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    1. Re: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ?
    2. Julie Preston
    3. Gene, If the Muster Rolls for Jesse Martin Odom's company have survived and the records of the U.S. Army for prisoners who died at Rock Island, both may show the same date of death and you can get them to change the marker. Regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Wade To: TNMCNAIR-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ? Can anyone out there tell me if there is a J.M. MARTIN? The J.M. Martin I am seeking would have been a Confederate soldier in Company B, 27th Tennessee Infantry who died at the Rock Island prison camp 2/14/1864 and is in grave 490. J. M. Martin is listed in the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors system but the only record the federal archives has is a single record stating that there is a tombstone at the Rock Island Camp with that name on it. I have a suspicion that because of a recording or transcription error either at the camp in 1864 or after about 1905 when the tombstones were made that the wrong name of J. M. MARTIN was inscribed instead of the correct name of Jesse Martin ODOM. It's not too hard to realize how the name could have been recorded incorrectly by someone in a hurry. The Jesse Martin ODOM I am seeking was indeed with Co B, 27th Tennessee Infantry (note same unit as shown for J.M. Martin) and according to federal archives records was captured at Missionary Ridge and transported to Rock Island on Dec 8, 1863. Then Jesse Martin ODOM seems to have disappeared after a Dec 25, 1863 Rock Island prisoner roll, never to return to his wife and seven children. Strange request I know but I need to determine if there really was a J. M. Martin before I can really assume and hope that this relative Jesse Martin ODOM received a decent burial instead of being thrown in the river or something. Is J.M. MARTIN really my Jesse Martin ODOM.? Did the Rock Island camp in error "manufacture" a non-existent person and bury a real Confederate in a mismarked grave? Any help or suggestions are appreciated. Gene Wade Loganville, GA a ==== TNMCNAIR Mailing List ==== McNairy County Tennessee http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcnair/index.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

    03/30/2006 11:50:11
    1. Re: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ?
    2. Gene Wade
    3. Julie, Thanks for the reply. I have done my best to search for rosters but can find only bits and pieces and none I have found show either a J.M. Martin or a Jesse Martin Odom. And you can be sure that if I can establish that there really is an error on the marker that a request to replace the marker will be made. Every Confederate soldier deserves a marker but unfortunately so many of them simply disappeared in prison camps. Some northern camps properly buried and marked graves, some bodies were simply thrown into lakes and rivers and it is known that many northern medical schools were well supplied with "cadavers" for their medical "research". The South had its Andersonville but the north had Rock Island, Camp Douglas and Elmira, all terrible. The National Archives has informed me that the surviving records for Rock Island have never been microfilmed and if I want to search them then I will need to go to Washington. Perhaps I can discover the transcription error or oversight , if one was made, when individual Confederate soldier records were originally compiled in the early 1900s. I may wind up doing this if I can convince my wife that this would make a real good interesting vacation. Thanks for your suggestion, Gene Wade ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> To: <TNMCNAIR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ? > > Gene, > > If the Muster Rolls for Jesse Martin Odom's company have survived and the > records of the U.S. Army for prisoners who died at Rock Island, both may > show the same date of death and you can get them to change the marker. > > Regards, > > Julie Preston > juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gene Wade > To: TNMCNAIR-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:04 PM > Subject: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ? > > > Can anyone out there tell me if there is a J.M. MARTIN? The J.M. Martin I > am seeking would have been a Confederate soldier in Company B, 27th > Tennessee Infantry who died at the Rock Island prison camp 2/14/1864 and > is in grave 490. J. M. Martin is listed in the Civil War Soldiers and > Sailors system but the only record the federal archives has is a single > record stating that there is a tombstone at the Rock Island Camp with that > name on it. > > I have a suspicion that because of a recording or transcription error > either at the camp in 1864 or after about 1905 when the tombstones were > made that the wrong name of J. M. MARTIN was inscribed instead of the > correct name of Jesse Martin ODOM. It's not too hard to realize how the > name could have been recorded incorrectly by someone in a hurry. The > Jesse Martin ODOM I am seeking was indeed with Co B, 27th Tennessee > Infantry (note same unit as shown for J.M. Martin) and according to > federal archives records was captured at Missionary Ridge and transported > to Rock Island on Dec 8, 1863. Then Jesse Martin ODOM seems to have > disappeared after a Dec 25, 1863 Rock Island prisoner roll, never to > return to his wife and seven children. > > Strange request I know but I need to determine if there really was a J. > M. Martin before I can really assume and hope that this relative Jesse > Martin ODOM received a decent burial instead of being thrown in the river > or something. > > Is J.M. MARTIN really my Jesse Martin ODOM.? Did the Rock Island camp in > error "manufacture" a non-existent person and bury a real Confederate in a > mismarked grave? Any help or suggestions are appreciated. > > Gene Wade > Loganville, GA > > a > > > ==== TNMCNAIR Mailing List ==== > McNairy County Tennessee > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcnair/index.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > ==== TNMCNAIR Mailing List ==== > McNairy County Tennessee > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcnair/index.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

    03/31/2006 11:48:00
    1. Re: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ?
    2. Kathy Dell
    3. Gene, It would be a good vacation. I recommend that you try to get here before the summer crowds. You would be amazed at how many come to DC for genealogical research. Since I live just North of Baltimore, I go down to the archives when I need to. Monday is a good day to go as there are few others except the professionals. You can't take anything at all into the research area (with the exception of loose paper notes, no spirals, no pens, no staples) so remember that. They provide free lockers. You will have to be there to put in your request at the specified time, then you come back to get the records later in the day. They do not do continuous pulls. As far as I know there is no time limit on the items you get, you can have them kept out for you, or at least you can at Archives II. I've never pulled anything downtown. As for your wife, there is so very much to do and see that it takes your breath away. What is she interested in? Art? you are just around the corner from the National Art Museum, which is by the Smithsonian. Essentially, you can walk around the Archives (genealogy entrance is on the back side on Pennsylvania Ave) and be there with the Washington Monument on one end and the Capitol bldg on the other. Absolutely everything is there. The Metro is the best way to get around if you can. It is not like the NY subway. There is an exit right at the genealogy entrance to the Archives. If you don't want to stay in downtown, you can just about pick your place and find a nice hotel close to the Metro. http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm something on the Orange line or the Blue line because your stop is Federal Triangle. Actually, have your wife bring her best friend, that way they can go sight seeing or shopping while you don't have to feel rushed in your research to keep her entertained. Then after you've ascertained the identity of said soldier, which I hope goes quickly, go check out Antietam battle field, or go into the I95 corridor of battlefields. Chancellorsville is not far. http://www.civilwar-va.com/virginia/ To give you an idea of drive times, it is just about one hour from the W. Wilson Bridge to Fredericksburg. (great little downtown shopping area and a National Cemetery where the Rebs held their line. I love it plus it is the last stop on the Metro Commuter Rail, so you don't have to drive.) If you don't like the Antiques stuff, go to one of the mega malls between Springfield and F'burg. I recommend Ikea for a fun stop. So, it is entirely possible to make this happen and keep everybody happy. Oh, I recommend that you call the Archives and get the details about what you need to search so you won't waste time getting that all figured out. You have to have the exact number of the volume for them to pull it. Or hire one of the folks listed on the archives site to do the research for you. I like to look at the records myself because I am steeped in the names and stuff so I can see other connections. Besides you need to come see your capitol. Let me know what happens. Kathy Cockeysville, MD Gene Wade wrote: > Julie, > > Thanks for the reply. I have done my best to search for rosters but > can find only bits and pieces and none I have found show either a J.M. > Martin or a Jesse Martin Odom. And you can be sure that if I can > establish that there really is an error on the marker that a request > to replace the marker will be made. Every Confederate soldier > deserves a marker but unfortunately so many of them simply disappeared > in prison camps. Some northern camps properly buried and marked > graves, some bodies were simply thrown into lakes and rivers and it is > known that many northern medical schools were well supplied with > "cadavers" for their medical "research". The South had its > Andersonville but the north had Rock Island, Camp Douglas and Elmira, > all terrible. > > The National Archives has informed me that the surviving records for > Rock Island have never been microfilmed and if I want to search them > then I will need to go to Washington. Perhaps I can discover the > transcription error or oversight , if one was made, when individual > Confederate soldier records were originally compiled in the early > 1900s. I may wind up doing this if I can convince my wife that this > would make a real good interesting vacation. > > Thanks for your suggestion, > Gene Wade > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" > <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> > To: <TNMCNAIR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:50 AM > Subject: Re: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ? > > >> >> Gene, >> >> If the Muster Rolls for Jesse Martin Odom's company have survived and >> the records of the U.S. Army for prisoners who died at Rock Island, >> both may show the same date of death and you can get them to change >> the marker. >> >> Regards, >> >> Julie Preston >> juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net >> ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Wade >> To: TNMCNAIR-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:04 PM >> Subject: [TNMCNAIRY] Is there a J. M. MARTIN ? >> >> >> Can anyone out there tell me if there is a J.M. MARTIN? The J.M. >> Martin I am seeking would have been a Confederate soldier in Company >> B, 27th Tennessee Infantry who died at the Rock Island prison camp >> 2/14/1864 and is in grave 490. J. M. Martin is listed in the Civil >> War Soldiers and Sailors system but the only record the federal >> archives has is a single record stating that there is a tombstone at >> the Rock Island Camp with that name on it. >> >> I have a suspicion that because of a recording or transcription >> error either at the camp in 1864 or after about 1905 when the >> tombstones were made that the wrong name of J. M. MARTIN was >> inscribed instead of the correct name of Jesse Martin ODOM. It's >> not too hard to realize how the name could have been recorded >> incorrectly by someone in a hurry. The Jesse Martin ODOM I am >> seeking was indeed with Co B, 27th Tennessee Infantry (note same unit >> as shown for J.M. Martin) and according to federal archives records >> was captured at Missionary Ridge and transported to Rock Island on >> Dec 8, 1863. Then Jesse Martin ODOM seems to have disappeared after >> a Dec 25, 1863 Rock Island prisoner roll, never to return to his wife >> and seven children. >> >> Strange request I know but I need to determine if there really was a >> J. M. Martin before I can really assume and hope that this relative >> Jesse Martin ODOM received a decent burial instead of being thrown >> in the river or something. >> >> Is J.M. MARTIN really my Jesse Martin ODOM.? Did the Rock Island >> camp in error "manufacture" a non-existent person and bury a real >> Confederate in a mismarked grave? Any help or suggestions are >> appreciated. >> >> Gene Wade >> Loganville, GA >> >> a >> >> >> ==== TNMCNAIR Mailing List ==== >> McNairy County Tennessee >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcnair/index.html >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. 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    04/01/2006 05:35:48