Arlington (belonged to the Custis family not the Lee family) was `spoils of War'. Later c188? the Custis family sued the government and ended up selling it to the government for $150,000. jerree

Barbara, I looked in some of my reference books and found the following: Tenn. Wills & Administrations, 1779-1861 James McCarrel, 1813,Will book 2, page 61, Knox Co. James McCarrell, 1836, Will book 6, page 21, Knox Co. Margaret McCarrell, 1819, Will book 3, page 109, Knox Co. William McCarrell, 1815, Will book 2, page 184, Knox Co. Keziah McCarrol, 1841, Will book 3, page 0. Sumner Co. Narcissa McCarrol, 1859, Will book 1, page 89, Dyer Co. Abner McCarroll, 1841, Misc. Records book 1, page 352, Benton Co. Francis McCarroll, 1860, Will book i, page 227, Stewart Co. and Montgomery Co. Marriages Records James E. McCarroll to Susan Stevinson, August 30, 1854 Hope this helps you some. Deanna

Elaine, PS... Lee asked for a pardon and was refused (don't remember which president). Lee died in 1870. jerree

Brig Gen Montgomery Meigs in 1864 appropriated Arlington House and grounds for a National Cemetery. (Spoils of War). Lee's wife was a Custis from the Martha Dandridge Custis Washington line. I don't know about Jefferson Davis being pardoned......I know he got prison time in Florida. I have never been to Arlington.....I don't do cemeteries. jerree

Elaine, No, I have not read Chamberlain's book.... hope to some day..... I don't think anybody at the surrender had anything to yell about......Lee came with his aid's and Traveler, his men were in an apple orchard quite a ways down the road. They had not eaten for five days....the men outside were in blue uniforms and they had as much respect for Lee and his own men. jerree

It was taken because of back taxes, that hadn't been paid. When Lee offered to pay the government in Washington refused it. They wanted it for a cemetery. You really should read"The Lady of Arlington". Mary

Congratulations to Helen and Jim Hendricks. Hope you have many more years together. Ann

In a message dated 8/22/02 8:24:33 PM Central Daylight Time, bzbee@bellsouth.net writes: > The property was confiscated by the federal government when property > taxes levied against Arlington estate > were not paid in person by Mrs. Lee. The property was offered for > public sale Jan. 11, 1864, and was > purchased by a tax commissioner for "government use, for war, > military, charitable and educational > purposes." > > Arlington National Cemetery was established by Brigadier General > Montgomery C. Meigs, who commanded > the garrison at Arlington House, appropriated the grounds June 15, > 1864, for use as a military cemetery. His > intention was to render the house uninhabitable should the Lee family > ever attempt to return. A stone and > masonry burial vault in the rose garden, 20 feet wide and 10 feet > deep, and containing the remains of 1,800 > Bull Run casualties, was among the first monuments to Union dead > erected under Meigs' orders. Meigs > himself was later buried within 100 yards of Arlington House with his > wife, father and son; the final statement > to his original order. > > Neither Robert E. Lee, nor his wife, as title holder, ever attempted > to publicly recover control of Arlington > House. They were buried at Washington University (later renamed > Washington and Lee University) where Lee > had served as president. The couple never returned to the home George > Washington Parke Custis had built > and treasured. > > After General Lee's death in 1870, George Washington Custis Lee > brought an action for ejectment in the > Circuit Court of Alexandria (today Arlington) County, Va. Custis Lee, > as eldest son of Gen. and Mrs. Lee, > claimed that the land had been illegally confiscated and that, > according to his grandfather's will, he was the > legal owner. In December 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5-4 > decision, returned the property to Custis Lee, > stating that it had been confiscated without due process. On March 3, > 1883, the Congress purchased the > property from Lee for $150,000. > JoAnne Thank you for that info. Looks like crooks took it after all. But in due time it was returned to the family (family member) who promptly sold it. Oh well..... William

In a message dated 8/22/02 5:13:25 PM Central Daylight Time, Katt1930@aol.com writes: > Please look up in the dictionary: > > Revolution > Civil > > There is a difference..... > yes, Jerree and defining a 'thing' goes to the victor.

Nope, to tell you the truth, haven't actually looked yet. Found out about him about the time my aunts started getting in such bad health a few years back and kind of shelved what I was into at the time. Just now getting back in the swing of it all. But will let yall know on Stewart when I find him. jan At 12:30 AM 8/22/02 -0400, you wrote: >Jan, > >Did you ever find his grave? >I hired an sharp old historian in Tupelo-MS that combed the county for CSA >graves and he found nothing. The bonus was he would not charge me cause he >didn't find a clue. I sent him a check anyway and he never cashed it. He has >probably been dead for 20 years now. My CSA 2g gf was 53 years old and died >of pneumonia. > >jerree

In a message dated 8/22/02 4:50:30 PM Central Daylight Time, Katt1930@aol.com writes: > Did you all know that Arlington National Cemetery was Robert E Lee's wife's > I did know this. What I don't know is whether the land was donated to the US from the Lee family or if it was taken from them. Do you know? If it was 'stolen' then that is a terrible slap in the face that victor's are able to do if less than honorable! William

Yes, but in the article it seems that it was so desecrated that noone could live in it. I understand that the govt. has made a beautiful site there. So just as well forget and enjoy it. BarnesWK@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/22/02 8:24:33 PM Central Daylight Time, > bzbee@bellsouth.net writes: > > > The property was confiscated by the federal government when property > > taxes levied against Arlington estate > > were not paid in person by Mrs. Lee. The property was offered for > > public sale Jan. 11, 1864, and was > > purchased by a tax commissioner for "government use, for war, > > military, charitable and educational > > purposes." > > > > Arlington National Cemetery was established by Brigadier General > > Montgomery C. Meigs, who commanded > > the garrison at Arlington House, appropriated the grounds June 15, > > 1864, for use as a military cemetery. His > > intention was to render the house uninhabitable should the Lee family > > ever attempt to return. A stone and > > masonry burial vault in the rose garden, 20 feet wide and 10 feet > > deep, and containing the remains of 1,800 > > Bull Run casualties, was among the first monuments to Union dead > > erected under Meigs' orders. Meigs > > himself was later buried within 100 yards of Arlington House with his > > wife, father and son; the final statement > > to his original order. > > > > Neither Robert E. Lee, nor his wife, as title holder, ever attempted > > to publicly recover control of Arlington > > House. They were buried at Washington University (later renamed > > Washington and Lee University) where Lee > > had served as president. The couple never returned to the home George > > Washington Parke Custis had built > > and treasured. > > > > After General Lee's death in 1870, George Washington Custis Lee > > brought an action for ejectment in the > > Circuit Court of Alexandria (today Arlington) County, Va. Custis Lee, > > as eldest son of Gen. and Mrs. Lee, > > claimed that the land had been illegally confiscated and that, > > according to his grandfather's will, he was the > > legal owner. In December 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5-4 > > decision, returned the property to Custis Lee, > > stating that it had been confiscated without due process. On March 3, > > 1883, the Congress purchased the > > property from Lee for $150,000. > > > > JoAnne > > Thank you for that info. Looks like crooks took it after all. But in due time > it was returned to the family (family member) who promptly sold it. Oh > well..... > > William

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: (no subject) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:23:09 -0500 From: bzbee <bzbee@bellsouth.net> To: JoAnne Silcox <bzbee@bellsouth.net> The property was confiscated by the federal government when property taxes levied against Arlington estate were not paid in person by Mrs. Lee. The property was offered for public sale Jan. 11, 1864, and was purchased by a tax commissioner for "government use, for war, military, charitable and educational purposes." Arlington National Cemetery was established by Brigadier General Montgomery C. Meigs, who commanded the garrison at Arlington House, appropriated the grounds June 15, 1864, for use as a military cemetery. His intention was to render the house uninhabitable should the Lee family ever attempt to return. A stone and masonry burial vault in the rose garden, 20 feet wide and 10 feet deep, and containing the remains of 1,800 Bull Run casualties, was among the first monuments to Union dead erected under Meigs' orders. Meigs himself was later buried within 100 yards of Arlington House with his wife, father and son; the final statement to his original order. Neither Robert E. Lee, nor his wife, as title holder, ever attempted to publicly recover control of Arlington House. They were buried at Washington University (later renamed Washington and Lee University) where Lee had served as president. The couple never returned to the home George Washington Parke Custis had built and treasured. After General Lee's death in 1870, George Washington Custis Lee brought an action for ejectment in the Circuit Court of Alexandria (today Arlington) County, Va. Custis Lee, as eldest son of Gen. and Mrs. Lee, claimed that the land had been illegally confiscated and that, according to his grandfather's will, he was the legal owner. In December 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, returned the property to Custis Lee, stating that it had been confiscated without due process. On March 3, 1883, the Congress purchased the property from Lee for $150,000.

I can't tell you the Union general responsible for the directive that made Arlington into a cemetery, but I do know I have heard/read that it was a delibert act done so the Lees would not be able to return to the property. Whether myth or fact, I've also heard some of the items removed (looted) from Arlington were inherited by the Lee (Custis ) family from George and Martha Washington. (A Custis was step-son of George Washington.) It was a long time before the Lee family ever received any payment for the confiscation of their land. I think some of the Washington heirlooms might have been restored to them. Lee is buried in the chapel at Washington & Lee University, Lexington, VA. The tomb is very impressive and there is a nice museum in the lower level. It is worth visiting if you have an interest in the Lees or his part in Civil War history. (The museum is primarily about the Lee family. ) Lee's horse Traveller is buried outside the chapel. When I was there in July, someone had left carrots on his grave.:)

Yes, Elaine...In fact, I believe General Lee's words went something like this..." I love my country but I love Virginia more".... >of the War, circumstances arose that caused a division of loyalties. Lee >was against slavery, but he loved his native Virginia and Virginians. I >suppose he decided to abandon a lofty, unseen ideal, ie. the United States, >to remain faithful to what for him was the here and now, his family, >friends _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hi William, If you want to know some of what happened in Gallatin TN. during a year of the civil war, read this diary of Alice Williamson. Gallatin was occupied by northern troops during this time. Laura <A HREF="http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/williamson/">Alice Williamson Diary - Duke University Special Collections Library</A>

Jerree, there is a book called "TRAVELLER" by the same author ? who wrote "WATERSHIP DOWN", am terrible with names a lot of the time. I think you would enjoy it. I think TRAVELLER died about three years after LEE from tetanus having stepped on a nail. I don't know what happened to Lucy Lee. I love the carrots. I think I would put some there too. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: <Katt1930@aol.com> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] Re: Arlington > Now Traveler's grave I would do......was Lucy Lee buried there also (Lee's > mare). > > I read that they both lived to ripe old ages. > > jerree >

William, Please look up in the dictionary: Revolution Civil There is a difference..... jerree

Elaine, I believe it was Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (a college professor from ME) who was in charge of the surrender....... and when Lee left the courthouse.....EVERYBODY (on both sides) stood at attention silently........one does not scream and yell while standing at attention. I am not sure what you mean about the `mentality of the military'........80-90% of the military at that time were former civilians with uniforms on. jerree

Did you all know that Arlington National Cemetery was Robert E Lee's wife's rose garden. She inherited it from her family. I think he is one of this country's most honorable men and suffered from angina all through the war. When he went to sleep at night he was always surprised when he woke up in the morning alive. His punishment of his men who violated gentlemenly behavior to civilians was swift and severe. Never could understand why he was refused a pardon..... I don't think it is ever too late......I know he did not own slaves.... I am not sure about his wife..... jerree