Helen I do hope you posted that to Bradley county list as I know there were quite a few Hatfields there -- There used to be an article on them on their web site but since it changed over I haven't been able to find it . Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: [TNMARION] Henry Holloway Hatfield Family |I am posting this to several list so if you are on more then one, you might | get it again. | | I am looking for researchers that are researching Henry Holloway Hatfield, | who married (1) Lucinda Thurman and then (2) Nancy Brown. He was son of Andrew | 'Andy' Warren Hatfield and Priscilla 'Pricy' Turner. Lucinda Thurman was | daughter of Ephraim Thurman and Rosannah 'Rosie' Rogers. | | I have a few questions and problems with his family. I hope someone has the | info I am needing. | | Lucinda Thurman | | b. June 27, 1818, Bledsoe Co, TN | d. Bet. 1848 - 1850, Marion Co, Tn | | She married Henry Holloway Hatfield, Bet. 1839 - 1840, Marion Co, TN. She is | 22 yrs of age and he, 17, when they married. In the 1840 census, only the | two of them are listed. But we know that Hiram H. (Holloway) Hatfield was born | Dec 1840. This would mean she was with child when the 1840 census was taken. | This makes more sense that he was her first child and they married late 1839 | or before March 1840. | | She is listed in the 1830 census with her parents. | 1830 Census of Marion Co, TN | Ephraim Thurman 121001/10101 | 1 Male under 5 yrs of age (Oliver Miller (3)) | 2 Males 5 and under 10 yrs of age (Weslay (9) and Joseph C. Thurman | (5)) | 1 Male 10 and under 15 yrs of age (Isaac Thurman (11)) | 1 Male 30 and under 40 yrs of age (Ephraim Thurman (33)) | 1 Female under 5 yrs of age (Rosa M. Thurman (NB)) | 1 Female 10 and under 15 yrs of age (Lucinda Thurman (12)) | 1 Female 20 and under 30 yrs of age (Rosa Thurman (31)) | ================================== | She is listed with husband in the 1840 census. | | 1840 Census of Marion Co, TN | Hatfield, Henry 0001/00001 | 1 Male 15 and under 20 yrs of age (Henry Hatfield (17)) | 1 Female 20 and under 30 yrs of age (Lucinda Thurman Hatfield (22)) | =============================== | After daughter, Lucinda Hatfield was born in 1848, she must have died. She | is NOT listed on the 1850 census. | Does someone have a better death date for her and where she is buried? | | =========================== | Henry Holloway Hatfield married again shortly after Lucinda's death to Nancy | Brown (b. 1832, TN), abt 1850, Marion Co, TN. | Does anyone know a better marriage date for them? Also who was Nancy Brown's | parents? | | She and Henry are listed with the first 4 children's of Lucinda's and Henry | and Nancy's first child, Obedience Caroline Hatfield. | | 1850 Census of Marion Co, TN | Household and Family #199/199 | Henry Hatfield 27 M Merchant 300 TN | Nancy Hatfield 19 F Meth TN | Hiram Hatfield 09 M TN | James M. Hatfield 07 M TN | Ephraim Hatfield 05 M TN | Lucinda Hatfield 02 F TN | Obedience Hatfield 6M F TN | ============================= | After this census, between 1855-1857, they moved on to Walker Co, GA, and | continued to have more children. As we know, like other family members, Walker | Co, GA was the place to go. I wonder if it was for the Land Lottery. Notice | the last two were born in GA and the rest in TN. And of course, Lucinda's | children are still with them. | | 1860 Census of Walker Co, GA, Upper Grove, Cedar Grove PO | Household and Family #1421/1365 | Henry Harfield 38 M Farmer 1000 400 TN | Nancy Hatfield 28 F TN | Hiram Hatfield 20 M TN | Mattason Hatfield 17 M TN | Ephraim A. Hatfield 15 M TN | Lucinda Hatfield 13 F TN | Caroline Hatfield 11 F TN | Martha Hatfield 09 F TN | Catherine Hatfield 07 F TN | Mary Hatfield 04 F GA | Josephine Hatfield 01 F GA | ============================== | This family is on the move. After 1868, they moved to AL. I believe some of | the info on this census is incorrect but I do believe that it is them. Notice | the age and place of birth for some of the children. Not quite correct. Also | all of Lucinda's children are on their own and not listed with them. | Henry's daughter, Catherine Hatfield is not listed on this census. | Did she marry or did she die? | She would have been abt 15-17 yrs of age and could have married. The last | two names listed are hard to read. They should be John S. and Murkey C. | Hatfield. | | 1870 Census of De Kalb Co, AL, Township 7, Range 8, Lebanon PO | Household and Family #6/6 | H Hatfield 48 M W Farmer 3000 515 TN | Nancy Hatfield 38 F W Keeping House TN | Martha Hatfield 18 F W TN | Caroline Hatfield 16 F W TN | Mary Hatfield 14 F W TN (In School) | Josephine Hatfield 12 F W TN (In School) | Zaney Hatfield 10 F W GA (In School) | Nancy Hatfield 08 F W GA (In School) | J. C. Hatfield 06 M W GA (In School) | Michey Hatfield 04 F W GA | =============================== | Now here is where is gets real good. Henry Holloway Hatfield died 4 yrs | after the 1870 census, May 18, 1874. I am not sure if he was living in the above | location or already had moved to ARK. Nancy is listed in the 1880 census in | ARK with 3 of her children. The last child was added in ARK and is 7 yrs of | age, born abt 1873, poss before Henry died. It states she was born in ARK so | they must have been living in ARK in 1873 and was there when Henry died. | Does someone know if he died in ARK? If so, where is he buried? | I do not know who their daughters married so I cannot follow them any | further. John S. Hatfield, who I think may have the middle name 'SUMMERFIELD' , is | listed on this census but I cannot find him after this. And of course there | is not an 1890 census to help us follow them. I cannot find Nancy after this | either. | I am hoping I can find someone to help me with the rest of this line. | I also hope to find the answer to several of my questions on this family. | Can anyone share who the daughters married and where they went? | | 1880 Census of Franklin Co, AR, Ivy | Household and Family #87/96 | Nancy HATFIELD Self W Female W 55 TN Keeping House VA NC | John S. HATFIELD S Male W 15 GA Farmer TN TN | M. C. HATFIELD S Female W 12 GA At Home TN TN | Anna HATFIELD S Female W 07 AR TN TN | ======================================================== | If anyone thinks they are related to or have info on the 4 children of Henry | and Lucinda Thurman Hatfield: Hiram H. (Holloway) Hatfield, James Mattason | Hatfield, Ephraim Andrew Hatfield and Lucinda Hatfield, please email me. I do | have more info on them and willing to share what I have. Maybe we can help | each other. | | Helen | | | | ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== | *********************************************************************** | PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, | requests for help, and other genealogical related information | that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a | possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. 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