Gary, Thanks for that information. I have not found any clues to military service yet. I have seen no record of pension application from either William or his wife. There was a William M. CARR that enlisted from White county in 1st Battalion, Tennessee Infantry (Colms') and another that enlisted from Knoxville in the 9th Regiment, Tennessee Cavalry. I think that it is unlikely that Knoxville would be a possibility but White Co. while a short distance might be a stretch also. Thanks again Billy D. Carr Researching CARR, COPELAND, LEDBETTER, BLEDSOE, BILBREY, MAXWELL, SELLS and TIPTON in Tennessee and Virginia CARR, HATFIELD, WALTERS, BLANKENSHIP, FIELDS, PRESTON, WARD, and ESTEP of Virginia, West Virginia and North Carolina

Thomas Cooper born c1808 N.C. Died 1880 Married in Overton Co. 1822 Catherine Rogers born 1812 Overton Co. Their son, Nathaniel C. Cooper born 4 March 1841, White Co. Tn. married Martha C. Rector born 9 Dec 1843 Bledsoe Co. Tn. died 1 July 1916. Mathaniel C. Cooper left his family and disappeared with a lady named Mary. Any info apprecated. Thanks. [email protected]

Billy, I am going to make some pure guesses based upon what killed many Civil War vets a few years after the war. Take you pick. You might try to see about a pension record on him. His wife may have filed. Here are my guesses. (1) a festering wound with part of the uniform or wood inside the body (2) chronic dyssentery with a mixture of typhoid and malaria (3) Klan violence (4) rheumatism caused by exposure during the war Gary D. Norris > Also, I am looking for anything about his grandfather William M. "Billy" > CARR. William was the son of Thomas and Rebecca CARR and was married to > Eliza Jane COPELAND Carr. William was born in 1828 and died in 1868. He > was so young and I wondered if someone had knowledge of how he died. I have > not found any Civil War record of his service but wonder if his early death > was related to injuries or illness from possible service in the war. Eliza > Jane and William are buried in the same cemetery as James. > > Thanks > Billy D. Carr > >

My grandfather was James Copeland CARR. He was the son of Robert CARR and Sibbie LEDBETTER and was born 5-18-1894 in Overton Co., TN. He married Noveline Bledsoe around 1930. They were divorced sometime in the 40's and he died 6-22-1954 a little more than a year before I was born. I know that for a time they lived in Detroit, MI but I don't know much more about him. He was buried in a Copeland cemetery outside of Livingston Here is a link to a picture of him: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/Billy-D-Carr/PHOTO/0001phot o.html Here is a link to pictures of the cemetery he is buried in: http://home.neo.rr.com/billyc/james-copeland-carr.htm http://home.neo.rr.com/billyc/Copeland.html I am looking for any kind of information about my grandfather. Does anyone have any knowledge of him? Also, I am looking for anything about his grandfather William M. "Billy" CARR. William was the son of Thomas and Rebecca CARR and was married to Eliza Jane COPELAND Carr. William was born in 1828 and died in 1868. He was so young and I wondered if someone had knowledge of how he died. I have not found any Civil War record of his service but wonder if his early death was related to injuries or illness from possible service in the war. Eliza Jane and William are buried in the same cemetery as James. Thanks Billy D. Carr Researching CARR, COPELAND, LEDBETTER, BLEDSOE, BILBREY, MAXWELL, SELLS and TIPTON in Tennessee and Virginia CARR, HATFIELD, WALTERS, BLANKENSHIP, FIELDS, PRESTON, WARD, and ESTEP of Virginia, West Virginia and North Carolina

Gary, The Maynors of Jackson County just might be part of our group. Several branches left Overton for other counties and states. We are now in the process of chasing them down. We would be glad to work with you in identifying Civil War soldiers. We have identified some soldiers but have not verified the information. This is something we are working on. Thanks Guille

You can check on this site with a name. http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm Gale Prince Nash ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbara smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: [TNOVERTO] Civil War > Hi, > Is there anyplace online that shows the inlistment of those that were in the Civil war? Or is there a place I can send for these papers? What are the dates of the civil war? My gg-grandfather married 7 times and there is nothing on his first wife that he was married to at the time he was in the war. > Thanks, > Barbara > [email protected] > > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Rod & Guille, I was wondering if the Maynor families of the Jackson County areas were also kin? Back to you in a few minutes and see if you can help identify Civil War soldiers of your line. Gary D. Norris > From: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:17:30 -0800 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNOVERTO] Mainords/Maynards/Mainards > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:17:40 -0700 > > We have matched, verifying 99% of the Mainord/Mainard/Maynard/Maynord/Mainyard > family in Overton County. We have been able to place everyone in the correct > family and have been able to verified most with census, cemetery records, > wills and deeds. (We are still working on wills and deeds). There are a > couple that we can't place due to nicknames used. > > We used the book "Overton County TN Roll Call" by Gary Norris (hope I got the > title right) and have placed 98% of the Mainords in the book with the correct > family. > > If anyone out there is doing Mainords, I would appreciate help in finding > "Void's" (Mainord) proper name. He shows up in Gary's book but I can't place > him with any family. > > Thanks > > Rod & Guille > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > WATCH YOUR SUBJECT LINES > Many subscriber Delete a > message based on subject > lines. GIVE YOURS ONE! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

We have matched, verifying 99% of the Mainord/Mainard/Maynard/Maynord/Mainyard family in Overton County. We have been able to place everyone in the correct family and have been able to verified most with census, cemetery records, wills and deeds. (We are still working on wills and deeds). There are a couple that we can't place due to nicknames used. We used the book "Overton County TN Roll Call" by Gary Norris (hope I got the title right) and have placed 98% of the Mainords in the book with the correct family. If anyone out there is doing Mainords, I would appreciate help in finding "Void's" (Mainord) proper name. He shows up in Gary's book but I can't place him with any family. Thanks Rod & Guille

I know the men were notorious highway men who operated on the Natchez Trace between Nashville and Natchez, Mississippi. That was an early trade route for goods. The Big and Little Harp robbed the travelers and usually killed them. There were few eye-witnesses to ever identify them. The law finally caught up to them and killed them in most gruesome means. The heads were severed and put upon a pike for everyone to see. Gary D. Norris -----Original Message----- From: Deanna and Glen [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams Hi Gary, Some years ago I had read a historical fiction book which mentioned them. Then a few weeks ago I went to a book on line that had a lot of a woman's ancestors. One of the lines was Earp/Harp and near the end of that section was information gathered about those men. Apparently they operated during the Rev. War and around Nashville TN and other places. As far as I could tell with dates, etc. they were not connected to the ones that settled in Overton Co. I am interested in what you know about these men. Deanna > -----Original Message----- > From: Norris, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > > > Deanna, > > Do you know the tales about the Big Harp and Little Harp? > > Gary D. Norris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deanna and Glen [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > > Hi, > Thank you for your reply. Yes, this may be the same Samson Williams. > I have > an ancestor, Rebecca Earp (possibly Harp)who was born 1798 in NC and > married > Elijah Pile in Overton Co. around 1814. I would like to find her > parents' > names. I see that there were several Harp families living in > Overton Co. > during this time and think that she may be the daughter of one of > them. > There may be a connection to Samson Williams as one of the Harps was > named > Samson Harp. William Harp Sr. acquired land from Samson Williams - > I > believe before 1811. Do you know if any wills exist from this early > time or > were they destroyed in the courthouse fire of 1865? I would like to > get a > will of both William Harp, Sr. and Samson Williams. > It is interesting that you have the deed record from 1817. I > recently > received the Fentress Co. Historical Society Newsletter and on page > 58 there > is an article on Moses Fisk. Part reads ".......The act of the > General > Assembly incorporating Fisk Female Academy recited, "that Moses Fisk > and > Sampson Williams are willing to contribute one thousand acres of > land each > toward the endowment of a female academy...." > I have information on the Rich family as I am almost positive that I > am > connected to them also. Is there some info. you need? I can check > my file. > I also have some info. on Dentons. > Deanna > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carl Cason [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:23 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TNOVERTO] Williams > > > > > > >I am interested in information on Samson Williams an early > settler in > > >Overton Co. He was involved in land transactions before 1811 > > but I do not > > >believe he was on the 1820 Overton Co. census. I understand > > that he owned > > >over 1000 acres in the area. Could anyone help with information > on this > > >man. Who were his children? Thanks. > > >Deanna > > > > Deanna, I don't have the 1820 Overton Co. census, but there is a > > Sampson Williams in the 1820 >Jackson< Co. census. You don't say > how > > old he would have been in 1820, but here are the ages of the > people in > > this household at that time: > > > > 1 male 0-10 > > 1 male 10-15 > > 1 male 16-25 > > 2 males 45-up > > > > 4 females 0-10 > > 1 female 10-15 > > 1 female 16-25 > > 1 female 26-45 > > > > He could have been in that part of Jackson co. that later became > part > > of Overton Co., or moved to Overton Co. > > > > From Book E pg 112 of Overton Co. deeds (you may already have > this): > > > > Spencer Grogin to Jesse Rich 13 Oct 1817 both of Overton Co. > $100 > > 130 acres part of large tract bought by SAMPSON WILLIAMS from > > Moses Friske, agent for the New York Company, lying on the > > dividing ridge between Kettle Creek and Obed's River, bounded > by > > land of James armstrong, James Kilman. Wit by William > Edwards, > > Henry Kilman, and Samuel Scott. Registered 5 Jan 1821. > > > > Carl Cason, Bothell, Washington > > email: [email protected] > > Jackson/Clay/Overton Co., Tenn., surnames in my direct lines: > CASON, > > DENTON, GRAY, HALL, HOGG, MYERS, PEAK/PEEK/E, RICH, SHORT, > STEPHENS, > > STRONG, TRICE, VAN HOOSER, and WELCH. > > > > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES > TOT: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Anna, I, along with other, were tracing our Roam, Rome, Rhum ancestors. Many of them left Overton County for Pulaski County, Missouri around 1870. Isaac, Jobe, and Henry were just a couple of the family. Gary D. Norris -----Original Message----- From: Anna L Bertram [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TNOVERTO] ROANE, Rone, etc. Was this the list where someone was trying to locate ancestors named ROANE, Rone, etc.? I found this today in the Washington Co., TN list archives. Clerks and masters of the superior court of equity-David Allison, 1788-91; Andrew Russell, 1791-92; Archibald Roane, 1792-93; Landon Carter, 1793-94; John Carter, l794-1806; James V. Anderson, 1806-10. Anna BERTRAM [email protected] ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES TOT: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, Is there anyplace online that shows the inlistment of those that were in the Civil war? Or is there a place I can send for these papers? What are the dates of the civil war? My gg-grandfather married 7 times and there is nothing on his first wife that he was married to at the time he was in the war. Thanks, Barbara [email protected]

Thank you, Gary. Deanna > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Harp > > > Mill Creek runs through Andrews Cove and into Standing Stone State Park. > The stream actually starts just west of Allons. It ends up going into the > Cumberland River in Clay County. Rickman is too far south from the Mill > Creek site. > > Gary D. Norris > > > From: "Deanna and Glen" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:29:20 -0700 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Harp > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:16:34 -0700 > > > > Hi Gary, > > Thanks for the information. Is Rickman around the area of Mill > Creek? The > > reason I ask is that Harp deeds list Mill Creek. In looking > over the files > > on Harps I noticed that the ones that could be of the Rev. War era and > > living in Overton were living and had children long after the > one Harp was > > killed for his evil deeds. So I don't think they were the same family. > > However, I will keep in mind what the lady said. > > Deanna > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:45 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Harp > >> > >> > >> I do believe the Harps were brothers who operated on the Natchez Trace > >> between Nashville and Natchez. They were robbers and > murderers. Finally > >> they were killed by a posse. I was told by an old lady that the > >> Harps were > >> distantly connected to the Harps from around Rickman. I kept my > >> mouth shut > >> on that, but not that the lady has died I might mention it to you > >> only as a > >> hint for your research. > >> > >> Gary D. Norris > >> > >>> From: "Deanna and Glen" <[email protected]> > >>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:27:33 -0700 > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > >>> Resent-From: [email protected] > >>> Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:17:14 -0700 > >>> > >>> Hi Gary, > >>> Some years ago I had read a historical fiction book which > >> mentioned them. > >>> Then a few weeks ago I went to a book on line that had a lot of > >> a woman's > >>> ancestors. One of the lines was Earp/Harp and near the end of > >> that section > >>> was information gathered about those men. Apparently they > >> operated during > >>> the Rev. War and around Nashville TN and other places. As far > >> as I could > >>> tell with dates, etc. they were not connected to the ones that > >> settled in > >>> Overton Co. > >>> I am interested in what you know about these men. > >>> Deanna > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Norris, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:31 AM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Deanna, > >>>> > >>>> Do you know the tales about the Big Harp and Little Harp? > >>>> > >>>> Gary D. Norris > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Deanna and Glen [SMTP:[email protected]] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:35 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> Thank you for your reply. Yes, this may be the same Samson Williams. > >>>> I have > >>>> an ancestor, Rebecca Earp (possibly Harp)who was born 1798 in NC and > >>>> married > >>>> Elijah Pile in Overton Co. around 1814. I would like to find her > >>>> parents' > >>>> names. I see that there were several Harp families living in > >>>> Overton Co. > >>>> during this time and think that she may be the daughter of one of > >>>> them. > >>>> There may be a connection to Samson Williams as one of the Harps was > >>>> named > >>>> Samson Harp. William Harp Sr. acquired land from Samson Williams - > >>>> I > >>>> believe before 1811. Do you know if any wills exist from this early > >>>> time or > >>>> were they destroyed in the courthouse fire of 1865? I would like to > >>>> get a > >>>> will of both William Harp, Sr. and Samson Williams. > >>>> It is interesting that you have the deed record from 1817. I > >>>> recently > >>>> received the Fentress Co. Historical Society Newsletter and on page > >>>> 58 there > >>>> is an article on Moses Fisk. Part reads ".......The act of the > >>>> General > >>>> Assembly incorporating Fisk Female Academy recited, "that Moses Fisk > >>>> and > >>>> Sampson Williams are willing to contribute one thousand acres of > >>>> land each > >>>> toward the endowment of a female academy...." > >>>> I have information on the Rich family as I am almost positive that I > >>>> am > >>>> connected to them also. Is there some info. you need? I can check > >>>> my file. > >>>> I also have some info. on Dentons. > >>>> Deanna > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Carl Cason [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:23 PM > >>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Williams > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I am interested in information on Samson Williams an early > >>>> settler in > >>>>>> Overton Co. He was involved in land transactions before 1811 > >>>>> but I do not > >>>>>> believe he was on the 1820 Overton Co. census. I understand > >>>>> that he owned > >>>>>> over 1000 acres in the area. Could anyone help with information > >>>> on this > >>>>>> man. Who were his children? Thanks. > >>>>>> Deanna > >>>>> > >>>>> Deanna, I don't have the 1820 Overton Co. census, but there is a > >>>>> Sampson Williams in the 1820 >Jackson< Co. census. You don't say > >>>> how > >>>>> old he would have been in 1820, but here are the ages of the > >>>> people in > >>>>> this household at that time: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1 male 0-10 > >>>>> 1 male 10-15 > >>>>> 1 male 16-25 > >>>>> 2 males 45-up > >>>>> > >>>>> 4 females 0-10 > >>>>> 1 female 10-15 > >>>>> 1 female 16-25 > >>>>> 1 female 26-45 > >>>>> > >>>>> He could have been in that part of Jackson co. that later became > >>>> part > >>>>> of Overton Co., or moved to Overton Co. > >>>>> > >>>>> From Book E pg 112 of Overton Co. deeds (you may already have > >>>> this): > >>>>> > >>>>> Spencer Grogin to Jesse Rich 13 Oct 1817 both of Overton Co. > >>>> $100 > >>>>> 130 acres part of large tract bought by SAMPSON WILLIAMS from > >>>>> Moses Friske, agent for the New York Company, lying on the > >>>>> dividing ridge between Kettle Creek and Obed's River, bounded > >>>> by > >>>>> land of James armstrong, James Kilman. Wit by William > >>>> Edwards, > >>>>> Henry Kilman, and Samuel Scott. Registered 5 Jan 1821. > >>>>> > >>>>> Carl Cason, Bothell, Washington > >>>>> email: [email protected] > >>>>> Jackson/Clay/Overton Co., Tenn., surnames in my direct lines: > >>>> CASON, > >>>>> DENTON, GRAY, HALL, HOGG, MYERS, PEAK/PEEK/E, RICH, SHORT, > >>>> STEPHENS, > >>>>> STRONG, TRICE, VAN HOOSER, and WELCH. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >>>>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> ============================== > >>>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >>>>> records, go to: > >>>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >>>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>>>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > >>>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >>>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> ============================== > >>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >>>> records, go to: > >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >>>> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES > >>>> TOT: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> ============================== > >>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >>>> records, go to: > >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > >>>> > >>> --- > >>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >> genealogy records, go > >>> to: > >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >> WATCH YOUR SUBJECT LINES > >> Many subscriber Delete a > >> message based on subject > >> lines. 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Gary, Thanks so much for your response to my inquiry. I will try to investigate your lead further; perhaps this is some of my Hampton family. Glenna Prather

Mill Creek runs through Andrews Cove and into Standing Stone State Park. The stream actually starts just west of Allons. It ends up going into the Cumberland River in Clay County. Rickman is too far south from the Mill Creek site. Gary D. Norris > From: "Deanna and Glen" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:29:20 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Harp > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:16:34 -0700 > > Hi Gary, > Thanks for the information. Is Rickman around the area of Mill Creek? The > reason I ask is that Harp deeds list Mill Creek. In looking over the files > on Harps I noticed that the ones that could be of the Rev. War era and > living in Overton were living and had children long after the one Harp was > killed for his evil deeds. So I don't think they were the same family. > However, I will keep in mind what the lady said. > Deanna > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:45 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Harp >> >> >> I do believe the Harps were brothers who operated on the Natchez Trace >> between Nashville and Natchez. They were robbers and murderers. Finally >> they were killed by a posse. I was told by an old lady that the >> Harps were >> distantly connected to the Harps from around Rickman. I kept my >> mouth shut >> on that, but not that the lady has died I might mention it to you >> only as a >> hint for your research. >> >> Gary D. Norris >> >>> From: "Deanna and Glen" <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:27:33 -0700 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams >>> Resent-From: [email protected] >>> Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:17:14 -0700 >>> >>> Hi Gary, >>> Some years ago I had read a historical fiction book which >> mentioned them. >>> Then a few weeks ago I went to a book on line that had a lot of >> a woman's >>> ancestors. One of the lines was Earp/Harp and near the end of >> that section >>> was information gathered about those men. Apparently they >> operated during >>> the Rev. War and around Nashville TN and other places. As far >> as I could >>> tell with dates, etc. they were not connected to the ones that >> settled in >>> Overton Co. >>> I am interested in what you know about these men. >>> Deanna >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Norris, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:31 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams >>>> >>>> >>>> Deanna, >>>> >>>> Do you know the tales about the Big Harp and Little Harp? >>>> >>>> Gary D. Norris >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Deanna and Glen [SMTP:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:35 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Thank you for your reply. Yes, this may be the same Samson Williams. >>>> I have >>>> an ancestor, Rebecca Earp (possibly Harp)who was born 1798 in NC and >>>> married >>>> Elijah Pile in Overton Co. around 1814. I would like to find her >>>> parents' >>>> names. I see that there were several Harp families living in >>>> Overton Co. >>>> during this time and think that she may be the daughter of one of >>>> them. >>>> There may be a connection to Samson Williams as one of the Harps was >>>> named >>>> Samson Harp. William Harp Sr. acquired land from Samson Williams - >>>> I >>>> believe before 1811. Do you know if any wills exist from this early >>>> time or >>>> were they destroyed in the courthouse fire of 1865? I would like to >>>> get a >>>> will of both William Harp, Sr. and Samson Williams. >>>> It is interesting that you have the deed record from 1817. I >>>> recently >>>> received the Fentress Co. Historical Society Newsletter and on page >>>> 58 there >>>> is an article on Moses Fisk. Part reads ".......The act of the >>>> General >>>> Assembly incorporating Fisk Female Academy recited, "that Moses Fisk >>>> and >>>> Sampson Williams are willing to contribute one thousand acres of >>>> land each >>>> toward the endowment of a female academy...." >>>> I have information on the Rich family as I am almost positive that I >>>> am >>>> connected to them also. Is there some info. you need? I can check >>>> my file. >>>> I also have some info. on Dentons. >>>> Deanna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Carl Cason [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:23 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Williams >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I am interested in information on Samson Williams an early >>>> settler in >>>>>> Overton Co. He was involved in land transactions before 1811 >>>>> but I do not >>>>>> believe he was on the 1820 Overton Co. census. I understand >>>>> that he owned >>>>>> over 1000 acres in the area. Could anyone help with information >>>> on this >>>>>> man. Who were his children? Thanks. >>>>>> Deanna >>>>> >>>>> Deanna, I don't have the 1820 Overton Co. census, but there is a >>>>> Sampson Williams in the 1820 >Jackson< Co. census. You don't say >>>> how >>>>> old he would have been in 1820, but here are the ages of the >>>> people in >>>>> this household at that time: >>>>> >>>>> 1 male 0-10 >>>>> 1 male 10-15 >>>>> 1 male 16-25 >>>>> 2 males 45-up >>>>> >>>>> 4 females 0-10 >>>>> 1 female 10-15 >>>>> 1 female 16-25 >>>>> 1 female 26-45 >>>>> >>>>> He could have been in that part of Jackson co. that later became >>>> part >>>>> of Overton Co., or moved to Overton Co. >>>>> >>>>> From Book E pg 112 of Overton Co. deeds (you may already have >>>> this): >>>>> >>>>> Spencer Grogin to Jesse Rich 13 Oct 1817 both of Overton Co. >>>> $100 >>>>> 130 acres part of large tract bought by SAMPSON WILLIAMS from >>>>> Moses Friske, agent for the New York Company, lying on the >>>>> dividing ridge between Kettle Creek and Obed's River, bounded >>>> by >>>>> land of James armstrong, James Kilman. Wit by William >>>> Edwards, >>>>> Henry Kilman, and Samuel Scott. Registered 5 Jan 1821. >>>>> >>>>> Carl Cason, Bothell, Washington >>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>> Jackson/Clay/Overton Co., Tenn., surnames in my direct lines: >>>> CASON, >>>>> DENTON, GRAY, HALL, HOGG, MYERS, PEAK/PEEK/E, RICH, SHORT, >>>> STEPHENS, >>>>> STRONG, TRICE, VAN HOOSER, and WELCH. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>>>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>>>> records, go to: >>>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>>>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 >>>>> >>>> --- >>>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>>> records, go to: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>>> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >>>> TOT: [email protected] >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>>> records, go to: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 >>>> >>> --- >>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 >>> >>> >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ============================== >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >> genealogy records, go >>> to: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> WATCH YOUR SUBJECT LINES >> Many subscriber Delete a >> message based on subject >> lines. 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You might find something at these websites. <A HREF="http://www.madammurder.net/madam/harps.html">Harps</A> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/brenfoster/Witch.html">Big Harp-Little Harp</A>

Gary and all, Jack Ferguson's book, EARLY TIMES IN CLINTON COUNTY (KY), Vol. I, has an interesting story about the HARP brothers, "Big Harp" and "Little Harp. My copy is not indexed so I can't give a page number. They were terrorizing the Green County area of early TN at the time. I believe the land that became Overton may have been in Green County at the time. He said their father had been a Tory during the Revolutionary War and that after the British failed the HARP family probably was subject to hard times and a lot of persecution that warped the HARP boys. Anna BERTRAM [email protected]

Thanks for the tip about the story in "Early Times...". I checked but I have Vol.II, not Vol.I. Deann > -----Original Message----- > From: Anna L Bertram [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNOVERTO] Harp > > > Gary and all, > > Jack Ferguson's book, EARLY TIMES IN CLINTON COUNTY (KY), Vol. I, > has an interesting story about the HARP brothers, "Big Harp" and > "Little Harp. My copy is not indexed so I can't give a page > number. They were terrorizing the Green County area of early TN > at the time. I believe the land that became Overton may have been > in Green County at the time. He said their father had been a Tory > during the Revolutionary War and that after the British failed > the HARP family probably was subject to hard times and a lot of > persecution that warped the HARP boys. > > Anna BERTRAM > > [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

Hi Gary, Thanks for the information. Is Rickman around the area of Mill Creek? The reason I ask is that Harp deeds list Mill Creek. In looking over the files on Harps I noticed that the ones that could be of the Rev. War era and living in Overton were living and had children long after the one Harp was killed for his evil deeds. So I don't think they were the same family. However, I will keep in mind what the lady said. Deanna > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Harp > > > I do believe the Harps were brothers who operated on the Natchez Trace > between Nashville and Natchez. They were robbers and murderers. Finally > they were killed by a posse. I was told by an old lady that the > Harps were > distantly connected to the Harps from around Rickman. I kept my > mouth shut > on that, but not that the lady has died I might mention it to you > only as a > hint for your research. > > Gary D. Norris > > > From: "Deanna and Glen" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:27:33 -0700 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:17:14 -0700 > > > > Hi Gary, > > Some years ago I had read a historical fiction book which > mentioned them. > > Then a few weeks ago I went to a book on line that had a lot of > a woman's > > ancestors. One of the lines was Earp/Harp and near the end of > that section > > was information gathered about those men. Apparently they > operated during > > the Rev. War and around Nashville TN and other places. As far > as I could > > tell with dates, etc. they were not connected to the ones that > settled in > > Overton Co. > > I am interested in what you know about these men. > > Deanna > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Norris, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:31 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > >> > >> > >> Deanna, > >> > >> Do you know the tales about the Big Harp and Little Harp? > >> > >> Gary D. Norris > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Deanna and Glen [SMTP:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:35 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > >> > >> Hi, > >> Thank you for your reply. Yes, this may be the same Samson Williams. > >> I have > >> an ancestor, Rebecca Earp (possibly Harp)who was born 1798 in NC and > >> married > >> Elijah Pile in Overton Co. around 1814. I would like to find her > >> parents' > >> names. I see that there were several Harp families living in > >> Overton Co. > >> during this time and think that she may be the daughter of one of > >> them. > >> There may be a connection to Samson Williams as one of the Harps was > >> named > >> Samson Harp. William Harp Sr. acquired land from Samson Williams - > >> I > >> believe before 1811. Do you know if any wills exist from this early > >> time or > >> were they destroyed in the courthouse fire of 1865? I would like to > >> get a > >> will of both William Harp, Sr. and Samson Williams. > >> It is interesting that you have the deed record from 1817. I > >> recently > >> received the Fentress Co. Historical Society Newsletter and on page > >> 58 there > >> is an article on Moses Fisk. Part reads ".......The act of the > >> General > >> Assembly incorporating Fisk Female Academy recited, "that Moses Fisk > >> and > >> Sampson Williams are willing to contribute one thousand acres of > >> land each > >> toward the endowment of a female academy...." > >> I have information on the Rich family as I am almost positive that I > >> am > >> connected to them also. Is there some info. you need? I can check > >> my file. > >> I also have some info. on Dentons. > >> Deanna > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Carl Cason [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:23 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Williams > >>> > >>> > >>>> I am interested in information on Samson Williams an early > >> settler in > >>>> Overton Co. He was involved in land transactions before 1811 > >>> but I do not > >>>> believe he was on the 1820 Overton Co. census. I understand > >>> that he owned > >>>> over 1000 acres in the area. Could anyone help with information > >> on this > >>>> man. Who were his children? Thanks. > >>>> Deanna > >>> > >>> Deanna, I don't have the 1820 Overton Co. census, but there is a > >>> Sampson Williams in the 1820 >Jackson< Co. census. You don't say > >> how > >>> old he would have been in 1820, but here are the ages of the > >> people in > >>> this household at that time: > >>> > >>> 1 male 0-10 > >>> 1 male 10-15 > >>> 1 male 16-25 > >>> 2 males 45-up > >>> > >>> 4 females 0-10 > >>> 1 female 10-15 > >>> 1 female 16-25 > >>> 1 female 26-45 > >>> > >>> He could have been in that part of Jackson co. that later became > >> part > >>> of Overton Co., or moved to Overton Co. > >>> > >>> From Book E pg 112 of Overton Co. deeds (you may already have > >> this): > >>> > >>> Spencer Grogin to Jesse Rich 13 Oct 1817 both of Overton Co. > >> $100 > >>> 130 acres part of large tract bought by SAMPSON WILLIAMS from > >>> Moses Friske, agent for the New York Company, lying on the > >>> dividing ridge between Kettle Creek and Obed's River, bounded > >> by > >>> land of James armstrong, James Kilman. Wit by William > >> Edwards, > >>> Henry Kilman, and Samuel Scott. Registered 5 Jan 1821. > >>> > >>> Carl Cason, Bothell, Washington > >>> email: [email protected] > >>> Jackson/Clay/Overton Co., Tenn., surnames in my direct lines: > >> CASON, > >>> DENTON, GRAY, HALL, HOGG, MYERS, PEAK/PEEK/E, RICH, SHORT, > >> STEPHENS, > >>> STRONG, TRICE, VAN HOOSER, and WELCH. > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >>> records, go to: > >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > >>> > >> --- > >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > >> > >> > >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > >> [email protected] > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> records, go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > >> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES > >> TOT: [email protected] > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> records, go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> --- > >> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > >> > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > > > > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > WATCH YOUR SUBJECT LINES > Many subscriber Delete a > message based on subject > lines. 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The fellow I talked to a year or so ago said the Oxendines were descended from the Lumbee Indians of South Carolina. He also mentioned the Mulegeon connection as a possibility. Just repeating what I was told. I hope this might be a clue. Gary D. Norris > From: "leuwanna willams" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:50:11 -0800 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Oxendines > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:50:06 -0700 > > Gary > > thank you, I will keep looking, I hadn't heard about Mississippi. > my great Aunt Irene Snyder had done a lot of research on the Oxendine but > she has crossed over now. > > thank you again > lawanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norris, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Oxendines > > > Lawanna, > > The person I talked to in the past said the Oxendines from connected in some > way with the Lumbee tribe of the Carolinas. I thought I would pass this on > as a tip. I don't know the truth of the matter. The Oxendines of Overton > County must have had some slaves. One of the ex-slaves was buried at the > Campground Cemetery in Overton County. I think his name was Levi as I > remember. I do believe the master died down in Corinth, Mississippi from > swamp fever if I remember correctly. > > Gary D. Norris > > -----Original Message----- > From: leuwanna willams [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Oxendines > > thank you. > I have a large amount of info on the Oxendines, with Archibald, > going back > to 1818 or 1812 in Overton co, TN. I am trying to up some lose ends, > before > I spend very much more time on this line. Patsy J Exendine that m. > James > Harmon was suppose of been the daughter of Johnson Exendine, no > documentation. And Johnson Exendine was married to Rebecca, which > some > family members say was Anderson, I believe that Rebecca was a > McDonald from > SC. I also don't have the documentation that Johnson was the son of > Archibald. Do you have some places that I might search. May I ask > who gave > you the info. > lawanna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Norris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Oxendines > > > Oxendines were descendants of the Lumbee Indians of the Carolinas? > I have > received that information a year or two ago. > > Gary D. Norris > >> From: "leuwanna willams" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:09:54 -0800 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] marriage records >> Resent-From: [email protected] >> Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:10:11 -0700 >> >> >> osiyo >> >> looking for marriage record for Johnson M Oxendine and Rebecca > married 14 >> Mar 1834 Overton co, TN. per civil war records, but would like to > find a >> certificate. Also looking for a marriage record for James Ellis > Harmon and >> Patsy Jane Exendine about 1853 (maybe around Slip Gap)Overton co,. > any > info >> would be greatly be appreciated. >> lawanna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: barbara smith [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:18 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Dose anyone have >> >> >> I have also sent 3 times for a marraige cert. for Jobe Rhom, Roam, > Rohm, >> Rome for Overton TN. 1857, 1858, 1859 or 1860. I have been trying > since > Nov. >> at have never got a reply and have sent 2 times to 2 different > places. Any >> idea's from anyone out there! >> Barbara >> [email protected] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Norris" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNOVERTO] Dose anyone have >> >> >>> Barbara, >>> >>> I have been trying to find the Rhum, Rhome, Roam, Roan, Roma and > Rhom >>> familes on familysearch.com today. They are invisible. The > Rhums seem > to >>> leave Overton County about the time the little one of the Rhums > buys a >>> shroud for his child. I know they were here in the Civil War > because >> Champ >>> Ferguson stopped at Rhum's Mill on the Monroe Creek several > times. I am >>> guessing the mill site was at the mouth of Eagle Creek. I think > an old >> mill >>> house once sat there. >>> >>> Gary D. Norris >>> >>>> From: "barbara smith" <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:08:14 -0800 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Dose anyone have >>>> Resent-From: [email protected] >>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:11:36 -0700 >>>> >>>> Dose anyone have the link for the 1850 and 1860 Overton county > TN >> census?I am >>>> trying to find Jobe Rhom, Rohm, Roam, Roma, Rum. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Barbara >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, go >>>> to: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >>> TOT: [email protected] >>> >>> ============================== >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, >> go to: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> WATCH YOUR SUBJECT LINES >> Many subscriber Delete a >> message based on subject >> lines. 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I do believe the Harps were brothers who operated on the Natchez Trace between Nashville and Natchez. They were robbers and murderers. Finally they were killed by a posse. I was told by an old lady that the Harps were distantly connected to the Harps from around Rickman. I kept my mouth shut on that, but not that the lady has died I might mention it to you only as a hint for your research. Gary D. Norris > From: "Deanna and Glen" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:27:33 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:17:14 -0700 > > Hi Gary, > Some years ago I had read a historical fiction book which mentioned them. > Then a few weeks ago I went to a book on line that had a lot of a woman's > ancestors. One of the lines was Earp/Harp and near the end of that section > was information gathered about those men. Apparently they operated during > the Rev. War and around Nashville TN and other places. As far as I could > tell with dates, etc. they were not connected to the ones that settled in > Overton Co. > I am interested in what you know about these men. > Deanna > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Norris, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:31 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams >> >> >> Deanna, >> >> Do you know the tales about the Big Harp and Little Harp? >> >> Gary D. Norris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Deanna and Glen [SMTP:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [TNOVERTO] Williams >> >> Hi, >> Thank you for your reply. Yes, this may be the same Samson Williams. >> I have >> an ancestor, Rebecca Earp (possibly Harp)who was born 1798 in NC and >> married >> Elijah Pile in Overton Co. around 1814. I would like to find her >> parents' >> names. I see that there were several Harp families living in >> Overton Co. >> during this time and think that she may be the daughter of one of >> them. >> There may be a connection to Samson Williams as one of the Harps was >> named >> Samson Harp. William Harp Sr. acquired land from Samson Williams - >> I >> believe before 1811. Do you know if any wills exist from this early >> time or >> were they destroyed in the courthouse fire of 1865? I would like to >> get a >> will of both William Harp, Sr. and Samson Williams. >> It is interesting that you have the deed record from 1817. I >> recently >> received the Fentress Co. Historical Society Newsletter and on page >> 58 there >> is an article on Moses Fisk. Part reads ".......The act of the >> General >> Assembly incorporating Fisk Female Academy recited, "that Moses Fisk >> and >> Sampson Williams are willing to contribute one thousand acres of >> land each >> toward the endowment of a female academy...." >> I have information on the Rich family as I am almost positive that I >> am >> connected to them also. Is there some info. you need? I can check >> my file. >> I also have some info. on Dentons. >> Deanna >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Carl Cason [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:23 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [TNOVERTO] Williams >>> >>> >>>> I am interested in information on Samson Williams an early >> settler in >>>> Overton Co. He was involved in land transactions before 1811 >>> but I do not >>>> believe he was on the 1820 Overton Co. census. I understand >>> that he owned >>>> over 1000 acres in the area. Could anyone help with information >> on this >>>> man. Who were his children? Thanks. >>>> Deanna >>> >>> Deanna, I don't have the 1820 Overton Co. census, but there is a >>> Sampson Williams in the 1820 >Jackson< Co. census. You don't say >> how >>> old he would have been in 1820, but here are the ages of the >> people in >>> this household at that time: >>> >>> 1 male 0-10 >>> 1 male 10-15 >>> 1 male 16-25 >>> 2 males 45-up >>> >>> 4 females 0-10 >>> 1 female 10-15 >>> 1 female 16-25 >>> 1 female 26-45 >>> >>> He could have been in that part of Jackson co. that later became >> part >>> of Overton Co., or moved to Overton Co. >>> >>> From Book E pg 112 of Overton Co. deeds (you may already have >> this): >>> >>> Spencer Grogin to Jesse Rich 13 Oct 1817 both of Overton Co. >> $100 >>> 130 acres part of large tract bought by SAMPSON WILLIAMS from >>> Moses Friske, agent for the New York Company, lying on the >>> dividing ridge between Kettle Creek and Obed's River, bounded >> by >>> land of James armstrong, James Kilman. Wit by William >> Edwards, >>> Henry Kilman, and Samuel Scott. Registered 5 Jan 1821. >>> >>> Carl Cason, Bothell, Washington >>> email: [email protected] >>> Jackson/Clay/Overton Co., Tenn., surnames in my direct lines: >> CASON, >>> DENTON, GRAY, HALL, HOGG, MYERS, PEAK/PEEK/E, RICH, SHORT, >> STEPHENS, >>> STRONG, TRICE, VAN HOOSER, and WELCH. >>> >>> >>> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >>> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATPR: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ============================== >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>> records, go to: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> --- >>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 >>> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: >> [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== >> ADDRESS OVERTON LIST MESSAGES >> TOT: [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> --- >> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 >> > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02 > > > ==== TNOVERTO Mailing List ==== > OVERTON LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >