Does any one have the actual address where you can look state by state at the social security death certificate information? At one time Cyndi's list had it but I searched for over an hour last night and could not find the exact sight. Google has been no help -- keeps referring me to ancestry.com The one I am looking for gives the information aprox 3 months after the death? ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa Barker To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] -Melissa Dear Debbie, Hello, The state of Tennessee did not require the counties to record births before 1908. However, there was an attempt to record births in most counties in the 1881-1882 time frame and some do survive and some don't. Now, the 4 largest counties in Tennessee which include Shelby County (Memphis), Davidson County (Nashville), Knox County (Knoxville) and Hamilton County (Chattanooga), did record births locally earlier than 1908. Shelby County from 1874 Davidson County from 1881 Knox County from 1881 Hamilton County from 1879 Even though these 4 counties do have earlier births, they are by no means complete up to 1908. Also keep in mind that even though it was a law that the counties had to report births starting in 1908, not all counties reported every birth. Some fault for this lies with the county officials and poor record keeping, but most of the time it was because of the fact that most births took place at home and the family did not report to the local authorities. It is hard for us today to fathom not reporting a birth, but back then it was very common place and never given a second thought. With this in mind, there is a source of records called "delayed birth records" available. These records are also only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. Most of these records were produced because of Social Security. If someone was applying for Social Security they had to send in proof of their birth. Well, if they did not have an official birth certificate from the state of Tennessee they could apply for a "delayed birth record" which the state would have issued. In order to receive this type of record the person would of had to supply the state with other evidence to prove their birth. I have seen copies of Bible pages used as proof, I have also seen letters written by the persons Mother or Father that were notarized and other forms of documentation. So, if you can not find a birth record from the time frame of 1908-1940, it is quite possible the person could have filed for a delayed birth record. Usually by 1940 or so all counties in Tennessee were pretty consistent in reporting their births. Hope this helps.Sincerely,Melissa Barker > From: Debbiekgolds@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:27:24 -0400> To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNMARION] -Melissa> > what about birth records before 1908? Are they available if one was done?> > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 4:24:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > melissabarker20@hotmail.com writes:> > The State of Tennessee only allows the general public to view the original > birth certificates for the years 1908-1912. The law that requires the > counties to record births expired for the year 1913, so the counties were not > required to record births for that year. The birth certificates for the years > 1914-the present are only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. > Anyone can request a copy of a birth certificate for this time frame, > however, the Vital Records Office will require that you explain your relationship > to the person in question and you will have to supply a copy of your photo > I.D. and then the Vital Records Office will determine ! if you can receive the > record. > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? 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If Betty wasn't in trouble she wouldn't be Betty LOL To my understanding this fellow Phillip Gowan can obtain the certificates for you at quite a reasonable price. I have run into the same problem as you have with obtaining one. Mac's Great Grandmother must not of died as we can't find her death certificate in two counties ,nor where she was buried or who she was living with when she died , let alone which funeral home ? I know it is and was a common practice for relatives to dig the graves so perhaps a funeral home was not involved? ---- There just isn't a record for her. Now I know she was stubborn but hey she would be over 160 years old now. We have all kinds of rumors as to where and when and who she was living with but NO PROOF and she probably is buried in an unmarked grave. . Probably never will either. ----- Original Message ----- From: tn_nanny@bellsouth.net To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Death Cert in Marion Co Tn LOL , Betty is in trouble again. Well now I get into hunting the death cert .But when you go to the library they tell me that after 50 years have to go to the state archives to get them. all this private stuff hurts the genealogy. But I work on trying to go thru the funeral homes and that is getting hard too. Some will give you a whole file copy of the files and some will say we don't have them anymore. Some will says we will find and mail to you then you wait about 3 months and still nothing. Instead of comming right out say We aren't handling them out anymore. So what do you do. drive to State Archives? Lol with the gas hum. and some prices so retared person like me can't afford. Bill will catch that watch and see.Now is that is why the charges are so high?. But we keep working tring to find our family history. I love doing mine but it's getting harder that is for sure.Go for it Betty I agree. :~( if you can't get to Nashville there are some folks who will do it for you for a couple of bucks. There used to be one such lady on this list. I think Betty ran her off for advertising her services. Betty doesn't believe in paying for genealogy info. :o) > Bill Mc ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They do for me. This only applies to the delayed BC's. I don't know if I'm coming across some really benevolent people or if they won the lottery or something but they've answered every request I've put in for delayed BC's. I must have held my tongue right, I'm thinkin'. <big grin> Stubby T Debbiekgolds@aol.com wrote: they will look prior to you sending in money and a request? In a message dated 4/3/2008 5:20:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stubbytate@yahoo.com writes: As an FYI: The TN Vital records site has an email address you can use to inquire about a delayed birth certificate for a relative. I've used this service many times and, if they find one, you can ask to get a copy. They will tell you their current fees for the service. So convenient! Stubby T **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

You can also do a search at www.genealogybank.com. I use both sites to cross-reference each other's information. Stubby T Barbara Turner <turner.barbara@gmail.com> wrote: www.familysearch.org has the SSI free on there. You just put the name and country and state in and they are at the bottom of the search results. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:01 PM, wrote: > Does any one have the actual address where you can look state by state > at the social security death certificate information? At one time > Cyndi's list had it but I searched for over an hour last night and could > not find the exact sight. Google has been no help -- keeps referring me > to ancestry.com > The one I am looking for gives the information aprox 3 months after the > death? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Barker > To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [TNMARION] -Melissa > > > Dear Debbie, > > Hello, The state of Tennessee did not require the counties to record > births before 1908. However, there was an attempt to record births in most > counties in the 1881-1882 time frame and some do survive and some don't. > > Now, the 4 largest counties in Tennessee which include Shelby County > (Memphis), Davidson County (Nashville), Knox County (Knoxville) and Hamilton > County (Chattanooga), did record births locally earlier than 1908. > > Shelby County from 1874 > Davidson County from 1881 > Knox County from 1881 > Hamilton County from 1879 > > Even though these 4 counties do have earlier births, they are by no means > complete up to 1908. Also keep in mind that even though it was a law that > the counties had to report births starting in 1908, not all counties > reported every birth. Some fault for this lies with the county officials > and poor record keeping, but most of the time it was because of the fact > that most births took place at home and the family did not report to the > local authorities. It is hard for us today to fathom not reporting a birth, > but back then it was very common place and never given a second thought. > > With this in mind, there is a source of records called "delayed birth > records" available. These records are also only available through the > Tennessee Vital Records Office. Most of these records were produced because > of Social Security. If someone was applying for Social Security they had to > send in proof of their birth. Well, if they did not have an official birth > certificate from the state of Tennessee they could apply for a "delayed > birth record" which the state would have issued. In order to receive this > type of record the person would of had to supply the state with other > evidence to prove their birth. I have seen copies of Bible pages used as > proof, I have also seen letters written by the persons Mother or Father that > were notarized and other forms of documentation. > > So, if you can not find a birth record from the time frame of 1908-1940, > it is quite possible the person could have filed for a delayed birth record. > Usually by 1940 or so all counties in Tennessee were pretty consistent in > reporting their births. > > Hope this helps.Sincerely,Melissa Barker > > > > > From: Debbiekgolds@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:27:24 -0400> To: > tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNMARION] -Melissa> > what about birth > records before 1908? Are they available if one was done?> > > In a message > dated 4/3/2008 4:24:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > melissabarker20@hotmail.com writes:> > The State of Tennessee only allows > the general public to view the original > birth certificates for the years > 1908-1912. The law that requires the > counties to record births expired for > the year 1913, so the counties were not > required to record births for that > year. The birth certificates for the years > 1914-the present are only > available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. > Anyone can request a > copy of a birth certificate for this time frame, > however, the Vital > Records Office will require that you explain your relationship > to the > person in question and you will have to supply a copy of your photo > I.D. > and then the Vital Records Office will determin! > e ! > if you can receive the > record. > > > > > > > **************Planning > your summer road trip? 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As an FYI: The TN Vital records site has an email address you can use to inquire about a delayed birth certificate for a relative. I've used this service many times and, if they find one, you can ask to get a copy. They will tell you their current fees for the service. So convenient! Stubby T Melissa Barker <melissabarker20@hotmail.com> wrote: Dear Debbie, Hello, The state of Tennessee did not require the counties to record births before 1908. However, there was an attempt to record births in most counties in the 1881-1882 time frame and some do survive and some don't. Now, the 4 largest counties in Tennessee which include Shelby County (Memphis), Davidson County (Nashville), Knox County (Knoxville) and Hamilton County (Chattanooga), did record births locally earlier than 1908. Shelby County from 1874 Davidson County from 1881 Knox County from 1881 Hamilton County from 1879 Even though these 4 counties do have earlier births, they are by no means complete up to 1908. Also keep in mind that even though it was a law that the counties had to report births starting in 1908, not all counties reported every birth. Some fault for this lies with the county officials and poor record keeping, but most of the time it was because of the fact that most births took place at home and the family did not report to the local authorities. It is hard for us today to fathom not reporting a birth, but back then it was very common place and never given a second thought. With this in mind, there is a source of records called "delayed birth records" available. These records are also only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. Most of these records were produced because of Social Security. If someone was applying for Social Security they had to send in proof of their birth. Well, if they did not have an official birth certificate from the state of Tennessee they could apply for a "delayed birth record" which the state would have issued. In order to receive this type of record the person would of had to supply the state with other evidence to prove their birth. I have seen copies of Bible pages used as proof, I have also seen letters written by the persons Mother or Father that were notarized and other forms of documentation. So, if you can not find a birth record from the time frame of 1908-1940, it is quite possible the person could have filed for a delayed birth record. Usually by 1940 or so all counties in Tennessee were pretty consistent in reporting their births. Hope this helps.Sincerely,Melissa Barker > From: Debbiekgolds@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:27:24 -0400> To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNMARION] -Melissa> > what about birth records before 1908? Are they available if one was done?> > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 4:24:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > melissabarker20@hotmail.com writes:> > The State of Tennessee only allows the general public to view the original > birth certificates for the years 1908-1912. The law that requires the > counties to record births expired for the year 1913, so the counties were not > required to record births for that year. The birth certificates for the years > 1914-the present are only available through the Tennessee Vital Records Office. > Anyone can request a copy of a birth certificate for this time frame, > however, the Vital Records Office will require that you explain your relationship > to the person in question and you will have to supply a copy of your photo > I.D. and then the Vital Records Office will determine ! if you can receive the > record. > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? 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I had a similar experience. They said I wasn't entitled to cause of death, so that's why they wouldn't send me the copy. I re-sent the form and left the "show cause of death" box unchecked; they kept my money, but promptly returned a letter saying they had no record of that death certificate. I waited a couple of years until that year was added to the Archives files. It happened that I was in Nashville just after that year was sent to them and I could find no record of my GG-grandmother's death. Maybe we're off on the year, or maybe that's just their way of telling us not keep trying back because they lost the records! ;) If you want to contact me off the list, I do have the name of someone who goes to Nashville and will look up records for you for a reasonable fee. Donna obrien729@sbcglobal.net Debbiekgolds@aol.com wrote: It was from the vital records dept in Nashville said If you are not directly related ( parent, child or spouse) and cannot demonstrate a legal interest in the record you are requesting, you are only entitled to a "Verification of Informant ion". Please complete the attached form and return with the fee of $12.00( Cause of death cannot be verified) Those are the exact words. I sent saying I was needed a copy, gave name, dates and they had also said I had to have a copy of a government issued ID, so I copied my drivers license , sent my money and got this letter back...any suggestions for me would be appreciated. Amanda has been a brick wall for me for over 2 years. thanks Debbie In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:06:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wmcconne@bellsouth.net writes: Interesting! You can go to the Tennessee Library & Archives in Nashville and make a copy yourself for 25 cents and no questions asked. Bill Mc **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

so the only way to view these further would be at a library or maybe the family search centers? In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:44:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wmcconne@bellsouth.net writes: Pardon me for replying to the wrong message but it's the only one I've received from the list today. I know there are many others as I have been reading them on the rootsweb site. I have used the Soundex which I think is another term for the Miracode Index. There is an individual card for each household and lists who all lives in the house and other interesting info. It's been awhile but as I recall there is sometimes information on the card that doesn't appear in the census records. It's somewhat of a pain as the cards are on microfilm. Bill Mc **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

ok thanks Bill In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:46:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wmcconne@bellsouth.net writes: I don't recall seeing any birth records at the Library. Bill **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Ok I found the name in my McBee, files it is Philip Gowan to order death certificates at phillipgowan@yahoo.com I haven't tried lately but I think it is still the same.

well that explains it! Thanks Bill!!! I am starting to understand more on how all of this works...if I need a copy of a death record..over 50 years old. I should check Library Archives, how about birth records? Is it the same? In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:31:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wmcconne@bellsouth.net writes: I seem to be back to only getting about 10% of the messages posted so it's hard to keep up with the conversation. I just wanted to mention that the dept of vital statistics doesn't have that death certificate anyway. They only keep the last 50 yrs. After that they go to the Tennessee Library & Archives and are put on microfilm. Sounds like you've been dealing with a typical state employee. "You can't have it unless you jump through some hoops for me after which I will tell you that we don't have it anyway". Bill Mc -------------- **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

All of this chit chat is making me want to drink a tall glass of prune juice! LOL, Tony -----Original Message----- From: tnmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of macbetty2@peoplepc.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:23 PM To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Death Cert in Marion Co Tn you bet he know this and yes Bill and Iley both like to rattle my chain to keep me on my toes --- LOL but I answered in case there are some new ones that just might believe him that I am a mean ole lady LOL I sure don't mind if the actual price exchange is done off the list. There is a fellow that Euline knows that does death certificates for al over the US for a nominal fee-- cheaper than the afore mentioned amount but I can't remember his name. I know it is in the archives if you wanted to search through them for it. Perhaps Euline will pop on and give us his name and email address again? ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbiekgolds@aol.com To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Death Cert in Marion Co Tn Betty I saw Bills little smiley face.. I bet he knows this..was just wanting to pull your pig tales today! In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:14:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, macbetty2@peoplepc.com writes: Bill rootsweb does not allow it is why I don't allow it. I don't want my neck chopped off for not complying and loose the list **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000 016) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I may have just gotten his name... and he is willing to look into it for me...Thanks Betty! And sense I seem to be the one with all of the questions lately... I have another one...what is Miracode Index? I have found something in Ky that is Miracode Indexed and I am wondering if there is more than what they display ?If you can get a full view of the original?? Am I making sense? In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:26:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, macbetty2@peoplepc.com writes: you bet he know this and yes Bill and Iley both like to rattle my chain to keep me on my toes --- LOL but I answered in case there are some new ones that just might believe him that I am a mean ole lady LOL I sure don't mind if the actual price exchange is done off the list. There is a fellow that Euline knows that does death certificates for al over the US for a nominal fee-- cheaper than the afore mentioned amount but I can't remember his name. I know it is in the archives if you wanted to search through them for it. Perhaps Euline will pop on and give us his name and email address again? **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

wondered why you were so quiet--LOL I was not aware of that change. Good to find out before we waste our money. I have been scanning the archives looking for the fellow Euline suggested. I believe he was in a different state. ----- Original Message ----- From: Iley To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Death Cert in Marion Co Tn I think the birth records were put off limits years ago,unless you were a direct decendant and could prove it,and since 9/11 you are just out of luck ,unless you are alive and breathing and can prove you are the person on the cerftic. iley ps betty i anit pulled on your chain all day,been alseeap in my chair ----- Original Message ----- From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> To: <tnmarion@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Death Cert in Marion Co Tn >I don't recall seeing any birth records at the Library. > > Bill Mc > -------------- Original message from "Darlene" > <darlene@adweb.net>: -------------- > > >> Can someone tell us how you get a Death Cert of Your >> GrGrandmother...Debbie >> sent for Amanda Martin's Death in Cert she died Jan 9 1951 and They told >> her >> she was not directly related had to be Mother, Father, Spouse close >> relatives .... >> Darlene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Help with surnames Smith and Martin >> >> >> > forgot to add on the 1920 also shows a Samples and another smith family >> > ..with Andy as head of house living next door. >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 4/3/2008 10:37:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> > darlene@adweb.net writes: >> > >> > Debbie & Linda >> > It appears that Matilda Smith -Turner -Martin had two boys named Ernest >> > the 1930 Census Marion Co List a son age 15 be born 1915 to her & >> > Thomas >> > Martin or something is wrong >> > the 1920 Cen Marion co shows a Ernest Turner age 14 listed as a Stepson >> to >> > Thomas Martin and believe Ernest's name appears on 1910 Cen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel >> > Guides. >> > >> (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, >> > requests for help, and other genealogical related information >> > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a >> > possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. 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Betty I saw Bills little smiley face.. I bet he knows this..was just wanting to pull your pig tales today! In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:14:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, macbetty2@peoplepc.com writes: Bill rootsweb does not allow it is why I don't allow it. I don't want my neck chopped off for not complying and loose the list **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

BETTY!!! LOL.. is there anyone here on the list now who can help me with this?? In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:11:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wmcconne@bellsouth.net writes: BTW, if you can't get to Nashville there are some folks who will do it for you for a couple of bucks. There used to be one such lady on this list. I think Betty ran her off for advertising her services. Betty doesn't believe in paying for genealogy info. :o) Bill Mc **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

It was from the vital records dept in Nashville said If you are not directly related ( parent, child or spouse) and cannot demonstrate a legal interest in the record you are requesting, you are only entitled to a "Verification of Informant ion". Please complete the attached form and return with the fee of $12.00( Cause of death cannot be verified) Those are the exact words. I sent saying I was needed a copy, gave name, dates and they had also said I had to have a copy of a government issued ID, so I copied my drivers license , sent my money and got this letter back...any suggestions for me would be appreciated. Amanda has been a brick wall for me for over 2 years. thanks Debbie In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:06:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wmcconne@bellsouth.net writes: Interesting! You can go to the Tennessee Library & Archives in Nashville and make a copy yourself for 25 cents and no questions asked. Bill Mc **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mkmmvi Surnames: Miller, Black Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.marion/744/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on Fred/Frederick Black, possibly from Marion County. All I know about him is that he was the 2nd husband of Laura H. Miller. In 1930 Marion Co., census she was a widow living in the Sequatchie area. If this rings a bell with anyone would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks MK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

ohhhhhhh... now see how new searchers overlook things.. i have seen both census reports and NEVER picked up the fact that there may be 2 Ernest boys in the family... Darlene Thank you!!! I will look again.. and i hope all of you who have helped me so much realize you all taking the time to help, pointing out things such as this really teaches those like me to be more observant!!! deb In a message dated 4/3/2008 12:02:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, darlene@adweb.net writes: 1930 Census Thomas Martin & Amanda shows a Earnest Martin age 15 be born abt 1915 so it would appear that Seems Amanda named two Children Ernest....or that Ernest on the 1930 Census would be age 25 rather than 15 as noted. Darlene **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

I am still trying to get up off the floor from laughing,Tony LOL Bill is right though -- but to be fair, not all are like that. While we are on the subject -- the information contained on them should only be taken as generalized and not the gospel-- Every one I have seen does contain some clues that do help though.-- I know even my Mother-in-laws is wrong -- the emotions that are ragging at the shock of death , no matter how prepared you are for it , can make you just plain not think straight. A cousin was put down as a brother and my Husbands name was put down wrong by his older sister as well. That is just one example of many. Some times they just guessed at the answer or just plain don't know and must put down something. ----- Original Message ----- From: wmcconne@bellsouth.net To: tnmarion@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Death Cert in Marion Co Tn I seem to be back to only getting about 10% of the messages posted so it's hard to keep up with the conversation. I just wanted to mention that the dept of vital statistics doesn't have that death certificate anyway. They only keep the last 50 yrs. After that they go to the Tennessee Library & Archives and are put on microfilm. Sounds like you've been dealing with a typical state employee. "You can't have it unless you jump through some hoops for me after which I will tell you that we don't have it anyway". Bill Mc -------------- Original message from "Darlene" <darlene@adweb.net>: -------------- > Can someone tell us how you get a Death Cert of Your GrGrandmother...Debbie > sent for Amanda Martin's Death in Cert she died Jan 9 1951 and They told her > she was not directly related had to be Mother, Father, Spouse close > relatives .... > Darlene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:24 AM > Subject: Re: [TNMARION] Help with surnames Smith and Martin > > > > forgot to add on the 1920 also shows a Samples and another smith family > > ..with Andy as head of house living next door. > > > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2008 10:37:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > darlene@adweb.net writes: > > > > Debbie & Linda > > It appears that Matilda Smith -Turner -Martin had two boys named Ernest > > the 1930 Census Marion Co List a son age 15 be born 1915 to her & Thomas > > Martin or something is wrong > > the 1920 Cen Marion co shows a Ernest Turner age 14 listed as a Stepson > to > > Thomas Martin and believe Ernest's name appears on 1910 Cen > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, > > requests for help, and other genealogical related information > > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a > > possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no > > soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. > > Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com > > Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, > requests for help, and other genealogical related information > that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a > possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no > soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. > Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com > Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE NOTE: This list is for queries and replies, comments, requests for help, and other genealogical related information that is of interest to researchers having a connection or a possible connection to Marion County, Tennessee. There is no soliciting or advertising of any item or service for sale allowed. Betty McBee - list administrator-- macbetty2@peoplepc.com Marion County Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmario2/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNMARION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

forgot to add on the 1920 also shows a Samples and another smith family ..with Andy as head of house living next door. In a message dated 4/3/2008 10:37:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, darlene@adweb.net writes: Debbie & Linda It appears that Matilda Smith -Turner -Martin had two boys named Ernest the 1930 Census Marion Co List a son age 15 be born 1915 to her & Thomas Martin or something is wrong the 1920 Cen Marion co shows a Ernest Turner age 14 listed as a Stepson to Thomas Martin and believe Ernest's name appears on 1910 Cen **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)