Mur, Thanks for the info on James son of "Dink". Yes, I have Elnora SHOULDERS as the d/o Henry Ensley SHOULDERS and Sara C. Buie. Where did you find Elnora's birth date? Thanks!! Bobby L. Netta Mullins has a file on Rootsweb Worldconnect that has the dates of Henry & Sarah's children. ID: I232 Name: Henry Ensley SHOULDERS Sex: M Birth: 22 Jul 1832 in Smith Co, TN Death: 7 Feb 1908 Father: John Jack SHOULDERS b: 1804-1806 in Smith Co, TN Mother: Catherine Ann NASH b: 1806 in Smith Co, TN Marriage 1 Sarah Sallie C. BUIE b: 22 Oct 1840 in TN Married: 4 Oct 1858 in Smith Co, TN Children Mary Susan Dump SHOULDERS b: 12 Sep 1859 James M. SHOULDERS b: 21 Mar 1861 Elnora SHOULDERS b: 16 Jun 1863 John Wilson SHOULDERS b: 20 Feb 1865 Elizabeth Betty Ann SHOULDERS b: 20 Jan 1867 Tennessee Tennie SHOULDERS b: 1 Sep 1868 Ira Pleame SHOULDERS b: 12 Feb 1871 Cynthia Jane SHOULDERS b: 12 Dec 1872 Raney Agnes SHOULDERS b: 23 Feb 1875 Delia Frances SHOULDERS b: 21 Jan 1878 Lunia May SHOULDERS b: 22 Mar 1879 William Casper SHOULDERS b: 28 Jul 1883 Murry!