William, It may have been Congress who refused the pardon.... I don't know but I would think it unlikely it was Grant.......he had great admiration for Lee and I don't think that is what one `Pointer' would do to another one.....they had their `good ole boy club' too. jerree

William, WAR is not stealing......Texas and California was conquered lands. Do think war is a game of checkers???? jerree

Elaine, Also....it is strange that a horse can die of tetanus when it comes from their gut. jerree

Elaine, Thanks for the Traveller tip.......I will look for that book...... One of my biggest pet peeves is when Hollywood does not give `credit' to animals. They are careful though to tell you that none of them were killed during the making of the movie. Too bad it is not the other way around........ jerree PS Boy do I have a birthday list for my kids with all these books.......

Haven't seen all the messages in this string yet. But can't let this one pass - in relationship to the United States, Texas was NOT conquered land. Jill

Barbara- What can I do for you? Frances Osburn Montgomery County Maillist Owner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wyche" <genie@houston.rr.com> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] List Owner, Please > Please contact me at genie@houston.rr.com > > Thanks. >

I can't give you a timeline as I don't have the book handy. It's supposed to be the closes to true account of Mrs. Lee's life. It stated that servants were still living in the house, trying to keep it together for Mrs. Lee. None of the Lee's were permitted to go in the house. Their son,Curtis tried several times to pay the taxes and they were refused. The house was looted and Curtis only got a few things out. Most went to the government for display in Washington. Mrs. Lee's father had many things from Geo.Washinton,and they were taken also. Curtis, filed lawsuit after lawsuit and was finally given some money,but certainly not what he should have gotten. Mrs. Lee, went back to her home after the war but was unable to get out of carriage. Some of her servants were still there and came out to see her. It was a terrible thing to happen, but that's what war's are terrible. Mary (Damm Yankee)

Barbara, In the 1880 Census of Montgomery Co. there is one listing: McCarrol, Scot age 28*, Tennessee age 32, Washington age 2, Household 304. The * means that they were part of another household listing. In the 1880 Stewart Co listing there is one: McCarol, F. age 33 (f)*, Household 333 The * means the same thing here. Deanna O.

Please contact me at genie@houston.rr.com Thanks.

In a message dated 8/23/02 8:10:49 AM Central Daylight Time, roger@ERC.MsState.Edu writes: > Jerree Do you fear them? William

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Ahem, I thought Texas originally was part of Mexico??? Tell me more. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "MCArchives" <mcarchives@montgomerycountytn.org> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] RE: Question for true southern. . . > Haven't seen all the messages in this string yet. But can't let this one > pass - in relationship to the United States, Texas was NOT conquered > land. > > Jill >

Jerree, wellllllll, I thought it was tetanus. I do know he stepped on a nail and that was the cause of his death. At least that is the lore and maybe? fact. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: <Katt1930@aol.com> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] Re: Arlington > Elaine, > > Also....it is strange that a horse can die of tetanus when it comes from > their gut. > > jerree >

Hey William, are you historied out?? Haven't heard from you for a while. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: <BarnesWK@aol.com> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] question for true southerners > Hey Yall > > What were the cause/s of the Civil War? > > William >

Jerree, Now that I think about it, I seem to remember that is was JOHNSON. Where are you all from?? I live in mid- central IL on an 80 acre farm with my husband, four cats and three horses. Had quite a gulley washer this morning. I didn't know if the house would stand, or not. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: <BarnesWK@aol.com> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] question for true southerners > In a message dated 8/22/02 11:57:25 PM Central Daylight Time, > Katt1930@aol.com writes: > > > > PS... Lee asked for a pardon and was refused (don't remember which > > president). > > Lee died in 1870. > > > > Jerree > > There were just 2 presidents in this time frame 1865-1870, Grant and Johnson > (a Tennessean). Wonder which was more likely to refuse the pardon? > Actually, it really could have been Johnson for several possible reasons. > But I don't know either, sadly. > > William >

In a message dated 8/22/02 11:57:25 PM Central Daylight Time, Katt1930@aol.com writes: > PS... Lee asked for a pardon and was refused (don't remember which > president). > Lee died in 1870. > Jerree There were just 2 presidents in this time frame 1865-1870, Grant and Johnson (a Tennessean). Wonder which was more likely to refuse the pardon? Actually, it really could have been Johnson for several possible reasons. But I don't know either, sadly. William

In a message dated 8/22/02 9:21:16 PM Central Daylight Time, Gnat282@cs.com writes: > It was taken because of back taxes, that hadn't been paid. When Lee offered > to pay the government in Washington refused it. They wanted it for a > cemetery. > You really should read"The Lady of Arlington". > Mary Can you give us a timeline of events surrounding the above statements? BTW, with just this little knowledge, the governments refusal to accept payment because they wanted a cemetery is stealing it! thank you William

Now Traveler's grave I would do......was Lucy Lee buried there also (Lee's mare). I read that they both lived to ripe old ages. jerree

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