Anna, Yes, Mary J., Henr Elbridge, & Nathaniel are the children of Pleasant Henry and Harriet B. Cage Butrum. James David, William Thomas, Lucy, Rachel A., Benjamin Allen, Jacob B., Pleasant Henry, Jr., John Jackson & Bishop Alvin are the children of Pleasant Henry & Lucinda Drive Butrum. Am I spelling 'Butrum' correctly? I notice you spell your name differently. I have the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910 Macon County Census Books, also the "Macon County, Tennessee History & Families" book. I am still going through all of this material. Do you have the spouse's name for Mary J., Lucy, Rachel A. Bishop Alvin? Also the death date of Lucinda Driver Butrum. Thanks for any help you can provide. Nita Lovelady Lawing ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna L Bertram<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net> To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM Nita, Thank you! Yes these names are familiar. Most of them are sons of Pleasant and Lucinda BUTRAM or Pleasant and Harriet Cage BUTRAM. May I help you with information on any of them? I may have details you don't. Appreciate it! Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nita Lawing" <TNAncestor@msn.com<mailto:TNAncestor@msn.com>> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM > Anna, > I have some Butrams in my collaterals: > > Benjamin Allen, Bishop Alvin, Eva Mabel, Henry Elbridge, Jacob B., James David, John Jackson, John S., Lucinda, Lucy, Mary, Nathaniel, Pleasant Henry, Pleasant Henry, Jr., Rachel A., Sarah, Wiley J., William, William Thomas BUTRAMS. Are any of these names familiar? Thanks. > > Nita Lovelady Lawing > Sahuarita, AZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anna L Bertram<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net>> > To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:43 AM > Subject: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM > > > Sandy, > > Are you researching MINTZ MINCE? If so, could it also have been spelled > MOUNCE and MOUNTS or MOUNTZ at one time? > > I am a BUTRAM researcher but have reason why I am interested in this < M > > name! > > Anna Bertram > > ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET<mailto:ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET<mailto:ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET<mailto:ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sandym717 > > I have a Mary (Martha) West that was married to William Mintz/Mince in > Smith > > Co., Tn, she was the daughter of Rubin J. West and Midia Bryant, do you > know > > anything about this family? > > > > Sandy > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Connect to distant cousins! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > SHARE YOUR MACON COUNTY FAMILY DATA WITH OTHERS AND CONNECT TO DISTANT COUSINS.... > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Nita, It is my pleasure to exchange information with you on the family of Pleasant BUTRAM (1812-1885) and his two wives. First may I ask the source for a middle name for Pleasant? I have never before seen even a middle initial for him although he did name one son Pleasant Henry and another Henry Elbridge. The < B > name is difficult to spell. Although old Pleasant consistently spelled his name as BUTRAM, some of his children and later generations spelled it other ways. The same name is frequently spelled BUTRAM, BUTTRAM, BUTRUM, BUTTRUM, and many other ways, including BERTRAM for those who were in Wayne Co., KY in the mid to late 1800s. I believe the B in Harriet's name was BRADLEY, her married name by her first husband. Therefore her name should be written Harriet (CAGE) BRADLEY BUTRAM or Harriet (CAGE) B. BUTRAM, not Harriet B. Cage Butrum. (Although I probably wrote it this way myself.) Her first husband was Terry BRADLEY. She used B as a middle initial, probably, because she had children by her first marriage also. I will try to answer your questions. You asked " Do you have the spouse's name for Mary J., Lucy, Rachel A. Bishop Alvin? Also the death date of Lucinda Driver Butrum." Mary Jane "Mollie" BUTRAM married James FORD. She is buried in the Bradley Cemetery with a fieldstone marker that has no writing on it Lucy BUTRAM is believed to have died of tuberculosis before 1860. Rachel A. BUTRAM is also believed to have died of tuberculosis before 1860. However, regarding Lucy and Rachel . . . Either Rachel or her sister Lucy may have married Jim DOSS and given birth to a child named Berry Allen DOSS on February 17, 1856. J. DOSS was on the 1860 Macon Co., TN Census with a child designated as B.A. DOSS, age 2. The child's mother was not in the home and it is supposed she died by 1860. I would like to know for sure which of the girls lived long enough to marry and give birth to a child. Bishop Alvin BUTRAM apparently married Sarah E. Unknown, at least they were living together with her children when the 1880 Macon Co., TN Census was enumerated. I have his death certificate if you are interested. He died July 4, 1919 in Graves Co., Kentucky. It says he was a widower so does not give the name of a wife. Lucinda (DRIVER) BUTRAM, first wife of Pleasant BUTRAM, died of tuberculosis. According to the MACON COUNTY, TN CEMETERY BOOK, Vol. I . . . there is a grave in the Old Puncheon Creek Cemetery on Long Lane in Allen Co., KY that may be that of Lucinda's. The inscription says only "L.E. BUTRUM, d. March 1859". I visited this very neglected and overgrown cemetery several years ago but could not find the grave. It is my understanding much work has been done on it since then. I have not had an opportunity to go back to look. The year (1859) of death is about right for Lucinda's death and I believe that is where she is buried. The distance between this cemetery in Allen Co., KY and the Underwood Cemetery in Macon Co., TN is not far although in different counties. Years after Lucinda died and Pleasant remarried he gave the land for the Underwood Cemetery and his was the first burial there. I really would like to communicate with you directly and exchange more information on this family. Please get in touch with me. Are you a descendant of Pleasant BUTRAM? If so, by which wife? Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nita Lawing" <TNAncestor@msn.com> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM > Anna, > Yes, Mary J., Henr Elbridge, & Nathaniel are the children of Pleasant Henry and Harriet B. Cage Butrum. James David, William Thomas, Lucy, Rachel A., Benjamin Allen, Jacob B., Pleasant Henry, Jr., John Jackson & Bishop Alvin are the children of Pleasant Henry & Lucinda Drive Butrum. Am I spelling 'Butrum' correctly? I notice you spell your name differently. > > I have the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910 Macon County Census Books, also the "Macon County, Tennessee History & Families" book. I am still going through all of this material. > > Do you have the spouse's name for Mary J., Lucy, Rachel A. Bishop Alvin? Also the death date of Lucinda Driver Butrum. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Nita Lovelady Lawing