Betty, I don't think there is any site that gives you all of the social security death info. What you are probably thinking of is the social security death index which does give you the date of birth, date of death, social security number, last address on record and the state where the social security number was issued. Just google SSDI and you will find it at the top of the list. You can then order the complete record. I have never done so but I know folks who have and some of those files are chocked full of info on the person. Last time I checked it was about $35 to 40 for that. No way to get it for free so you'll probably never see one. And those records are very scarce for deaths before the 1980's and nonexistent before 1960. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <macbetty2@peoplepc.com> To: <tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: [TNMARION] SSI death records > Does any one have the actual address where you can look state by state at the social security death certificate information? At one time Cyndi's list had it but I searched for over an hour last night and could not find the exact sight. Google has been no help -- keeps referring me to ancestry.com > The one I am looking for gives the information aprox 3 months after the death? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Barker > To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [TNMARION] -Melissa > > > Dear Debbie, > > Hello, The state of Tennessee did not require the counties to record births before 1908. However, there was an attempt to record births in most counties in the 1881-1882 time frame and some do survive and some don't. > > Now, the 4 largest counties in Tennessee which include Shelby County (Memphis), Davidson County (Nashville), Knox County (Knoxville) and Hamilton County (Chattanooga), did record births locally earlier than 1908. > > Shelby County from 1874 > Davidson County from 1881 > Knox County from 1881 > Hamilton County from 1879 > > Even though these 4 counties do have earlier births, they are by no means complete up to 1908. Also keep in mind that even though it was a law that the counties had to report births starting in 1908, not all counties reported every birth. Some fault for this lies with the county officials and poor record keeping, but most of the time it was because of the fact that most births took place at home and the family did not report to the local authorities. It is hard for us today to fathom not reporting a birth, but back then it was very common place and never given a second thought. > > With this in mind, there is a source of records called "delayed birth records" available. These records are also only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. Most of these records were produced because of Social Security. If someone was applying for Social Security they had to send in proof of their birth. Well, if they did not have an official birth certificate from the state of Tennessee they could apply for a "delayed birth record" which the state would have issued. In order to receive this type of record the person would of had to supply the state with other evidence to prove their birth. I have seen copies of Bible pages used as proof, I have also seen letters written by the persons Mother or Father that were notarized and other forms of documentation. > > So, if you can not find a birth record from the time frame of 1908-1940, it is quite possible the person could have filed for a delayed birth record. Usually by 1940 or so all counties in Tennessee were pretty consistent in reporting their births. > > Hope this helps.Sincerely,Melissa Barker > > > > > From: Debbiekgolds@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:27:24 -0400> To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNMARION] -Melissa> > what about birth records before 1908? Are they available if one was done?> > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 4:24:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > melissabarker20@hotmail.com writes:> > The State of Tennessee only allows the general public to view the original > birth certificates for the years 1908-1912. The law that requires the > counties to record births expired for the year 1913, so the counties were not > required to record births for that year. The birth certificates for the years > 1914-the present are only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. > Anyone can request a copy of a birth certificate for this time frame, > however, the Vital Records Office will require that you explain your relationship > to the person in question and you will have to supply a copy of your photo > I.D. and then the Vital Records Office will determin! > e ! > if you can receive the > record. > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? 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I did that and my google does not pull up any sight but ancestry or world connect, but yes that is the one I am looking for --. ----- Original Message ----- From: bill To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] SSI death records Betty, I don't think there is any site that gives you all of the social security death info. What you are probably thinking of is the social security death index which does give you the date of birth, date of death, social security number, last address on record and the state where the social security number was issued. Just google SSDI and you will find it at the top of the list. You can then order the complete record. I have never done so but I know folks who have and some of those files are chocked full of info on the person. Last time I checked it was about $35 to 40 for that. No way to get it for free so you'll probably never see one. And those records are very scarce for deaths before the 1980's and nonexistent before 1960. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <macbetty2@peoplepc.com> To: <tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: [TNMARION] SSI death records > Does any one have the actual address where you can look state by state at the social security death certificate information? At one time Cyndi's list had it but I searched for over an hour last night and could not find the exact sight. Google has been no help -- keeps referring me to ancestry.com > The one I am looking for gives the information aprox 3 months after the death? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Barker > To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [TNMARION] -Melissa > > > Dear Debbie, > > Hello, The state of Tennessee did not require the counties to record births before 1908. However, there was an attempt to record births in most counties in the 1881-1882 time frame and some do survive and some don't. > > Now, the 4 largest counties in Tennessee which include Shelby County (Memphis), Davidson County (Nashville), Knox County (Knoxville) and Hamilton County (Chattanooga), did record births locally earlier than 1908. > > Shelby County from 1874 > Davidson County from 1881 > Knox County from 1881 > Hamilton County from 1879 > > Even though these 4 counties do have earlier births, they are by no means complete up to 1908. Also keep in mind that even though it was a law that the counties had to report births starting in 1908, not all counties reported every birth. Some fault for this lies with the county officials and poor record keeping, but most of the time it was because of the fact that most births took place at home and the family did not report to the local authorities. It is hard for us today to fathom not reporting a birth, but back then it was very common place and never given a second thought. > > With this in mind, there is a source of records called "delayed birth records" available. These records are also only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. Most of these records were produced because of Social Security. If someone was applying for Social Security they had to send in proof of their birth. Well, if they did not have an official birth certificate from the state of Tennessee they could apply for a "delayed birth record" which the state would have issued. In order to receive this type of record the person would of had to supply the state with other evidence to prove their birth. I have seen copies of Bible pages used as proof, I have also seen letters written by the persons Mother or Father that were notarized and other forms of documentation. > > So, if you can not find a birth record from the time frame of 1908-1940, it is quite possible the person could have filed for a delayed birth record. Usually by 1940 or so all counties in Tennessee were pretty consistent in reporting their births. > > Hope this helps.Sincerely,Melissa Barker > > > > > From: Debbiekgolds@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:27:24 -0400> To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNMARION] -Melissa> > what about birth records before 1908? Are they available if one was done?> > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 4:24:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > melissabarker20@hotmail.com writes:> > The State of Tennessee only allows the general public to view the original > birth certificates for the years 1908-1912. The law that requires the > counties to record births expired for the year 1913, so the counties were not > required to record births for that year. The birth certificates for the years > 1914-the present are only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. > Anyone can request a copy of a birth certificate for this time frame, > however, the Vital Records Office will require that you explain your relationship > to the person in question and you will have to supply a copy of your photo > I.D. and then the Vital Records Office will determin! > e ! > if you can receive the > record. > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? 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