Thank you so much Chuck. I forwarded you info to Larry Oliver in White Co., AR. He is a decendent of Tillman Oliver. My line goes from Nathan Oliver b. 1775 to Hezekiah b. 1817 to John Wesley b. 1837 to Josephine b. 1873. I have been trying to help Larry here. By the way my g-grandmother Josephine Oliver b. 1873 in AR, m. Joel David Tyler b. 1868 in Giles Co,TN. They m. in AR. Small world isn't it?? Thanks again, Carole in CA