Can you please send me the address for Jill hastings at the Montgomery Archives? Thank you, Debbie

What's new in Montgomery County. Drop by our pages at http://www.tngennet.org/montgomery and take a look. Queries: Updated Surnames: Updated Purple and Gold- 1956 Senior Edition- Thanks to Eleanor Williams and Sandra Stacey NEW SECTION- A New Collection!! Over 100 pictures from the Collection of Estelle Walker, Clarksville county school teacher for 41 years. Donated by Frances Cutsinger. INFO If you are visiting Clarksville and doing family research, don't forget about our wonderful resources- Jill Hastings-Johnson and the Montgomery County Archives. It is open for business Monday thru Friday and is a "MUST SEE" if you are in town. Many of the materials found in the Swain Collection concern folks living in the surrounding counties of Dickson, Cheatham, Stewart, Houston and Humphreys. If you have families in these counties you might want to look at the Swain Collection. Be sure to check out Tim's Genealogy Pages at the Clarksville-Montgomery Public Library site. Tim has provided many links to useful pages containing materials for Montgomery and other counties in Tennessee. Tim also has additional cemetery listing on the library pages. Check them out! Also, the Leaf-Chronicle list daily obits on their pages at http://www.leafchronicle.com Thanks to everyone who is helping us make the Montgomery County pages interesting and informative for fellow researchers with Montgomery County connections. If you have information that you feel would be of interest to others, email me and let's talk. Frances April 29, 2001

Our e-mail address is [email protected] The mailing address is Montgomery County Archives, P. O. Box 323, Clarksville, TN 37041-0323 and the phone is 931.553.5159. For research requests, we will search a ten year period in one record group, for one surname for a $5.00 search fee. Please mail your check to the address above and e-mail the request so we can be working on it. l Montgomery County Archives

Hi Jo, Thanks for the leads. I have never heard of Rooks in Gibson and Crockett Co.s so that will give me more places to look. The ones in Hardeman, Warren, and Grainger apparently are not related to mine---that we have been able to find, so far. My Rooks came from VA/NC and those Rooks came from IN/PA, etc. However, surely there is a connection somewhere. I really appreciate you taking the time to send this. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "bzbee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] Rook/Lyons In the census of Hardeman, Gibson and Crockett counties there are probably 30 or 40 Rooks and Lyons, and Lyons in Crockett & Hancock Cos. Not my line so can't help other than to tell you to check all of Tenn. Jo...... theshadow wrote: > Hi Folks, > My brick wall is the wife of John Rook (died 1824 in either Mont. or Dickson > Co.). I have read in at least two books that her name was Nancy Lyons. > The following information is from "The Primal Families of Yellow Creek Valley" by > William J. Nesbitt, repub. date 1999. > "John Rook Sr and wife, Nancy Lyon Rook, with their family, settled on the south > side of Cumberland River at what is now known as the Seven Mile Ferry, then the Rook > Ferry, in Montgomery County Tennessee about 1800 according to the Montgomery County > records." > A second book was "The Harvey Connection" by Mary Lou Dawson which appears to be > merely a repeat of the same information. I have also found two family histories in > the vertical files of Montgomery Co. which give the same information. > However, there are several Rook researchers and myself who believe that John's > wife was not Nancy Lyons but Susanna "Sucky" Moody Rook. This John's wife was > referred to as Susanna in his will and also in a probate record (D:435) citing a > Division of Property of the Estate of John Rook, 1824. She is also named in her > father's will of 1778 in Northampton, NC "...Sucky Rook wife of John Rook." The > dates do not correspond to this Sucky being the wife of John's father so she had to > have been John's wife and who moved to TN with him around 1800 since she is still > named in his 1824 will. > John's father, who was also named John, named his wife, Sarah, in his will in > Northampton, Co., NC and she is named as head of household on the 1790 NC Census > Heads of Families at the First Census of the US. > There is not a Nancy Lyons among them. We Rook researchers are beginning to > believe that perhaps Nancy Lyons was Susanna's mother's maiden name. There was > obviously a Lyon in the family somewhere as there are too many Rook decendants with > the name of Lyons as part of their name. Is it possible that John was married to > Nancy Lyons prior to marrying Susanna? If so, they would have been married prior to > 1778 when Joseph Moody named Sucky in his will and Nancy had to have died some 22 > years before John and Susanna went to TN. If that is true then where did folks in > Mont. Co. get the name Nancy Lyons? > We believe that there was unintentional misinformation somewhere way back and it > has been perpetuated since then in several family history books. As we all know, we > are told tales of our ancestor's childhood and their lives as they grew up and > sometimes this information is not entirely accurate. As an example of this, I was > stymied for 30 years about who my gggrandmother was simply because my ggrandfather > listed his wife's mother's name as "Miz Rook" on his wife's death certificate. I > could not find a Rook anywhere who had married a man by the name of my gggrandfather: > Slocumb. The reason? My gggrandmother had been widowed when she married my > gggrandfather Slocumb so her name on the marriage certificate was Trotter! I finally > found her about 3 years ago! She was the granddaughter of John and Susanna Rook of > Mont. Co. > Is there anyone on this list or the Montgomery list who has any document which > names a Nancy Lyons---especially one connected to John Rook? I would certainly > entertain any idea anyone might have as to finding a solution to this eternal > problem----and, I sure don't want to wait another 30 years before solving it!<G> > Jean Hancock in TX

In the census of Hardeman, Gibson and Crockett counties there are probably 30 or 40 Rooks and Lyons, and Lyons in Crockett & Hancock Cos. Not my line so can't help other than to tell you to check all of Tenn. Jo...... theshadow wrote: > Hi Folks, > My brick wall is the wife of John Rook (died 1824 in either Mont. or Dickson > Co.). I have read in at least two books that her name was Nancy Lyons. > The following information is from "The Primal Families of Yellow Creek Valley" by > William J. Nesbitt, repub. date 1999. > "John Rook Sr and wife, Nancy Lyon Rook, with their family, settled on the south > side of Cumberland River at what is now known as the Seven Mile Ferry, then the Rook > Ferry, in Montgomery County Tennessee about 1800 according to the Montgomery County > records." > A second book was "The Harvey Connection" by Mary Lou Dawson which appears to be > merely a repeat of the same information. I have also found two family histories in > the vertical files of Montgomery Co. which give the same information. > However, there are several Rook researchers and myself who believe that John's > wife was not Nancy Lyons but Susanna "Sucky" Moody Rook. This John's wife was > referred to as Susanna in his will and also in a probate record (D:435) citing a > Division of Property of the Estate of John Rook, 1824. She is also named in her > father's will of 1778 in Northampton, NC "...Sucky Rook wife of John Rook." The > dates do not correspond to this Sucky being the wife of John's father so she had to > have been John's wife and who moved to TN with him around 1800 since she is still > named in his 1824 will. > John's father, who was also named John, named his wife, Sarah, in his will in > Northampton, Co., NC and she is named as head of household on the 1790 NC Census > Heads of Families at the First Census of the US. > There is not a Nancy Lyons among them. We Rook researchers are beginning to > believe that perhaps Nancy Lyons was Susanna's mother's maiden name. There was > obviously a Lyon in the family somewhere as there are too many Rook decendants with > the name of Lyons as part of their name. Is it possible that John was married to > Nancy Lyons prior to marrying Susanna? If so, they would have been married prior to > 1778 when Joseph Moody named Sucky in his will and Nancy had to have died some 22 > years before John and Susanna went to TN. If that is true then where did folks in > Mont. Co. get the name Nancy Lyons? > We believe that there was unintentional misinformation somewhere way back and it > has been perpetuated since then in several family history books. As we all know, we > are told tales of our ancestor's childhood and their lives as they grew up and > sometimes this information is not entirely accurate. As an example of this, I was > stymied for 30 years about who my gggrandmother was simply because my ggrandfather > listed his wife's mother's name as "Miz Rook" on his wife's death certificate. I > could not find a Rook anywhere who had married a man by the name of my gggrandfather: > Slocumb. The reason? My gggrandmother had been widowed when she married my > gggrandfather Slocumb so her name on the marriage certificate was Trotter! I finally > found her about 3 years ago! She was the granddaughter of John and Susanna Rook of > Mont. Co. > Is there anyone on this list or the Montgomery list who has any document which > names a Nancy Lyons---especially one connected to John Rook? I would certainly > entertain any idea anyone might have as to finding a solution to this eternal > problem----and, I sure don't want to wait another 30 years before solving it!<G> > Jean Hancock in TX

How much is the Book Connie

To the List: You should be aware of an important new Tennessee research book which will be available in June. "The Reconstructed 1810 Census of Tennessee" by Charles Sherrill contains 33,000 long-lost records from tax lists, court minutes, church records, deeds, wills and other sources. Many records from Montgomery County and the surrounding area are included. The original Tennessee census for 1810 was destroyed with other records in Washington, D.C., long before microfilm was invented. With it went many valuable clues to Tennessee history and genealogy from a period when the state was filled with families seeking cheap land and migrating westward. In order to reconstruct the lost census, the author worked with a wide variety of records from 1809 to 1811 in an effort to track every adult male in Tennessee. In addition many entries describing women, children, free blacks and slaves were also located. The author is a well-known Tennessee genealogist, librarian and lecturer. This is the most ambitious undertaking of his 20-year career. His other recent works include "Tennessee Convicts" and "Tennesseans in Court." This 600-page book should be in every Tennessee research collection. For information on ordering a copy for yourself or your local library, e-mail Chuck Sherrill at [email protected] Order in April to receive a $10 pre-pub discount.

Hi Folks, My brick wall is the wife of John Rook (died 1824 in either Mont. or Dickson Co.). I have read in at least two books that her name was Nancy Lyons. The following information is from "The Primal Families of Yellow Creek Valley" by William J. Nesbitt, repub. date 1999. "John Rook Sr and wife, Nancy Lyon Rook, with their family, settled on the south side of Cumberland River at what is now known as the Seven Mile Ferry, then the Rook Ferry, in Montgomery County Tennessee about 1800 according to the Montgomery County records." A second book was "The Harvey Connection" by Mary Lou Dawson which appears to be merely a repeat of the same information. I have also found two family histories in the vertical files of Montgomery Co. which give the same information. However, there are several Rook researchers and myself who believe that John's wife was not Nancy Lyons but Susanna "Sucky" Moody Rook. This John's wife was referred to as Susanna in his will and also in a probate record (D:435) citing a Division of Property of the Estate of John Rook, 1824. She is also named in her father's will of 1778 in Northampton, NC "...Sucky Rook wife of John Rook." The dates do not correspond to this Sucky being the wife of John's father so she had to have been John's wife and who moved to TN with him around 1800 since she is still named in his 1824 will. John's father, who was also named John, named his wife, Sarah, in his will in Northampton, Co., NC and she is named as head of household on the 1790 NC Census Heads of Families at the First Census of the US. There is not a Nancy Lyons among them. We Rook researchers are beginning to believe that perhaps Nancy Lyons was Susanna's mother's maiden name. There was obviously a Lyon in the family somewhere as there are too many Rook decendants with the name of Lyons as part of their name. Is it possible that John was married to Nancy Lyons prior to marrying Susanna? If so, they would have been married prior to 1778 when Joseph Moody named Sucky in his will and Nancy had to have died some 22 years before John and Susanna went to TN. If that is true then where did folks in Mont. Co. get the name Nancy Lyons? We believe that there was unintentional misinformation somewhere way back and it has been perpetuated since then in several family history books. As we all know, we are told tales of our ancestor's childhood and their lives as they grew up and sometimes this information is not entirely accurate. As an example of this, I was stymied for 30 years about who my gggrandmother was simply because my ggrandfather listed his wife's mother's name as "Miz Rook" on his wife's death certificate. I could not find a Rook anywhere who had married a man by the name of my gggrandfather: Slocumb. The reason? My gggrandmother had been widowed when she married my gggrandfather Slocumb so her name on the marriage certificate was Trotter! I finally found her about 3 years ago! She was the granddaughter of John and Susanna Rook of Mont. Co. Is there anyone on this list or the Montgomery list who has any document which names a Nancy Lyons---especially one connected to John Rook? I would certainly entertain any idea anyone might have as to finding a solution to this eternal problem----and, I sure don't want to wait another 30 years before solving it!<G> Jean Hancock in TX

I have just received about 25 of "The Montgomery County Genealogical Journal" by Mrs. Alley and for anyone searching in the area they are wonderful! So many of the names that are becoming familiar to me are listed many times with worlds of information. Thanks to Sherri I ordered them thru abebooks.com and have one on the way by Mrs. Beach. Very interesting and thanks, Sherri. JSA Sherri Nichols wrote: > Another resource for finding out of print books is abebooks.com. This is a > site where independent booksellers can publish their inventory. You search > the site for the book you want, and depending on the bookseller, can buy > either directly from the bookseller or through abebooks. Abebooks.com > lists three copies of "Along the Warioto" right now. > > Sherri Nichols

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Hello Sandra. Thank you for you post. I didn't realize how big Montgomery Co. was. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] Towns in Montgomery Co. Barbara, Clarksville is the county seat but there are several small communities. If you look at the Montgomery Co., Gen Web site, I believe there are many listed. www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/ What community are you looking for? Sandy Ellis

What towns are in Montgomery Co. TN? Barbara

Barbara, Clarksville is the county seat but there are several small communities. If you look at the Montgomery Co., Gen Web site, I believe there are many listed. www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/ What community are you looking for? Sandy Ellis

Jan--In my mothers box of old pictures I discovered a thin cardboard picture. It measures about 2" x 2". The left side is serated, like it might have been a raffle drawing coupon. The bottom is printed with Gracey Avenue Baptist Church Rev. George B. Hyler, Pastor Clarksville, Tenn. Don't know when it was printed. Anyone interested in this? Hyler in your family? Is the Church still there? Helen

According to today's Leaf Chronicle at www.leafchronicle.com "The two-room stone house long believed to have been part of the late 1700s Sevier Station is actually a kitchen building from the T.W. Atkinson household built roughly 30 years later. No evidence could be found to support that the small structure belonged to one of Clarksville's first settlers." It structure is located on land that once belonged to Valentine Sevier. Sandy Ellis

I have recently uncovered a headstone here on federal property (Fort Campbell, Kentucky) with " Harkes Jones born 1859" inscribed on it. It is heavily damaged with no date of death left to read. Does anyone have any possible family connection with this name? I know Jones is common, but the name Harkes is quite unusual. It was found in the Meriwether family cemetery. Thanks, Hope Archaeological Technician Hope Corizzo [email protected]

BZBEE- I live in the Orlando area and travel often to th Palm Beach area on business. I have "Cabins to Castles" by Eleanor S. Williams; "Homes & Happenings" by Eleanor Williams, photos by Ursula Beach; and "Nineteenth Century Heritage, Clarksvile, Tennessee by William & Beach. If you are close to Orlando maybe we could get together with the books. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: bzbee <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [TNMONTGO-L] Ursula Beach > Sandra: Thanks for the information. Will follow up on the library. Since I am > in Florida will go local, but am planning a trip sometime in May so will also > make use of the library there. Have a good week-end. And thanks again. Jo.... > > Sandra Ellis wrote: > > > I'm not sure if the magazine is still in publication. > > > > The books are at the Clarksville-Montgomery Co. Public Library. (During > > that time period, Mrs. Alley also published the "Montgomery Co. Genealogical > > Journals" that you might be interested in.) They were available for > > purchase from several book sellers and may be available on interlibrary > > loan. (I don't know where you live or if you have access to the local > > library.) > > > > I work for Mrs. Ursula's step-grandson and several months ago I asked about > > some of her books. He asked if I needed copies of them so the family might > > have some available. (I didn't want copies because I already have many of > > them-----I am interested in obtaining permission to put them on the > > internet.) > > > > By the way----for anyone that is in the Clarksville area or will be here on > > May 5th: > > Friends of the Clarksville-Montgomery County Public Library is having a > > genealogy workshop that day. Details are on the library's web site at > > www.clarksville.org The people conducting the workshops include Irene > > Griffey, David Smith, Jill Hastings-Johnson, Eleanor Williams, Gregory > > Poole, Timothy Pulley, Robert (Bob) Lewis, and Cleo Hogan-----a pretty > > impressive bunch of people if you want information about local history or > > genealogy. There will also be bookseller tables available---maybe Mrs. > > Ursula's books will be among them. (I'm not associated with any of these > > people in any way. I just noticed the announcements in various places but > > have not seen it mentioned on the list.) > > > > Sandy Ellis >

Thanks to Sherri and Moonwish: The abebooks.com site is wonderful. Ordered two of the Beach books from Elders in Nashville today. They have everything and you can order directly from the seller. Thanks again. Jo.... Sherri Nichols wrote: > Another resource for finding out of print books is abebooks.com. This is a > site where independent booksellers can publish their inventory. You search > the site for the book you want, and depending on the bookseller, can buy > either directly from the bookseller or through abebooks. Abebooks.com > lists three copies of "Along the Warioto" right now. > > Sherri Nichols

Thanks, Moonwish! Just ordered from Elders in Nashville. Now I can't wait to get them. Jo.... [email protected] wrote: > Check the following sites -- when I looked this morning there were several > Ursula Beach books available <A > HREF="http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=sl&ac=sl&qi=jJgMJAcQ0PUJcgZr8qz,ayN > > jJgBFScz,:352:492">BookFinder.com: Search Results > </A><A HREF="http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BookSearch">Search Results</A> > Good luck! > Cary

Check the following sites -- when I looked this morning there were several Ursula Beach books available <A HREF="http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=sl&ac=sl&qi=jJgMJAcQ0PUJcgZr8qz,ayN jJgBFScz,:352:492">BookFinder.com: Search Results </A><A HREF="http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BookSearch">Search Results</A> Good luck! Cary