Laundry! It was my hope that I would get mine done today! NO WAY! Got called into work, so that was that! Just doesn't pay to plan on doing something does it! Never does get done! Even missed my soapy....maybe tomorrow... <<VBG>>> Julie Judy Solis wrote: >Wonderful story, Milly. Bet you still have to scrub that indoor outhouse! > >Would love to hear more. > >

Jim You can contact Robert Bailey at the Roane County Heritage Commission, Old Courthouse in Kingston. Email: robertb@roanetnheritage.com Julie James L Wallace wrote: >TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com > >Do anyone in Morgan Co TN, know of John Wallace Jr. and Phoebe Robbins, >death dates in Morgan Co TN or did they die in Morgan Co TN.. I have his >death February 11, 1863 in Morgan Co TN and Anderson Co TN for John >Wallace Jr.. John bought land there in Morgan Co in the mid 1840s, and >he was there in 1850 Morgan Co TN census. The land lie on the left hand >prong of Emory River near John MADEN's old line. The Morgan Co TN county >line is shown were Clifey Creek road has a big bend, I don’t know were >up the creeks of Emory River, he land lay, were it was south or north of >Oakdale. I was try to find what cemetery were there. > >There was a Book by Robert L.Bailey The Robbins Family Of Scott Co TN. >He said in the book John Wallace and Phoebe Lived Scott County in 1860. >any one know his E-mail Address > >Jim Wallace > >________________________________________________________________ >The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! >Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! >Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > >==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== >Morgan County Homepage >http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi- I found this on the Familysearch.org web site: It may be a start for you. Nancy Hall b. 1787 N.C. d. 31 Mar 1857 Emory, Morgan, Tn Md. 4 Aug. 1809 Roane Co. Tn John Webb, Jr. b. 8 feb 1785 Wilkes co. N.C. d. Emory, Morgan, Tn John Webb b. abt. 1759 Va d. (I have his will) Wilkes Co. N.C. Sp. Ustley/Ursula I believe that John, Jr. is a brother to my Mitchell who was born in 1787 in Wilkes Co. N.C. I don't think that Cutbirth is the father of them. Or maybe Mitchell and John are cousins and John is John's father and Cutbirth is Mitchell's father. Or maybe this older Francis is their father. I am with everyone else in this confusion part. I had made a suggestion earlier about Church records. Baptisms, Births, Marriages, Deaths were records in whichever church they were going to at the time of these events. I do show some webbs having made Land purchases including my Mitchell. I am too far away (Washington State) to do any of the leg work. Tax records aren't enough. If we could find more wills that would help everyone out in the long run. Just some more ideas, Jackie Webb --- On Tue 12/09, Dewey Leach < deweyger@bellsouth.net > wrote: From: Dewey Leach [mailto: deweyger@bellsouth.net] To: TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:42:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [TNMORGAN] Hall Scott Webb And so on <br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Linda Hallman <dixierose@alltel.net><br>To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com><br>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:54 PM<br>Subject: [TNMORGAN] Hall Scott Webb And so on<br><br><br>> Hi Cathy,<br>><br>> I just looked and I have some of your husband family in my data base. It<br>> looks like my line on the Scotts and Halls to<br>> Martin and Nancy Webb Hall. My line from the Scotts is: Nancy Emma Scott<br>> Freels to Russell Scott to Samuel Scott and then Thomas Scott<br>> (Revolutionary War Soldier). I believe I got some of the information from<br>> Margaret Scott before she died. I have as far as Emma Hall.<br>><br>> Don't worry about reading the information wrong. I read stuff wrong all<br>> the time! Maybe when I get the penion application, it will<br>> give me some more clues.<br>><br>> Now........do you have any proof of the parents of John Webb that was<br>> married to Nancy Hall (daughter of Martin & Choe Hendrix Hall)? I feel<! br>> like his father was Cutherath Webb but I have not found any proof. John<br>'s<br>> parents have really been a brick wall for me.<br>><br>> Thanks for all your help.<br>><br>> Linda<br>><br>><br>> Visit our webpages:<br>><br>> Thomaston Upson Archives: http://home.alltel.net/tuarch<br>><br>> Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman<br>><br>><br>> ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ====<br>> List Administrator<br>> Julie Cromwell<br>> janncromwell@highland.net<br>><br>> ==============================<br>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records,<br>go to:<br>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237<br>><br>><br><br><br>==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ====<br>SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! GOD BLESS AMERICA<br><br>==============================<br>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to:<br>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237<br><br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

Thanks Cathy, Not confused. Seems I remember the Martin Martin somewhere in my tiny brain. I have a couple of places to check. I am interested now moreso because my husband's grandmother was a Brooks. I'll get back to on this one. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy <mamartin@highland.net> To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [TNMORGAN] Webb, Halls, and all the others > > PROUD WIFE OF TENNESSEE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD SGT. CURRENTLY ON TRAIN UP FOR > DEPLOYMENT FOR KOSOVO. > > Hi Gerry, > > I will try and get the pension scanned and sent to you by the weekend. > > As for Elizabeth Martin wife of Merry Wren Webb,remember I said her lineage > is questionable.She is suppose to the daughter of one of two men.The first > being Martin Martin.I don't have any of his information in front of me,I > will have to dig it out.LOL > > The second man is Melatiah Martin.He was born 13 Apr 1673 in Swansea,MA. He > married Rebecca Brooks in 1698 in MA. He died 30 Jan 1761 in Swansea, > MA.Rebecca Brooks was born 5 Oct 1679 in MA.She died 11 Apr 1744 in Swansea, > MA.Melatiah was the son of John and Johanna Enstance Esten Martin.John was > born in 1632 or 33 in Swansea,MA.He married Johanna Enstance Esten on 26 Apr > 1671 in Swansea,MA.John died 21 Mar 1713 or 14 in Swansea,MA.Johanna was > born 1 Jun 1645 in Hertfordshire,England,the daughter of Thomas and Ann > Thomas Esten.SHe died 23 Mar 1732 or 33 in Swansea,MA.Now for Rebecca, she > was the daughter of Timothy and Mary Russel Brooks.Timothy was born 1634 in > Middlesex,MA.He married the second time, Mary Russel on 21 Dec 1659 in > Woburn,MA.He died 1712 in Cohansy, Salem,NJ.Mary wsa born sometime between > 1639-1645 in Charleston,Sulfork,MA.She died 15 Sept 1680 in > Billeriea,MA.Timothy Brooks was the son of Henry Brooks.Henry was born @ > 1591 in England.He married Grace Wheeler in 1621 in England.He died 12 Apr > 1683 in Wuburn,MA.Grace was born in 1594 in England and died 12 May 1664 in > Middlesex,MA.Mary Rusel was the daughter of John Russel and Elizabeth Baker, > his third wife.John was born in 1616 in Dartmouth,Bristol,MA.He married > Elizabeth Baker on 13 May 1645.He died 1 Jun 1676 in > Woburn,Middlesex,MA.Elizabeth was born @1619 in Penton > Grafton,Weyhill,Hampshire,England.She died 16 Dec 1644 in > Woburn,Middlesex,England. > > Are you confused yet?LOL > > Remember all this information is on the assumption that Elizabeth is the > daughter of Melatiah Martin.Her parentage has not been proven to me as of > yet.If I can find the proof that she is indeed his daughter,then we have it > made on her mom's side.There is a great Brooks webite and mailing list that > comes with you proving a Brooks lineage.If they tell you something they will > send you the proof of it.I haven't ask for any proof, due to the fact that I > can't prove Elizabeth's parentage and neither can anyone else that I have > talked to.The confusion is due to the fact that both Martin Martin and > Melatiah Martin both had daughters named Elizabeth and both these Elizabeths > married Webbs.I've even had researchers tell me that these two men are the > same person and that his full name was Melatiah Martin Martin.They tell me > but they can't prove it. > > I'll leave it at that now that I probably have you throughly confused.LOL > > Cath7y > > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== > List Administrator > Julie Cromwell > janncromwell@highland.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Gerry- Do you have access to the Morgan county Cemetery records in book form? I am looking for early Webb Burials. Beginning of county formation to 1840 but especially Rhoda Webb who was the first wife of Mitchell Webb. She was an Elmore. Thanks, Jackie Webb --- On Wed 12/10, Dewey Leach < deweyger@bellsouth.net > wrote: From: Dewey Leach [mailto: deweyger@bellsouth.net] To: TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:47:30 -0800 Subject: [TNMORGAN] Webb, Halls, and all the others Linda,<br><br>I am sending this through TNMORGAN so Cathy Martin can see it also. I would love to hear more about Elizabeth. Oh yes, Kathy Freels' married name is Brown. Her website if the Joe and Lucy Human Freels site.<br><br>Do either of you have anything on Willis' brothers Riley or Martin? I have nothing on who they married or if they were married nor do I have anything on who their sister Polly married. Also, do you know where Willis and Margaret are buried? Mother says they are buried in Webb Cemetery on the Morgan/Scott Co. lines. I can't find them listed. It could be that their gravesites are unmarked or can't be read <br><br>Thanks, and I hope we can pole vault that wall together.<br><br>Gerry<br><br><br><br>==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ====<br>Morgan County Books:<br>http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/MorganCountyBooks.html<br><br>==============================<br>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to:<br>http://www.ances! try.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237<br><br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

Wonderful story, Milly. Bet you still have to scrub that indoor outhouse! Would love to hear more. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MPiros1120@aol.com> To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [TNMORGAN] Not REALLY genealogy, but in a way it is! Enjoy! > http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/family/article/0,1406,KNS_308_2489406,00.html > > Neat story, Julie.. > > I remember laundry in Fentress County when we had no electricity till 1958. > My Aunt Effie Leffew had a big huge black pot outside(sure wish I had that now > <G>) She boiled water in it. Then it was hauled to another galvinized tub. She > also had a well where you had to drop the bucket and and draw the water from > about 25 or 30 feet down. It was as cold as ice and so oooo good. Well, on > wash day we kids took turns drawing the water as it was called. That was when I > lived with Aunt Effie. After my mother died we lived in Fork Mountain. Daddy > had come up north looking for work...Guess who had to provide for us, my > stepmother, 6 yr. old brother and 2 yr. old sister.....ME age 11. There was no well > but a shared pump for the neighborhood. After I went to the store..postoffice > for a nickel script, if I was lucky I got a dime. Then I would work pumping > water for people to wash clothes. After the was I'd scrub the outhouse with left > over wash water...My how times have changed......Now, I just go to the > basement and throw the laundry in the washer.....No more pumping or drawing water > but these old arms sure ache like I still do <G> > > Milly WARD Piros > List Rootsweb Administrator for Anderson Co Tn~Campbell Co Tn and Fentress Co > Tn > > http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html > > Genealogists live in the PAST Lane > > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== > Visit Our Guest Book: http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/guestbook.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Gerry- My line is Mitchell that left Morgan county by the 1840 Census to settle southern Illinois. Just wondering if anyone has checked church records for morgan county? Do they exist? Just a thought. Also are there any wills out there? Just some questions. Mitchells first son was named Francis and his second was Allen. Jackie Webb --- On Tue 12/09, Dewey Leach < deweyger@bellsouth.net > wrote: From: Dewey Leach [mailto: deweyger@bellsouth.net] To: TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:05:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [TNMORGAN] Hall Scott Webb And so on Linda,<br><br>I have a page from an old Morgan County Hist. Soc. newsletter showing the<br>lineage of John Webb, Sr. It shows John Webb, Sr. being born 1785 in N. C.<br>Further on it says that it is believed that he and the Halls both came from<br>Wilkes County, N. C. at about the same time. The article reads "From 1805<br>when the Indian title to the Cumberland Plateau was extinguished, until 1817<br>the territory that was to become Morgan County was a part of Roane County.<br>The first report of a Webb being in the area was of his marriage to Nancy<br>Hall in 1909 in Roane County,later Morgan Co. Several years ago an old<br>Roane County tax book was discovered that contained the tax records for the<br>yeas of 1814, 1815, 1816, and 1817. John Webb is listed for all four years<br>and is the only Webb shown. The 1820 census was only a head count. The<br>1830 census indicates that there are now 3 other Webb families living in the<br>county in addition of John Webb, Sr. ! They are Culbirth, between 20 and 30<br>years old, Mitchell between 40 and 50 yrs. old and Francis, between 60 and<br>70 years old. John was now 45 yrs. old. The article goes on to say that<br>John Mitchell and Cutbirth are all of an age group where they would be<br>brothers. Francis appears to be too old for a brother. John's age and<br>place of birth comes from his will, Morgan County Deed Book M. Pages 263-64,<br>dated july 30, 1841. Several children are listed, but the name Cutbirth is<br>not one of them. It's also interesting that Nancy Hall's family goes back<br>to Martin Hall whose mother was a "Webb". I haven't been able to find<br>anything else on Cutbirth either.<br><br>This article was one of the first items which helped me with my line which<br>is also from John and Nancy. My line comes through Willis Webb and Margaret<br>Stewart. When your line goes back that far, you're related to almost half<br>of Morgan County in one way or another.<br><br>If you fi! nd anything else on John's parentage, I would love to know about<br>i t and I will keep you in mind, too. I've run into that same brick wall.<br><br>Gerry Taylor Leach<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Linda Hallman <dixierose@alltel.net><br>To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com><br>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:54 PM<br>Subject: [TNMORGAN] Hall Scott Webb And so on<br><br><br>> Hi Cathy,<br>><br>> I just looked and I have some of your husband family in my data base. It<br>> looks like my line on the Scotts and Halls to<br>> Martin and Nancy Webb Hall. My line from the Scotts is: Nancy Emma Scott<br>> Freels to Russell Scott to Samuel Scott and then Thomas Scott<br>> (Revolutionary War Soldier). I believe I got some of the information from<br>> Margaret Scott before she died. I have as far as Emma Hall.<br>><br>> Don't worry about reading the information wrong. I read stuff wrong all<br>> the time! Maybe when I get the penion application, it will<br>> give me some more clues.<br>><br>> Now........do you have any proof of the parents of! John Webb that was<br>> married to Nancy Hall (daughter of Martin & Choe Hendrix Hall)? I feel<br>> like his father was Cutherath Webb but I have not found any proof. John<br>'s<br>> parents have really been a brick wall for me.<br>><br>> Thanks for all your help.<br>><br>> Linda<br>><br>><br>> Visit our webpages:<br>><br>> Thomaston Upson Archives: http://home.alltel.net/tuarch<br>><br>> Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman<br>><br>><br>> ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ====<br>> List Administrator<br>> Julie Cromwell<br>> janncromwell@highland.net<br>><br>> ==============================<br>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records,<br>go to:<br>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237<br>><br>><br><br><br>==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ====<br>Morgan County Books:<br>http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/MorganCountyBooks.html<br><br>==============================<br>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 bi! llion online genealogy records, go to:<br>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/r ed ir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237<br><br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Do anyone in Morgan Co TN, know of John Wallace Jr. and Phoebe Robbins, death dates in Morgan Co TN or did they die in Morgan Co TN.. I have his death February 11, 1863 in Morgan Co TN and Anderson Co TN for John Wallace Jr.. John bought land there in Morgan Co in the mid 1840s, and he was there in 1850 Morgan Co TN census. The land lie on the left hand prong of Emory River near John MADEN's old line. The Morgan Co TN county line is shown were Clifey Creek road has a big bend, I don’t know were up the creeks of Emory River, he land lay, were it was south or north of Oakdale. I was try to find what cemetery were there. There was a Book by Robert L.Bailey The Robbins Family Of Scott Co TN. He said in the book John Wallace and Phoebe Lived Scott County in 1860. any one know his E-mail Address Jim Wallace ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Do you have a Seals Louise Freels nee ? that married Arthur Alford Westmoreland in Harriman around 1959? Sandy Newport -----Original Message----- From: Dewey Leach [mailto:deweyger@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:31 AM To: TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNMORGAN] John Webb Sr Hi Linda, You and I just keep crossing paths. I think I have talked to you before about the Freels line. My gr aunt Lucy Human(daughter of Charles Wesley and Elizabeth WEBB Human) was married to Joe Freels. When do they have the Freels reunion? Was there a Cathy Freels from Lebanon, Tn. there? Her married name escapes me right now.Her e-mail address is LITTLEDIDDLE which doesn't help a great lot. She does have her own website though. Our families were very close when I was young. I think I may have talked to you about Nancy Naomi and which one married Preston Human. I didn't have some of the info you had on the grandfather of John Webb. Are you saying that John and Million Webb are John Webb's (who married Nancy Hall ) lineage also? I wasn't sure if this were two separate families of Webbs. I only had Nancy connected to Million Webb. I got this same info from the article I mentioned before. Million was the son of Merry Webb, Sr. of Henry Co., Va. The pedigree on Nancy Hall goes through Martin and Chloe, Million Webb and Samuel Hall, Sr. with Million's father as Merry Webb and Samuel Hall, Sr.'s father as John Hall The John Webb who married Nancy Hall is kinda leaning against that brick wall with no ancestors. I didn't have him connected to Nancy's Webbs. Do you have a copy of the will or any documentation? As I said, what I got came was an old newsletter and it doesn't say who gave the info, just that it came from the Historical Society. I haven't been over to the library in several years. Sure wish I could get out and go like I used to. I would love to spend a few days at the library now. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Hallman <dixierose@alltel.net> To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: [TNMORGAN] John Webb Sr > Hi Gerry, > > It does seems like we are related to just about everybody in Morgan > County. I just wish they were all interested in their > heritage a little more. We might could find out more than we'll looking > for. When I come up for the Scott and Freels Reunion, everyone but the > cousins that live in Morgan Co. come. I don't understand that. > > I had not heard about the Roane County tax book that contained the tax > records for the years of 1814, 1815, 1816, and 1817. > There were two Culbirth. But again, I do not know who was the son of > who. I have tried to follow Francis, and again I have lost his trail. If I > remember right, I only found one case where John Webb was signing with > Francis on a piece of land. There was nothing stating the relationship > between the two men. I was hoping this would tell me they were father and > son. No such luck. > > I do know that John Webb's grandfather was also a John Webb in Wilkes Co., > NC. He died that same year our John was born in 1785. The grandfather, > John Webb list his three son in his will, Culbirth, Jonthan and Francis. > Jonthan married, but had no sons. This older John Webb was also the brother > of Million Webb that married Samuel Hall, Sr. of Virginia. (They were the > parents of our Martin and Samuel Hall.) If you need any additonal > information on these Webb's let me know. We might claim over that brick > wall together! > > Linda > Thomaston, Georgia > > > Visit our webpages: > > Thomaston Upson Archives: http://home.alltel.net/tuarch > > Dixie Rose's Homepage: http://home.alltel.net/ehallman > > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== > Morgan County Books: > http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/MorganCountyBooks.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=123 7 > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== Visit Our Guest Book: http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/guestbook.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=123 7

PROUD WIFE OF TENNESSEE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD SGT. CURRENTLY ON TRAIN UP FOR DEPLOYMENT FOR KOSOVO. Hi Gerry, I will try and get the pension scanned and sent to you by the weekend. As for Elizabeth Martin wife of Merry Wren Webb,remember I said her lineage is questionable.She is suppose to the daughter of one of two men.The first being Martin Martin.I don't have any of his information in front of me,I will have to dig it out.LOL The second man is Melatiah Martin.He was born 13 Apr 1673 in Swansea,MA. He married Rebecca Brooks in 1698 in MA. He died 30 Jan 1761 in Swansea, MA.Rebecca Brooks was born 5 Oct 1679 in MA.She died 11 Apr 1744 in Swansea, MA.Melatiah was the son of John and Johanna Enstance Esten Martin.John was born in 1632 or 33 in Swansea,MA.He married Johanna Enstance Esten on 26 Apr 1671 in Swansea,MA.John died 21 Mar 1713 or 14 in Swansea,MA.Johanna was born 1 Jun 1645 in Hertfordshire,England,the daughter of Thomas and Ann Thomas Esten.SHe died 23 Mar 1732 or 33 in Swansea,MA.Now for Rebecca, she was the daughter of Timothy and Mary Russel Brooks.Timothy was born 1634 in Middlesex,MA.He married the second time, Mary Russel on 21 Dec 1659 in Woburn,MA.He died 1712 in Cohansy, Salem,NJ.Mary wsa born sometime between 1639-1645 in Charleston,Sulfork,MA.She died 15 Sept 1680 in Billeriea,MA.Timothy Brooks was the son of Henry Brooks.Henry was born @ 1591 in England.He married Grace Wheeler in 1621 in England.He died 12 Apr 1683 in Wuburn,MA.Grace was born in 1594 in England and died 12 May 1664 in Middlesex,MA.Mary Rusel was the daughter of John Russel and Elizabeth Baker, his third wife.John was born in 1616 in Dartmouth,Bristol,MA.He married Elizabeth Baker on 13 May 1645.He died 1 Jun 1676 in Woburn,Middlesex,MA.Elizabeth was born @1619 in Penton Grafton,Weyhill,Hampshire,England.She died 16 Dec 1644 in Woburn,Middlesex,England. Are you confused yet?LOL Remember all this information is on the assumption that Elizabeth is the daughter of Melatiah Martin.Her parentage has not been proven to me as of yet.If I can find the proof that she is indeed his daughter,then we have it made on her mom's side.There is a great Brooks webite and mailing list that comes with you proving a Brooks lineage.If they tell you something they will send you the proof of it.I haven't ask for any proof, due to the fact that I can't prove Elizabeth's parentage and neither can anyone else that I have talked to.The confusion is due to the fact that both Martin Martin and Melatiah Martin both had daughters named Elizabeth and both these Elizabeths married Webbs.I've even had researchers tell me that these two men are the same person and that his full name was Melatiah Martin Martin.They tell me but they can't prove it. I'll leave it at that now that I probably have you throughly confused.LOL Cath7y

For your information Fentress Co., TN Marriages, 1905-1936, Book I, by T. McCoy, R. J. Ellis, & C. S. Posey, 218 pages with index. Most records include: groom, bride, bond date, marriage date, bondsmen or oath witness and who performed the marriage. Send check or money order to B & D Etc., 193 PHillips Flats Rd., Oneida, TN 37841. $ 30.00 for the book and 4.50 for priority shipping for the first book and 1.50 for each additional book. Book may also be picted up at Jenning Funeral Home in Jamestown, TN and Oneida Book & Gift in Oneida, TN > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== > List Administrator > Julie Cromwell > janncromwell@highland.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks for the wonderful story Milly! Bev Gray

>From The Knoxville News Sentinel 10 Dec 2003 FORDE, ROBERT HUGH - age 77, of Oak Ridge FOWLER, PEGGY G. - age 61, HERNDON, JEAN MARS - 81, of Oak Ridge LUDWIG, ROBERT L. "BOB" - age 81, MINCEY, WILLIE "RUTH" - age 95, of Oak Ridge, ========================================= FORDE, ROBERT HUGH - age 77, of Oak Ridge passed away Monday, December 8, 2003 at home. He was a member of St. Mary's Catholic Church of Oak Ridge. A loving father that was involved with ASHRAE, Knights of Columbus, High School Booster member for Football and Band, a Boys Club coach and an avid bowler for many years. He was proceeded in death by: his wife, Betty Sue Forde. He is survived by: his children, Deborah M.Beachboard and husband James L. Beachboard of Hixson, Patricia H. Forde of Oak Ridge, Vennesa J. Smallen and husband Fredrick P. Smallen of Oak Ridge, Robert K. Forde and wife Janet E. Forde of Tullahoma, Julie M.See and husband Scott W. See of Chattanooga, and Phillip L. Forde and wife Tritina M. Forde of Kingsport. He is also survived by: his sister, Teresa Donovan of Melbourne, FL. He is also survived by: 13 grandchildren and 7 great-grandchildren. Family visitation will be Wednesday from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m.. with Rosary following at Martin Funeral Home. Funeral service will be Thursday at 10:00 a.m. at St. Mary's Catholic Church with burial at Anderson Memorial Gardens. FOWLER, PEGGY G. - age 61, passed on December 9, 2003 at her home in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Mrs. Fowler was born on April 4, 1942 near Athens, Georgia. She was a graduate of Athens High School and Clemson University where she received a Bachelor's Degree in Mathematics. She married Ron Fowler in 1961 and the couple moved to Oak Ridge in 1968. Mrs. Fowler was a long-time employee at Oak Ridge National Laboratory and was employed several years at The Department of Energy K-25. She worked in several divisions at ORNL, the most recent being Business Services in The SAP Technical Support Group. In the 1980's she owned her own business which provided computing services to ORNL. Mrs. Fowler was employed for briefer periods at Science Applications International Corporation, The Department of Energy Technical Information Center and The Maxima Corporation. She had many interests including traveling, flower gardening and reading. She also hiked frequently in the Smoky Mountains and the Canadian Rockies. Recently she was a volunteer at Aid to Distressed Families of Anderson County, providing assistance to low income families. In addition to her husband, Mrs. Fowler is survived by her two sons, Alan Fowler and his wife, Michelle and Joel Fowler and his wife, Amanda, all of Chattanooga and by her mother, Bonnie Seagraves of Athens, Georgia. A memorial service will be held at United Church Chapel on the Hill in Oak Ridge. Arrangements are pending. In lieu of flowers, the family requests that any memorials be in the form of contributions to Vanderbilt-Ingram Cancer Center, 691 Preston Building, Nashville, TN 37232; Aid to Distressed Families of Anderson County, 1051 Oak Ridge Turnpike, Oak Ridge, TN 37830 or to Habitat for Humanity, 85 Kentucky Avenue, Oak Ridge, TN 37830. East Tennessee Mortuary Service in charge. 539-2458. HERNDON, JEAN MARS - 81, of Oak Ridge died December 7th at Methodist Medical Center after a brief illness. Born August 24, 1922 in LaFollette, TN, she was the daughter of C.W. Mars and Claudia Grace Alexander Mars. She is survived by: her husband of 55 years Preston G. Herndon; and four daughters and spouses, Gail and Tom Fennimore of Charlotte, NC, Caryl and John Hall of Troutman, NC, Leigh Baron of Tipp City, OH and Gwen Herndon of Charlotte, NC; nine grandchildren also survive her: Blair and Keenan Fennimore; John, Jr. and Gregory Hall; Trevor, Chelsea, and Cullen Baron; and Antonia and Alexander Herndon. She has one surviving sister, Helen Davenport of Stormlake, IA and many nieces and nephews. After attending business school in Chillicothe, OH, she was employed by the Fleet Oil Company and during W.W.II held a secretarial position in the Inspector General's Office in Washington, DC. After the war, she accepted a position with Newsome Motor Company, a Kaiser-Frazier automobile agency in Bradenton, FL where she met and married her husband. While he attended the Univ. of Florida, she held the position of secretary to the head of the Department of Architecture and Allied Arts. After his graduation in 1950, they moved to Oak Ridge where he accepted an engineering position with Union Carbide Corp. and they have resided here continuously for 53 years. During the early years, 1950-1974, in Oak Ridge, she concentrated on rearing her family and was active in the Campfire Girls organization and school activities. From 1974 until retirement in 1993, she held the position of business manager at the Emory Valley Center. She was a loving caring wife and mother and her memory will be cherished forever in the hearts of her family and friends. She had many and varied interests that she embraced enthusiastically. She was an avid sports fan especially for the lady VOLS basketball team and the professional women's tennis tournaments. She and her husband faithfully attended UT football games for many years. They were also accomplished ballroom dancers and were members of several local dance clubs over the years. Travel was another special love of hers. She and her husband traveled extensively here and abroad to places of interest and attended his military reunions held throughout the United States. She loved reading and was an avid collector of many different items such as postage stamps, coins, Lladró ceramics figures, and Dickens Village. The Christmas season each year was a special time in her life. Throughout the year, she carefully selected just the right gift for each family member and friend and personally wrapped each one. She shunned Christmas form letters and composed personal handwritten letters each year to long time friends. A memorial service will be held Friday December 12, 2003 at 2:00 p.m., at First United Methodist Church of Oak Ridge with the Rev. Bob Cantrell officiating. The family will welcome friends in the Fellowship Hall immediately following the service. In lieu of flowers memorial donations may be made to the Emory Valley Center Foundation, 715 Emory Valley Road, Oak Ridge, TN 37830. Arrangements by Cremation Options, Inc. (865) 6WE-CARE(693-2273). LUDWIG, ROBERT L. "BOB" - age 81, of Kingston, passed away on Monday, December 8, 2003. He was a member of Bethel Presbyterian Church. Bob was a graduate of the University of Tennessee and the University of Wisconsin with degrees in chemical and metallurgical engineering, and was employed at the Y-12 plant in Oak Ridge until his retirement. During his retirement, he spent his time in the service of his church as treasurer for 23 years and enjoyed a variety of hobbies including wildflower gardening and woodworking. He is survived by: his wife of 58 years, Ruth Ann Ludwig; sister, Betty Sjoberg of Texas; brother and sister-in-law Don and Ann Ludwig of Chattanooga, TN; daughter and son-in-law Nancy and Vic King of Kingston; and son and daughter-in-law David and Joy Ludwig of Signal Mountain, TN. He leaves grandchildren Charlie King, Jon King, Jennifer Stone and Stephanie Devine. The Memorial Service will be held at Bethel Presbyterian Church on Thursday, December 11, at 2:00 p.m. with the Reverend Mark Sherrod officiating. Interment will be private. In lieu of flowers, the family suggests a donation to the Memorial Fund at Bethel Presbyterian Church, 203 South Kentucky Street, Kingston, TN 37763. Kyker Funeral Home in charge of arrangements MINCEY, WILLIE "RUTH" - age 95, of Oak Ridge, passed away Monday, December 8, 2003 at Briarcliff Health Care Center. She was born May 14, 1908 in Bristol, Virginia to the late Walter H. and Jo Ann Newman Dayberry. She moved to Knoxville at the age of 2 and moved to Oak Ridge in 1945 and lived there until the time of her death. She was a Packer for East Tennessee Packing Company. She enjoyed various crafts, collecting dolls, sewing, quilting and working in her flower garden. Besides her parents, she was preceded in death by her husbands, Jesse L. Trent and Everett W. Mincey; son, Raymond L. Trent; brother, "Boyd" Dayberry; sisters, Edith Lyle and Beverlyn Daniels. Survivors include daughter and son-in-law, Dolores Tyree Childress and Mike Childress of Salem, VA; son, Jack Trent of Manchester, TN; sister, Margaret Bates of Knoxville; 13 grandchildren; 20 great-grandchildren; 25 great-great- grandchildren; several nieces, nephews and friends. The funeral service will be Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 1:00 p.m. at Martin Oak Ridge Funeral Home with interment following at Anderson Memorial Gardens on Highway 61 in Clinton. The family will receive friends from 11:00 a.m. until 1:00 p.m. at Martin Oak Ridge Funeral Home. ============================================ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS---FLY THE FLAG Count no day lost in which you have waited your turn, took only your share and sought advantage over no one.

http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/family/article/0,1406,KNS_308_2489406,00.html Neat story, Julie.. I remember laundry in Fentress County when we had no electricity till 1958. My Aunt Effie Leffew had a big huge black pot outside(sure wish I had that now <G>) She boiled water in it. Then it was hauled to another galvinized tub. She also had a well where you had to drop the bucket and and draw the water from about 25 or 30 feet down. It was as cold as ice and so oooo good. Well, on wash day we kids took turns drawing the water as it was called. That was when I lived with Aunt Effie. After my mother died we lived in Fork Mountain. Daddy had come up north looking for work...Guess who had to provide for us, my stepmother, 6 yr. old brother and 2 yr. old sister.....ME age 11. There was no well but a shared pump for the neighborhood. After I went to the store..postoffice for a nickel script, if I was lucky I got a dime. Then I would work pumping water for people to wash clothes. After the was I'd scrub the outhouse with left over wash water...My how times have changed......Now, I just go to the basement and throw the laundry in the washer.....No more pumping or drawing water but these old arms sure ache like I still do <G> Milly WARD Piros List Rootsweb Administrator for Anderson Co Tn~Campbell Co Tn and Fentress Co Tn http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html Genealogists live in the PAST Lane

Hi, Yes, this is the Nancy of Martin and Chloe who married John Webb. We were trying to decide if John's line was a separate Webb line than the one Nancy comes from, that being Million Webb and Merry Wenn Webb. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TIME4MUSIC@aol.com> To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [TNMORGAN] John Webb Sr - Gerry Question > In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:37:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, > deweyger@bellsouth.net writes: > > > > The pedigree on Nancy Hall goes through Martin and Chloe, > > Million Webb and Samuel Hall, Sr. with Million's father as Merry Webb and > > Samuel Hall, Sr.'s father as John Hall The John Webb who married > > Nancy Hall is kinda leaning against that brick wall with no ancestors > > Hi Gerry .... > My Hall files aren't in the order they should be ... which Nancy Hall is > this? When you mention her pedigree, was she a daughter of Martin and Chloe? > > Thanks! > > Jill Jones-Lazuka > > <A HREF="www.serendipity.christinagirl.com">Serendipity</A> > > > > > > > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== > WHAT'S NEW on the Morgan County pages > http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/WHATSNEW.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:37:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, deweyger@bellsouth.net writes: > The pedigree on Nancy Hall goes through Martin and Chloe, > Million Webb and Samuel Hall, Sr. with Million's father as Merry Webb and > Samuel Hall, Sr.'s father as John Hall The John Webb who married > Nancy Hall is kinda leaning against that brick wall with no ancestors Hi Gerry .... My Hall files aren't in the order they should be ... which Nancy Hall is this? When you mention her pedigree, was she a daughter of Martin and Chloe? Thanks! Jill Jones-Lazuka <A HREF="www.serendipity.christinagirl.com">Serendipity</A>

Hi all, I just found a page on John Webb with his parents listed as John Webb and Usteley. It shows John, their son, as being born in Martinsdale, N.C., 1785. This information came from the LDS Church records so I do not have a source on it. I might be able to find one, but it will take awhile. Sometimes we have access to the actual information as it was sent in. I had forgotten about this until I went into Family Search. It's not that reliable but does give a direction. Gerry

Hi Cathy, You were referring to Elizabeth, wife of Merry Webb. I was just curious to how much info you had because I have nothing. Is there any way you can scan the pension application of Willis? I would love to have a copy. He is my gr grandfather. I have about the same information on Riley and Polly that you have. Probably from the census records. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy <mamartin@highland.net> To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [TNMORGAN] Webb, Halls, and all the others > > PROUD WIFE OF TENNESSEE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD SGT. CURRENTLY ON TRAIN UP FOR > DEPLOYMENT FOR KOSOVO. > > Hi Gerry, > > Sorry, but I don't have any information on Riley and Polly. The only thing > that I have for William P. is that he married an Anna Unknown.According to > the 1860 and 1870 Morgan County census records, they had three > children.However by the difference in the age of the oldest,California > (female) born 1849 and the second Mary born 1857, they must of had some that > died.The third child was Hopy born 1861.William P. is dead by 1870, Anna is > listed with the children.By 1880 she is either remarried or has > moved.Neither she nor the children are listed in Morgan Co. or at least not > as Webbs. > > I have the pension applications of Willis,Samuel and John,Jr. > > When you say that you want to hear more on Elizabeth, to whom are you > referring? > > Cathy > > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== > Morgan County Homepage > http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Jesse, I have some Morgan County marriage records which have been transcribed from the Wartburg Library. It shows Jonathan McPeters married to Hopa Hall about 1825 (N.C.). Second marriage was to Phebe Laymance about 1836. I don't know who compiled the lists, but the dates tell me that the info came from somewhere other than a marriage license. It's possible that they were derived from census records as I "think" some of the records were destroyed during the Civil War. Anyway, the second marriage might give you something to work on. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Williams <jessewms@knology.net> To: <TNMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: [TNMORGAN] Who was Jonathan McPeters father and mother > Hello List, > > Does anyone have any new or documented information on the Parentage of > Jonathan McPETERS born about 1800 married to Hopa HALL. Since there are > two Jonathan McPETERS born about the same time and lived in the same area > it is very hard to know one from the other. I was hoping some of the HALL > decendents may have ran across some documentation on this. > > Jesse > Columbus, Georgia > > > ==== TNMORGAN Mailing List ==== > Morgan County Books: > http://www.tngenweb.org/morgan/MorganCountyBooks.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

PROUD WIFE OF TENNESSEE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD SGT. CURRENTLY ON TRAIN UP FOR DEPLOYMENT FOR KOSOVO. Hi Gerry, Sorry, but I don't have any information on Riley and Polly. The only thing that I have for William P. is that he married an Anna Unknown.According to the 1860 and 1870 Morgan County census records, they had three children.However by the difference in the age of the oldest,California (female) born 1849 and the second Mary born 1857, they must of had some that died.The third child was Hopy born 1861.William P. is dead by 1870, Anna is listed with the children.By 1880 she is either remarried or has moved.Neither she nor the children are listed in Morgan Co. or at least not as Webbs. I have the pension applications of Willis,Samuel and John,Jr. When you say that you want to hear more on Elizabeth, to whom are you referring? Cathy