All this talk about the Bell family has me wondering if anyone has seen this family associated with the Wells family. I have a Susannah Bell who married James Alfred Wells. Both were born in TN, but I don't know which county. Maury is a strong possibility as other branches of the family came from Maury Co. Susannah was born about 1820. By 1853, they moved to Pope County, Illinois. So, any Susannahs or Wells' out there? Anyone have family move up to Southern IL? Any help would be appreciated! Susan Carroll Kelley in IL

Eva, I have the following information, later I will connect through records some of these families of Dallas Co. AL with those of Maury Co. TN. I believe my Nancy Bell who married Hance Hamilton in Chester District SC has a relative in this listing: THE BULLETIN, Chester Co, SC Passenger list for the Earl of Donagal-Duncan Ferguson Master, which came to the port of Charleston Dec 22, 1767. This is one of Rev. William Martin's ships. The original of this list is in the Univ. of NC library. Michael Wilson age 35, Margaret Wilson age 25, Charles Wilson age 5, Jane Wilson age 4, Samuel Kelse (Kelso/Kelsey) 45, Samuel Kelse 10, George Kelse 17, John Wilson 12, Ann Wilson 10, Sarah Wylie 38, Samuel Wylie 6, Robert Willson 51, James Willson 4, Mary Bell 45, James Bell, Jr. 4, Samuel Bell 10, John Bell 6, Mary Bell 15, John Hamilton 20, Margaret Brown 30, Susan Kelse 44, Margaret Kelse 8, Samuel Willson 40, Margaret Willson 8, Elizabeth Willson 14, Rebecca Wylie 11, John Wylie 4, John Brown 6, Janet Kelse 16, John Kelse 6, Mary Wilson 38, Thomas Willson 4, James Wylie 45, Margaret Wylie 9, Joseph Wilson 6 Noting David Hamilton b. Aug 3, 1799 (eldest child of Hance Hamilton and Nancy Bell) m. Mary Wylie daughter of William Wylie and Isabella Kelso. William Wylie and Isabella Kelso moved to Perry Co. AL...now Dallas Co. AL. David Hamilton m. second Mrs. Mary E. Wilson. He died in Maury Co. and is buried at Rose Hill Cemetery in Columbia, Maury Co. TN. The daughter of Rev. John Bell Hamilton: Izora Chilloness (Gilloness) Hamilton m. William Bradshaw Wilson...I don't know if there is a connection in the Wilson line. I have a copy of one of the "Drapper Papers" which contains information concerning...Lucinda Jane Gill Morrow of Plantersville, Dallas Co. AL...I'll put this up She was Baptized at Fishing Creek and was the daughter of Agness Walker of Chester Co. SC. Would put up her fathers first name...but until I get my file, his last name was Gill. Through one of her children I have a connection to the Wilkins line of Maury Co. According to the DAR, Dr. Samuel Hamilton (father of Hance Hamilton) had a daughter Mary who also married a John A. Wilkins....however I've yet to seperate the Wilkins line. If I'm in error please let me know.. Pat.

Eva, Do you know if your Bell family were members of Fishing Creek Presbyterian Church in Chester Co. SC? Thanks, Pat

Doris, Have you looked at http://www.wdbj.net/~tnbaptist/burnett_jml.htm Sketches of Tennessee's Pioneer Baptist Preachers. Jesse Montreville Burnett. I haven't a clue where he connects, however It says at he age of 13 he was converted in a meeting held by Elders Joseph Manning and Ephraim Moore. Rev. John Bell, brother of Mary Lucinda Bell Roberts was a Baptist preacher and rambled around TN and NC...we've yet to track him down. You are probably familiar with the Bell book written by Getha Gina Bell Bells of USA and Allied Families. She has this entry and it appears to have documentation. This is on the CARTER family of VA If you want the full chapter, will put it through the scanner... Under John Carter (June 8, 1725-after 1793). Died in Orange County, Virginia. Son of Joseph and Catherine Carter. Orange County census of 1782 shows John with 16 whites and 30 servants. John married Susannah ?. John and Susannah were signers of many deeds in Orange and Spotsylvania counties until 1787 at which time she no longer appeared as a signer. John sold in January 1793 the place where I now live in Orange County to Roger and Henry Bell. Children: John Carter Jr.. Sep 21, 1757-June 20, 1808 in Spotsylvania County. Joseph Carter married Polly (Mary) Bell, Apr 23, 1791 in Orange County Priscilla Carter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------Robert Carter Aug 22, 1735-1791 son of Joseph and Catherine Carter probably born in Pittsylvania or Spotsylvania County. By 1752 he was living in Camden District, South Carolina where he married Margaret Brunson, daughter of William Brunson, Sr. and ? Fifth child Dr. Benjamin Carter June 14, 1792-1865 b. SC d. Pulaski Tennessee. His children Elizabeth m. Robert Rodes; Cornelia, m. Dr. Jacob Epperson; 3 Mary Margaret, m. ROBERT H. WATKINS Source: Excerpts from William and Mary Quarterly (vol. 18, No. 4) by Dr. Joseph Lyon Miller. Ceeds, Wills, census clerk of Court Davidson County, TN Evander M. Bell's daughter Sophronia Bell m. a Riley R. Carter of TN. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------- Give me a minute to run some of your names in the index of this book. I know there was a James M. Bell in Cocke Co. TN. ....Will only put up those items which are documented...Gina wasn't always accurate with relationship...the little Burnett's are in here, however the lines are iffy.... Pat

Dear Mary Laura: Thank you for writing. My Bell line comes from Chester Co. SC to Madison Co. AL to Maury Co. TN to Lewis Co. TN to Gibson Co. TN to Pulaski CO. AR to Lonoke Co. AR. My mother was b. in Lonoke Co. AR, as was I. In the Bell Family Bible there are Carters and Neelys listed that I knew nothing about until a few years ago. My grandfather Bell lived in Pine Bluff until he and my grandmother moved in with my parents in Brinkley AR where they lived until both died. The Bible is now in the possession of my cousin in Pine Bluff. [Since my grandfather was b. in Gibson Co. TN, I assume these early dates were from Gibson Co., but may not have been] Neely J. Carter was b. 1- J. A. Carter was b. 12-27-1859 T. J. Carter was b. 2 Mar 1857 There were a lot of Neely and Carter families in both Maury Co. TN and Madison Co. AL at the time my Bell men were there. This is what I can share with you. If you have more on the above mentioned individuals, I would appreciate knowing about it. Thanks, Eva Walker Myer

Thanks Rick...and Doris Continuing at least the important part of this thesis by Alleen Williams Carter. I believe I left off with the following paragraph: Jim Wilkins, John Neely and John Cooke were nephews of Hamilton and lived in the Hamilton home. Wilkins and Neely were sons of Hamilton's deceased sister, Polly Wilkins; Cooke, the son of Hamilton deceased sister Elizabeth Cooke. My notes: I know several on this list have sorted out the Wilkins connection as well as the Neely, however other than a John Cook listed in the home of John Bell Hamilton...I haven't a clue how he is related. John's sister Elizabeth Hamilton was born March 30, 1803 and d. Apr 22, 1830 Maruy co. TN She is buried in the Raleigh Dodson Cemetery, Maury Co. TN. She married Beverly Dodson Sep 28, 1818. John's sister Mary "Polly" Ann Hamilton m. John A. Wilkins. She was b. Sep 11, 1809 and died Aug 28, 1847. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------continuing... Dr. D. H. Dungan, husband of Hamilton's sister Lillie, served as Surgeon for he First Tennessee Cavalry The Dungans' daughter, Nannie (Nancy Jane) married O. (Oliver) Perry McGee, wh owned a plantation at Dixie Station, Alabama (my note: Perry Co. AL, now Chilton Co. AL) Hamilton spent much time there in the later years of the war. (my note: Dr. D. H. Dungan was the nephew of John Bell Hamilton, his mother was Lillie Hamilton Dungan. He married Alice Thompson, daughter of Dr. Elijah Thompson and Mary Ann Riley of Thompson's Station, TN. He moved to Little Rock Arkansas after the death of his wife and remarried) Isaac Milner was a Methodist minister and business associate of Hamilton. He and his brother Sam Milner, were engaged in the manufacturing of jeans for the Confederacy until a Union raid in 1863 burned their factory near Florence, Alabama. Milner is mentioned frequently in Hamilton's later letters. Alice Dickerson was Tommie Williams' sweetheart. Billy Williams, sometimes referred to only as "Brother," was Tommie's younger half-brother, and Elizabeth (Lizzie) Williams was his half-sister whom he called "Sis." (Edward Williams had married a second time after Tommie's mother died.) Billy joined Tommie's company in the fall of 1864. During his service Billy suffered the loss of a finger. Several of the Hamilton slaves are mentioned frequently. Their names are listed here in the hope of avoiding some confusion for the reader. John Turkey, John Stack, Dan, Peter, Fred, Marshall, Harriet and Mariah were some of the most trusted slaves. Carey was bought late in 1862. About the last of July, 1861, the Second Battalion marched to Camp Trousdale, Tennessee, near the Kentucky border, on the Louisville-Nashville Railroad, where it was encampted until September. Hamilton described it as a "camp of disease and death." August 29, 1861 My Wife, I reached home (the camp) last night in good health--found all my boys well except Al Carigan who is detailed home on the sick list. I found on my arrival that a petition of the officer who had signed Nichols' application had gone to Governor Harris for the appointment of Dr. Tawler as Surgion. I suppose this move fixes the appointment with certainty on Frierson and Tawler. You may show this to Dr. T. and if he is appointed and it meets your wish, I think you had better transfer John to Dr. S. W. Frierson's care. We have a sharp amount of measles and some fever and want a surgion now. Dungan is doing all his duty and is popular but does not ask or desire the surgeoncy, but will gladly accept the assistancy. He is eminently qualified for this and I now see that such an appointment is indispensable. Respects to Br. and Sister Burr. Bro. Mizell and family, also Dr. Church and family and everybody else. S. H. Jones resigns, taking effect this day; no move yet, but it may give me trouble ahead. You will hear many rumors about Kentucky, but keep cool. Mrs. Dr. Park says she will come up with you to Camp Trousdale if you conclude to come. Don't come until the present storm blows over. I will keep you posted on any secret moves--publick things you will see in the papers. I yet remain on the general Court Martial which takes much of my time. My health is about as usual Respectfully John B. Hamilton Tommie Williams and Jim Wilkins, like so man others, contracted measles at camp and were sent home to recuperate. Their absence was keenly felt by Captain Hamilton, who needed their votes in the forthcoming election. There is a feeling of helplessness in his letter. Bowling Creen Sept. 20, 1861 Dear Thomas, I am glad to learn you and James (Jim Wilkins) are better. I hope it may continue. I have not heard from John. I wish you were well enough to come, but do not risk too much. If my boys were in, even 10 of them, I could be Lt. Col. As it is, it's doubtful. Fiffle outnumbers Kinzer and me both. Polk is for me out and out. J. B. Hamilton Moe later...

Pat I never have seen a middle name or any other name associated with Valentine Bell. I'll keep checking Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [TNMAURY-L] Walker Info Rick... I inserted foot, it's not a James Bell...should have looked at my Cemetery Records of Valley Creek in Dallas Co. AL. Listed is a Robert Bell b. Chester District SC Jun 19, 1777 d. July 9, 1831. The 1831 has a question mark. Valley Creek Cemetery is located just north of Selma, near the town of Summerfield. Twin daughters of Hance Hamilton and Nancy Bell Hamilton are buried here. Louisa Manerva Hamilton Russell and Martha Jane Hamilton Maxey b. August 16, 1823. In the same plot is my gg grandfather John Bell Dungan, grandson of Hance Hamilton and Nancy Bell Hamilton. Could Valentine, the son of Valentine possibly have a first or middle name of Robert?... Pat ==== TNMAURY Mailing List ==== SOUTHERN HERITAGE NEWS & VIEWS http://southernheritage.jccalhouncenter.com/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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Descendants of Samuel Bell, MD 1 [1] Samuel BELL, MD b: February 1759 of rockbridge CO;private/major;Wash. coll alumni:1823 d: 1838 lived in Giles CO;Hebron Presby cem .. +nancy BELL from Wash/Lee manuscripts *2nd Wife of [1] Samuel BELL, MD: .. +unk CUNNINGHAM *3rd Wife of [1] Samuel BELL, MD: .. +Rebecca HAYS

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRISCOE, STONE, Harrrison, Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0hB.2ACI/298 Message Board Post: Seems that most of the Children of John Briscoe & Charity (Warren) Briscoe Rice, went from Pittsylvania Co., VA to Maury Co., TN. Would like any data on those in Maury Co., TN. Descendants of John BRISCOE --------------------------- 1-John BRISCOE b: Abt 1750-1755, Charles Co., Maryland, USA, d: 1799, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA son of George Briscoe & Mary (Warren) Briscoe Harrison Stone. +Sarah JACKSON , m: <Probably Another John> +Charity WARREN b: 9 Nov 1755, Charles Co., Maryland, USA, m: Abt 27 Sep 1785, par: Notley WARREN and Sarah |2-Sarah "Sally" BRISCOE b: 19 Mar 1787, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA, d: 22 | Oct 1839, Florence, Alabama, USA |+Jessie LEFTWICH b: 1 Jun 1775, Bedford Co., Virginia, USA, d: 22 Apr 1841, | Florence, Alabama, USA, m: 5 Jul 1804, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA, par: Augustine LEFTWICH, Jr. and Mary TURNER ||3-John B LEFTWICH ||3-Augustine J LEFTWICH ||3-Amanda W LEFTWICH ||3-Mary Louisa LEFTWICH ||3-Joel LEFTWICH ||3-Julia Ann LEFTWICH ||3-Virgnia Washington LEFTWICH ||3-Jesse George Washington LEFTWICH b: 1823, d: 1906 ||3-Sarah Briscoe LEFTWICH ||3-Lelia B LEFTWICH ||3-Adelia Emma LEFTWICH |2-Notley Warren BRISCOE b: 1788, Virginia, USA, d: 1861 |+Unknown ||3-Louisa BRISCOE b: 1814, Virginia, USA |2-John BRISCOE b: 20 Jun 1794, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA |+Agnes P. WARE , m: 16 Dec 1816, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA |+Susan LAMAR , m: 27 May 1827 |2-James Warren BRISCOE b: 1798, d: After 1861 |2-Louisa BRISCOE b: 1794, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA, d: Marshall Co., | Mississippi, USA |+Philip PENN b: 5 Mar 1792, Patrick Co., Virginia, USA, m: 22 Sep 1813, | Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA, par: Abraham PENN and Ruth STOVALL ||3-Americia PENN ||3-Charity Warren PENN b: 1825, d: 1899 |2-George BRISCOE b: 9 Jul 1792, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA, d: 14 Feb | 1836, MT Pleasant, Maury Co., Tennessee, USA, bur: 5 Miles S, Mt. Pleasant |+Nancy DABNEY , m: 2 Jan 1832, Tennessee, USA |2-Anne BRISCOE b: 2 Jun 1790, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA, d: 19 Jun 1867, | Rusk, Texas, USA +Robert WORTHAM b: 9 Sep 1786, Warren Co., North Carolina, USA, d: 1803, m: 18 Dec 1813, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia, USA, par: William WORTHAM and Thamar DUKE

Doris, I maybe guessing on this one, but this sounds like my husband's side of the family. We visited a Watkins family in Hot Springs, NC. In his line he has a James Monroe Bell who died in Cocke Co. TN. I believe this Watkins line was kin to Roberts...does this sound familiar. Pat

Rick... I inserted foot, it's not a James Bell...should have looked at my Cemetery Records of Valley Creek in Dallas Co. AL. Listed is a Robert Bell b. Chester District SC Jun 19, 1777 d. July 9, 1831. The 1831 has a question mark. Valley Creek Cemetery is located just north of Selma, near the town of Summerfield. Twin daughters of Hance Hamilton and Nancy Bell Hamilton are buried here. Louisa Manerva Hamilton Russell and Martha Jane Hamilton Maxey b. August 16, 1823. In the same plot is my gg grandfather John Bell Dungan, grandson of Hance Hamilton and Nancy Bell Hamilton. Could Valentine, the son of Valentine possibly have a first or middle name of Robert?... Pat

I'm searching for a James M. Bell who is named adm. of an estate of a Benjamin Watkins in 1839 Knox CO, TN. That estate was never administered and may have been insolvent. At any rate, the same papers may have named my ancestor, Wm. Watkins b 1805 TN. My Wm. Watkins b 1805 m in 1827 Knox CO, TN, Margaret Byerley, daughter of a SC family. I'd love to have any Watkins or Moore notes that Bell researchers may have. Doris in VA

Rick, Valentine Bell is listed in Chester Co. SC about the same time as my Nancy Bell Hamilton and I thought for a long time he could be the father, however I couldn't make a connection. Bible records of Rev. John Bell Hamilton: Nancy Bell b. Feb 7, 1779 (grandson states she was a Native of Ireland) d. Feb 14, 1862 Maury Co. TN. m. July 31, 1798 Chester District, SC Hance Hamilton. He was the son of Dr. Samuel Hamilton and Lilly Campbell. Hance and Nancy's daughter Lilly (Lilias) Hamilton Dungan was born in Rutherford Co. TN Jan 28, 1805. Thanks, Pat

I have Wades , Neely, and Carter kin in both TN and Ar, Maury TN and Conway Co Arkansas, i am interested in your lines, i am in Conway County AR. My Great grandmother is Julia Ann Neely b in Ky and her mother is Eliza Carter, Julia married John Wade in Texas after he left Conway Co AR. I am Mary Laura Wade White, and i am researching and linking them up in the 1700 and 1800 at the present, I subscribe to TN Maury=L because I have a lot of people there. Mary Laura

Pat, That definitely fits. Eva knows more about the earlier Bells than I do. She subscribes to this list too. I'll try to contact her too. I have the children of Valentine Bell and Mary Magruder as Zephaniah Bell (1769), John Bell (abt 1770), William Bell (abt 1773), James Bell (abt 1775), Fielder Bell (abt 1776), Valentine Bell (about 1777), Elizabeth Bell (about 1779), Sarah Bell (abt 1780), Nancy Bell (abt 1782), Mary Magruder Bell (abt 1783), Frances Bell (abt 1785) and Rachel Bell (abt. 1787) As you can see all the birth dates are just guessed at so the Nancy could have definitely been born a little earlier. I'll check with Eva and see if she has more and get back with you. Hopefully she will respond soon though. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [TNMAURY-L] Walker Info Rick, Valentine Bell is listed in Chester Co. SC about the same time as my Nancy Bell Hamilton and I thought for a long time he could be the father, however I couldn't make a connection. Bible records of Rev. John Bell Hamilton: Nancy Bell b. Feb 7, 1779 (grandson states she was a Native of Ireland) d. Feb 14, 1862 Maury Co. TN. m. July 31, 1798 Chester District, SC Hance Hamilton. He was the son of Dr. Samuel Hamilton and Lilly Campbell. Hance and Nancy's daughter Lilly (Lilias) Hamilton Dungan was born in Rutherford Co. TN Jan 28, 1805. Thanks, Pat ==== TNMAURY Mailing List ==== SOUTHERN HERITAGE NEWS AND VIEWS is dedicated to the preservation of Southern Heritage and to defend the honor of our Confederate ancestors. To subscribe send e-mail to: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237