yes by all means please wash it off -- does any one remember where the site is that had the article on what you can and can't use ? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] please don't use chalk | Whatever you use, please wash off before leaving. | Helen | | | ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== | *********************************************************************** | PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, | requests for help, and other genealogical related information | that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a | possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no | soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. | Betty McBee - list administrator-- [email protected] . | Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ | *********************************************************************** | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx | | |

Jerre Hookey sent me the following note and I do believe it is certainly important enough to pass on to all of you ------------ Betty, I went to Raulston cemetery this morning to do some weedeating around my greatgrandparents graves. Raulston cemetery in located off Hwy. 2. I don't know if the following is appropriate for the Marion county site or not. I notice as I was going to my ancestors graves someone had been in the cemetery either making pictures of grave markers, rubbings or trying to read names better. They had covered a lot of the names with carpenter's chalk or similar material. That is a don't in the does and don'ts of reading names on grave stone.

Hi, Better add in to wash off BUT NOT WITH A BRUSH... it could damage the edges of the writing too... What I read about reading info on tombstones was to use nothing... but to reflect the sun light on to it with a large mirror. Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: "macbetty" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNMARION] please don't use chalk Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:49:14 -0600 yes by all means please wash it off -- does any one remember where the site is that had the article on what you can and can't use ? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] please don't use chalk | Whatever you use, please wash off before leaving. | Helen | | | ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== | *********************************************************************** | PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, | requests for help, and other genealogical related information | that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a | possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no | soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. | Betty McBee - list administrator-- [email protected] . | Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ | *********************************************************************** | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx | | | ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== *********************************************************************** PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. Betty McBee - list administrator-- [email protected] . Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ *********************************************************************** ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

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Linda, In the 1900 census there is an Andrew J. Smith living in Franklin Co. TN. It looks like he's a II as his father is an Andrew too. He is listed with a brother named Isaac. Can't make out the mothers' name. Can send the page if you'd like. Delbert ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Census > Amanda [Mandy] md Thomas {Tom} Maritin ,they lived on South Pittsburg > Mountain when I knew them when I was a kid. > I remember 3 children > Gladys md Allison > Earl md Barnes > Ernest md Allison > I don`t know if there was anymore children or not. > > Linda Rich Toney > Have Faith ,all things are possible with God > > > > ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, > requests for help, and other genealogical related information > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a > possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no > soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. > Betty McBee - list administrator-- [email protected] . > Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ > *********************************************************************** > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Mary has joined our list -- she is the lady that I posted her messages to me on the list-- Carol you can now reply to her on the list ,if you like, and Mary welcome aboard-- I am positive you will find our group very friendly and very helpful too-- Please feel free to post at any time Betty

Amanda [Mandy] md Thomas {Tom} Maritin ,they lived on South Pittsburg Mountain when I knew them when I was a kid. I remember 3 children Gladys md Allison Earl md Barnes Ernest md Allison I don`t know if there was anymore children or not. Linda Rich Toney Have Faith ,all things are possible with God

Linda, Was Amanda (Mandy) married to a Johnston & a widow in 1920? Delbert ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 3:23 PM Subject: [TNMARION] Census > Does anyone have the 1900 Marion Co.Tn.? Ancestry 1900 is such a mess you > can`t read it.. > I am looking for Andrew {Andy } Smith bn. 1878 ,1920 Census say, Tn. I > need > to his parents name. > > In 1910 , 1920,he was in Marion Co. md to Mary ? > In 1930 he was md to my grandmother Sally Samples,Reams,Smith. > > Thanks, > Linda Rich Toney > > > > ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, > requests for help, and other genealogical related information > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a > possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no > soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. > Betty McBee - list administrator-- [email protected] . > Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ > *********************************************************************** > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I am sending three communications from a lady that is not on our list -- perhaps some one out thee will be kind enough to help her. Thanks betty ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``` Thanks so much. Yes, I've checked Marion county under various names thinking that Will maybe short for William & Joe short for Joseph, etc. But no one seemed to come close. I've done the same in Hamilton & now will try Sequatchie. Yes, please add my query to your list & I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks again, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: macbetty To: lewatkins Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: Question concerning your map on home page I will gladly put your question to the list if you like,and invite you to join us on the list as well. The map does show Bunch in Hamilton county at the time this was mapped. Have you checked their census? -- you might want to check Sequatchie as well. I presume you did already check Marion County? Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: lewatkins To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: Question concerning your map on home page On your larger image map is listed BUNCH. It is on the line between Fillmore & Daisy. Can you tell me if the name is from a family living there back then. My grand mother Ida Paris married Will Joe BUNCH around 1890 & they had two children: Maude Lee ( b. 1883 )& Tate Brady ( Brady b. 1895 ) in Tn. In 1900 I found Ida on the Jackson Couny, Al census listed as a widow. I haven't been able to find him in the census. Can you tell me where to look next? Thanks in advance, Mary

Census takers made a LOT of mistakes.....no matter what they signed off to on the last page....where they swear they have correctly counted and visited all the homes. I have in my files where in 1930 two different census takers enumerated the same homes in one part of Walker County, Tx. My g-grandparents are on one sheet with just 3 of their children and on another sheet with all 4 children, plus a son-in-law. I have several times read each census sheet for a particular county and NOT found my husband's grandfather at all.....and he WAS living there at the time. Same with my own great-grandparents in 1920. And some families simply would not talk to the census guys....especially if they were new to the country. They make lots of errors with names, and depending on who was asked the questions, other info is wrong also. If the family was not home, a neighbor may have been asked. Just consider all the possibilities when looking at census sheets (those that are legible anyway...haha). Pat --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

I believe the census taker wrote everything... All tha hand writing in all the actual census sheets I have seen are in the same handwriting.. Hence so many alternate spellings. Mistakes in data. My son-in-law's mother was born in WI but the 1930 census lists it as IL. I thkink because most of the children in the family were born in IL so he just filled in IL for all.. Dick Bloss --- macbetty <[email protected]> wrote: > you might want to keep in mind a lot of people ( > majority) could not > read nor write and so the census taker filled > in the blank spaces > for them----------------- imagine this exaggerated > scenario: You are the > wife -- you do not know how to read and barely > can sign your name, your > husband is off to work and just you and the 5 > children are home alone-- > the census taker knocks on your door ---- your > husband has told you not > to let any one in the house, so you stand at > the door -- little > Johnny is tugging at your skirt and desperately > needs changing , Mary > wants to be fed , Susie has decided since Mom is > busy now is a good > time to get into the fascinating items, Mom > forbids you in, your dinner > is boiling over on the stove --- etc. so > forth--- about this time you > are so flustered you can't remember exactly > what your name is, let > alone where your husband was born or even for > sure how old he is--- his > cousin lives down the road a piece, so the > census taker thinks well > if he was born in Ind then so must your > husband be.----- Next > time he comes 10 years latter -- most of the kids > are in school so you > can think --- keeping in mind most people were > very suspicious of any > government agency and only filled out what they > absolutely had > too------------ I know for a fact some people > used to consider it none > of the government's business where you were born > or when or anything > else about them. ----------- Besides that since > he was married more > than once perhaps he could have not told or > not even bothered to > mention it, unless she asked, the new wife > anything about where he was > born or even when ------- majority of people then > did not celebrate > their birthdays with big elaborate parties as we > sometimes do > now. -------------- > think about it -- could this be the reasoning? > > Betty > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:14 PM > Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Census > > > | That confused me the Ind. > | Andy Smith had a twin sister Amanda [Mandy] 1920 > census had her brn. Tn.Tn > | Tn. > | Andy was md and 1st had a child named Kate.2nd > marriage my grandmother > Sally > | Samples,Reams, Smith. > | Andy had 2 sisters Rose md Poe, Sally > [Sal]mdMcCollum they lived around > | Jasper. > | Andy lived on South Pittsburg mountain. and Orme. > | Andy and Sally had 3 children . Catherine, Andrew, > Ruth Smith Hargis. > | > | Thanks, > | Linda Rich Toney > | > | > | > | ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== > | > *********************************************************************** > | PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and > replies, comments, > | requests for help, and other genealogical related > information > | that is of interest to researchers having a > connection or a > | possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. > There is no > | soliciting or advertising of any item or service > for sale allowed. > | Betty McBee - list administrator-- > [email protected] . > | Marion County Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ > | > *********************************************************************** > | > | ============================== > | View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > your ancestors, find > | marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > | http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > | > | > | > > > > ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, > comments, > requests for help, and other genealogical related > information > that is of interest to researchers having a > connection or a > possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. > There is no > soliciting or advertising of any item or service > for sale allowed. > Betty McBee - list administrator-- > [email protected] . > Marion County Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ > *********************************************************************** > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

you might want to keep in mind a lot of people ( majority) could not read nor write and so the census taker filled in the blank spaces for them----------------- imagine this exaggerated scenario: You are the wife -- you do not know how to read and barely can sign your name, your husband is off to work and just you and the 5 children are home alone-- the census taker knocks on your door ---- your husband has told you not to let any one in the house, so you stand at the door -- little Johnny is tugging at your skirt and desperately needs changing , Mary wants to be fed , Susie has decided since Mom is busy now is a good time to get into the fascinating items, Mom forbids you in, your dinner is boiling over on the stove --- etc. so forth--- about this time you are so flustered you can't remember exactly what your name is, let alone where your husband was born or even for sure how old he is--- his cousin lives down the road a piece, so the census taker thinks well if he was born in Ind then so must your husband be.----- Next time he comes 10 years latter -- most of the kids are in school so you can think --- keeping in mind most people were very suspicious of any government agency and only filled out what they absolutely had too------------ I know for a fact some people used to consider it none of the government's business where you were born or when or anything else about them. ----------- Besides that since he was married more than once perhaps he could have not told or not even bothered to mention it, unless she asked, the new wife anything about where he was born or even when ------- majority of people then did not celebrate their birthdays with big elaborate parties as we sometimes do now. -------------- think about it -- could this be the reasoning? Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Census | That confused me the Ind. | Andy Smith had a twin sister Amanda [Mandy] 1920 census had her brn. Tn.Tn | Tn. | Andy was md and 1st had a child named Kate.2nd marriage my grandmother Sally | Samples,Reams, Smith. | Andy had 2 sisters Rose md Poe, Sally [Sal]mdMcCollum they lived around | Jasper. | Andy lived on South Pittsburg mountain. and Orme. | Andy and Sally had 3 children . Catherine, Andrew, Ruth Smith Hargis. | | Thanks, | Linda Rich Toney | | | | ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== | *********************************************************************** | PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, | requests for help, and other genealogical related information | that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a | possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no | soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. | Betty McBee - list administrator-- [email protected] . | Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ | *********************************************************************** | | ============================== | View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find | marriage announcements and more. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx | | |

That confused me the Ind. Andy Smith had a twin sister Amanda [Mandy] 1920 census had her brn. Tn.Tn Tn. Andy was md and 1st had a child named Kate.2nd marriage my grandmother Sally Samples,Reams, Smith. Andy had 2 sisters Rose md Poe, Sally [Sal]mdMcCollum they lived around Jasper. Andy lived on South Pittsburg mountain. and Orme. Andy and Sally had 3 children . Catherine, Andrew, Ruth Smith Hargis. Thanks, Linda Rich Toney

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pitman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yhB.2ACI/265.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the info on John & Amanda Pitman, that pretty much confirms what I was thinking about this family. Do you have any more info on this Pitman family? I would greatly appreciate it. Cyndi

Linda, Confused, 1 census says Andy was born in TN & 1 says IND. 1900 census Rhea Co. TN has Andy W. Smith b. Aug. 1878 with wife Roda b. Sept. 1881. 1880 census Ohio Co. IND. has: Casper H. Smith age 30 b. Germany Mary Smith age 24 b. IND Frank H. Smith age 6 b. IND Louesa S. Smith age 4 b. IND Andy G. Smith age 2 b. IND Anna Randolph age 14 b. IND Hope this helps. Delbert ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 3:23 PM Subject: [TNMARION] Census > Does anyone have the 1900 Marion Co.Tn.? Ancestry 1900 is such a mess you > can`t read it.. > I am looking for Andrew {Andy } Smith bn. 1878 ,1920 Census say, Tn. I > need > to his parents name. > > In 1910 , 1920,he was in Marion Co. md to Mary ? > In 1930 he was md to my grandmother Sally Samples,Reams,Smith. > > Thanks, > Linda Rich Toney > > > > ==== TNMARION Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, > requests for help, and other genealogical related information > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a > possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no > soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. > Betty McBee - list administrator-- [email protected] . > Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ > *********************************************************************** > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Does anyone have the 1900 Marion Co.Tn.? Ancestry 1900 is such a mess you can`t read it.. I am looking for Andrew {Andy } Smith bn. 1878 ,1920 Census say, Tn. I need to his parents name. In 1910 , 1920,he was in Marion Co. md to Mary ? In 1930 he was md to my grandmother Sally Samples,Reams,Smith. Thanks, Linda Rich Toney

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pitman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yhB.2ACI/265.1 Message Board Post: There is a John & Amanda with a son Charles age 1 in Pulaski Co KY in 1850. This is not my Pitman line but thought it might be yours.--MarieB 1850 Pulaski Co. KY Div 2 pg 134 Dwelling 555 Family 555 John Pitman 20 M Farmer $150 KY Amanda Pitman 19 F Charles 1 M Nancy Garret? 40 F

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yhB.2ACI/265 Message Board Post: I am looking for a John C. Pitman that may have been born in Marion Co, TN in about 1830's. He is believed to have married Amanda Fry (possibly in Pulaski Co., KY). I believe he may be the father to a Charles S Pitman, born 1850 in Pulaksi Co, KY; who is my gr-gr-gr-grandfather. John C. Pitman's parents are possibly John Pitman (Pittman) born NC, and Nancy Brooks. Can anyone help me find the info on this John Pitman? Thank you!

Hello all...I got this from another list and thought that some of you might be interested too. Donna ---------------------------------------------------- Tonight, 25 July 2005, at 8:00 p.m. on public television on History Detectives are investigating a great mystery in Decatur, Tennessee, which involves a woman of Cherokee descent who inherited a mysterious bible from her father. She is intrigued by what appears to be Cherokee writing in the bible, and wants to learn more about her own family's history. This native language was invented by the Cherokee Indian Sequoia in the early 1800s in a desperate effort to win the respect of the U.S. authorities for his people. While Sequoia succeeded in establishing literacy rates far in excess of the encroaching white settlers, the Cherokee were ultimately forced to march on the infamous "Trial of Tears" to Oklahoma. History Detectives learns more about one of the most tragic events in U. S. history as they head to Oklahoma and Tennessee to tackle the genealogical mystery behind the bible. http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/