Thanks to everyone for their suggestions on my 3rd GGM, Frances Trotter. Jean - everytime I turn around over the years there you are helping. I really appreciate it. Since Frances states she was born in VA I will follow those leads. Also, her age on 1850 census makes her about 18 in 1820 and on 1820 Montgomery Co census these are 3 "suspects" as they all have a female in the right age group. Based on that census her father could be Isham or George. Benjamin has one also but based on his age group he could only be her brother. Then again it could be somebody else. Thanks again.