K. Dell Thank you for your input. You didn't butt in, the list is for everyone to put their genealogical data out and see what others have to say. If Johnita or myself didn't want everyone to see it, we would communicate to our private address. Later census, starting in 1900 take that into account by listing the relationship to the head of household. So many times records are not available or legible and all we can do is examine what facts we have and work from them. Your statement supports my position that you cannot go by what has been transcribed as solid fact. Anyone not knowing the family would not have known that Tennessee Barnett and Tennessee Hughes were in fact the same person. Find it in a transcribed document then look at the orginal document or microfilm. Transcribed censeses are useful to speed the location of the data in the actual film. In a transcribed census, 1910 Stepehns County, Oklahoma I pointed out mistakes to a transcriber that were in my immediate family. My father and uncles who I had lived with for many years, names were not correct as well as the ages. I showed her in the census film where it was correct, and was informed that she didn't interput it that way. I blew my stack and told her to read, not interput. That is why I like to look at the orginal documents. Any mistake is mine not someone who dosen't know the family I am working on. I would like to come to Tennessee and see the actual marriage records or at least the microfilm. In the case of family 1250 in the 1850 census, the entry appears to be Brown. After close examination and comparisons of other examples of his handwriting, reverse imiaging and some other known facts, I decided that this could be William Brewer. What are the chances of having two Lucy's married to a William, and two Nancy's as the daughter of a William and both Lucy's come from N.C. and both Nancy' are the same age, 3 YOA. As well as living in the same civil district. Those are mighty big "odds". I'll bet I have wore out a hundred shovels digging roots. John Wayne Brewer Killeen, Bell County, Texas k dell wrote: > Sorry to butt in but, your surmises of the surname may not be correct. I have > Tennessee Hughes b. 1867, dau. of William C. Hughes and Susan Barnett (nee > Davis). Both were widowed during the war. Many documents give her name as > Tennessee Barnett. I don't know why this happened, but it did. > > The younger siblings always used Hughes. Tennessee looked like WC too. > > As to parentage, in the cases of children born out of wedlock, what I have mostly > seen during that era (at least in Hardn Co.) is a simple incorporation into the > g-parents family and reporting that family's surname whether living with the > mother's or with the father's family. Who the other parent was is just a matter > of family story & speculation. > > k > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young married > > couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. > > > > What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long > > lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and could > > not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found her > > ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina > > Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in 1870, > > and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to > > think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the surname > > Barnes. > > > > Johnita > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > Johnita, > > > > > > The census for 1860 shows; > > > > > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > > > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > > > Penelope Barns 17 > > > John W. 3/12 > > > > > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. Jackson. The > > > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > > > > > John Wayne. > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 > > > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > > > > > 1850 Census > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > District 8, household 1279 > > > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > > > John/10/M/W/TN > > > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > > > > > 1860 Census > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > District 8, household 1417 > > > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks > > > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > > > John B. 20 TN > > > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > > > James P. 10 TN > > > > > William 6 TN > > > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > > > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne