John, I have done a lot of Plunk work. What part are you interested in? Johnita John Brewer wrote: > > Sonya, > > Hey, come on out and join the fun! I'm not down on anyone who works in the > trenches. It is a hard job and all you get is an Attagirl or Attaboy. No one > can blame you or any other transcriber because if I didn't know the family I > would have put down Brown. That is the reason I say anyone who wants to be sure > they must search the documents. I look at a transcribed census and locate who I > am looking for and record all the census information like page, line, district > and so on. When I "roll the film" I go to that location and look at everyone in > the district. I found my great grandfather in Montague County, Texas in 1900 by > using this technique. I was looking for someone else. Two cousins and myself > work on this family and none of us had any ideal he had been there in that > timeframe. I have a four volume set of Parker County, Texas cemetery books and > will be happy to do lookups for anyone. > > I can't blame the census take for his writing. What he had to work from > considering that many people in 1850 could barely write their names. They > didn't have the media exposure we have today. I was raised on a cotton farm in > the edge of the Texas Panhandle in the late 1930's and 1940's. We didn't get > the REA there until 1953. I went in the Army in 1953 and I didn't know how to > make a telephone call. I wasn't stupid, we just didn't have a telephone. I > have a telephone book from that time and when the phone numbers start with "!" > and go to "98" you say , Wow. I know the people in 1850 didn't do the things > that we take for granted. I'm sure there were a lot of areas in McNairy County > that didn't have electricity in 1953. The census taker had to pull the > information out of the people. I'm sure the 1850 population were lucky to know > the year, more less the month and day. Business owners didn't give calendars > back them. > > What do you have on the Jackson's/Plunk's/Sewell's and Brewer's? I would like > everyone on this site get fired up and put volumes of information out. > > Are we having fun yet? > > John Wayne > > Sonya Tilley wrote: > > > Hey, John. I've been lurking in the background to see what you and Johnita > > finally decided about the Brown/Brewer issue. I'm the one who transcribed > > the 1850 McNairy County, TN census that's online. I can understand how the > > two names could be confused, especially with that particular census taker. > > You could certainly tell from reading the microfilm when he was getting > > tired. I don't remember being in a quandary about this family, but I am > > willing to take another look at the microfilm I have as soon as I get the > > chance. I should be able to get to it by this weekend. I will post my > > "interpretation" (heheheheh) as soon as possible. Frankly, if Johnita Malone > > thinks there's a possibility that it's Brewer, and not Brown, that is enough > > for me to take another look. > > > > Sonya Sipes Tilley > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Brewer" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [TNMCNAIR] Jackson > > > > > K. Dell > > > > > > Thank you for your input. You didn't butt in, the list is for everyone to > > put their > > > genealogical data out and see what others have to say. If Johnita or > > myself didn't > > > want everyone to see it, we would communicate to our private address. > > Later census, > > > starting in 1900 take that into account by listing the relationship to the > > head of > > > household. So many times records are not available or legible and all we > > can do is > > > examine what facts we have and work from them. Your statement supports my > > position > > > that you cannot go by what has been transcribed as solid fact. Anyone not > > knowing > > > the family would not have known that Tennessee Barnett and Tennessee > > Hughes were in > > > fact the same person. Find it in a transcribed document then look at the > > orginal > > > document or microfilm. Transcribed censeses are useful to speed the > > location of the > > > data in the actual film. > > > > > > In a transcribed census, 1910 Stepehns County, Oklahoma I pointed out > > mistakes to a > > > transcriber that were in my immediate family. My father and uncles who I > > had lived > > > with for many years, names were not correct as well as the ages. I showed > > her in the > > > census film where it was correct, and was informed that she didn't > > interput it that > > > way. I blew my stack and told her to read, not interput. > > > > > > That is why I like to look at the orginal documents. Any mistake is mine > > not someone > > > who dosen't know the family I am working on. I would like to come to > > Tennessee and > > > see the actual marriage records or at least the microfilm. In the case > > of family > > > 1250 in the 1850 census, the entry appears to be Brown. After close > > examination and > > > comparisons of other examples of his handwriting, reverse imiaging and > > some other > > > known facts, I decided that this could be William Brewer. What are the > > chances of > > > having two Lucy's married to a William, and two Nancy's as the daughter > > of a > > > William and both Lucy's come from N.C. and both Nancy' are the same age, 3 > > YOA. As > > > well as living in the same civil district. Those are mighty big "odds". > > > > > > I'll bet I have wore out a hundred shovels digging roots. > > > > > > John Wayne Brewer > > > Killeen, Bell County, Texas > > > > > > k dell wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry to butt in but, your surmises of the surname may not be correct. > > I have > > > > Tennessee Hughes b. 1867, dau. of William C. Hughes and Susan Barnett > > (nee > > > > Davis). Both were widowed during the war. Many documents give her name > > as > > > > Tennessee Barnett. I don't know why this happened, but it did. > > > > > > > > The younger siblings always used Hughes. Tennessee looked like WC too. > > > > > > > > As to parentage, in the cases of children born out of wedlock, what I > > have mostly > > > > seen during that era (at least in Hardn Co.) is a simple incorporation > > into the > > > > g-parents family and reporting that family's surname whether living with > > the > > > > mother's or with the father's family. Who the other parent was is just > > a matter > > > > of family story & speculation. > > > > > > > > k > > > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young > > married > > > > > couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. > > > > > > > > > > What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long > > > > > lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and > > could > > > > > not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found > > her > > > > > ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina > > > > > Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in > > 1870, > > > > > and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to > > > > > think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the > > surname > > > > > Barnes. > > > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Johnita, > > > > > > > > > > > > The census for 1860 shows; > > > > > > > > > > > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > > > > > > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > > > > > > Penelope Barns 17 > > > > > > John W. 3/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. > > Jackson. The > > > > > > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for > > 1850 > > > > > > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1850 Census > > > > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > > > > District 8, household 1279 > > > > > > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > > > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > > > > > > John/10/M/W/TN > > > > > > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > > > > > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > > > > > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > > > > > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1860 Census > > > > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > > > > District 8, household 1417 > > > > > > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > > > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > > > > > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > > > > > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > > > > > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > > > > > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > > > > > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > > > > > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > > > > > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > > > > > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > > > > > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > > > > > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > > > > > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The > > Plunks > > > > > > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > > > > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > > > > > > John B. 20 TN > > > > > > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > > > > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > > > > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > > > > > > James P. 10 TN > > > > > > > > William 6 TN > > > > > > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > > > > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a > > week and > > > > > > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne > > >
Sonya, Hey, come on out and join the fun! I'm not down on anyone who works in the trenches. It is a hard job and all you get is an Attagirl or Attaboy. No one can blame you or any other transcriber because if I didn't know the family I would have put down Brown. That is the reason I say anyone who wants to be sure they must search the documents. I look at a transcribed census and locate who I am looking for and record all the census information like page, line, district and so on. When I "roll the film" I go to that location and look at everyone in the district. I found my great grandfather in Montague County, Texas in 1900 by using this technique. I was looking for someone else. Two cousins and myself work on this family and none of us had any ideal he had been there in that timeframe. I have a four volume set of Parker County, Texas cemetery books and will be happy to do lookups for anyone. I can't blame the census take for his writing. What he had to work from considering that many people in 1850 could barely write their names. They didn't have the media exposure we have today. I was raised on a cotton farm in the edge of the Texas Panhandle in the late 1930's and 1940's. We didn't get the REA there until 1953. I went in the Army in 1953 and I didn't know how to make a telephone call. I wasn't stupid, we just didn't have a telephone. I have a telephone book from that time and when the phone numbers start with "!" and go to "98" you say , Wow. I know the people in 1850 didn't do the things that we take for granted. I'm sure there were a lot of areas in McNairy County that didn't have electricity in 1953. The census taker had to pull the information out of the people. I'm sure the 1850 population were lucky to know the year, more less the month and day. Business owners didn't give calendars back them. What do you have on the Jackson's/Plunk's/Sewell's and Brewer's? I would like everyone on this site get fired up and put volumes of information out. Are we having fun yet? John Wayne Sonya Tilley wrote: > Hey, John. I've been lurking in the background to see what you and Johnita > finally decided about the Brown/Brewer issue. I'm the one who transcribed > the 1850 McNairy County, TN census that's online. I can understand how the > two names could be confused, especially with that particular census taker. > You could certainly tell from reading the microfilm when he was getting > tired. I don't remember being in a quandary about this family, but I am > willing to take another look at the microfilm I have as soon as I get the > chance. I should be able to get to it by this weekend. I will post my > "interpretation" (heheheheh) as soon as possible. Frankly, if Johnita Malone > thinks there's a possibility that it's Brewer, and not Brown, that is enough > for me to take another look. > > Sonya Sipes Tilley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Brewer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: [TNMCNAIR] Jackson > > > K. Dell > > > > Thank you for your input. You didn't butt in, the list is for everyone to > put their > > genealogical data out and see what others have to say. If Johnita or > myself didn't > > want everyone to see it, we would communicate to our private address. > Later census, > > starting in 1900 take that into account by listing the relationship to the > head of > > household. So many times records are not available or legible and all we > can do is > > examine what facts we have and work from them. Your statement supports my > position > > that you cannot go by what has been transcribed as solid fact. Anyone not > knowing > > the family would not have known that Tennessee Barnett and Tennessee > Hughes were in > > fact the same person. Find it in a transcribed document then look at the > orginal > > document or microfilm. Transcribed censeses are useful to speed the > location of the > > data in the actual film. > > > > In a transcribed census, 1910 Stepehns County, Oklahoma I pointed out > mistakes to a > > transcriber that were in my immediate family. My father and uncles who I > had lived > > with for many years, names were not correct as well as the ages. I showed > her in the > > census film where it was correct, and was informed that she didn't > interput it that > > way. I blew my stack and told her to read, not interput. > > > > That is why I like to look at the orginal documents. Any mistake is mine > not someone > > who dosen't know the family I am working on. I would like to come to > Tennessee and > > see the actual marriage records or at least the microfilm. In the case > of family > > 1250 in the 1850 census, the entry appears to be Brown. After close > examination and > > comparisons of other examples of his handwriting, reverse imiaging and > some other > > known facts, I decided that this could be William Brewer. What are the > chances of > > having two Lucy's married to a William, and two Nancy's as the daughter > of a > > William and both Lucy's come from N.C. and both Nancy' are the same age, 3 > YOA. As > > well as living in the same civil district. Those are mighty big "odds". > > > > I'll bet I have wore out a hundred shovels digging roots. > > > > John Wayne Brewer > > Killeen, Bell County, Texas > > > > k dell wrote: > > > > > Sorry to butt in but, your surmises of the surname may not be correct. > I have > > > Tennessee Hughes b. 1867, dau. of William C. Hughes and Susan Barnett > (nee > > > Davis). Both were widowed during the war. Many documents give her name > as > > > Tennessee Barnett. I don't know why this happened, but it did. > > > > > > The younger siblings always used Hughes. Tennessee looked like WC too. > > > > > > As to parentage, in the cases of children born out of wedlock, what I > have mostly > > > seen during that era (at least in Hardn Co.) is a simple incorporation > into the > > > g-parents family and reporting that family's surname whether living with > the > > > mother's or with the father's family. Who the other parent was is just > a matter > > > of family story & speculation. > > > > > > k > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young > married > > > > couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. > > > > > > > > What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long > > > > lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and > could > > > > not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found > her > > > > ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina > > > > Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in > 1870, > > > > and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to > > > > think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the > surname > > > > Barnes. > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Johnita, > > > > > > > > > > The census for 1860 shows; > > > > > > > > > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > > > > > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > > > > > Penelope Barns 17 > > > > > John W. 3/12 > > > > > > > > > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. > Jackson. The > > > > > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne. > > > > > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for > 1850 > > > > > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1850 Census > > > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > > > District 8, household 1279 > > > > > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > > > > > John/10/M/W/TN > > > > > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > > > > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > > > > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > > > > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > > > > > > > > > 1860 Census > > > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > > > District 8, household 1417 > > > > > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > > > > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > > > > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > > > > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > > > > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > > > > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > > > > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > > > > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > > > > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > > > > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > > > > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > > > > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > > > > > > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The > Plunks > > > > > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > > > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > > > > > John B. 20 TN > > > > > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > > > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > > > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > > > > > James P. 10 TN > > > > > > > William 6 TN > > > > > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > > > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a > week and > > > > > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne > >
Hey, John. I've been lurking in the background to see what you and Johnita finally decided about the Brown/Brewer issue. I'm the one who transcribed the 1850 McNairy County, TN census that's online. I can understand how the two names could be confused, especially with that particular census taker. You could certainly tell from reading the microfilm when he was getting tired. I don't remember being in a quandary about this family, but I am willing to take another look at the microfilm I have as soon as I get the chance. I should be able to get to it by this weekend. I will post my "interpretation" (heheheheh) as soon as possible. Frankly, if Johnita Malone thinks there's a possibility that it's Brewer, and not Brown, that is enough for me to take another look. Sonya Sipes Tilley ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Brewer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [TNMCNAIR] Jackson > K. Dell > > Thank you for your input. You didn't butt in, the list is for everyone to put their > genealogical data out and see what others have to say. If Johnita or myself didn't > want everyone to see it, we would communicate to our private address. Later census, > starting in 1900 take that into account by listing the relationship to the head of > household. So many times records are not available or legible and all we can do is > examine what facts we have and work from them. Your statement supports my position > that you cannot go by what has been transcribed as solid fact. Anyone not knowing > the family would not have known that Tennessee Barnett and Tennessee Hughes were in > fact the same person. Find it in a transcribed document then look at the orginal > document or microfilm. Transcribed censeses are useful to speed the location of the > data in the actual film. > > In a transcribed census, 1910 Stepehns County, Oklahoma I pointed out mistakes to a > transcriber that were in my immediate family. My father and uncles who I had lived > with for many years, names were not correct as well as the ages. I showed her in the > census film where it was correct, and was informed that she didn't interput it that > way. I blew my stack and told her to read, not interput. > > That is why I like to look at the orginal documents. Any mistake is mine not someone > who dosen't know the family I am working on. I would like to come to Tennessee and > see the actual marriage records or at least the microfilm. In the case of family > 1250 in the 1850 census, the entry appears to be Brown. After close examination and > comparisons of other examples of his handwriting, reverse imiaging and some other > known facts, I decided that this could be William Brewer. What are the chances of > having two Lucy's married to a William, and two Nancy's as the daughter of a > William and both Lucy's come from N.C. and both Nancy' are the same age, 3 YOA. As > well as living in the same civil district. Those are mighty big "odds". > > I'll bet I have wore out a hundred shovels digging roots. > > John Wayne Brewer > Killeen, Bell County, Texas > > k dell wrote: > > > Sorry to butt in but, your surmises of the surname may not be correct. I have > > Tennessee Hughes b. 1867, dau. of William C. Hughes and Susan Barnett (nee > > Davis). Both were widowed during the war. Many documents give her name as > > Tennessee Barnett. I don't know why this happened, but it did. > > > > The younger siblings always used Hughes. Tennessee looked like WC too. > > > > As to parentage, in the cases of children born out of wedlock, what I have mostly > > seen during that era (at least in Hardn Co.) is a simple incorporation into the > > g-parents family and reporting that family's surname whether living with the > > mother's or with the father's family. Who the other parent was is just a matter > > of family story & speculation. > > > > k > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young married > > > couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. > > > > > > What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long > > > lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and could > > > not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found her > > > ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina > > > Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in 1870, > > > and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to > > > think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the surname > > > Barnes. > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > Johnita, > > > > > > > > The census for 1860 shows; > > > > > > > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > > > > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > > > > Penelope Barns 17 > > > > John W. 3/12 > > > > > > > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. Jackson. The > > > > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > > > > > > > John Wayne. > > > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 > > > > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > > > > > > > 1850 Census > > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > > District 8, household 1279 > > > > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > > > > John/10/M/W/TN > > > > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > > > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > > > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > > > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > > > > > > > 1860 Census > > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > > District 8, household 1417 > > > > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > > > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > > > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > > > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > > > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > > > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > > > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > > > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > > > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > > > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > > > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > > > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > > > > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks > > > > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > > > > John B. 20 TN > > > > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > > > > James P. 10 TN > > > > > > William 6 TN > > > > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > > > > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne >
List, This site has some interesting information about sites to be aware of. http://www.ancestordetective.com/watchdog.htm John Wayne Brewer
Yes, you are correct. There could be several reasons for the name change. I cannot be sure as to why. I have been told that she did not know who her parents were. That she was an orphan and this may still be the case. You can prove very little by just looking at the census. It's just a good starting place. Johnita k dell wrote: > > Sorry to butt in but, your surmises of the surname may not be correct. I have > Tennessee Hughes b. 1867, dau. of William C. Hughes and Susan Barnett (nee > Davis). Both were widowed during the war. Many documents give her name as > Tennessee Barnett. I don't know why this happened, but it did. > > The younger siblings always used Hughes. Tennessee looked like WC too. > > As to parentage, in the cases of children born out of wedlock, what I have mostly > seen during that era (at least in Hardn Co.) is a simple incorporation into the > g-parents family and reporting that family's surname whether living with the > mother's or with the father's family. Who the other parent was is just a matter > of family story & speculation. > > k > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young married > > couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. > > > > What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long > > lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and could > > not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found her > > ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina > > Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in 1870, > > and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to > > think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the surname > > Barnes. > > > > Johnita > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > Johnita, > > > > > > The census for 1860 shows; > > > > > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > > > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > > > Penelope Barns 17 > > > John W. 3/12 > > > > > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. Jackson. The > > > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > > > > > John Wayne. > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 > > > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > > > > > 1850 Census > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > District 8, household 1279 > > > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > > > John/10/M/W/TN > > > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > > > > > 1860 Census > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > District 8, household 1417 > > > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks > > > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > > > John B. 20 TN > > > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > > > James P. 10 TN > > > > > William 6 TN > > > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > > > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne
Corinth was my home town. I am familiar with that little store. A guy that I grew up with worked there in the mid-1970`s . He still lives there. His name was John Richard (Ricky) Burress. He would be listed in the Corinth phone book. You might give him a call... Best Wishes, Tom Mathis [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 9/29/2000 8:40:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Corinth >> > > I noticed that some of you have done research in Corinth or lived there. I > was wondering if anyone knew anything of Jackson's Grocery on Polk Street ( > Highway 45 North). I have been told that my gr.uncle may of owned that store > back in the 50's. We have not been able to find out much information on him. > His name was Brodie Jackson son of George Wesley (Babe) Jackson and Martha > Jane Butler. I would love to know if he was married or had children. He was > born February 23, 1897 in McNairy and died May 14, 1990 in Hardin County. > > Thanks, > > Jan Minter
K. Dell Thank you for your input. You didn't butt in, the list is for everyone to put their genealogical data out and see what others have to say. If Johnita or myself didn't want everyone to see it, we would communicate to our private address. Later census, starting in 1900 take that into account by listing the relationship to the head of household. So many times records are not available or legible and all we can do is examine what facts we have and work from them. Your statement supports my position that you cannot go by what has been transcribed as solid fact. Anyone not knowing the family would not have known that Tennessee Barnett and Tennessee Hughes were in fact the same person. Find it in a transcribed document then look at the orginal document or microfilm. Transcribed censeses are useful to speed the location of the data in the actual film. In a transcribed census, 1910 Stepehns County, Oklahoma I pointed out mistakes to a transcriber that were in my immediate family. My father and uncles who I had lived with for many years, names were not correct as well as the ages. I showed her in the census film where it was correct, and was informed that she didn't interput it that way. I blew my stack and told her to read, not interput. That is why I like to look at the orginal documents. Any mistake is mine not someone who dosen't know the family I am working on. I would like to come to Tennessee and see the actual marriage records or at least the microfilm. In the case of family 1250 in the 1850 census, the entry appears to be Brown. After close examination and comparisons of other examples of his handwriting, reverse imiaging and some other known facts, I decided that this could be William Brewer. What are the chances of having two Lucy's married to a William, and two Nancy's as the daughter of a William and both Lucy's come from N.C. and both Nancy' are the same age, 3 YOA. As well as living in the same civil district. Those are mighty big "odds". I'll bet I have wore out a hundred shovels digging roots. John Wayne Brewer Killeen, Bell County, Texas k dell wrote: > Sorry to butt in but, your surmises of the surname may not be correct. I have > Tennessee Hughes b. 1867, dau. of William C. Hughes and Susan Barnett (nee > Davis). Both were widowed during the war. Many documents give her name as > Tennessee Barnett. I don't know why this happened, but it did. > > The younger siblings always used Hughes. Tennessee looked like WC too. > > As to parentage, in the cases of children born out of wedlock, what I have mostly > seen during that era (at least in Hardn Co.) is a simple incorporation into the > g-parents family and reporting that family's surname whether living with the > mother's or with the father's family. Who the other parent was is just a matter > of family story & speculation. > > k > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young married > > couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. > > > > What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long > > lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and could > > not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found her > > ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina > > Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in 1870, > > and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to > > think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the surname > > Barnes. > > > > Johnita > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > Johnita, > > > > > > The census for 1860 shows; > > > > > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > > > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > > > Penelope Barns 17 > > > John W. 3/12 > > > > > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. Jackson. The > > > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > > > > > John Wayne. > > > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 > > > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > > > > > 1850 Census > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > District 8, household 1279 > > > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > > > John/10/M/W/TN > > > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > > > > > 1860 Census > > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > > District 8, household 1417 > > > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks > > > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > > > John B. 20 TN > > > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > > > James P. 10 TN > > > > > William 6 TN > > > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > > > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > > > > > John Wayne
I think youare talking about Boneyard road. It is a short road that runs from Hwy 45 to 7th st / Shiloh road. Kossuth is just a few miles south west of Corinth, just off hwy 72. To get to Chewalla TN., you would go out Wenasoga road from Corinth. It is about 10 miles from the Corinth city limits. Chewalla is a very small town as is Kossuth. They consist of about 2 stores and a Post office. If I can answer any questions, do not hesitate to contact me. Best Wishes, Tom Mathis Odessa Isbell wrote: > Tom, > > Thank you so very much for your information. > > I have written Nell Lowe just now regarding our Estes family that lived in McNairy Co. > and near Corinth. Kossuth and Boneyard are each shown as places for the Estes family. > Do you have any history of the two areas? I tried to find everything I could in Corinth > but I am sure I missed a lot. > > Odessa > > Thomas Mathis wrote: > > > Yes, > > Kossuth is only about 25 miles from Chewalla, TN. I grew up in Corinth and have > > know that area > > very well... > > > > Yours, Tom Mathis > > > > Odessa Isbell wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Nell. I appreciate your help. > > > > > > The "story" in our Estes family is that they moved 50 miles to Kossuth, > > > Alcorn/Tishomingo Co., MS. I have proof Lyddal Bacon Estes had land in the 9th > > > Dist, 2nd Range, 1st Section of McNairy Co. in 1826. I thought this was near > > > Chewalla. One child was born there. I have proof of his land in Kossuth, MS. > > > Would Chewalla be within 50 miles of the MS land? > > > Can you tell me if there is someone in McNairy Co. who would research this land > > > for me? If so, have them contact me and give me their fees for research. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > Odessa Isbell > > > > > > Nell Lowe wrote: > > > > > > > Odessa, > > > > > > > > According to this map by Nancy Wardlow Kennedy of 1890 McNairy, and with the > > > > warning that it may not be absolutely correct, district 9 is in the far SE > > > > corner and includes the towns of Acton, Michie, Rushing Needmore, Tulu, > > > > Chambers and Pebble Hill. > > > > > > > > Nell > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Odessa Isbell <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:36 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [TNMCNAIR] 1890 District Lines > > > > > > > > > Nell, can you tell me where Dist. 9 were? Thanks. > > > > > Odessa > > > > > > > > > > Nell Lowe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have a copy of a map of McNairy County which shows district lines in > > > > 1890 as interpreted by Nancy Wardlow Kennedy. It states that it "should not > > > > be construed as absolutely correct". > > > > > > > > > > > > District 11and 12 are shown to be in the NE area of the county. > > > > District 12 is in the far NE corner with towns Milledgeville and Mt. Zion > > > > included. The district just west, district 16, includes the towns of Center > > > > Hill and Rocky Knob. Just south of district 16 is district 11 including > > > > Leapwood and Mars Hill. > > > > > > > > > > > > The districts may not have been the same in earlier years but this might > > > > help get a start or it might cloud the issue if district lines were > > > > radically changed over the years. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nell
Sorry to butt in but, your surmises of the surname may not be correct. I have Tennessee Hughes b. 1867, dau. of William C. Hughes and Susan Barnett (nee Davis). Both were widowed during the war. Many documents give her name as Tennessee Barnett. I don't know why this happened, but it did. The younger siblings always used Hughes. Tennessee looked like WC too. As to parentage, in the cases of children born out of wedlock, what I have mostly seen during that era (at least in Hardn Co.) is a simple incorporation into the g-parents family and reporting that family's surname whether living with the mother's or with the father's family. Who the other parent was is just a matter of family story & speculation. k "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young married > couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. > > What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long > lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and could > not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found her > ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina > Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in 1870, > and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to > think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the surname > Barnes. > > Johnita > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > Johnita, > > > > The census for 1860 shows; > > > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > > Penelope Barns 17 > > John W. 3/12 > > > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. Jackson. The > > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > > > John Wayne. > > > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 > > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > > > 1850 Census > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > District 8, household 1279 > > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > > John/10/M/W/TN > > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > > > 1860 Census > > > McNairy Co., TN. > > > District 8, household 1417 > > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks > > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > > > Johnita > > > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > > John B. 20 TN > > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > > James P. 10 TN > > > > William 6 TN > > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > > > John Wayne
Yes, I think so. She was his daughter Penelope and often young married couples lived for a time with either his or her parents. What's even more interesting that it appears that Penelope is the long lost mother of Chestina E. Jackson for whom I've been looking and could not find. Had I not been trying to help you I would never have found her ever. I just can't figure why she was Chestina Jackson and Chestina Barnes. I think for sure, though, that this is my girl, age 1, in 1870, and 11 in 1880. Now who in the world could her father be? I have to think it wasn't M. B. Barnes, otherwise, she would have used the surname Barnes. Johnita John Brewer wrote: > > Johnita, > > The census for 1860 shows; > > dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson > 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 > Penelope Barns 17 > John W. 3/12 > > I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. Jackson. The > census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. > > John Wayne. > > "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > > > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 > > and 1860 are as follows: > > > > 1850 Census > > McNairy Co., TN. > > District 8, household 1279 > > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > > John/10/M/W/TN > > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > > Mary/4/F/W/TN > > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > > > 1860 Census > > McNairy Co., TN. > > District 8, household 1417 > > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > > James P./10/M/W/TN > > William A./6/M/W/TN > > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks > > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > > > Johnita > > > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > > Nancy 39 TN > > > John B. 20 TN > > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > > Mary E. 14 TN > > > Martha A. 12 TN > > > James P. 10 TN > > > William 6 TN > > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > > > John Wayne
Johnita, The census for 1860 shows; dwelling 1417 family 1431 Wm. Jackson 1432 M.B. Barnes 19 Penelope Barns 17 John W. 3/12 I assume M.B. Barnes married Penelope and and lived with Wm. Jackson. The census does not have anything for the dwelling for M.B. Barnes. John Wayne. "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 > and 1860 are as follows: > > 1850 Census > McNairy Co., TN. > District 8, household 1279 > William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer > Nancy/28/F/W/TN > John/10/M/W/TN > Sarah/8/F/W/TN > Penelope/6/F/W/TN > Mary/4/F/W/TN > Martha/2/F/W/TN > > 1860 Census > McNairy Co., TN. > District 8, household 1417 > William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer > Nancy/39/F/W/TN > John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor > Sarah E./18/F/W/TN > Mary E./14/F/W/TN > Martha A./12/F/W/TN > James P./10/M/W/TN > William A./6/M/W/TN > Celia J./4/F/W/TN > M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year > Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year > John W./3 mos/M/W/TN > (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) > > The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks > lived a little further away at household 1372. > > Johnita > > John Brewer wrote: > > > > Barbara & Jan > > > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > > > William Jackson 42 TN > > Nancy 39 TN > > John B. 20 TN > > Sarah E. 18 TN > > Mary E. 14 TN > > Martha A. 12 TN > > James P. 10 TN > > William 6 TN > > Celia J. 4 TN > > > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > > maybe I can find her there. > > > > Keep Diggin' > > > > John Wayne
Yes, this is the son of Elias B. Sewell. Johnita [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/30/2000 12:41:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Luke married Nancy Jane Sewell daughter of > Oliver Perry Sewell and Sleeta Jane Jackson. >> > > Is this Oliver Perry Sewell the son of Elias B Sewell? > > Have a nice day, > > Jan
Celia J. Jackson is still living with her parents in 1870, age 14 which would make her the right age in 1880 to be 24 but the name is still spelled Celia J. It appears that Penelope's Barnes husband has died by 1870. I also made an interesting discovery while looking at Penelope's census record in 1870. 1870 Census McNairy Co., TN. District 11, household 7 Penelope Barner/25/F/W/TN/housekeeper Nancy A./8/F/W/TN William H./M/W/Tn Castina/1/F/W/TN This is the first time I've noticed this. There is a Chestina E. Jackson who married David H. Plunk. She was said to be an orphan and maybe illegimate. In 1880, she's living with David Plunk and his wife, Anna Gage, and she's age 11. Can this be she above? Sure looks like it could be but why is she later a Jackson and not a Barnes? I think, though, that this must be she. I also do not know who M. B. Barnes, husband of Penelope Jackson was. Johnita John Brewer wrote: > > Barbara & Jan > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > William Jackson 42 TN > Nancy 39 TN > John B. 20 TN > Sarah E. 18 TN > Mary E. 14 TN > Martha A. 12 TN > James P. 10 TN > William 6 TN > Celia J. 4 TN > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > maybe I can find her there. > > Keep Diggin' > > John Wayne
It's interesting to note that William Jackson's census records for 1850 and 1860 are as follows: 1850 Census McNairy Co., TN. District 8, household 1279 William Jackson/29/M/W/TN/farmer Nancy/28/F/W/TN John/10/M/W/TN Sarah/8/F/W/TN Penelope/6/F/W/TN Mary/4/F/W/TN Martha/2/F/W/TN 1860 Census McNairy Co., TN. District 8, household 1417 William Jackson/42/M/W/TN/farmer Nancy/39/F/W/TN John H./20/M/W/TN/farm labor Sarah E./18/F/W/TN Mary E./14/F/W/TN Martha A./12/F/W/TN James P./10/M/W/TN William A./6/M/W/TN Celia J./4/F/W/TN M. B. Barns/19/M/W/TN/day labor/married this year Penelipe/17/F/W/TN/married this year John W./3 mos/M/W/TN (Penelope Jackson then married a Barns.) The Brewers did live close by in 1860 at household 1420. The Plunks lived a little further away at household 1372. Johnita John Brewer wrote: > > Barbara & Jan > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > William Jackson 42 TN > Nancy 39 TN > John B. 20 TN > Sarah E. 18 TN > Mary E. 14 TN > Martha A. 12 TN > James P. 10 TN > William 6 TN > Celia J. 4 TN > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > maybe I can find her there. > > Keep Diggin' > > John Wayne
List, This is the URL for Parker County Texas, which has the Marriage books from 1874 through 1910 online. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txparker/ John Wayne Brewer
Yes, I believe that you could be right about Celia J. and Sleeta Jane and I do believe you that her maiden name was Jackson. I'm just trying to figure out who the Riley was that was her first husband. The marriage records in the late 1850s and early 1860s have been destroyed and I cannot look it up for the marriage to a Riley. Most interesting. Wonder if she had any connection to the Chestina Jackson who married David Plunk? Johnita John Brewer wrote: > > Barbara & Jan > > The McNairy County 1860 census list; > > William Jackson 42 TN > Nancy 39 TN > John B. 20 TN > Sarah E. 18 TN > Mary E. 14 TN > Martha A. 12 TN > James P. 10 TN > William 6 TN > Celia J. 4 TN > > Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry > Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and > maybe I can find her there. > > Keep Diggin' > > John Wayne
Barbara & Jan The McNairy County 1860 census list; William Jackson 42 TN Nancy 39 TN John B. 20 TN Sarah E. 18 TN Mary E. 14 TN Martha A. 12 TN James P. 10 TN William 6 TN Celia J. 4 TN Could Celia J. be our Sleeta Jane Jackson, wife of Oliver Perry Sewell? My 1870 CD is bad and I should have another in about a week and maybe I can find her there. Keep Diggin' John Wayne
is it possible that folks in GA could be on the 1790 and 1800 census of SC? I found a family in Spartanburg Dist SC in 1800 that matches exactly with my ancestor in Jackson Co GA. nolin
Yes I think so, the dates that I had for Oliver P. Sewell where only a year different than what he had... Descendants of Elias B. SEWELL 1 Elias B. SEWELL b: 16 December 1799 in Duplin Co., North Carolina d: 1880 in McNairy Co, Tennessee Buried: Mars Hill, McNiary Co., Tenn . +Jane "Jennie" RUNNOLDS b: 1803 in North Carolina m: Bef. 1825 in McNairy Co, Tennessee d: Aft. 1870 in McNairy Co, Tennessee Buried: Mars Hill, McNiary Co., Tenn .... 2 Harriett Ann SEWELL b: 22 January 1829 in Tennessee d: Abt. 1860 ........ +Allen Perry SWAIN b: 22 February 1822 in Tennessee d: Aft. 1860 in McNairy Co, Tennessee Father: William [jr.] SWAIN Mother: Rachel ANDERSON .... 2 Caroline SEWELL b: Abt. 1832 in Tennessee ........ +John [maybe] TERRY m: 13 December 1865 in McNairy Co, Tennessee, by W.H. Caruthers .... 2 Louisa SEWELL b: Abt. September 1835 in Tennessee d: Aft. 1900 in McNairy Co, Tennessee Buried: Mars Hill Cem,McNairy County, Her grave stone is missing. ........ +W.B. (Bennett) BUTLER b: 23 September 1835 in Tennessee m: Abt. 1857 in prob. McNairy Co, Tennessee d: 23 February 1891 in McNairy Co, Tennessee Buried: Mars Hill Cem,McNairy County, TN double stone with Louisa Father: Edmund BUTLER Mother: Margaret "Peggy" WALDRUP .... 2 Polly SEWELL b: Abt. 1841 in Tennessee ........ +Bill YOUNG .... 2 Nancy SEWELL b: Abt. 1843 in Tennessee ........ +Henry SMITH m: 11 September 1865 in McNairy Co, Tennessee by W.H. Caruthers .... 2 Rosetta Jane SEWELL b: 21 January 1847 in Tennessee d: 20 January 1928 ........ +Joseph "Pryor" JACKSON b: 20 August 1851 in McNairy Co, Tennessee m: 29 June 1873 in McNairy Co., Tenn. Book F, pg 5, J.J. Parrish, JP d: 22 June 1938 Father: William J. JACKSON Mother: Nancy ??? .... 2 Martha SEWELL b: Abt. 1848 in Tennessee .... 2 Mary Chamness SEWELL b: Abt. 1855 in Tennessee .... 2 Oliver Perry SEWELL b: 02 May 1838 in Tennessee d: 11 March 1891 in Springtown, Parker Co., Texas ........ +Sleeta/Scleeta Jane JACKSON b: 02 April 1856 in Mississippi d: 09 September 1903 in Springtown, Parker Co., Texas .... *2nd Wife of Oliver Perry SEWELL: ........ +Nancy G. ??? b: Abt. 1843 m: Bef. 1860 At 03:23 PM 09/30/2000 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 9/30/2000 12:41:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< Luke married Nancy Jane Sewell daughter of > Oliver Perry Sewell and Sleeta Jane Jackson. >> > >Is this Oliver Perry Sewell the son of Elias B Sewell? > > >Have a nice day, > >Jan > Have a great day! Barbara [email protected]
The marriage record says S. J. Riley. Was she a Jackson girl and the widow of a Riley? Johnita [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/30/2000 12:41:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Luke married Nancy Jane Sewell daughter of > Oliver Perry Sewell and Sleeta Jane Jackson. >> > > Is this Oliver Perry Sewell the son of Elias B Sewell? > > Have a nice day, > > Jan