Hi Belinda , Thanks for the Brothers Keeper directions. Anyone who has Brother's Keeper and wants to send the Group Sheets as text file attachments, or just pasted into an email. I will also add a note to that affect on the Group Sheet webpage and an option for that on the form. Karen [email protected] wrote: > Dear Karen- > > there is really no need to create a new form............most program will > allow you to create a txt file. The instructions for Brothers Keeper are as > follows: > > Go to Family Group Sheet > Choose beginning name of the group you need > Choose all preferences necessary > Go to File......choose Create a text file............. > Save it in My Documents or any other word file that you choose > (I chose NOTEPAD) > Then display the group sheet. > > To OPEN THE FILE......... > Go to Open Document on your start button and choose the file you created and > it will open as a text file. > This will enable you to highlight all text then ( CTRL/C.......to copy) > and (CTRL / V) to paste it in the email............... > > If you had a form for text on your web site to enter text file and submit > this would paste there as well. > Thank you......hope this helps > Belinda

Karen, Is my face ever red! After inquiring about the family group sheets, I went to the site and found mine already there!! Not sorry, tho, since seems to have stirred up some more of us to submit some! Thanks for your fine work. Dorothy Wakefield Chance BTW, I spent many happy hours in Lewisburg and Cornersville as a child and would love hearing from anyone who was around during the '40's and '50's! Ann Linton and Jane Turner were special friends. And Scrapper and Lucille Jones. And "Miss Sadie D." Jones, Scrapper's mother. At least their house has changed little since those days! I have not been able to locate where my ggrandparents are buried. Where do you go in Cornersville to seek such information? ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen in Kentucky <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [TNMARSHA] Updates > Hi Dorothy, > Wouldn't it be great if we could have all the surnames from Marshall County > represented with a Family Group Sheet! You'll find the list of Family Group > Sheets already online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/familygroup.html > to submit a group sheet the info is at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/submitgs.html > Hope to hear from you soon! > Karen > > > > > Dorothy Chance wrote: > > > Hi, I may have missed your request for family group sheets. I have a couple > > of Marshall County families I would be happy to contribute. They lived in > > Cornersville. What do I need to do? > > > > Thanks, Dorothy Wakefield Chance > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Karen in Kentucky <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 2:22 PM > > Subject: [TNMARSHA] Updates > > > > > Hi All, > > > My server appears to be working just great this morning! So I will > > > announce the newest updates to the Marshall County website. > > > > > > David Monroe South Family Bible was added this week. > > > Wills page: John Davis, Alexander Hobby and Andrew Patterson's wills > > > have recently been added. > > > Photos page: 1937 3rd grade class and 1947 graduating class from > > > Belfast School were added this morning. > > > Marriage records were last updated on the 19th of Aug. > > > Family Group Sheets: Calvin HOBBY and John FOX are the newest additions. > > > > > > There are now 16 Death records online. > > > Surnames page was updated this morning. > > > I was thinking about a cemetery database, where we could all add the > > > gravestone insriptions that we have collected. I know many of you have > > > been to Marshall County and gathered those for your family, collectively > > > we could probably have several hundred in a matter of weeks! If anyone > > > has suggestions of other things they'd like to see added to the website, > > > send them on! > > > Good Hunting, > > > Karen > > > > > > > >

Hi Charlie, I've chatted on and off with pj since she first took the Weakley pages, she's doing some fun things there! I like how she is making such a strong focus on the surnames of the county, perhaps a direction we should consider as well. Karen [email protected] wrote: > Karen, > The Weakley County, Tenn. webpage has a system which works really well. > Please check it out. You only list the names of your ancestors who actually > lived in the County at one time or another. Even though many of us can trace > one line or more back to the 1600's, it is much better to list just the ones > in Marshall County. You list the name, years of birth and death, and > relationship. You list only maiden names of female ancestors, so you don't > get confused with middle, married, and maiden names. For example: > > THOMAS > > Rachel Elizabeth THOMAS 1917-1995 Mother > Lewis D. THOMAS 1877-1946 Grandfather > Meek B. THOMAS abt. 1830-aft 1880 Great Grandfather > > MAY > > Rachel Elizabeth Thomas 1917-1995 Mother > Lewis D. Thomas 1877-1946 Grandfather > Elizabeth S. MAY abt.1837-aft. 1920 Great Grandmother > > GROOMS > > Rachel Elizabeth Thomas 1919-1995 Mother > Susan Tenny Insco 1884-1953 Grandmother > Edith W. Lewelling 1857-1901 Great Grandmother > Susan C. GROOMS 1833-aft 1890 Great Great Grandmother > Stephen Herring GROOMS 1792-1833 Great Great Great Grandfather > > This is an example of my Weakley County line, although the THOMAS and MAY > line were also from Marshall County. Hope this helps a little and is only > one idea. > All the best > Charlie Campbell > London > >

Has Marshall County, Tn. put out a county history book like many of the counties have? Thanks in advance, Lavonne in Oklahoma -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Chance <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [TNMARSHA] Updates >Karen, Is my face ever red! After inquiring about the family group sheets, >I went to the site and found mine already there!! Not sorry, tho, since >seems to have stirred up some more of us to submit some! > >Thanks for your fine work. Dorothy Wakefield Chance > >BTW, I spent many happy hours in Lewisburg and Cornersville as a child and >would love hearing from anyone who was around during the '40's and '50's! >Ann Linton and Jane Turner were special friends. And Scrapper and Lucille >Jones. And "Miss Sadie D." Jones, Scrapper's mother. At least their house >has changed little since those days! > >I have not been able to locate where my ggrandparents are buried. Where do >you go in Cornersville to seek such information? > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Karen in Kentucky <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 1:19 AM >Subject: Re: [TNMARSHA] Updates > > >> Hi Dorothy, >> Wouldn't it be great if we could have all the surnames from Marshall >County >> represented with a Family Group Sheet! You'll find the list of Family >Group >> Sheets already online at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/familygroup.html >> to submit a group sheet the info is at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/submitgs.html >> Hope to hear from you soon! >> Karen >> >> >> >> >> Dorothy Chance wrote: >> >> > Hi, I may have missed your request for family group sheets. I have a >couple >> > of Marshall County families I would be happy to contribute. They lived >in >> > Cornersville. What do I need to do? >> > >> > Thanks, Dorothy Wakefield Chance >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Karen in Kentucky <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 2:22 PM >> > Subject: [TNMARSHA] Updates >> > >> > > Hi All, >> > > My server appears to be working just great this morning! So I will >> > > announce the newest updates to the Marshall County website. >> > > >> > > David Monroe South Family Bible was added this week. >> > > Wills page: John Davis, Alexander Hobby and Andrew Patterson's wills >> > > have recently been added. >> > > Photos page: 1937 3rd grade class and 1947 graduating class from >> > > Belfast School were added this morning. >> > > Marriage records were last updated on the 19th of Aug. >> > > Family Group Sheets: Calvin HOBBY and John FOX are the newest >additions. >> > > >> > > There are now 16 Death records online. >> > > Surnames page was updated this morning. >> > > I was thinking about a cemetery database, where we could all add the >> > > gravestone insriptions that we have collected. I know many of you have >> > > been to Marshall County and gathered those for your family, >collectively >> > > we could probably have several hundred in a matter of weeks! If >anyone >> > > has suggestions of other things they'd like to see added to the >website, >> > > send them on! >> > > Good Hunting, >> > > Karen >> > > >> > > >> >> > >

Family Tree Maker will let you copy and paste the genealogy report. Below is a sample of our Marshall County family of what you will get. Thanks much, Lavonne Walker, 19505 13th Street, Shawnee, Ok. 74801 Email:[email protected] Phone 405-273-5345 or 405-273-3326 Descendants of Alphus M. "Dock" Meadows Generation No. 1 1. ALPHUS M. "DOCK" MEADOWS was born February 20, 1825 in near Cornersville, Lincoln County, Tennessee, and died August 12, 1894 in Near Talley, Marshall County, Tennessee. He married MARTHA A. SCALES August 09, 1848 in Connersville, Marshall County, Tennessee by J. P.. She was born February 24, 1831 in Lewisburg, Marshall County, Tennessee, and died June 1902 in probably Preston Bend, Grayson County, Texas, need newspaper obituary.. Notes for ALPHUS M. "DOCK" MEADOWS: Much of the information on Alphus is from his Mexican War papers. He lived near Archer, formerly Spring Place, Tennessee from 1846 to 1893. He got a land warrant and extra pay. He was at Talley, Tennessee in 1888. The soldier's discharge of Alphus says he was 5 foot, 8 inches, fair complection, gray eyes, and auburn hair. Jeanne has Alphus birth date as Feb. 20, 1826. Children of ALPHUS MEADOWS and MARTHA SCALES are: i. ORA F.3 MEADOWS, b. 1849; d. Bef. 1860. Notes for ORA F. MEADOWS: She is on the 1850 census, Marshall County, Tennessee. 2. ii. JOSEPH PERRY "JOE" MEADOWS, b. September 11, 1852, Marshall County, Tennessee; d. March 17, 1910, Grayson County, Texas where he is buried at Preston Bend.. iii. JAMES A. MEADOWS, b. 1856, Tennessee. iv. LUCINDA MEADOWS, b. 1859, Tennessee. v. FRANCES MEADOWS, b. 1861, Tennessee. vi. IDA M. "IDY" MEADOWS, b. 1864, Tennessee. 3. vii. ROBERT L. "BOB" MEADOWS, b. February 1866, Tennessee. viii. LELIA J. MEADOWS, b. 1868, Tennessee. ix. CLEMMIE MEADOWS, b. 1872. x. SOLOMON CLAUD MEADOWS, b. 1875. Generation No. 2 2. JOSEPH PERRY "JOE" MEADOWS was born September 11, 1852 in Marshall County, Tennessee, and died March 17, 1910 in Grayson County, Texas where he is buried at Preston Bend.. He married ALICE THOMPSON, daughter of JAMES THOMPSON and MARTHA GRESHAM. She was born August 20, 1863 in Preston Bend, Grayson County, Texas, and died August 12, 1912 in Preston Bend, Grayson County, Texas. Notes for JOSEPH PERRY "JOE" MEADOWS: Joseph Perry Meadows came to Texas near White mound,about 1870 (according to the History of North and West Texas). Joe and Alice lived in the famous "Glen Eden" from about 1912 to 1916. Joe and Alice Thompson Meadows are the Great, Grandparents of Donald Jack Walker. Joseph gambled quite a lot and won the "White Elephant Saloon" on night of which we have a set of dominoes that came out of it. He had a brother, Bob. His mother, Martha, came to live here according to the Mexican War pension records . Notes for ALICE THOMPSON: Her name is sometimes spelled Allis. Children of JOSEPH MEADOWS and ALICE THOMPSON are: i. ERNEST4 MEADOWS, b. August 24, 1884, Preston Bend, Grayson County, Texas; d. May 03, 1969, Madill, Marshall County, Oklahoma, and he is buried in Preston Bend Cemetery.; m. EULA HELM; b. August 02, 1887, Athens, Anderson County, Texas (Source: another source has August 2, 1886 for date of birth..); d. April 21, 1969, Denison, Grayson County, Texas and is buried in Sherman, Texas.. Notes for ERNEST MEADOWS: Ernest and Eula took their kids across Red River to school at Woodville, Ok. Ernest had inherited and ran the ferry that people used to get across Red River. Woodville was just across the river in Indian Territory or later Oklahoma. Ernest paid tuition for the kids to go to school there because it was in another state. Later when Oklahoma and Texas got together and built a bridge across the river, he took the kids in a car and didn't have to pay tuition. Then as school buses became part of the school system, a bus was sent over to pick up the kids on that side of the river. Ern, as he was often called, owned a store on the river which had earl ier started as an Indian Trading Post bought and ran by his grandfather, Judge James George Thompson in Preston Bend, Grayson County, Texas. Thompson left the property to his daughter, Alice, who married Joe Meadows, the father of Ernest. Preston Bend cemetery is located in Grayson County, Texas. Notes for EULA HELM: Mama Tinkel (Alice Helm Tinkel) told me (Lavonne Walker) that she lived with Olnder Ware at or by Davis, Indian Territory. Eula Helm Meadows, her sister lived with William R. Falkner according to the 1900 census. Their mother had died. ii. EXEY MEADOWS, b. October 18, 1882, Preston Bend, Grayson County, Texas; d. March 29, 1939, Bakersfield, Kern County, California, where he died of Pulmonary Tuberculosis. (Source: his death certificate.). -----Original Message----- From: Karen in Kentucky <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARSHA] Family Group Sheets? >Hi All, >There is no way, that I know of, to paste a group sheet from FTM in a way that >would allow me to code it for display on a webpage. Brother's Keeper will let you >do it, theirs doesn't have all the vertical and horizontal lines that FTM has. I >had considered making an online form where you could enter the data and click >submit. I can easily make one if everyone thinks it would be easier than the >method we have now. >Karen > >Paul Beatty wrote: > >> Karen and All, >> >> Is there a way to copy and paste a Family Tree Maker group sheet into a >> text file or e-mail? I can "copy" the group sheet but it won't let me >> "paste" it anywhere. Sure would be a lot easier than recopying the info. >> Thanks. >> >> Paul Beatty >> >> At 11:19 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >Hi Dorothy, >> >Wouldn't it be great if we could have all the surnames from Marshall County >> >represented with a Family Group Sheet! You'll find the list of Family Group >> >Sheets already online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/familygroup.html >> >to submit a group sheet the info is at: >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/submitgs.html >> >Hope to hear from you soon! >> >Karen > >

David: These are my crowd too -- so hi Cousin! I have William A. Bryant who married Eliza Septima Anderson Pickens October 28, 1869 in Marshall County. There was an article on this line in the Marshall County Historical Quarterly v. XI No. IV pps. 118 -125. They are both buried in Bryant Cemetery (was just there last month). Would be delighted to share anything I have on this line -- I descend from David Byers Pickens who was the father of Eliza and of my Great Grandmother Jerusha Pickens. If you want to give me your email address I can send you a copy of the article and/or send a gedcom file as an attachment to email. Best regards, Cary

Dorothy: Send me an email privately and I would be delighted to check my Cemeteries of Marshall County book. Cary

Glad I could be of assistance...........I checked my mail at work and saw the dilemma that you all were in and came home to figure out what to do. Im so happy that it was helpful. If you should need any thing else please write. Belinda

Reply to my private e-mail and let's get more details. I live in Lewisburg and will be glad to help. Let me know. C & M Taylor in TN e-mail: [email protected] On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:29:24 -0700 David Bryant <[email protected]> writes: >Do any of you folks know of anyone willing to make a SHORT 1880 Census >lookup for me. I am trying verify that my great grandfather moved >from >Lincoln Co, Tenn to Marshall Co, Tenn in the 1870-1880 timeframe. > >His name is William A. Bryant (b. 1839) and he was married to Eliza B. >I believe him to be in District No. 2 Marshall Co, TN. or possibly >District No 13 near Mooresville. > >Thanks, > >David > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Could someone tell me the location of the New Hope Cemetery and the Horton Cemetery in Marshall County, Tn. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Claude Cheatham

this is how my text file appears when I have done the previous instructions from Brother's Keeper with little to no editing to line it up 31 Aug 1999 Family Group Sheet Husband: Thomas M. Pigg #39 Born: 8 Jan 1845 in: Lewisburg, Marshall County,Tn Baptized: in: Lewisburg, Marshall County,Tn Died: 28 April 1922 in: Lewisburg, Marshall County,Tn Buried: in: Spring Place Cem. Lewisburg, Marshall Other: Cause of death in: paralysis of bowel Ref: Occupation: Farmer 2 Father: Joel Pigg #127 Mother: Penelope Bird #128 Wife: Elizabeth A. Luna #40 Married: in: Ceremony: Y Born: 12 May 1855 in: Marshall County, Tn Baptized: in: Died: 5 April 1915 in: Marshall County,Tn Buried: in: Short Cem. Marshall County,Tn Other: in: Ref: Occupation: Housewife Father: John B Luna #129 Mother: Harriet Susan Brooks #130 M Child 1 James Elbridge(Elbredge) Pigg #15 died at age: 63 Born: 28 Mar 1871 in: Marshall County, Tn Baptized: in: Lewisburg, Marshall County,Tn Died: 1 Sep 1934 in: Lewisburg, Marshall County,Tn Buried: in: Marshall County,Tn Other: in: Occupation: Farmer Spouse: Lula Mai Ealy #16 b. 30 Sep 1875 d. 22 Jul 1950 Married: 20 Nov 1892 in: Marshall County , Tn Ceremony: Y F Child 2 Minnie Josie Pigg #74 Born: 15 Jan 1874 in: Marshall County, Tn Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: Other: in: Ref: Occupation: M Child 3 Lawson Bruce Pigg #75 Born: 11 July 1876 in: Tennessee, Marshall County Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: Other: in: Ref: Occupation: Spouse: Dora M. Bigham #208 Married: in: F Child 4 Beulah Lassitte Pigg #76 Born: 14 July 1879 in: Tennessee, Marshall County Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: Other: in: Ref: Occupation: Spouse: W. Smith Alexander #102 Married: 31 Dec 1903 in: Ceremony: Y M Child 5 Thomas Shealey Pigg #77 died at age: 88 Born: 8 Oct 1882 in: Chapel Hill, Marshall County, Tn Baptized: in: Died: 1 Jun 1971 in: Buried: in: Other: in: Ref: Occupation: F Child 6 Dessie Elizabeth or Dessa L. Pigg #79 Born: 2 Mar 1886 in: Marshall County,Tennessee Baptized: in: Died: 12 Sept 1892 in: Marshall County,Tennessee Buried: in: Short Cemetery, Marshall County,Tn Other: in: Ref: Occupation: none listed M Child 7 Claude Marion Pigg #78 died at age: 81 Born: 1 Aug 1888 in: Tennessee, Marshall County Baptized: in: Died: 1970 in: Buried: in: Other: in: Ref: Occupation: Spouse: Fannie Massey #210 Married: 16 Aug 1908 in: Marshall County, Tn Ceremony: Y Divorced/Annulled/Separated: Y Year: Spouse: Anes Bonds #211 b. 12 Mar 1893 Married: in: 1 Death Records Marshall County 1922 File #296 Registered # 29 2 Marshall County Census 1879-1880 Vol. 47 E.D. 80 Sheet 7 Line 50

I think it's a great idea. Lynda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARSHA] Family Group Sheets? Karen, I think an outline--or form for us to fill in would be great--I would like to know how others feel about this, too. mCarolyn

Dear Karen- there is really no need to create a new form............most program will allow you to create a txt file. The instructions for Brothers Keeper are as follows: Go to Family Group Sheet Choose beginning name of the group you need Choose all preferences necessary Go to File......choose Create a text file............. Save it in My Documents or any other word file that you choose (I chose NOTEPAD) Then display the group sheet. To OPEN THE FILE......... Go to Open Document on your start button and choose the file you created and it will open as a text file. This will enable you to highlight all text then ( CTRL/C.......to copy) and (CTRL / V) to paste it in the email............... If you had a form for text on your web site to enter text file and submit this would paste there as well. Thank you......hope this helps Belinda

Hi All, There is no way, that I know of, to paste a group sheet from FTM in a way that would allow me to code it for display on a webpage. Brother's Keeper will let you do it, theirs doesn't have all the vertical and horizontal lines that FTM has. I had considered making an online form where you could enter the data and click submit. I can easily make one if everyone thinks it would be easier than the method we have now. Karen Paul Beatty wrote: > Karen and All, > > Is there a way to copy and paste a Family Tree Maker group sheet into a > text file or e-mail? I can "copy" the group sheet but it won't let me > "paste" it anywhere. Sure would be a lot easier than recopying the info. > Thanks. > > Paul Beatty > > At 11:19 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi Dorothy, > >Wouldn't it be great if we could have all the surnames from Marshall County > >represented with a Family Group Sheet! You'll find the list of Family Group > >Sheets already online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/familygroup.html > >to submit a group sheet the info is at: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/submitgs.html > >Hope to hear from you soon! > >Karen

Karen, Sorry I didn't mention before, but you list only direct lines, otherwise you get group sheets of hundreds of names. All the best Charlie

Karen, The Weakley County, Tenn. webpage has a system which works really well. Please check it out. You only list the names of your ancestors who actually lived in the County at one time or another. Even though many of us can trace one line or more back to the 1600's, it is much better to list just the ones in Marshall County. You list the name, years of birth and death, and relationship. You list only maiden names of female ancestors, so you don't get confused with middle, married, and maiden names. For example: THOMAS Rachel Elizabeth THOMAS 1917-1995 Mother Lewis D. THOMAS 1877-1946 Grandfather Meek B. THOMAS abt. 1830-aft 1880 Great Grandfather MAY Rachel Elizabeth Thomas 1917-1995 Mother Lewis D. Thomas 1877-1946 Grandfather Elizabeth S. MAY abt.1837-aft. 1920 Great Grandmother GROOMS Rachel Elizabeth Thomas 1919-1995 Mother Susan Tenny Insco 1884-1953 Grandmother Edith W. Lewelling 1857-1901 Great Grandmother Susan C. GROOMS 1833-aft 1890 Great Great Grandmother Stephen Herring GROOMS 1792-1833 Great Great Great Grandfather This is an example of my Weakley County line, although the THOMAS and MAY line were also from Marshall County. Hope this helps a little and is only one idea. All the best Charlie Campbell London

Karen, I suspect it has to do with the FTM group sheet being a graphics file and not a text file. I'll print one out and type the info from it to an e-mail. Thanks anyway! Paul At 11:24 AM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi All, >There is no way, that I know of, to paste a group sheet from FTM in a way that >would allow me to code it for display on a webpage. Brother's Keeper will let you >do it, theirs doesn't have all the vertical and horizontal lines that FTM has. I >had considered making an online form where you could enter the data and click >submit. I can easily make one if everyone thinks it would be easier than the >method we have now. >Karen > >Paul Beatty wrote: > >> Karen and All, >> >> Is there a way to copy and paste a Family Tree Maker group sheet into a >> text file or e-mail? I can "copy" the group sheet but it won't let me >> "paste" it anywhere. Sure would be a lot easier than recopying the info. >> Thanks. >> >> Paul Beatty >> >> At 11:19 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >Hi Dorothy, >> >Wouldn't it be great if we could have all the surnames from Marshall County >> >represented with a Family Group Sheet! You'll find the list of Family Group >> >Sheets already online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/familygroup.html >> >to submit a group sheet the info is at: >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmarsha/submitgs.html >> >Hope to hear from you soon! >> >Karen > > >

Karen, I think an outline--or form for us to fill in would be great--I would like to know how others feel about this, too. mCarolyn

Marsha I see that I made mistakes on my family sheet. Cancel this one and I will try and do better next time. Do you want who each married? Lem

In a message dated 08/31/1999 11:21:26 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I had considered making an online form where you could enter the data and click submit. I can easily make one if everyone thinks it would be easier than the method we have now. >> Karen---I vote yes. Julia