the Estate were his Bible, his Testament, hishymn book and his Practice of Piety.Mrs. Coleman Jeffcoat, the former Maude Langfo! rd of Lexington, S.C. whosemother was a member of the West Creek Bapti st Church, was contactedfor possible historic information. She stated, she had been unable touncover local history on the Cloud Creek Church but sent some informationabout the West Creek Church. She mentioned that her sister Claudia RebeccaLangford Boatwright who died in September 1941 and her father Harry LeeLangford, who died in March 1957, had first been buried in that churchyard,but later their bodies were moved to the Batesburg Cemetery where her sisterVirginia Langford Clements had been buried in 1971. She also sentinformation from a publica­tion prepared in 1970 about Saluda County by theSaluda County Tri-centennial Commission. That publication entitled "SaludaCounty in Scene and Story" mentioned the Cloud Creek Church and brieflydiscussed the West Creek Church as follows."The details surrounding the early days of the West Creek Baptist Church areobscure, except for the fact that the church was organized in 1790 by theNathan Norris family. At that time a building for ! the purpose of worship waserected near Cloud's Creek and the church was first known as the Cloud'sCreek Baptist Church. Later, a new building was erected on the site nowknown as "Crouch's Dairy." At this time the name of the body was changedfrom Cloud's Creek Baptist Church to West Creek Baptist Church. In the year1882, after several families had separated themselves from the body tocon­stitute the Batesburg Baptist Church, property was procured and abuilding was erected on the site where the church now stands."As the church grew in numbers, Sunday School rooms were added. As needs forspace continued to press, in 1952 a complete educational plant wasconstructed, and the auditorium (which is the original building on thissite) vas enlarged and brick veneered.".Calk Family William and James Calk We mention Calk family because William Calk was the second husband of _cyPressnel Langford, the mother of Asa and James Langford. It was the :wuse ofWilliam Calk in which the two above! mentioned Langford boys grew up aftertheir father's death.The two Cal k men in the community were William (c.l756-l832) and James Calk(c.1754-l824) who came from the low country of South Carolina to the upcountry during the Revolutionary War. Both were ardent patriots and membersof Capt. Philemon Waters Company Mounted Rifles during the Revolution.William was a sargeant and James a private. Accounts describe both as bravemen but their behavior and personality habits have been indicated asopposite.-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toTNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

I am working on the four Langford's who were in Jackson-Overton County TN early on.( 1820-1830. 1.- Stephen (born 1788 S.C.) who we know was Eli's son 1820 Jackson Co TN (Lankford) ( Land deed dated 1814 Jackson Co between Eli sr and this Stephen) 2,-James ( born 1797S.C.), brother to Stephen a and assumed Eli's son. ( born 1797S.C.) 1820 Jackson County TN Lankford)( Land Deed dated 1814 between Stephen and Eli Sr, Josiah and James Langford witness) 3.Rufus Wiley-( born 1800 S.C.) who at this point and time seems to be from Henry Langford lineage. ( DNA results from descendant) 1820 somewhere in Texas as they and a son born 1820 in Texas) He came to Overton County or back to(?) about 1821-22. 4.Then there was John (Jack)( born 1787-88) who served in the War of 1812.. their family tradition says he was the son of a Rev. John Cranston. He married Mary Polly Crane ca 1811-1816 location unknown There was a book written about 1978 that sits in the Overton County public Library that says these four are brothers. ( great research for the era it was written in) That is not a fact, in fact not at all. Now the job is to finish clearing this up completely. We need to know who this John (Jack) family was ( parent sand siblings) and where was he is the 1820 Census? There was also another Langford who served in the War of 1812 who enlisted with this John= who shows in Overton County TN in the 1830 Census. If you look at the birth dates and look at the Will date of Rev. John Langford.. 1796 it is not possible for him to have been the father of James born 1797 or of Rufus Wiley born 1800. Rose c Please help with this project.. HELP!! So we can straighten this out and be factual about it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here is some interesting reading about John Langford of Newberry County, SC Page 130 taken from George Shealy's 1981 "Sketches about Langford's" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 130 Will of John Langford (c. 1728-1796) Copied from the Original in Loose Papers Probate Office, Newberry County Courthouse Newberry, South Carolina In the Name of God Amen. I John Langford of the State of South Carolina and Newberry County. Being Sick and weak in Body and of perfect mind and Memory, Thanks be given to God, Calling to Mind the Mortality of my Body and Knowing that it is appointed for all Men Once to Die do make and Ordain this my Last Will and Testament, as Touching my Worldly Estate wherewith it hath pleased God to bless me in this Life, I Give devise and dispose of the Same in the following manner and form First I given unto my Son William one feather bed and a Horse and a Cow and Calf these being Delivered and half the Tract of Land that I now am Living on it being on the West Side of Buflow Creek.. Also, I Give unto my Son Joab one feather bed and a Mare and a Cow and Calf these being Delivered and the Other half of the Same Tract of Land it Lying on the East side of the Creek the Creek to be the Dividing Line. Also I Give unto my Daughter Anna one feather bed and a Mare a Cow and Calf these being Delivered and a Tract of two Hundred Acres of Land Lying Joining the Back Line of my Other Tract and Carters Line. Also to my Grand Son Asa Langford I Give One Shilling Sterling. Also I do Give unto Loving Wife all the Rest of my Goods and Chattels, and personnal Estate whatsoever,. Lastly I do make and Constitute my Said Wife Executix and my Son William Executer of this my Last Will and Testament. In Witness Whereof I have Set my hand and Seal this Sixteenth Day of June in the Year of Our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety-One. his Jacob Free John Langford-----------------(seal) Mark Joseph Cotton Joab Langford Will proved February 29th 1796 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pages 129 and 131 taken from George Shealy's 1981 "Sketches about Langfords" 129 There is tradition that John Langford, Jr. is buried near present day Granitesville, s.c. that would not be close, but in the general area of old, now extinct, Campbellton, S.C. The Rev. J.J. langford named Campbell town as the community (in Goergia?) where his grandfather John ,Langford, Jr. lived. In those early days there was a Campbellton (not Campbelltown) in South Carolina just above Augusta, Ga. This would indicate John Langford, Jr. lived on the Georgia side of the Savannah River. Of interest--there was, in 1770, a Campbellton in Anson County, North Carolina. At least two Langfords, James and William, are named as signers of petitions there between 1770-1789. The Will of John Langford c.1728-l796 Copied from the Original The will of the above John Langford as given on page seven of this book (a reprint of the first edition) is, in part, in error. The son named as Jacob in that will should have been recorded as Joab. John Langford appears not to have had a son named Jacob. See comments on Jacob and Joab pages 9 to 11, this book. The source of the above version of the will was from the files of the South Carolina State Archives, labeled reference, Newberry County Wills (W.P.A.) Vol. 1, Bk A, page 147. It appears that the W.P.A. workers made an error when they prepared the typewritten copy. They used the name Jacob, when the name should have been Joab. After this writer published the above W.P.A. version of the will in 1977 Mrs. Fletcher Derrick, the former Lois Langford obtained xeroxed copies of both the original hand written will and the original Inventory of Estate. These were among loose papers, probate office, Newberry County. The Inventory of Estate was signed by John Langford's Executrix Winefred Langford (his wife) and Executor William Langford (a son). Mrs. Derrick made available to this writer xeroxed copies of both of the above named documents. The will has been copied word for word and line for line as in the original will and is attached. Spelling has been followed as in the original. John Langford - Baptist Minister Cloud Creek Baptist Church - 1790 Evidence at hand strongly indicates John Langford, c.1728-l796 was a Baptist Minister. A book entitled "South Carolina Baptists," pages 169-170 mentions Cloud Creek Baptist Church, later called West Creek Baptist Church. It names Rev. John Langford as minister in 1790. It also mentions that in 1791, Rev. John Langford was in the congregation but not preaching. We mention the age and health of John Langford c.1728-l796 of- Buffalo Creek, whose home appears to have been close by this church. This writer has estimated his birth as c.1728. Others have suggested it may have been 1725 or even five or more years earlier. This would indicate an age of from 62 to 65 years or more. The above John Langford made a will in 1791 saying he was sick and weak in body. This indicates his health was such that he could no longer preach, even though he lived some five years more. Cloud Creek Baptist Church was in old Edgefield County, now Saluda County. Its exact location has not been identified by this writer. Old maps (cont'd page 131) 131 of Edgefield County (1817) and Newberry County (1820) indicate that the area in which John Langford lived on Buffalo Creek, Newberry County was relatively close to the Cloud Creek in Edgefield County. The distance was probably with­in ten miles, but on opposite sides of the Saluda River. John Langford died in 1796 and the "Inventory of his Estate" indicates he may have preached. Listed in the Estate were his Bible, his Testament, his hymn book and his Practice of Piety. Mrs. Coleman Jeffcoat, the former Maude Langford of Lexington, S.C. whose mother was a member of the West Creek Baptist Church, was contacted for possible historic information. She stated, she had been unable to uncover local history on the Cloud Creek Church but sent some information about the West Creek Church. She mentioned that her sister Claudia Rebecca Langford Boatwright who died in September 1941 and her father Harry Lee Langford, who died in March 1957, had first been buried in that churchyard, but later their bodies were moved to the Batesburg Cemetery where her sister Virginia Langford Clements had been buried in 1971. She also sent information from a publica­tion prepared in 1970 about Saluda County by the Saluda County Tri-centennial Commission. That publication entitled "Saluda County in Scene and Story" mentioned the Cloud Creek Church and briefly discussed the West Creek Church as follows. "The details surrounding the early days of the West Creek Baptist Church are obscure, except for the fact that the church was organized in 1790 by the Nathan Norris family. At that time a building for the purpose of worship was erected near Cloud's Creek and the church was first known as the Cloud's Creek Baptist Church. Later, a new building was erected on the site now known as "Crouch's Dairy." At this time the name of the body was changed from Cloud's Creek Baptist Church to West Creek Baptist Church. In the year 1882, after several families had separated themselves from the body to con­stitute the Batesburg Baptist Church, property was procured and a building was erected on the site where the church now stands. "As the church grew in numbers, Sunday School rooms were added. As needs for space continued to press, in 1952 a complete educational plant was constructed, and the auditorium (which is the original building on this site) vas enlarged and brick veneered." .Calk Family William and James Calk We mention Calk family because William Calk was the second husband of _cy Pressnel Langford, the mother of Asa and James Langford. It was the :wuse of William Calk in which the two above mentioned Langford boys grew up after their father's death. The two Calk men in the community were William (c.l756-l832) and James Calk (c.1754-l824) who came from the low country of South Carolina to the up country during the Revolutionary War. Both were ardent patriots and members of Capt. Philemon Waters Company Mounted Rifles during the Revolution. William was a sargeant and James a private. Accounts describe both as brave men but their behavior and personality habits have been indicated as opposite.

Hi Kathy..Thanks for the correction...Don't know where I got that spelling.... Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: "SINGLEMOMWITHSON" <singlemomwithson@yahoo.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] TNOVERTO Digest, Vol 3, Issue 30 > Russ, > > That should be Gainesboro, Tennessee > > Kathy > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com > <tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > From: tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com <tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: TNOVERTO Digest, Vol 3, Issue 30 > To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 2:02 AM > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: LANGFORD (russ75smith@sbcglobal.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:10:25 -0400 > From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000a01c8e104$5f8a0a20$4001a8c0@newmicronpc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Rose...Sorry , I made a mistake..John Langford died 1860 in > Gainsborough, Jackson Co. TN (next to Overton Co.)... Marriage to Mary > Crane > in Greenville Dist. SC (near Cherokee Co. & the border of NC) The two > areas were just above each other in my notes & I grabbed the wrong one > !.....Russ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > >>I am not able to locate Gainsborough S.C. can you tell me where it is? >> I do have Polly's pension application. If you would like I can scan > off a >> copy. >> Rose C >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >> >> >>> Hi Rose...John Langford & Polly Crane were married 1812 or 1815 in >>> Gainsborough SC... Children: Thomas, Tinety, Susannah, Champlain, >>> Charles, >>> Ben, Polly Ann, Malinda, Martha Adeline, Mary & Samuel. Russ > Smith >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>> >>> >>>>I just started searching on this Langford family. Where did John > and >>>>Polly >>>> Crane come from in South Carolina? >>>> I think I have the names of some of their children,,,, not > certain. >>>> Rose C >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>> To: <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com>; > <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:40 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Leslie..... Can you verify that the Malinda m. to Fielding > Smith is >>>>> indeed Malinda Langford? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Leslie McKusker" > <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com> >>>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:55 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith. I have an > 1860 >>>>> census >>>>> where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee. I have > her >>>>> father >>>>> as >>>>> John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in > Jackson, >>>>> Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South > Carolina and >>>>> d. >>>>> 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. >>>>> >>>>> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net >>>>> <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net > <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>>> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com >>>>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM >>>>> >>>>> Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I > believe that >>>>> Malinda >>>>> dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather > Fielding >>>>> Smith...He >>>>> did >>>>> marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the > Langfords lived very >>>>> close >>>>> to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our > family >>>>> believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's > mother Mary Polly >>>>> Crane >>>>> would account for this...Glad to share any info that I > have...Russ >>>>> Smith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) > Langford >>>>>>family >>>>> >>>>>>who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. >>>>>> I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in > that area. >>>>>> This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly > Langford filed >>>>>> for >>>>>> a >>>>>> pension off her husbands service. >>>>>> They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War > of 1812. >>>>>> This >>>>>> John List his birth place in S.C... >>>>>> I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and > climbed >>>>>> every >>>>>> tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South > Carolina.. >>>>>> 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them > down. could not >>>>> have >>>>>> been this John. >>>>>> A simple clue might shed some light. >>>>>> That i do not have right now. >>>>>> I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is > researching that >>>>>> lineage.. >>>>>> Rose C >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TNOVERTO list administrator, send an email to > TNOVERTO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TNOVERTO mailing list, send an email to > TNOVERTO@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of TNOVERTO Digest, Vol 3, Issue 30 > *************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Russ, That should be Gainesboro, Tennessee Kathy --- On Wed, 7/9/08, tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com <tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com <tnoverto-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: TNOVERTO Digest, Vol 3, Issue 30 To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 2:02 AM Today's Topics: 1. Re: LANGFORD (russ75smith@sbcglobal.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:10:25 -0400 From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000a01c8e104$5f8a0a20$4001a8c0@newmicronpc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Rose...Sorry , I made a mistake..John Langford died 1860 in Gainsborough, Jackson Co. TN (next to Overton Co.)... Marriage to Mary Crane in Greenville Dist. SC (near Cherokee Co. & the border of NC) The two areas were just above each other in my notes & I grabbed the wrong one !.....Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >I am not able to locate Gainsborough S.C. can you tell me where it is? > I do have Polly's pension application. If you would like I can scan off a > copy. > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > >> Hi Rose...John Langford & Polly Crane were married 1812 or 1815 in >> Gainsborough SC... Children: Thomas, Tinety, Susannah, Champlain, >> Charles, >> Ben, Polly Ann, Malinda, Martha Adeline, Mary & Samuel. Russ Smith >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >> >> >>>I just started searching on this Langford family. Where did John and >>>Polly >>> Crane come from in South Carolina? >>> I think I have the names of some of their children,,,, not certain. >>> Rose C >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>> To: <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com>; <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>> >>> >>>> Hi Leslie..... Can you verify that the Malinda m. to Fielding Smith is >>>> indeed Malinda Langford? >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Leslie McKusker" <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com> >>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:55 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>> >>>> >>>> I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith. I have an 1860 >>>> census >>>> where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee. I have her >>>> father >>>> as >>>> John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in Jackson, >>>> Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South Carolina and >>>> d. >>>> 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net >>>> <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com >>>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM >>>> >>>> Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that >>>> Malinda >>>> dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding >>>> Smith...He >>>> did >>>> marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very >>>> close >>>> to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family >>>> believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly >>>> Crane >>>> would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ >>>> Smith >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>> >>>> >>>>>I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford >>>>>family >>>> >>>>>who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. >>>>> I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. >>>>> This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed >>>>> for >>>>> a >>>>> pension off her husbands service. >>>>> They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. >>>>> This >>>>> John List his birth place in S.C... >>>>> I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed >>>>> every >>>>> tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. >>>>> 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not >>>> have >>>>> been this John. >>>>> A simple clue might shed some light. >>>>> That i do not have right now. >>>>> I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that >>>>> lineage.. >>>>> Rose C >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the TNOVERTO list administrator, send an email to TNOVERTO-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Rose...Sorry , I made a mistake..John Langford died 1860 in Gainsborough, Jackson Co. TN (next to Overton Co.)... Marriage to Mary Crane in Greenville Dist. SC (near Cherokee Co. & the border of NC) The two areas were just above each other in my notes & I grabbed the wrong one !.....Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >I am not able to locate Gainsborough S.C. can you tell me where it is? > I do have Polly's pension application. If you would like I can scan off a > copy. > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > >> Hi Rose...John Langford & Polly Crane were married 1812 or 1815 in >> Gainsborough SC... Children: Thomas, Tinety, Susannah, Champlain, >> Charles, >> Ben, Polly Ann, Malinda, Martha Adeline, Mary & Samuel. Russ Smith >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >> >> >>>I just started searching on this Langford family. Where did John and >>>Polly >>> Crane come from in South Carolina? >>> I think I have the names of some of their children,,,, not certain. >>> Rose C >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>> To: <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com>; <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>> >>> >>>> Hi Leslie..... Can you verify that the Malinda m. to Fielding Smith is >>>> indeed Malinda Langford? >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Leslie McKusker" <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com> >>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:55 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>> >>>> >>>> I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith. I have an 1860 >>>> census >>>> where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee. I have her >>>> father >>>> as >>>> John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in Jackson, >>>> Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South Carolina and >>>> d. >>>> 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net >>>> <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com >>>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM >>>> >>>> Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that >>>> Malinda >>>> dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding >>>> Smith...He >>>> did >>>> marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very >>>> close >>>> to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family >>>> believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly >>>> Crane >>>> would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ >>>> Smith >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>>> >>>> >>>>>I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford >>>>>family >>>> >>>>>who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. >>>>> I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. >>>>> This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed >>>>> for >>>>> a >>>>> pension off her husbands service. >>>>> They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. >>>>> This >>>>> John List his birth place in S.C... >>>>> I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed >>>>> every >>>>> tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. >>>>> 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not >>>> have >>>>> been this John. >>>>> A simple clue might shed some light. >>>>> That i do not have right now. >>>>> I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that >>>>> lineage.. >>>>> Rose C >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not able to locate Gainsborough S.C. can you tell me where it is? I do have Polly's pension application. If you would like I can scan off a copy. Rose C ----- Original Message ----- From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > Hi Rose...John Langford & Polly Crane were married 1812 or 1815 in > Gainsborough SC... Children: Thomas, Tinety, Susannah, Champlain, Charles, > Ben, Polly Ann, Malinda, Martha Adeline, Mary & Samuel. Russ Smith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 AM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > >>I just started searching on this Langford family. Where did John and Polly >> Crane come from in South Carolina? >> I think I have the names of some of their children,,,, not certain. >> Rose C >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com>; <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >> >> >>> Hi Leslie..... Can you verify that the Malinda m. to Fielding Smith is >>> indeed Malinda Langford? >>> >>> >>> From: "Leslie McKusker" <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>> >>> >>> I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith. I have an 1860 >>> census >>> where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee. I have her >>> father >>> as >>> John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in Jackson, >>> Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South Carolina and >>> d. >>> 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. >>> >>> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net >>> <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM >>> >>> Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that >>> Malinda >>> dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding Smith...He >>> did >>> marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very >>> close >>> to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family >>> believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly >>> Crane >>> would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ >>> Smith >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >>> >>> >>>>I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford >>>>family >>> >>>>who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. >>>> I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. >>>> This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed for >>>> a >>>> pension off her husbands service. >>>> They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. This >>>> John List his birth place in S.C... >>>> I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed >>>> every >>>> tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. >>>> 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not >>> have >>>> been this John. >>>> A simple clue might shed some light. >>>> That i do not have right now. >>>> I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that >>>> lineage.. >>>> Rose C >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rose...John Langford & Polly Crane were married 1812 or 1815 in Gainsborough SC... Children: Thomas, Tinety, Susannah, Champlain, Charles, Ben, Polly Ann, Malinda, Martha Adeline, Mary & Samuel. Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >I just started searching on this Langford family. Where did John and Polly > Crane come from in South Carolina? > I think I have the names of some of their children,,,, not certain. > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > To: <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com>; <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:40 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > >> Hi Leslie..... Can you verify that the Malinda m. to Fielding Smith is >> indeed Malinda Langford? >> >> >> From: "Leslie McKusker" <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >> >> >> I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith. I have an 1860 >> census >> where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee. I have her father >> as >> John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in Jackson, >> Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South Carolina and >> d. >> 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. >> >> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net >> <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >> >> From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >> To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM >> >> Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that >> Malinda >> dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding Smith...He >> did >> marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very >> close >> to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family >> believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly >> Crane >> would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ Smith >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >> >> >>>I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford >>>family >> >>>who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. >>> I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. >>> This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed for >>> a >>> pension off her husbands service. >>> They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. This >>> John List his birth place in S.C... >>> I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed every >>> tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. >>> 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not >> have >>> been this John. >>> A simple clue might shed some light. >>> That i do not have right now. >>> I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that >>> lineage.. >>> Rose C >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just started searching on this Langford family. Where did John and Polly Crane come from in South Carolina? I think I have the names of some of their children,,,, not certain. Rose C ----- Original Message ----- From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> To: <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com>; <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > Hi Leslie..... Can you verify that the Malinda m. to Fielding Smith is > indeed Malinda Langford? > > > From: "Leslie McKusker" <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > > I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith. I have an 1860 census > where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee. I have her father > as > John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in Jackson, > Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South Carolina and d. > 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. > > --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM > > Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that Malinda > dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding Smith...He > did > marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very > close > to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family > believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly > Crane > would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ Smith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD > > >>I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford >>family > >>who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. >> I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. >> This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed for a >> pension off her husbands service. >> They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. This >> John List his birth place in S.C... >> I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed every >> tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. >> 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not > have >> been this John. >> A simple clue might shed some light. >> That i do not have right now. >> I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that >> lineage.. >> Rose C >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Leslie..... Can you verify that the Malinda m. to Fielding Smith is indeed Malinda Langford? From: "Leslie McKusker" <lesliemckusker@yahoo.com> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD I show a Malinda Langford married to Fielding Smith. I have an 1860 census where they are living in Grand River, Henry, Tennessee. I have her father as John Langford born 1788 in South Carolina d. July 6, 1860 in Jackson, Tennessee. Her mother as Mary Polly Crane b. 1795 in South Carolina and d. 1880 in Jackson, Tennessee. --- On Thu, 6/19/08, russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: russ75smith@sbcglobal.net <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD To: tnoverto@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:22 AM Good Morning.... I'm also searching for Langfords...I believe that Malinda dau of Jack & Polly was married to my GG Grandfather Fielding Smith...He did marry a Malinda of the same age & b. TN ...& the Langfords lived very close to the Smiths in Overton Co..But I have no verification... Our family believes to have a Cherokee connection & Malinda's mother Mary Polly Crane would account for this...Glad to share any info that I have...Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] LANGFORD >I am trying to compile a brief lineage on the John (Jack) Langford family >who lived in Overton County from about 1830 up ward. > I feel very sure their still descendents of that family in that area. > This John served in the War of 1812- his widow Polly Langford filed for a > pension off her husbands service. > They were married perhaps before or shortly after the War of 1812. This > John List his birth place in S.C... > I have hunted for him in S.C. almost under every rock and climbed every > tree..and NO John, in the Time period found in South Carolina.. > 1785-1820.. Found a few john's but when i ran them down. could not have > been this John. > A simple clue might shed some light. > That i do not have right now. > I would love to correspond with anyone who has or is researching that > lineage.. > Rose C > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I AM LOOKING FOR ANY INFORMATION ON MY MOTHER, LANNIE HARDEN HOWARD'S FAMILY. HER FATHER WAS HARRISON AYERS HARDEN AND HER MOTHER WAS LILLIE STANFORD HARDEN. THANKS!

I am trying to find out any information on my father James Howard (son of Vula Matthews and Harvey Howard) family. I would appreciate anything that anyone has

Solders and sailors data base on line will give you a whole bunch of Smiths everywhere. Rose C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > Rex, maybe my William divorced Rebekah. In the 1840 census Rebekah had > two > grown sons living with her. > she d. in 1844 the 1850 census shows Coleman Smith living with > Catherine/Katherine Reed and husband Wiley. I found a tombstone with the > Name Coleman Smith a Tennessee confederate soldier. > M A > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rex Phillips" <r.phillips0288@sbcglobal.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> The 1830 Census for Overton Co. (see: >> http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/tn/overton/1830/pgs-193-to-214.txt ) >> has William smith fmily in Household #20 with him at age 40-50 with wife >> age >> 20-30. The children were listed as 3 males age less than 5 , one female >> less than 5 and 1 female age over 5 - less than 10. >> >> Rex Phillips >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >> >> >>> My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his >>> wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of >>> age. >>> Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. >>> His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to >>> southwestern MO. >>> >>> Rose C >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 >> 5:26 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

! will have to go back and check on the names of their children. there were 11-12 of them who were all named when the estate was settled. The mom lived out her life with one of their children.. Can you tell it has been a while since I worked on this line lineage? Josiah B. and Mahulda were married in the home of her father. I think they had actually getting ready for the trip to MO when her father died, hence the Monroe Co Census. Some of her Smith family also moved to MO. Dade County ( Springfield area) and went back and forth between TN and MO. I also know some one in that Smith family was a Methodist preacher circuit rider ministry. in Miss. ( I could be wrong that it was Methodist, but that is how I recall it right now.) If any one wants that data let me know and I will dig it out. and give tot you with the sources: Rose C I just never could figure out where William Smith parents were. The Holman & Pinchbeck families came from Rowan County NO.C. ca 1810 to middle TN. several brothers who had married sisters (Pinchbeck) I even searched there but could not see anything that connected this Wm to them. Any ideas? In the earlier census for Overton/ Jackson county there are several Smith families. I have no idea if there is a family connection or not. Rose C ----- Original Message ----- From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > Hi....I found two William Smiths in the 1840 Overton census...one 30-40 > yrs > old (Wm. R.) & one 40-50..also Josiah & Mahulda in the 1850 census in > Monroe KY... & 1860 census in Dade Co. MO .... Russ Smith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:07 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his >> wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of age. >> Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. >> His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to >> southwestern MO. >> >> Rose C >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >> >> >>>I am searching for a William Smith from east Tn. I have no idea when he >>> died. His daughter lived in Overton,Purnam co. do you have any other >>> info >>> on >>> your Wm. Smith >>> Mary Ann >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>> >>> >>>>I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary >>>>POLLY >>>> (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. >>>> I have a William Smith died ca 1846, >>>> Overton County TN. >>>> Are we searching in the same Smith family? >>>> >>>> Rose c >>>> >>>> Rose C >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM >>>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>>> >>>> >>>>> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >>>>> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 >>>>> Overton >>>>> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: >>>> 7/3/2008 >>>> 8:32 AM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rex, maybe my William divorced Rebekah. In the 1840 census Rebekah had two grown sons living with her. she d. in 1844 the 1850 census shows Coleman Smith living with Catherine/Katherine Reed and husband Wiley. I found a tombstone with the Name Coleman Smith a Tennessee confederate soldier. M A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Phillips" <r.phillips0288@sbcglobal.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > The 1830 Census for Overton Co. (see: > http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/tn/overton/1830/pgs-193-to-214.txt ) > has William smith fmily in Household #20 with him at age 40-50 with wife > age > 20-30. The children were listed as 3 males age less than 5 , one female > less than 5 and 1 female age over 5 - less than 10. > > Rex Phillips > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his >> wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of age. >> Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. >> His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to >> southwestern MO. >> >> Rose C >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 > 5:26 AM > >

Hi....I found two William Smiths in the 1840 Overton census...one 30-40 yrs old (Wm. R.) & one 40-50..also Josiah & Mahulda in the 1850 census in Monroe KY... & 1860 census in Dade Co. MO .... Russ Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his > wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of age. > Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. > His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to > southwestern MO. > > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >>I am searching for a William Smith from east Tn. I have no idea when he >> died. His daughter lived in Overton,Purnam co. do you have any other info >> on >> your Wm. Smith >> Mary Ann >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >> >> >>>I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary >>>POLLY >>> (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. >>> I have a William Smith died ca 1846, >>> Overton County TN. >>> Are we searching in the same Smith family? >>> >>> Rose c >>> >>> Rose C >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM >>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>> >>> >>>> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >>>> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 >>>> Overton >>>> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 >>> 8:32 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 1830 Census for Overton Co. (see: http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/tn/overton/1830/pgs-193-to-214.txt ) has William smith fmily in Household #20 with him at age 40-50 with wife age 20-30. The children were listed as 3 males age less than 5 , one female less than 5 and 1 female age over 5 - less than 10. Rex Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his > wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of age. > Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. > His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to > southwestern MO. > > Rose C >

Rose, My William was married to Rebekah Crosby from Greene Co.,TN. I have no idea where he was from. Their daughter was Katherine Mariah Smith who married Wiley James Reed. Katherine die in 1904 in Putnam co. Wiley James Reed d. one month after returning to regroup the inf. in civil was 2/19/1862. So I guess we are looking for two William's but they may be related (kinfolk as my grandmother would say) Mary Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >I will have to look as to the year this Williams Smiths wife died, but >from > memory I am going to say she lived another 20-30 years. > She was the daughter of William Holman and Sarah Pinchbeck, > > ( was born in TN. after 1810.) > > Rose c > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> Rose, My William's wife d in 1844. may be their son. I will get looking >> mary ann >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >> >> >>> My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his >>> wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of >>> age. >>> Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. >>> His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to >>> southwestern MO. >>> >>> Rose C >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>> >>> >>>>I am searching for a William Smith from east Tn. I have no idea when he >>>> died. His daughter lived in Overton,Purnam co. do you have any other >>>> info >>>> on >>>> your Wm. Smith >>>> Mary Ann >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>>> >>>> >>>>>I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary >>>>>POLLY >>>>> (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. >>>>> I have a William Smith died ca 1846, >>>>> Overton County TN. >>>>> Are we searching in the same Smith family? >>>>> >>>>> Rose c >>>>> >>>>> Rose C >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM >>>>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >>>>>> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 >>>>>> Overton >>>>>> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG. >>>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: >>>>> 7/3/2008 >>>>> 8:32 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 >>> 10:15 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 > 5:26 AM > >

I will have to look as to the year this Williams Smiths wife died, but from memory I am going to say she lived another 20-30 years. She was the daughter of William Holman and Sarah Pinchbeck, ( was born in TN. after 1810.) Rose c ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > Rose, My William's wife d in 1844. may be their son. I will get looking > mary ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >> My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his >> wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of age. >> Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. >> His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to >> southwestern MO. >> >> Rose C >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >> >> >>>I am searching for a William Smith from east Tn. I have no idea when he >>> died. His daughter lived in Overton,Purnam co. do you have any other >>> info >>> on >>> your Wm. Smith >>> Mary Ann >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>> >>> >>>>I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary >>>>POLLY >>>> (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. >>>> I have a William Smith died ca 1846, >>>> Overton County TN. >>>> Are we searching in the same Smith family? >>>> >>>> Rose c >>>> >>>> Rose C >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM >>>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>>> >>>> >>>>> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >>>>> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 >>>>> Overton >>>>> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: >>>> 7/3/2008 >>>> 8:32 AM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 >> 10:15 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rose, My William's wife d in 1844. may be their son. I will get looking mary ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > My William Smith died about 1847 in Overton County TN. By the age of his > wife I would guess him at that time to be between 40 and 50 years of age. > Who his sibling were or parents are, is a fact totally unknown to me. > His daughter Mahulda married Josiah B. Langford and by 1852 had move to > southwestern MO. > > Rose C > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary" <marymack1@charter.net> > To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford > > >>I am searching for a William Smith from east Tn. I have no idea when he >> died. His daughter lived in Overton,Purnam co. do you have any other info >> on >> your Wm. Smith >> Mary Ann >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D&R" <dcran41266@comcast.net> >> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >> >> >>>I believe Malinda Langford was the daughter of John ( jack) and Mary >>>POLLY >>> (Crane) Langford of Overton County TN. >>> I have a William Smith died ca 1846, >>> Overton County TN. >>> Are we searching in the same Smith family? >>> >>> Rose c >>> >>> Rose C >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <russ75smith@sbcglobal.net> >>> To: <tnoverto@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:17 PM >>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Elijah Smith. Fielding Smith, Malinda Langford >>> >>> >>>> Looking for Elijah Smith b. 1800 TN. Son: Fielding Smith b. 1831... >>>> Fielding married Malinda Langford ? b. 1828-9 all are in 1850 >>>> Overton >>>> census dists. 2&3 Russ Smith >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 >>> 8:32 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNOVERTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 > 10:15 AM > >