Thanks, and someday share them. Those times are gone forever. I hope this idea catches on. Jo... Shirley Gordon wrote: > Hi all, my father is 78 and I have been recording his stories of childhood > in Clarksville for the last few years. It is amazing the names and dates he > can remember. > > At 07:24 AM 2/7/01 -0800, you wrote: > >To Sandra Ellis: Did you ever think of recording your parents stories? My > >grandfather was a story teller with a wonderful memory and I always wish > >that I > >had just walked around with a recorder in my pocket. His stories are gone > >forever. Jo... > > > >Sandra Ellis wrote: > > > > > Linda, > > > > > > It's possible that both my parents could remember your parents. My parents > > > are both 71 and grew up in what was known as "South Clarksville". Daddy is > > > one of the "Sheppard kids" (grandma had 14) and they lived on Current > > Street > > > near Dr. Burt's "Home Infirmary". Mother was a Walker and her family lived > > > on Charlotte Street near the Petri Cigar Plant. Both of them have a memory > > > that is unbelievable! I love to mention something like that cigar store > > > Indian just to get either of them started talking. (Just like with Frank > > > Frost mentioned in another message.) One story always leads to another! > > > > > > Sandy Ellis > > Shirley Gordon > Administrative Secretary > 324 S. Kedzie Hall > Michigan State University > East Lansing, MI 48823-1032 > 517-353-3290 > Fax 517-432-2049

To Sandra Ellis: Did you ever think of recording your parents stories? My grandfather was a story teller with a wonderful memory and I always wish that I had just walked around with a recorder in my pocket. His stories are gone forever. Jo... Sandra Ellis wrote: > Linda, > > It's possible that both my parents could remember your parents. My parents > are both 71 and grew up in what was known as "South Clarksville". Daddy is > one of the "Sheppard kids" (grandma had 14) and they lived on Current Street > near Dr. Burt's "Home Infirmary". Mother was a Walker and her family lived > on Charlotte Street near the Petri Cigar Plant. Both of them have a memory > that is unbelievable! I love to mention something like that cigar store > Indian just to get either of them started talking. (Just like with Frank > Frost mentioned in another message.) One story always leads to another! > > Sandy Ellis

Linda, It's possible that both my parents could remember your parents. My parents are both 71 and grew up in what was known as "South Clarksville". Daddy is one of the "Sheppard kids" (grandma had 14) and they lived on Current Street near Dr. Burt's "Home Infirmary". Mother was a Walker and her family lived on Charlotte Street near the Petri Cigar Plant. Both of them have a memory that is unbelievable! I love to mention something like that cigar store Indian just to get either of them started talking. (Just like with Frank Frost mentioned in another message.) One story always leads to another! Sandy Ellis

Hi Sandy Ellis, About how old is your Dad? I'm thinking he may have known one or both my folks if they are close to the same age. My Dad is 86, Mom is 75. How 'bout anyone else out there? Linda Moss De Vita

Sandra: I thank you and your Dad for the information on the Indian. I have a letterhead from Fiederling's so got it out hoping it had the address, but no luck. It does have a picture of him and the dateline with 1940 and established 1861. So it was there a long time. I just remember that it was on the main street, a little narrow store and I think had a step up at the door. My Mom grew up in Clarksville, and we went there often as children, and some later. My uncle smoked a pipe and we went in there several times.Clarksville just has good memories for me, and am planning to come that way in the spring (soon, I hope!!) and spend some time in your library, and look for Mr. Indian in the Museum. You all do a wonderful job with the local history. Hope you are recovering nicely from the tornado damage. From the looks of it it will certainly take some time. Thanks again. Jo... Sandra Ellis wrote: > Jo, > > I asked my Dad about the cigar store and the Indian. He said that his > bother worked for Mrs. Fiederling when the store closed. From what he > remembers, Carneal Vaughn worked for the Fiederlings, too. Vending machines > were becoming popular and Carneal told several people that he was going to > buy up a bunch of the machines and sell cigarettes from them. Daddy said > that when Carneal bought the machines and stocked them with cigarettes, not > many people went to the cigar store so Mrs. Fiederling closed it. I kept > asking for a time period and the best I could get was between 1957 and 1960 > for the store closing (based on my uncle moving to Utah in 1957). > > Daddy said the Indian is still around. He read something about it and > thinks it may be at the local museum. > > This discussion with my Dad brought up lots of things because I asked for > the exact location of the cigar store! (Daddy loves it when I start wanting > him to get specific!) I think he moved everything downtown to a different > location but I don't know what time period he was refering to. He said that > the cigar store was about where Tommy Meeks law office is now. I said, > "near A.J. Clark's Jewelers and the Pullman?" He said that A.J. Clark was > across the street. I said that Pennebaker's and M. L Cross was across the > street. This went on for about an hour before my husband said that we'd > rearranged Clarksville more than the tornado did! (I guess this means that > we'll have to dig out the photos!) > > Sandy Ellis

Jo, I asked my Dad about the cigar store and the Indian. He said that his bother worked for Mrs. Fiederling when the store closed. From what he remembers, Carneal Vaughn worked for the Fiederlings, too. Vending machines were becoming popular and Carneal told several people that he was going to buy up a bunch of the machines and sell cigarettes from them. Daddy said that when Carneal bought the machines and stocked them with cigarettes, not many people went to the cigar store so Mrs. Fiederling closed it. I kept asking for a time period and the best I could get was between 1957 and 1960 for the store closing (based on my uncle moving to Utah in 1957). Daddy said the Indian is still around. He read something about it and thinks it may be at the local museum. This discussion with my Dad brought up lots of things because I asked for the exact location of the cigar store! (Daddy loves it when I start wanting him to get specific!) I think he moved everything downtown to a different location but I don't know what time period he was refering to. He said that the cigar store was about where Tommy Meeks law office is now. I said, "near A.J. Clark's Jewelers and the Pullman?" He said that A.J. Clark was across the street. I said that Pennebaker's and M. L Cross was across the street. This went on for about an hour before my husband said that we'd rearranged Clarksville more than the tornado did! (I guess this means that we'll have to dig out the photos!) Sandy Ellis

I received this news today. Don't know if all of this is on rootsweb, but here it is on Ancestry.com for our use for a short time. Thought it might be helpful. I did note that if you search a surname, the male name is there, but not the female in all cases. Didn't know if it was my system or theirs, so I sent them an email message questioning this. Deanna TENNESSEE MARRIAGES, 1851-1900 (Update adding Claiborne, Franklin, Humphreys, and Shelby counties) Becoming the 16th state in 1796, Tennessee was home to more than a million residents before the Civil War. This database is a collection of marriage records from the state between 1851 and 1900. This update adds marriages from Claiborne, Franklin, Humphreys, and Shelby counties to those of Dekalb, Giles, Henry, Lawrence, Lincoln, Montgomery, Roane, Scott, Sequatchie, Smith, Stewart, Sumner, Union, Warren, and Wilson counties. Researchers will find the names of both bride and groom, the marriage date, and the county where the ceremony was performed. Containing more than 132,000 names, this collection can be a tremendous aid to those seeking ancestors from Tennessee. Source Information: Dodd, Jordan R. "Tennessee Marriages, 1851-1900." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-. Original data: See the Extended Description at the URL below for original data sources listed by county. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4125.htm ____________________________________________________________________

Does anyone have a listing for Woodlawn or Greenwood Cems. in Clarksville...Looking for Clemons and Zeffie Keele Marshall's death dates......also her sister Inez Hudspath.... they are all buried in Montgomery Co....somewhere. Faye Keele

Liberty Cumberland Presbyterian Church http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/cemliberty.html "Griffy, Marilyn" wrote: > > Deana, > > There is a Liberty Church on Liberty Church Road off Dover Road. Go towards > Dover. At the red light, turn left next to Liberty Elementary School and > the church is about three quarters of a mile on the left. I believe that > the cemetery listing in on the Montgomery County page under Liberty > Presbyterian Church. Hope this helps. > > marilyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deanna Oklepek [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] Liberty Church > > Does anyone know where Liberty Church is? I have an ancestor who > is supposed to be buried there. His name is Philip W. Greenhill. > A deed for land he sold in 1854 indicated that the land was adjacent > to Liberty Church, Montgomery Co., District # 8. The family Bible says > that Philip is buried at Liberty Church. > Thanks! > Deanna

Deana, There is a Liberty Church on Liberty Church Road off Dover Road. Go towards Dover. At the red light, turn left next to Liberty Elementary School and the church is about three quarters of a mile on the left. I believe that the cemetery listing in on the Montgomery County page under Liberty Presbyterian Church. Hope this helps. marilyn -----Original Message----- From: Deanna Oklepek [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] Liberty Church Does anyone know where Liberty Church is? I have an ancestor who is supposed to be buried there. His name is Philip W. Greenhill. A deed for land he sold in 1854 indicated that the land was adjacent to Liberty Church, Montgomery Co., District # 8. The family Bible says that Philip is buried at Liberty Church. Thanks! Deanna

Hi Deanna Do you have parents of Philip Whitehead Greenhill? Jane Pegram? I have some limited info. This is not my line but an ancestor's sister, Lucy Milam married Daniel Pegram. William

Thanks for the info--is it going to be much like the old church? I hope so. Linda

Does anyone know where Liberty Church is? I have an ancestor who is supposed to be buried there. His name is Philip W. Greenhill. A deed for land he sold in 1854 indicated that the land was adjacent to Liberty Church, Montgomery Co., District # 8. The family Bible says that Philip is buried at Liberty Church. Thanks! Deanna

I too, was baptized and raised in Madison Street Methodist Church, and many years later joined the Trinity Episcopal Church. What a terrible shock to turn on the national news the morning after the tornado, and to see both churches had taken direct hits. The amount of damage done was simply unimaginable! I have many wonderful memories of both churches. Carolyn McFall > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 2/4/01 11:51:59 PM > Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] Fiederling > > In a message dated 2/4/01 3:37:48 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > . > > I was in Clarksville a year ago Oct and saw some of the tornado > > damage, which took out the Methodist Church that Mom & her sisters were > > baptized in. Very sad indeed. > > Linda--During Madison St United Methodist's service this morning the preacher > announced that the rebuilding of the church was at the half way mark. > > > > > > --- Carolyn McFall --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

In a message dated 2/4/01 3:37:48 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > . > I was in Clarksville a year ago Oct and saw some of the tornado > damage, which took out the Methodist Church that Mom & her sisters were > baptized in. Very sad indeed. Linda--During Madison St United Methodist's service this morning the preacher announced that the rebuilding of the church was at the half way mark. >

Thank you Linda, I look forward to receiving the pages. I tried to email another Purple & Gold to Frances, but I overloaded her mailbox and things bounced back. I guess they will go to her on a CD like I sent the first ones. Sandra [email protected] wrote: > Sandra, > I mailed those Purple & Gold pages from 1939. I hope you get them OK. > Mom is also in a group picture during lunch. I believe there is a pen mark, > she is the one with her head down, wearing a white blouse. > I was in Clarksville a year ago Oct and saw some of the tornado > damage, which took out the Methodist Church that Mom & her sisters were > baptized in. Very sad indeed. > Keep up the good work! > Linda (Moss) De Vita > > > > >

Sandra, I mailed those Purple & Gold pages from 1939. I hope you get them OK. Mom is also in a group picture during lunch. I believe there is a pen mark, she is the one with her head down, wearing a white blouse. I was in Clarksville a year ago Oct and saw some of the tornado damage, which took out the Methodist Church that Mom & her sisters were baptized in. Very sad indeed. Keep up the good work! Linda (Moss) De Vita

Hi Sandy, I have so many pictures of tornado damage that I had to make a separate CD. Frances and I decided people wouldn't be as interested in the tornado as other things so we didn't put that many pictures on the site. The Sheriffs Department put all of their pictures together and had one set made for everyone. I have scanned all of those pictures that my friend Doug Tackett loaned me plus some from the water department. Others have also contributed greatly. I recently put my tornado pictures on a CD to make more space on my computer and need to cut CD's for the library and archives. I bought 27 more Purple and Golds last weekend that I have to scan plus some I have never gotten to. I bounce around to keep the site interesting. The Geneva Suggs collection keeps me busy. Everything will never be on the web. I have scanned around 300 of her negatives and have tons more to go. I need to be three or more people. Sandra bzbee wrote: > Sandy: Thanks for your reply, and I do hope the cigar store Indian has a happy > home. > You are right about the sadness in Clarksville. Clarksville was always a > special place to me and I wanted to go back there so badly. Last summer my > daughter and I made a quick trip up that way and just couldn't figure out what > had happened to that beautiful little town. Just thought it was this crazy > "fad" of tearing down the old and putting up the "new". Didn't know anyone to > talk to (all my folks are in Riverside and Greenwood) so just came home > disappointed and sad. Got on your site and lo and behold! Found out about the > tornado. Made me feel a little better since we can't control the weather. But > a terrible thing to happen to a city. I understand why you don't like to go > downtown. Will try to think of something good to come out of it, but can't > imagine what it would be. Just that no lives were lost. And very happy that > Frank has survived his injury. We need all the folks like him, especially to > tell their stories. He sounds like a neat fellow, and I hope the best for him. > I really enjoy the Clarksville site, and go there often. Lots of work for you > all, but well worth it for us folks far away. Am planning a longer trip for the > spring so will get to see the "progress" there. Thanks again. Jo... > > Sandra Ellis wrote: > >> Jo, >> >> I do remember the cigar store Indian but don't know what happened to him. >> The store closed years ago. >> >> There isn't a lot left in downtown Clarksville anymore! What the tornado >> didn't take, construction did. The courthouse stands as a silent sentry >> over a gaping hole where the shops from McCellans to Dickson Sadler once >> stood along Franklin Street. The Second Street side of the courthouse >> became a parking lot years ago. The Third Street side was heavily damaged >> by the tornado and most of the buildings were hauled off in dump trucks---I >> think one or two may have survived. When the tornado hit, downtown >> Clarksville was made up primarily of law offices, government offices, and >> "night spots". (Maybe the Good Lord was trying to tell us something!) >> "Lower Frankin" (from 1st to 2nd Streets) is about all that remains as you >> would remember it. Joy's Jewelers is about the only "old" business left. >> I have photos that were taken in the early hours after the tornado. (Two of >> my brothers were among the first people allowed in the area.) There are >> also a few videos available that were made before and after that morning. >> And, don't forget to look at the website---Francis has some photos on it! I >> don't like to drive through downtown Clarksville anymore----it's not a >> pleasant site! >> >> Some accounts say that no one was seriously hurt during the tornado---they >> should talk to Frank Frost. Frank lived in the Royal York building and >> heard the storm. He got up to see what was going on---he said he was being >> "nosey". As he opened his door, a window shattered and a piece of glass cut >> his carotid artery. He doesn't remember anything after opening the >> door---until several days later when he found himself in the hospital! He >> must have grabbed a pillow to try to stop the bleeding. When Frank's son >> heard about the tornado, he went to check on his dad. He found Frank with >> the pillow pressed to the neck wound and soaked with blood. (He almost bled >> to death!) This past year, Frank moved back to the Royal York----but they >> won't let him move back upstairs to his old room! By the way, Frank was >> born in 1911 and ran a business in downtown Clarksville--he was a welder. >> His mind is "sharp" and I love talking to him! (I usually just get him >> started---then, enjoy!) >> >> My brother is also on this list and maybe he would share a story our >> grandfather told him about the angels that used to sit at the 4 corners of >> the courthouse---how about it, Stan? >> >> Sandy Ellis >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: bzbee <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 5:06 PM >> Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] Fiederling >> >> Would anyone on this list know anything about "Frank Fiederling, Cigars >> & Tobacco" in Clarksville? I remember going there probably in 40's and >> 50's where they had a real wooden cigar store Indian out in the front. >> Just wonder if the business is still there. Thanks. Jo... >

Sandy: Thanks for your reply, and I do hope the cigar store Indian has a happy home. You are right about the sadness in Clarksville. Clarksville was always a special place to me and I wanted to go back there so badly. Last summer my daughter and I made a quick trip up that way and just couldn't figure out what had happened to that beautiful little town. Just thought it was this crazy "fad" of tearing down the old and putting up the "new". Didn't know anyone to talk to (all my folks are in Riverside and Greenwood) so just came home disappointed and sad. Got on your site and lo and behold! Found out about the tornado. Made me feel a little better since we can't control the weather. But a terrible thing to happen to a city. I understand why you don't like to go downtown. Will try to think of something good to come out of it, but can't imagine what it would be. Just that no lives were lost. And very happy that Frank has survived his injury. We need all the folks like him, especially to tell their stories. He sounds like a neat fellow, and I hope the best for him. I really enjoy the Clarksville site, and go there often. Lots of work for you all, but well worth it for us folks far away. Am planning a longer trip for the spring so will get to see the "progress" there. Thanks again. Jo... Sandra Ellis wrote: > Jo, > > I do remember the cigar store Indian but don't know what happened to him. > The store closed years ago. > > There isn't a lot left in downtown Clarksville anymore! What the tornado > didn't take, construction did. The courthouse stands as a silent sentry > over a gaping hole where the shops from McCellans to Dickson Sadler once > stood along Franklin Street. The Second Street side of the courthouse > became a parking lot years ago. The Third Street side was heavily damaged > by the tornado and most of the buildings were hauled off in dump trucks---I > think one or two may have survived. When the tornado hit, downtown > Clarksville was made up primarily of law offices, government offices, and > "night spots". (Maybe the Good Lord was trying to tell us something!) > "Lower Frankin" (from 1st to 2nd Streets) is about all that remains as you > would remember it. Joy's Jewelers is about the only "old" business left. > I have photos that were taken in the early hours after the tornado. (Two of > my brothers were among the first people allowed in the area.) There are > also a few videos available that were made before and after that morning. > And, don't forget to look at the website---Francis has some photos on it! I > don't like to drive through downtown Clarksville anymore----it's not a > pleasant site! > > Some accounts say that no one was seriously hurt during the tornado---they > should talk to Frank Frost. Frank lived in the Royal York building and > heard the storm. He got up to see what was going on---he said he was being > "nosey". As he opened his door, a window shattered and a piece of glass cut > his carotid artery. He doesn't remember anything after opening the > door---until several days later when he found himself in the hospital! He > must have grabbed a pillow to try to stop the bleeding. When Frank's son > heard about the tornado, he went to check on his dad. He found Frank with > the pillow pressed to the neck wound and soaked with blood. (He almost bled > to death!) This past year, Frank moved back to the Royal York----but they > won't let him move back upstairs to his old room! By the way, Frank was > born in 1911 and ran a business in downtown Clarksville--he was a welder. > His mind is "sharp" and I love talking to him! (I usually just get him > started---then, enjoy!) > > My brother is also on this list and maybe he would share a story our > grandfather told him about the angels that used to sit at the 4 corners of > the courthouse---how about it, Stan? > > Sandy Ellis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bzbee <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 5:06 PM > Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] Fiederling > > Would anyone on this list know anything about "Frank Fiederling, Cigars > & Tobacco" in Clarksville? I remember going there probably in 40's and > 50's where they had a real wooden cigar store Indian out in the front. > Just wonder if the business is still there. Thanks. Jo...

Jo, I do remember the cigar store Indian but don't know what happened to him. The store closed years ago. There isn't a lot left in downtown Clarksville anymore! What the tornado didn't take, construction did. The courthouse stands as a silent sentry over a gaping hole where the shops from McCellans to Dickson Sadler once stood along Franklin Street. The Second Street side of the courthouse became a parking lot years ago. The Third Street side was heavily damaged by the tornado and most of the buildings were hauled off in dump trucks---I think one or two may have survived. When the tornado hit, downtown Clarksville was made up primarily of law offices, government offices, and "night spots". (Maybe the Good Lord was trying to tell us something!) "Lower Frankin" (from 1st to 2nd Streets) is about all that remains as you would remember it. Joy's Jewelers is about the only "old" business left. I have photos that were taken in the early hours after the tornado. (Two of my brothers were among the first people allowed in the area.) There are also a few videos available that were made before and after that morning. And, don't forget to look at the website---Francis has some photos on it! I don't like to drive through downtown Clarksville anymore----it's not a pleasant site! Some accounts say that no one was seriously hurt during the tornado---they should talk to Frank Frost. Frank lived in the Royal York building and heard the storm. He got up to see what was going on---he said he was being "nosey". As he opened his door, a window shattered and a piece of glass cut his carotid artery. He doesn't remember anything after opening the door---until several days later when he found himself in the hospital! He must have grabbed a pillow to try to stop the bleeding. When Frank's son heard about the tornado, he went to check on his dad. He found Frank with the pillow pressed to the neck wound and soaked with blood. (He almost bled to death!) This past year, Frank moved back to the Royal York----but they won't let him move back upstairs to his old room! By the way, Frank was born in 1911 and ran a business in downtown Clarksville--he was a welder. His mind is "sharp" and I love talking to him! (I usually just get him started---then, enjoy!) My brother is also on this list and maybe he would share a story our grandfather told him about the angels that used to sit at the 4 corners of the courthouse---how about it, Stan? Sandy Ellis ----- Original Message ----- From: bzbee <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: [TNMONTGO-L] Fiederling Would anyone on this list know anything about "Frank Fiederling, Cigars & Tobacco" in Clarksville? I remember going there probably in 40's and 50's where they had a real wooden cigar store Indian out in the front. Just wonder if the business is still there. Thanks. Jo...