Lynda you had given me info... what i wanted to share with you was Amandas death record says her birthdate was April 12, 1878.. now i know this can be off too, but i thought it was worth sharing with you..and Their father was Frank Smith and mothers maiden name was Doyle ..but no first name is listed on the certif. I was hoping to be able to share with you sense you had shared with me in the past..thanks!!! Debbie ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850)