Ok... I am sure your right.. I was just wanting to share what Amanda's death record said...hopefully having the fathers name will help trace him further if you want to..thanks for the help you gave me.. Deb In a message dated 4/16/2008 7:07:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, LToney43@aol.com writes: Andy`s birthday was 11 April 1878. Andy was my stepgrandfather,we never called him step ,because he was our Daddy Smith. Mandy would be the same. **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)