Ruth: The 17 children I have in my records are: (1) John, born abt. 1805 in Smith Co., TN -married Elizabeth Wakefield abt. 1823 - died bef. 1850 in TN (2) Tilmon D., born December 31, 1807, in Smith Co., TN - married Mary Gifford abt. 1825 in TN -- died June 05, 1901, in Macon Co., TN (3) Margaret Sarah, born abt. 1811 in Smith Co., TN -- married Jeremiah M. Browner or Brawner in 1834 in Macon Co., TN -- died May 1860 in Macon Co. (4) Mary, born 1812 in Smith Co., TN -- married Robert Gammons abt. 1828 in TN (5) Peter King, born April 24, 1813, in Smith Co., TN -- married Talitha DeWhitt (his 3rd wife) December 01, 1853, in Simpson County, KY -- died November 1891, in Eagle Rock, Barry Co., MO (6) Matilda Susan, born abt. 1814 in Smith Co., TN (7) Carroll S., born in 1815 in Smith Co., TN -- married Mary Holly Leath March 31, 1835, in Smith Co., TN -- died in 1888 in Macon Co., TN (8) Rebecca, born 1816 in Smith Co., TN -- married Payton Smith Dixon abt. 1844 -- died 1910 in Alpe! na, Carroll Co., AR (9) Jessie, born abt 1820 -- married Leatha Nichols (10) Moses, born abt 1820 -- married Mary Ann Nichols in 1830 in Warren Co., TN -- died bef 1860 (11) Asa Joyner, born November 15, 1826 -- married Harriet Hargis or Harges -- died June 17, 1864 in AR (12) Pleasant Franklin, born May 02, 1830, in Smith Co., TN -- married Emaline Hargis June 16, 1846, in Macon Co., TN -- died June 14, 1884 (13) William B.L., born 1832 in Macon Co, TN -- married Mary Elizabeth or Ellen DeWitt (Talitha DeWhitt's older sister) July 03, 1851, in Macon Co., TN -- died November 04, 1861, in St. Louis, MO. (14) Newton B.L., born abt. 1833 in Smith Co., TN -- died November 20, 1865 (15) Gideon -- no information (16) Nancy -- no information (17) Nicholas -- no information. Ed DeWhitt -- "Ruth Muhleck" <rmuhleck@nctc.com> wrote: Ed, all the records I have seen say that Peter and Sarah had 16 children. They owned 183 acres at what is now 2164 Dark Hollow Rd. just a little way up the road behind the old Shrum Grocery store at Old Bottom. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed DeWhitt" <eddewhitt@netzero.net> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] SHRUM > > Mary Shrum was an older sister of Peter King Shrum, who married my 2nd great-grandaunt, Talitha DeWhitt. My information, although it is undocumented, is that Mary Shrum, the 4th of 17 children born to Peter Shrum and Sarah Beckie Lovelady, was born in 1812 in Smith County, Tennessee, and married Robert Gammons about 1828 in Tennessee. I have no information on children. > > Ed DeWhitt > > > -- "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net> wrote: > From: Ruth Muhleck > . . . .who married Carroll Shrum. . . . . my main family Shrum > > > Hello, Ruth, > Do you have any information on Mary "Polly" SHRUM, born somewhere around 1809, and believed > by some to to be a daughter of Peter SHRUM and Sara LOVELADY. Mary "Polly" married Robert > GAMMON, presumably before 1829, as one of their children was born about 1829. > > Bobby L. West > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > List your Macon County, TN. Family Names!! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > SHARE YOUR MACON COUNTY FAMILY DATA WITH OTHERS AND CONNECT TO DISTANT COUSINS.... > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== Connect to distant cousins! <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Mary Shrum was an older sister of Peter King Shrum, who married my 2nd great-grandaunt, Talitha DeWhitt. My information, although it is undocumented, is that Mary Shrum, the 4th of 17 children born to Peter Shrum and Sarah Beckie Lovelady, was born in 1812 in Smith County, Tennessee, and married Robert Gammons about 1828 in Tennessee. I have no information on children. Ed DeWhitt -- "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net> wrote: From: Ruth Muhleck . . . .who married Carroll Shrum. . . . . my main family Shrum Hello, Ruth, Do you have any information on Mary "Polly" SHRUM, born somewhere around 1809, and believed by some to to be a daughter of Peter SHRUM and Sara LOVELADY. Mary "Polly" married Robert GAMMON, presumably before 1829, as one of their children was born about 1829. Bobby L. West ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== List your Macon County, TN. Family Names!! <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Ed, all the records I have seen say that Peter and Sarah had 16 children. They owned 183 acres at what is now 2164 Dark Hollow Rd. just a little way up the road behind the old Shrum Grocery store at Old Bottom. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed DeWhitt" <eddewhitt@netzero.net> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] SHRUM > > Mary Shrum was an older sister of Peter King Shrum, who married my 2nd great-grandaunt, Talitha DeWhitt. My information, although it is undocumented, is that Mary Shrum, the 4th of 17 children born to Peter Shrum and Sarah Beckie Lovelady, was born in 1812 in Smith County, Tennessee, and married Robert Gammons about 1828 in Tennessee. I have no information on children. > > Ed DeWhitt > > > -- "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net> wrote: > From: Ruth Muhleck > . . . .who married Carroll Shrum. . . . . my main family Shrum > > > Hello, Ruth, > Do you have any information on Mary "Polly" SHRUM, born somewhere around 1809, and believed > by some to to be a daughter of Peter SHRUM and Sara LOVELADY. Mary "Polly" married Robert > GAMMON, presumably before 1829, as one of their children was born about 1829. > > Bobby L. West > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > List your Macon County, TN. Family Names!! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > SHARE YOUR MACON COUNTY FAMILY DATA WITH OTHERS AND CONNECT TO DISTANT COUSINS.... > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > >

I also have a Peter King Shrum, b. 1787 d. 1870, who married Sara Becky Lovelace. Their daughter was Sarah Shrum. I have Sarah Shrum marrying Jeremiah Brawner. Their daughter, Matilda Brawner, b. 1840, married Stephen Jeremiah Dixon. Matilda and Stephen daughter, Martha Sarah Adaline Dixon married Barney Wilson Carter, b. 1848. Barney and Martha's son was John Henry Carter. John married Hessie Lane. John and Hessie's daughter, Hattie Carter, was my husband's mother. I hope this helps a little. Linda Harrison Clark --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Bobby, I have Mary "Polly" Shrum b. about 1812 Married Robert Gammons b. 1808 d. about 1850 M. about 1828. She was the daughter of Peter Shrum and Sarah Beckie Lovelady. My Grandfather Radford Shrum who was the great grand son of Peter and Sarah married Betty Ann Gammons. So the Shrum name and Gammons are connected many times through out the years. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:23 PM Subject: [TNMACON] SHRUM > From: Ruth Muhleck > . . . .who married Carroll Shrum. . . . . my main family Shrum > > > Hello, Ruth, > Do you have any information on Mary "Polly" SHRUM, born somewhere around 1809, and believed > by some to to be a daughter of Peter SHRUM and Sara LOVELADY. Mary "Polly" married Robert > GAMMON, presumably before 1829, as one of their children was born about 1829. > > Bobby L. West > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > List your Macon County, TN. Family Names!! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > >

From: Ruth Muhleck . . . .who married Carroll Shrum. . . . . my main family Shrum Hello, Ruth, Do you have any information on Mary "Polly" SHRUM, born somewhere around 1809, and believed by some to to be a daughter of Peter SHRUM and Sara LOVELADY. Mary "Polly" married Robert GAMMON, presumably before 1829, as one of their children was born about 1829. Bobby L. West

Are these the only states that existed in that year? Tennessee was formed from North Carolina in 1796??? So if you're looking for Tennessee residents, North Carolina would be where to look in 1790. Mary Knight <maryknight@famvid.com> wrote:The LDS Library would probably have a copy of it if it's still in existence. This site says Aug. 2, 1790 BL? :-) http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/census.html Note: 1790 census records exist for Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Vermont and Virginia (Virginia schedules were reconstructed from State enumerations) Mur ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.

Gray, I am a descendant of Sarah Jenkins b. 1714. d.1790 M. James Story b. 1700. d 1777.Their son William Story b.1763. d. November1799. He M. Mary Ann Rickman. b.1767. d.1800.Their daughter Elizabeth b. 2-26-1792 d. 2-26-1878. who M. John Isaac Leath b.2-22-1788. d. 1850 Their daugther Mary "Mallie" Leath b.1818. d. 2-21-1864 who married Carroll Shrum. In my family tree Jenkins is a name that comes into my main family Shrum in a round about way. Ruth Muhleck ----- Original Message ----- From: <GJenk32888@aol.com> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] First U. S. Census > Ruth.... > I have a copy of ALL the Jenkins (& various other spellings) > heads-of-households from the 1790 Census if that would interest you???? > Gary J > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > This list is for sharing Macon County, TN. Genealogy! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > >

Many times I will have a city and state of where a person was born or died but need to know the county. I found this site which makes it easy to find the county a particular city or town is in. I though it might be helpful for others! :-) http://www.city-data.com/ Mary K.

Ruth.... I have a copy of ALL the Jenkins (& various other spellings) heads-of-households from the 1790 Census if that would interest you???? Gary J

The LDS Library would probably have a copy of it if it's still in existence. This site says Aug. 2, 1790 BL? :-) Mur, All I know is what I read in the funny papers. <g> The historical section of the B'field Doo-Dad said the 1790 census was completed on 1 Aug 1790. Bobby L.

The LDS Library would probably have a copy of it if it's still in existence. This site says Aug. 2, 1790 BL? :-) http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/census.html Note: 1790 census records exist for Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Vermont and Virginia (Virginia schedules were reconstructed from State enumerations) Mur

Bobby, Do you have a copy of this census? Where could I see it?Is it on line Thanks, Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: [TNMACON] First U. S. Census > This day in history, 1 August 1790, the first United States census was completed, showing > a population of nearly 4 million people. How many of your "peeps" were included in that census? > > Bobby L. West > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > SHARE YOUR MACON COUNTY FAMILY DATA WITH OTHERS AND CONNECT TO DISTANT COUSINS.... > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > >

From: Ruth Muhleck Bobby, Do you have a copy of this census? Where could I see it? Is it on line? Don't have a copy of it. I got the information from the historical section of a local newspaper. The LDS Library would probably have a copy of it if it's still in existence. Bobby L. West

This day in history, 1 August 1790, the first United States census was completed, showing a population of nearly 4 million people. How many of your "peeps" were included in that census? Bobby L. West

RE: Brooks family I'm just beginning to work on this family. My granddaughter descends from Clarence Birdwell Brooks, son of Thomas & Lou Hada Snyder Brooks. I may be able to get more information in a few days. I show Thomas was married before Hada but no name of first wife. I was told they had a son named Pete (and no other children listed) I show children of Thomas & Lou Hada Snyder Brooks are Clarence Birdwell (b. 1904), Odell, Carsie, Huey, Ruby, Naomi, Gertie, Daisy, and Oakley. This information is only by word of mouth from Thomas's granddaughter. I do have some papers that I haven't got to yet but at this time I have no further information. Wanda Pulliam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Pryor" <maryclarkpryor@yahoo.com> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] 1890 Census > yep, these two children are listed in 1900 and from other clues looks > like she had 4 children but 2 died before 1900. Ethel is not in 1910 > census but one Ethel Brooks married 19 Oct 1909 to Homer Turner in Macon > County, TN. This is probably yours. > > Lanice <lsgre49@charter.net> wrote:thanks, "Peggy" has been a mystery for > many years now. > We can't even find marriage records of her and Thomas S. Brooks. > they were to have had 2 children: > Lurlie (born November 19, 1891)and Ethel Estelle (born April 09, 1894) > Macon Co. > > Lanice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Knight" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [TNMACON] 1890 Census > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mary Pryor >> To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNMACON] 1890 Census >> >> >> 1880 Macon County, TN census lists J. M. (John) Adams; Frances O. > (Pinckley); Margarett age 11; Casady (should be Casper) age 9; William 7; > Samuel Cortez 1. They later had a son, Ed. Is this your "Peggy"? >> >> My thoughts also Lanice and Mary. >> I think you might want to see if you can prove to this family Lanice. >> 1850 Macon Co. TN >> Adams John 40 b. VA >> Adams Margaret 39 b. VA >> Adams Obediah T. 13b. TN >> Adams Lewis W. 11 b. TN >> Adams William 9 b. TN >> Adams John M. 7 b. TN >> Adams Martha A. S. 5 b. TN >> >> >> 1860 Macon Co. TN >> Adams John 50 b. VA >> Adams Margaret 48 b. VA >> Adams Obediah T. 24 b. TN >> Adams William L. 19 b. TN >> Adams John M. 17 b. TN >> Adams Martha A. S. 13 b. TN >> Adams Margaret L. 4 b. TN >> Adams Gilbert G. 3 b. TN >> >> >> 1870 Macon Co. >> Adams John W. 26 b. TN >> Adams Frances O. 28 b. TN >> Adams Margaret E. 1 b. TN >> Adams Casper M. 4 mos. b. TN >> Adams Margaret L. 14 b. TN domestic >> Adams Gilbert G. 12 b. TN Farm Hand >> >> Mary Knight >> >> >> ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== >> Connect to distant cousins! >> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE > WEBPAGE! > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson invite you to -- > VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE! > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > List your Macon County, TN. Family Names!! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE > WEBPAGE!</A> > >

On land transfers I keep seeing the term "on a credit of one and two years". What exactly does that mean? Bobby L. West

As a member of the Macon County County Historical Society I have done much research on people in 6th and 7th district of Macon County. We hope to do a book called Macon Roots that contains a "group sheet" on each household listed in 1850 census of Macon County. The Society as a whole has contributed information to add maiden names and other information to all census records from 1850 thru 1910 and these are already published in books. We are so thankful that Calvin Gregory and Goodspeed and other older researchers left us their works that we want to help those who come after us. Here is your family in District 7 1850. This if for Macon Roots book If anyone can fill in my blanks, it would certainly help. Thanks, Mary Pryor HH#61 Husband: John Adams born: 1810 VA died: ______ md ca 1836 Father: ____________________ Mother: _______________________ Wife: Margaret ______ born: 1811 VA died: ________ Father: _____________________ Mother: ____________________ Children: 1. Adams, Obediah 1837 TN- _____ 2. Adams, Issaac W. 1839 TN - _______ md ca 1859 E. A. 1840 - _____ 3. Adams, William L. 1841 TN - ______ 4. Adams, John M./W. 3 Oct 1842 TN - 3 Sep 1884 buried Smalling-Adams Cemetery md ca 1868 Frances O. Pinckley 1842 - ______ [HH# 78b] 5. Adams, Martha A. S. 1845 TN - _____ 6. Adams, Margaret L. * 1856 TN- _______ 7. Adams, Gilbert G. * 1857 TN - ________ Notes 1850 John is listed as a farmer with real estate valued at $700. Source: Harry Cleveland research; Cortez Adams telephone interview. Gary06074@aol.com wrote:Hello Mary, Mary and Lanice. I am descended through Thomas BROOKS and his first wife, Peggy ADAMS also and then through their daughter, Ethel Estelle BROOKS, my great grandmother. Ethel's mother had been a brickwall for years. I broke though it when I received a copy of Ethel's social security application where she listed her mother as Peggy ADAMS. This is the only document that I am aware of that shows a relationship between Ethel and her mother, Peggy Adams. Several years back, I paid a professional genealogist in the middle Tenn area to search for this Peggy Adams since I am over a thousand miles away. Her report back confirmed that Peggy is a nickname for Margaret. She also placed Margaret "Peggy" Adams in the John Adams family that Mary Knight is showing in the census records. Since so many records have been destroyed, I have become comfortable in accepting this although I would like to locate at least one document proving it. I was very surprised when I saw Mary show the same family in her post. Mary, have you done research on this family? Also, one of Ethel's granddaughters verbally told me that Thomas Brooks and his first wife, Peggy, had four children. ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== Are your Ancestors from Macon County, TN? You may still have some connections there.... VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE! --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Mary, Mary and Gary; I also descend from Thomas Brooks and his first wife, Peggy Adams, and then through their daughter, Ethel Estelle BROOKS, my grandmother. Gary and I have corresponded over this mystery. I have to agree with Gary's reasoning. And like him, I would love to have documentation. And so the search continues, **smiles**. Lanice ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gary06074@aol.com> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] 1890 Census > Hello Mary, Mary and Lanice. > I am descended through Thomas BROOKS and his first wife, Peggy ADAMS also and > then through their daughter, Ethel Estelle BROOKS, my great grandmother. > Ethel's mother had been a brickwall for years. I broke though it when I received a > copy of Ethel's social security application where she listed her mother as > Peggy ADAMS. This is the only document that I am aware of that shows a > relationship between Ethel and her mother, Peggy Adams. > Several years back, I paid a professional genealogist in the middle Tenn area > to search for this Peggy Adams since I am over a thousand miles away. Her > report back confirmed that Peggy is a nickname for Margaret. She also placed > Margaret "Peggy" Adams in the John Adams family that Mary Knight is showing in the > census records. Since so many records have been destroyed, I have become > comfortable in accepting this although I would like to locate at least one > document proving it. I was very surprised when I saw Mary show the same family in her > post. Mary, have you done research on this family? > Also, one of Ethel's granddaughters verbally told me that Thomas Brooks and > his first wife, Peggy, had four children. > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Are your Ancestors from Macon County, TN? You may still have some connections there.... > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Knight To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] 1890 Census 1850 Macon Co. TN Adams John 40 b. VA Adams Margaret 39 b. VA Adams Obediah T. 13b. TN Adams Lewis W. 11 b. TN Adams William 9 b. TN Adams John M. 7 b. TN Adams Martha A. S. 5 b. TN I made an error when I typed this. Lewis W. 11 should read Isaac W. Adams 11. Don't know where I got Lewis From? Sorry about that. Mary Knight