Thank you very much Katharan. I do appreciate your time and efforts. Barbara

Shirley, There are Sugg/Suggs in Stewart-TN in the 1850 census....It is on-line at the Stewart-TN site. jerree

Katharan you are so right. If everyone pitched in we would have an easier time of it. I live on Long Island, NY and have no access to TN records. It has been through the generosity of others that I have gotten as far as I have in my family search. To all the kind souls that have helped out a big Thank You. Barbara Bishop

Sandy, Thanks so much.... but I am unable to use microfilm, I have no reader. For 25+ years I have written to the archives/court houses and they have passed my letters along to local people (high school kids, retired school teachers, etc) who have contacted me with with a quote of the cost of copies, postage and their time to secure a particular document. I had a retired school teacher in Smith-TN send me a hand written extraction of every piece of paper in the court house about LANCASTER's and it took at least five years to get it all. Some she found in boxes that even they didn't know they had. She said that the court house was the only warm place in the winter time. I am sure she has `gone to her reward' by now. jerree

Katharine if you could look up Lucy Corbett in 1870 and 1880 I would greatly appreciate it. Barbara

Thanks alot. I appreciate it. Shirley in OK. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Katt1930@aol.com> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] genealogy and history > Shirley, > > There are Sugg/Suggs in Stewart-TN in the 1850 census....It is on-line at the > Stewart-TN site. > > jerree >

Well, I have got to jump in here...I am one of those people who live on the computer....I am handicapped and cannot get to all those wonderful research sites...It is my window on the world...and the exchange of genealogy information is what these lists are all about...I belong to about a dozen genealogy lists and get 1000 emails a day...I also do lookups in the 1850-60-80 census' for Tennessee..I have other research materials that I also share with people who ask.. I read each and every email to see if pertains to me or if I can help them in any way.... All this only takes about 4 hours a day and I still have time for my family and my other love, quilting......and I enjoyed the lively discussion of the Civil War and learned a few things about it that I did not know before...If William did nothing else, he got this list animated and I appreciate it.... So if anyone needs a lookup in the 1850, 1870 census for Tennessee or the 1880 for all states, just ask..I like to share information... Katharan > >Jerree, > I am sorry but I believe you have a different notion of what this list >if for than I do. My understanding of the various lists is for folks to >join who have similiar lines to share information they have, not to do >other's research for them. I am under the impression that the websites for >various states, counties, etc. is the place to post copies of wills, >censuses, probate records, Bible records, _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Hi. Jennie would have been b.1865 MS. m. a Carroll, MS. George W. Trotter, b 1846-51 Madrid Mo. his father would be James Trotter Sr. Walter Stanford Sugg/Suggs, b. 1877-78 MS. fa/b. AL, mo/b. MS. Sanford Suggs was alive until after 1882, as he fathered twins by wife 2. I just don't know where he was or when he died. I'm trying to lessen the gap if I can. You got the right John German/Jarman I would also like to lessen the gap and get a tenative death year on him. I don't believe he lived past 1900. So far nothing has surfaced. Thanks for your help, I'm amazed at how much people give of their time to help others in need. I too help when I can. Shirley in OK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "katharan plemmons" <katharan@hotmail.com> To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] genealogy and history > I know what you mean about brick walls....The 1880 census was a lifsaver for > me and my brick walls... > > No Sanford Suggs anywhere in the 1880...and no Cynthie > > I found all these Jennie's..If any look like yours, let me know and I can > look up the info.. > > SUGG, Jennie Wife <1837> F B NC NC > SUGS, Jennie Self <1845> F B AL AR > SUGGS, Jennie Wife <1845> F W KY KY > SUGGS, Jenny Self <1846> F W AL AL > SUGGS, Giney Wife <1846> F W NC NC > SUGGS, Jennie V. Wife <1849> F W NC NC > SUGG, Jennie Wife <1858> F B AL AL > SUGG, Jennie Wife <1858> F B NC NC > SUGGS, Ginnie Dau <1866> F MU TX TX > SUGG, Jennie Dau <1869> F B TN TN > SUGG, Jennie Dau <1874> F B KY KY > SUGGS, Jenny Dau <1877> F W CA CA > > Do you have a birth date on George?? there are too many to list here... > > Here are all the Walters..... > > SUGG, Walter Other <1862> M W AL AL > SUGGS, Walter G. Son <1868> M W NC CA > SUGG, Walter Son <1872> M B NC NC > SUGGS, Walter Other <1873> M W AL TN > SUGGS, Walter Son <1874> M W TN TN > SUGGS, Walter Nephew <1874> M W TN TN > SUGG, Walter Son <1876> M W IN IN > SUGG, Walter Son <1878> M W NC NC > SUGG, Walter Son <1878> M B NC NC > SUGG, Walter Son <1879> M B NC NC > SUGG, Walter Other <1880> M B MS MS > > No Daisy.... > > Here is John German.. > > Census Place: White Oak, Franklin, Arkansas > Source: FHL Film 1254044 National Archives Film T9-0044 Page 730D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > John GERMAN Self M M W 24 AR > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN > Molly GERMAN Wife F M W 25 AR > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN > > I think thid is Your George but he is not married..None of the Goerge > Trotters were married... > > Census Place: Lincoln, Douglas, Missouri > Source: FHL Film 1254685 National Archives Film T9-0685 Page 474B > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Caroline TROTTER Self F W W 53 MO > Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: NC > George W. TROTTER Son M S W 25 MO > Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: NC Mo: MO > Joseph S. TROTTER Son M S W 21 MO > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: MO > Charles O. TROTTER Son M S W 19 MO > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: MO > William H. TROTTER Son M S W 16 MO > Occ: Works On Farm Fa: NC Mo: MO > Ephraim F. TROTTER Son M S W 13 MO > Occ: Works On Farm Fa: NC Mo: MO > Almedia A. TROTTER Dau F S W 10 MO > Fa: NC Mo: MO > John T. TROTTER Son M S W 8 MO > Fa: NC Mo: MO > Eliza A. ELLIOTT Other F S W 9 MO > Fa: MO Mo: MO > James N. ELLIOTT Other M S W 7 MO > Fa: MO Mo: MO > > No Avery Shannon...... > > Just because they are not in the 1880 census, does not mean that they are > not somewhere....Indian territory would not have a census...and people who > did not trust government would avoid the census.... > > >I would like to take you up on your offer to do look ups. > >I have many brick walls in all of my lineages. All due to Cherokee & > >Choctaw blood. My ancestors didn't trust the US government, so they > >avoided > >any records of any kind and paid cash for everything. I need to place the > >following people SOMEWHERE in 1880. > > > >Sanford SUGG/SUGGS, b. 1846-48 Lawr. Co. AL. most likely a widower by 1880, > >but his wife was Cynthie Permillis [Mellie} They were in Itawamba Co. MS. > >but possibly ended up in Lee after the boundry changes. He had the > >following children by wife 1. Jennie, George W. Mattie, Walter S. & Daisy. > > > >John Clayton German/Jarman [various spellings] b. 1855-57 AR. probably > >Franklin Co. m. Mary Trotter, b. 1860-61 AR. Children: Infant girl, John > >Houston, James Wm, & Lenzy lee. > >Possible spellings for German-Germon, Jermon, Jerman, Jermyn, Jarman, > >Gearman, Gaurman, probably more. > > > >George W. [Sam] Trotter, b. 1850-51, Madrid, MO. m. Paaralee [Pauline] > >German/Jarman, in AAR. 1870, b. 1854-55. Children: Georgia [first born], m. > >Edward F. Allen, James/Jimmy, Reggie, all born in AR. > > > >John C. German & Paralee Trotter are siblings & George Trotter and Mary > >German are siblings. They stayed pretty close all their lives. > > > >Also after John C. German/Jarman died [unknown] Mary German m. 2. Avery > >Shannon. Need information on him > >also and I have absolutely nothing but his name. Looked for a marriage > >license where I knew Mary German was, but found nothing. > > > >Any help or suggestions most appreciated. > > > >Shirley in HOT, DRY, OKLAHOMA > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "katharan plemmons" <katharan@hotmail.com> > >To: <TNMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:44 AM > >Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] genealogy and history > > > > > > > Well, I have got to jump in here...I am one of those people who live on > >the > > > computer....I am handicapped and cannot get to all those wonderful > >research > > > sites...It is my window on the world...and the exchange of genealogy > > > information is what these lists are all about...I belong to about a > >dozen > > > genealogy lists and get 1000 emails a day...I also do lookups in the > > > 1850-60-80 census' for Tennessee..I have other research materials that I > > > also share with people who ask.. > > > I read each and every email to see if pertains to me or if I can help > >them > > > in any way.... > > > > > > All this only takes about 4 hours a day and I still have time for my > >family > > > and my other love, quilting......and I enjoyed the lively discussion of > >the > > > Civil War and learned a few things about it that I did not know > >before...If > > > William did nothing else, he got this list animated and I appreciate > >it.... > > > > > > So if anyone needs a lookup in the 1850, 1870 census for Tennessee or > >the > > > 1880 for all states, just ask..I like to share information... > > > > > > Katharan > > > > > > > > > > >Jerree, > > > > I am sorry but I believe you have a different notion of what this > >list > > > >if for than I do. My understanding of the various lists is for folks > >to > > > >join who have similiar lines to share information they have, not to do > > > >other's research for them. I am under the impression that the websites > >for > > > >various states, counties, etc. is the place to post copies of wills, > > > >censuses, probate records, Bible records, > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com >

Katharan, Well said...and Hip Hip Hurrah for WILLIAM...... I would appreciate some census look ups but what can I do in return? Any HEFLIN or any LANCASTER anywhere in TN in any census..... HARRISON's only in the Montgomery-TN area.... Thanks.... jerree

William is there any relation between the Bartee's and Bayliss family? I see that JW was born in KY as was Sarah (Bayliss) Corbett. Barbara

Barbara, Thanks, I will try the archives. Yes, I have all the book numbers and page numbers cause I know some places don't have names indexed. jerree

Katharan Boy, you asked for it. It doesn't take long. :) William

In a message dated 8/29/02 2:03:48 PM Central Daylight Time, Katt1930@aol.com writes: > Wills & Administrations > Deeds > Jerree There is a book that has Wills & Administrations indexed. What the TN State Library and Archives would need is the number associated with the specific document you want. The TSLA is in Nashville. Not sure where you could check that book. I have seen that book in a number of libraries but if you don't get out......Maybe the TSLA will do that part of a look up too. They expect to get paid for research, I do believe. But all you would have to do is ask. I don't have their number. Maybe check AOL white pages or yellow pages. William

Hi, I read your post, and appreciate it. If you do any lookups for Tennessee, I have a brick wall here. He could have died in the war, just don't know. ANDREW J. LUTTRELL b. 1841 in Tn, parents from Va & Tn. I found him after he left home in the Davidson County 1860 census. Stated he was 19 single and I believe a coppersmith. There are so many Andrews, it's hard to keep up but I'm sure the one in 1860 is he. Any help would be appreciated. Bette

Hello William. No I have been trying for 2 years to find out who James' parents are. No luck. I just know he was born abt. 1822 in TN. Married in Montgomery Co. in 1846. Thanks, Barbara

In a message dated 8/29/02 11:44:46 AM Central Daylight Time, katharan@hotmail.com writes: > Well, I have got to jump in here...I am one of those people who live on the > computer....I am handicapped and cannot get to all those wonderful research > sites...It is my window on the world...and the exchange of genealogy > information is what these lists are all about...I belong to about a dozen > genealogy lists and get 1000 emails a day...I also do lookups in the > 1850-60-80 census' for Tennessee..I have other research materials that I > also share with people who ask.. > I read each and every email to see if pertains to me or if I can help them > in any way.... > > All this only takes about 4 hours a day and I still have time for my family > and my other love, quilting......and I enjoyed the lively discussion of the > Civil War and learned a few things about it that I did not know before...If > William did nothing else, he got this list animated and I appreciate it.... > > So if anyone needs a lookup in the 1850, 1870 census for Tennessee or the > Katharan Thank you for giving me an encouraging word. I'll try to help out again. I won't be running out the causes for the Civil War thing again. Gee, in reality, I asked the opinion of those who had beliefs that differed with slavery. I was asked by a Yankee cousin for that answer. I did not know. I guess I had preferred that is be different from slavery and in some respects it was. But it did get lively!! :) You are right about the sharing of info. If all one was able to offer was a hard time to the list, then no that is not good. But you have at least some material at hand and are willing to do look ups. In fact, I have one for you now. Can you check the 1880 census for ........Well, I thought I had one but who escapes me at the moment. :) William

In a message dated 8/29/02 11:37:52 AM Central Daylight Time, sjellis@charter.net writes: > Don't believe the story about Jesse Bartee dying in 1826---it didn't happen! > He appeared in court in July, 1828--when he transfered his land to William > Ballard Bartee for an undisclosed sum of money. It was the same land he > bought on Barton's Creek from Montgomery Bell in 1825. > > Also, when Jesse transfered the land to William Ballard, it was witnessed by > Sandy This is great. I don't have George Harkleroad in my files, however. Who is he? And which H is this? Would it be Johan Heinrich 1746-1836, who died in Sullivan Co 1836 or Henry 1788-1869? After I wrote the dates for Johan Heinrich "Henry" I proclaimed, that cannot be right. Then I checked, our little soldier lived to be 90. Or at least to his 90th year. If you see the grandmother of Travis, please give her tell people on the list are thinking of her and her family. Also, I hope your aunt makes a full recovery. William

Hi Folks- In light of the type messages on Montgomery County Mail list this past week or so I believe it is time to discuss its purpose. This list was started about 4 or 5 yrs. ago to be used as a vehicle for family researchers to discuss matters concerning the county's genealogy and history. With this in mind I am asking that we remember what information we put on the maillist should be of interest to other members on the list. We do not need to get into private discussions, such as, Hi,- I'm here and thank you. These are better taken care of privately. We have a good list. Many folks have been able to further their research by discussing information on this list. And that is what I think this list is all about. I for one have learned a lot of information about the county and its people from folks on this list. Frances Osburn List Owner

In a message dated 8/29/02 11:09:37 AM Central Daylight Time, blbblb@fidnet.com writes: > Have you tried the Montgomery County Archives? Their address is on the > Montgomery Co. site. I don't know their policy about responding to mail, > but you could contact them before sending a request. I imagine you would > Not only that, but you probably would have to pay for a search. For example if you were looking for a death certificate, you would have to give them the name and date of death, and they would search up to 5 years before and after. This is from my area. Of course, the Montgomery County Archives may not charge??? William

In a message dated 8/29/02 7:52:01 AM Central Daylight Time, pbishop@optonline.net writes: > Corbett, J. N. 28, Sarah 21, Eugene 1, Lucy 45, J. W. Bartee 31, T Ky, > Mt-912-392. Barbara That is a big difference in age for Lucy and JW. However, my FTM files do not have a birthdate for Lucy. I would rather suspect that Lucy is mother of your JN. Have you already found parents for you JN? William