Bobby, as you know this Gregory Family can be a bit confusing. I will try to give you my line as I know it. It seems that I am descended from both brothers, Thomas Sr. & John. My grandfather was Chesley, s/o Thomas (Tom), s/o Major, s/o Jeremiah, s/o John. My ggrandmother was Sarah Sally Gregory, d/o Thomas 'Big Tom'.(Big Tom was the son of Thomas Jr) and Bettie Bry, d/o Bry, son of Thomas Sr. I believe Big Tom and Bettie Bry were first cousins. Did I leave out anyone? Please feel free if you wish to make some corrections. I get totally confused with all the Thomas'. My only connection with the Sloan family is through my Dad's sister Della Sloan, married to John C. Sloan. I knew lots of Sloans growing up in Pleasant Shade, Tn. Joyce On May 5, 2005, at 1:42 PM, B & B West wrote: > From: Joyce Stasel > I was hoping that you had some info that we were almost cuzzins. I > know that you are on the Smith Co. web site, and you must know, if you > are from the Gregory Clan, as I am, you have lots of relatives. Its > good to have this contact with someone from the West Clan. > > > > Hi, Joyce, > Speaking of the GREGORY clan, I'm descended from Bry GREGORY. Who > are your GREGORY > ancestors? You mentioned a SLOAN line. I have SLOAN ancestors, > also, but I haven't done a > lot of work on that line. Maybe we have some connections in one, or > both, of those lines. > > Bobby L. West > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson want you to > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, > TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> >

Joyce and Bobby, I am also a Gregory descendant from Macon County. My line goes: Robert Gregory and Elizabeth Kody Coons Amanda Susan Gregory and Franklin Pierce Kirby Alta Mae Kirby and Samuel Eldon Cosby Samuel Ray Cosby and Ruth Ann Jeffers Lisa Sue Cosby Hughes (me) I have very little information on the Gregorys but would love more. Is there a connection with my line and yours? Lisa Hughes B & B West <geefer@sti.net> wrote: From: Joyce Stasel I was hoping that you had some info that we were almost cuzzins. I know that you are on the Smith Co. web site, and you must know, if you are from the Gregory Clan, as I am, you have lots of relatives. Its good to have this contact with someone from the West Clan. Hi, Joyce, Speaking of the GREGORY clan, I'm descended from Bry GREGORY. Who are your GREGORY ancestors? You mentioned a SLOAN line. I have SLOAN ancestors, also, but I haven't done a lot of work on that line. Maybe we have some connections in one, or both, of those lines. Bobby L. West ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson want you to VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!

From: Nita Lawing I have a John Culbert Lovelady (Jun 1860, Simpson Co., KY; M: Josephine Lowry in 1882 . . . . This John Lovelady is the son of Aaron Lovelady. Nita, I don't know if your LOVELADY line and mine are connected. I don't have any of the above names, however, I don't have a lot of LOVELADY genealogy thus far, either. Thanks!!! Bobby L. West

From: Joyce Stasel I was hoping that you had some info that we were almost cuzzins. I know that you are on the Smith Co. web site, and you must know, if you are from the Gregory Clan, as I am, you have lots of relatives. Its good to have this contact with someone from the West Clan. Hi, Joyce, Speaking of the GREGORY clan, I'm descended from Bry GREGORY. Who are your GREGORY ancestors? You mentioned a SLOAN line. I have SLOAN ancestors, also, but I haven't done a lot of work on that line. Maybe we have some connections in one, or both, of those lines. Bobby L. West

please delete this email address -----Original Message----- From: OPEIHUM@aol.com To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:08:41 EDT Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM Nita: Thank you! I really appreciate you trying. That is also the last records we can find of her. She is my brickwall. Thanks for the help. Regards, Curt Johnson in OK ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson invite you to -- <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Nita: Thank you! I really appreciate you trying. That is also the last records we can find of her. She is my brickwall. Thanks for the help. Regards, Curt Johnson in OK

Hi Helen! Let me try to answer you one statement at a time. (1.) You wrote: "I have that James Carroll Doss was Marr to Mary Jane Butram and had a son Berry Allen Doss." We both agree that the mother of Berry Allen Doss was a BUTRAM. The Death Certificate for him lists his father as Jim DOSS and his mother as "unknown BUTRAM", place born unknown. Berry Allen Doss was born 17 Feb 1856 - 1858, depending on which document you choose to believe. You have Berry's mother as Mary Jane BUTRAM. Do you have the parents for this Mary Jane BUTRAM or a birth date for her? The only Mary Jane BUTRAM I have was the daughter of Pleasant BUTRAM and his 2nd wife, Harriet (CAGE) BRADLEY BUTRAM. Mary Jane was born about 1859 so she was a peer of Berry Allen DOSS, not his mother. Maybe you have information on an older Mary Jane BUTRAM? Perhaps a sister to Pleasant BUTRAM? I would be thrilled to find one! (2.) You wrote: "Also that Azariah Jefferson Doss marr a Butram, but don't know which one." I am not a DOSS researcher, although I have several in my file because they were closely associated with the BUTRAM family. I show Azariah Jefferson DOSS (1839-1875) married Mary Elizabeth Tooley on 20 Jul 1865 in Muhlenburg Co., KY. This Azariah Jefferson DOSS was the son of Joel L. DOSS and Elizabeth G. BUTRUM. Also I have an Azariah DOSS, born about 10 years earlier, son of James Ayers DOSS and Sarah HUNDLEY. I don't have a wife listed for him. Maybe he married a BUTRAM/BUTRUM? (3.) You wrote: "All buried at Underwood". I have been to the Underwood Cemetery in Macon Co., TN but don't believe I have a list of the burials in it. Wish I did! It might help with some of the relationships. However, Mary Jane "Mollie" BUTRAM, daughter of Harriett and Pleasant BUTRAM, is beside her mother, her grave marked only with a plain fieldstone. I know this to be correct because Leon WOOTEN a native of the area and from this family was with me the day I visited. I believe he is also the one who told me Mary Jane BUTRAM married James FORD. Unfortunately this was years ago before I realized the importance of good documentation. Helen, I really am interested in these BUTRAM and DOSS intermarriages and hope this is not the end of our exploring the relationships together. I want my research accurate and I am sure you want yours accurate also. Let's keep working on this until we are sure we're right. Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Doss" <hddoss@earthlink.net> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:52 AM Subject: RE: [TNMACON] Nita, BUTRAM, BUTRUM, etc. > Anna, > Hi, I'm Helen Doss. > I have that James Carroll Doss was Marr to Mary Jane Butram and had a son > Berry Allen Doss. > James also Married Rebecca C. Driver, and Lucy Emolene Harwood. > Also that Azariah Jefferson Doss marr a Butram, but don't know which one. > All buried at Underwood. > Helen

Anna, Hi, I'm Helen Doss. I have that James Carroll Doss was Marr to Mary Jane Butram and had a son Berry Allen Doss. James also Married Rebecca C. Driver, and Lucy Emolene Harwood. Also that Azariah Jefferson Doss marr a Butram, but don't know which one. All buried at Underwood. Helen > [Original Message] > From: Anna L Bertram <abertram@heartoftn.net> > To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/4/2005 8:49:29 AM > Subject: [TNMACON] Nita, BUTRAM, BUTRUM, etc. > > Nita, > > It is my pleasure to exchange information with you on the family of Pleasant > BUTRAM (1812-1885) and his two wives. First may I ask the source for a > middle name for Pleasant? I have never before seen even a middle initial for > him although he did name one son Pleasant Henry and another Henry Elbridge. > > The < B > name is difficult to spell. Although old Pleasant consistently > spelled his name as BUTRAM, some of his children and later generations > spelled it other ways. The same name is frequently spelled BUTRAM, BUTTRAM, > BUTRUM, BUTTRUM, and many other ways, including BERTRAM for those who were > in Wayne Co., KY in the mid to late 1800s. > > I believe the B in Harriet's name was BRADLEY, her married name by her first > husband. Therefore her name should be written Harriet (CAGE) BRADLEY BUTRAM > or Harriet (CAGE) B. BUTRAM, not Harriet B. Cage Butrum. (Although I > probably wrote it this way myself.) Her first husband was Terry BRADLEY. She > used B as a middle initial, probably, because she had children by her first > marriage also. > > I will try to answer your questions. You asked " Do you have the spouse's > name for Mary J., Lucy, Rachel A. Bishop Alvin? Also the death date of > Lucinda Driver Butrum." > > Mary Jane "Mollie" BUTRAM married James FORD. She is buried in the Bradley > Cemetery with a fieldstone marker that has no writing on it > > Lucy BUTRAM is believed to have died of tuberculosis before 1860. > > Rachel A. BUTRAM is also believed to have died of tuberculosis before 1860. > > However, regarding Lucy and Rachel . . . Either Rachel or her sister Lucy > may have married Jim DOSS and given birth to a child named Berry Allen DOSS > on February 17, 1856. J. DOSS was on the 1860 Macon Co., TN Census with a > child designated as B.A. DOSS, age 2. The child's mother was not in the home > and it is supposed she died by 1860. I would like to know for sure which of > the girls lived long enough to marry and give birth to a child. > > Bishop Alvin BUTRAM apparently married Sarah E. Unknown, at least they were > living together with her children when the 1880 Macon Co., TN Census was > enumerated. I have his death certificate if you are interested. He died July > 4, 1919 in Graves Co., Kentucky. It says he was a widower so does not give > the name of a wife. > > Lucinda (DRIVER) BUTRAM, first wife of Pleasant BUTRAM, died of > tuberculosis. According to the MACON COUNTY, TN CEMETERY BOOK, Vol. I . . . > there is a grave in the Old Puncheon Creek Cemetery on Long Lane in Allen > Co., KY that may be that of Lucinda's. The inscription says only "L.E. > BUTRUM, d. March 1859". I visited this very neglected and overgrown cemetery > several years ago but could not find the grave. It is my understanding much > work has been done on it since then. I have not had an opportunity to go > back to look. The year (1859) of death is about right for Lucinda's death > and I believe that is where she is buried. The distance between this > cemetery in Allen Co., KY and the Underwood Cemetery in Macon Co., TN is not > far although in different counties. Years after Lucinda died and Pleasant > remarried he gave the land for the Underwood Cemetery and his was the first > burial there. > > I really would like to communicate with you directly and exchange more > information on this family. Please get in touch with me. Are you a > descendant of Pleasant BUTRAM? If so, by which wife? > > Sincerely, > Anna Bertram > abertram@heartoftn.net

Curt, The only place I found Elizabeth Parker was in the 1880 Macon County, TN Census that you mentioned. Did not find your Richard Parker. The following is what is in the 1880 Census book: Dist HH # LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE S R OCCUPATION RELATE BIRTH 7 317-317 Parker Elizabeth 104 F W Disabled VA VA VA 7 317-317 Knight James 22 M W Servant TN TN TN 7 317-317 Knight Martha 21 F W Wife TN TN TN 7 317-317 Knight Mary 3 F W Daughter TN TN TN 7 317-317 Knight Egar 1 M W Son TN TN TN This is all I found. I will keep my eyes open. Thanks. Nita Lovelady Lawing Sahuarita, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: OPEIHUM@aol.com<mailto:OPEIHUM@aol.com> To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM Attn: Nita Lawing: Would you please check your books to see if either Elizabeth (Williams) Parker or Richard Parker are listed. I was told that Elizabeth is in the 1880 census shown as 104 years old. Family rumor is that she lived to be 108. She was my gg grandmother. Have never been able to find where she is buried. Also, her son Richard, would like to know where he is buried. Any info will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Curt Johnson in OK ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== SHARE YOUR MACON COUNTY FAMILY DATA WITH OTHERS AND CONNECT TO DISTANT COUSINS.... <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Nita, I made a mistake about the burial place for Mary Jane "Mollie" (BUTRAM) FORD. I said the BRADLEY Cemetery but I meant the Underwood Cemetery with her parents. The Underwood Cemetery is not named for a person but for a community called Underwood. The Underwood United Methodist Church was across the highway from it. Sorry for the confusion this may have caused! Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net

Hi Bobby, I was hoping that you had some info that we were almost cuzzins. I know that you are on the Smith Co. web site, and you must know, if you are from the Gregory Clan, as I am, you have lots of relatives. Its good to have this contact with someone from the West Clan. This is the info. I promised re the other sister in my Dad's family: Mamie W. Heitt 7/4/1887-6/29/1961; J. Henry Heitt, 7/7/1875-12/30/1960. Both were buried in Ridgewood Cemetery, Carthage. The other family members are buried Sanderson,s Cemetery, Pleasant Shade, Tn., with the exception of Jonas second wife Mary, and their son James Francis Whitley. On May 4, 2005, at 4:52 AM, B & B West wrote: Joyce > From: Joyce Stasel > Bobby, I am very interested. How are we almost "cuzzins"? > > > Hi, Joyce, > Poor choice of words. I used the word "almost" because your > WHITLEY line is connected to > somewhere on the outer fringe of my family tree but you did clear up > some questions that I had > and I do appreciate your WHITLEY input. Thank you!!! > Bobby L. West > > > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson want you to > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, > TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> >

Attn: Nita Lawing: Would you please check your books to see if either Elizabeth (Williams) Parker or Richard Parker are listed. I was told that Elizabeth is in the 1880 census shown as 104 years old. Family rumor is that she lived to be 108. She was my gg grandmother. Have never been able to find where she is buried. Also, her son Richard, would like to know where he is buried. Any info will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Curt Johnson in OK

Nita, It is my pleasure to exchange information with you on the family of Pleasant BUTRAM (1812-1885) and his two wives. First may I ask the source for a middle name for Pleasant? I have never before seen even a middle initial for him although he did name one son Pleasant Henry and another Henry Elbridge. The < B > name is difficult to spell. Although old Pleasant consistently spelled his name as BUTRAM, some of his children and later generations spelled it other ways. The same name is frequently spelled BUTRAM, BUTTRAM, BUTRUM, BUTTRUM, and many other ways, including BERTRAM for those who were in Wayne Co., KY in the mid to late 1800s. I believe the B in Harriet's name was BRADLEY, her married name by her first husband. Therefore her name should be written Harriet (CAGE) BRADLEY BUTRAM or Harriet (CAGE) B. BUTRAM, not Harriet B. Cage Butrum. (Although I probably wrote it this way myself.) Her first husband was Terry BRADLEY. She used B as a middle initial, probably, because she had children by her first marriage also. I will try to answer your questions. You asked " Do you have the spouse's name for Mary J., Lucy, Rachel A. Bishop Alvin? Also the death date of Lucinda Driver Butrum." Mary Jane "Mollie" BUTRAM married James FORD. She is buried in the Bradley Cemetery with a fieldstone marker that has no writing on it Lucy BUTRAM is believed to have died of tuberculosis before 1860. Rachel A. BUTRAM is also believed to have died of tuberculosis before 1860. However, regarding Lucy and Rachel . . . Either Rachel or her sister Lucy may have married Jim DOSS and given birth to a child named Berry Allen DOSS on February 17, 1856. J. DOSS was on the 1860 Macon Co., TN Census with a child designated as B.A. DOSS, age 2. The child's mother was not in the home and it is supposed she died by 1860. I would like to know for sure which of the girls lived long enough to marry and give birth to a child. Bishop Alvin BUTRAM apparently married Sarah E. Unknown, at least they were living together with her children when the 1880 Macon Co., TN Census was enumerated. I have his death certificate if you are interested. He died July 4, 1919 in Graves Co., Kentucky. It says he was a widower so does not give the name of a wife. Lucinda (DRIVER) BUTRAM, first wife of Pleasant BUTRAM, died of tuberculosis. According to the MACON COUNTY, TN CEMETERY BOOK, Vol. I . . . there is a grave in the Old Puncheon Creek Cemetery on Long Lane in Allen Co., KY that may be that of Lucinda's. The inscription says only "L.E. BUTRUM, d. March 1859". I visited this very neglected and overgrown cemetery several years ago but could not find the grave. It is my understanding much work has been done on it since then. I have not had an opportunity to go back to look. The year (1859) of death is about right for Lucinda's death and I believe that is where she is buried. The distance between this cemetery in Allen Co., KY and the Underwood Cemetery in Macon Co., TN is not far although in different counties. Years after Lucinda died and Pleasant remarried he gave the land for the Underwood Cemetery and his was the first burial there. I really would like to communicate with you directly and exchange more information on this family. Please get in touch with me. Are you a descendant of Pleasant BUTRAM? If so, by which wife? Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nita Lawing" <TNAncestor@msn.com> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM > Anna, > Yes, Mary J., Henr Elbridge, & Nathaniel are the children of Pleasant Henry and Harriet B. Cage Butrum. James David, William Thomas, Lucy, Rachel A., Benjamin Allen, Jacob B., Pleasant Henry, Jr., John Jackson & Bishop Alvin are the children of Pleasant Henry & Lucinda Drive Butrum. Am I spelling 'Butrum' correctly? I notice you spell your name differently. > > I have the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910 Macon County Census Books, also the "Macon County, Tennessee History & Families" book. I am still going through all of this material. > > Do you have the spouse's name for Mary J., Lucy, Rachel A. Bishop Alvin? Also the death date of Lucinda Driver Butrum. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Nita Lovelady Lawing

From: Joyce Stasel Bobby, I am very interested. How are we almost "cuzzins"? Hi, Joyce, Poor choice of words. I used the word "almost" because your WHITLEY line is connected to somewhere on the outer fringe of my family tree but you did clear up some questions that I had and I do appreciate your WHITLEY input. Thank you!!! Bobby L. West

Hi, Sue: Pleasant Franklin Shrum's younger brother, William B. L. Shrum, born 1832, married my great-great aunt Mary Elizabeth or Ellen DeWitt July 03, 1851 in Simpson Co., KY. There is some interesting history on their family at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~schrum/1800.html. Here's what I have on the Lovelady line: John Lovelady (M) (No direct relationship to me)- born 1770 in SC - Father of Asa Lovelady. ******************************************************************* Sarah Beckie Lovelady (F) (No direct relationship to me)- Born 1789 in SC - Married Peter Shrum 1805 (son of William B. L. Shrum & Mary Elizabeth or Ellen DeWitt). Peter was born about 1787 in Lincoln County, NC. Sarah died 1879 in Macon County, TN. ******************************************************************* Sarah Black Lovelady (F) (Wife of my great-great-great uncle Levi McWhorter who was born 1794 & died after 1860. John Lovelady (M) (Husband of my great-great aunt Manerva DeWitt)- born between 1800-1818 in Jackson County, TN- Married Manerva DeWitt January 15, 1835 in Monroe County, KY - died before 1850. Their children(my 1st cousins 3 times removed): (1) Salinda B. Lovelady (F)- Born 1836 in TN - Married Jobe D. Dixon July 1, 1858 in Allen County, KY (2) Mary Lovelady (F)- Born about 1837 in Monroe County, KY - Married David Wright. (3) B. J. Lovelady (F)- Born 1838 in TN - Married T. H. Miller. (4) Marzcella Zyrilda Lovelady (F)- Born December 27, 1840 in Simpson County, KY - Married Adam Robert Wainscott May 20, 1858 - died December 9, 1898 in Cold Water, Simpson County, KY. (5) C. Lovelady (F?)- Born 1843 in IL. (6) Angeline M. Lovelady (F)- Born December 17, 1845 in TN - Married Henry Thomas Settle 1865 in KY - died March 24, 1907 in Todd County, KY - buried in New Harmony Cemetery, Todd County, KY ****************************************************************** Asa Lovelady (husband of my great-great-great aunt ? McWhorter)- Married ? McWhorter About 1827 - She was born About 1800 in SC and died About 1849. Their children (my 1st cousins 4 times removed): (1) ? Lovelady (M?)- Born about 1820 (2) Elizabeth Ann Lovelady (F)- Born November 27, 1827 in Smith/Jackson County, TN - Married Jonas Lee Sweazea about 1845 in TN. He was born 1820 in TN. She died February 08, 1916 in Jackson Twp., Carter County, MO. Buried Gresham Cemetery, Jackson Twp, Carter County, MO. (3) Sarah E. Lovelady (F)- Born about 1828. (4) Henry M. Lovelady (M)- Born January 30, 1832 in TN - Married Mary Ann Shrum. She was born Jue 16, 1826. (5) George Lovelady (M) - Born 1834. (6) John F. Lovelady (M) - Born 1837. (7) Virgil A. Lovelady (M)- Born March 1837 in TN - Married Pheriby M. Slone. Virgil died August 24, 1924 in Hartsville, Trousdale County, TN. (8) Allen W. Lovelady (M)- Born 1841 in TN - Died August 26, 1864 Lexington, KY - buried in Lexington National Cemetery, Lexington, KY ********************************************************************* Henry M. Lovelady (M) (1st cousin 4 times removed)- Born January 30, 1832 in TN - Married Mary Ann Shrum born June 16, 1826 in West TN. Henry died October 3, 1902 in Newton County, AR. Their children: (my 2nd cousins 3 times removed): (1) Asa C. W. Lovelady (M)- Born 1860 in TN - Died after 1920 in AR. (2) Sloan E. F. Lovelady (M) (3) Sarah A. Lovelady (F)- Born 1846 - Married ? Sloan. (4) Barzilla Elizabeth Lovelady (F)- Born November 1849 in Macon County, TN - Married Benjamin Carver in 1868 - She died August 10, 1916 in A. (5) Hannah Rebecca A. Lovelady (F)- Born 1851 in TN - Married James Calvin Sisco, Jr., who was born March 13, 1847. She died April 13, 1930 in Rogers County, OK. (6) Nancy E. Lovelady (F)- Born 1853 in TN - Married Ezekiel Carnahan - She died November 17, 1883. (7) Letha Y. Lovelady (F)- Born 1858 in Macon County, TN - Married Neal Champion Mckinnis (sp?). She died September 6, 1945 in Newton County, AR. (8) William C. Lovelady (M)- Born January 29, 1862 in Macon County, TN - Married Malvina Margaret Brawner in 1877. He died died October 2, 1941. ******************************************************************* Asa C. W. Lovelady (M) (my 2nd cousin 3 times removed)- Born 1860 in TN - died after 1920 in AR. About 1878 married Martha J. Newberry - born May 1861 in TN. Their children (my 3rd cousins twice removed): (1) William B. Lovelady (M)- Born June 1879 in AR - Married Mary Uknown About 1896. She was born October 1879 in AR. Their children: (my 4th cousins once removed): (1) Sada Lovelady (F)- Born 1897 in AR (2) Lillie Lovelady (F)- Born 1899 - Married Lewis Oliver Henton born October 3, 1898 in Mississippi County, AR. (3) Henry Lovelady (M)- Born January 1882. (4) Corda Lovelady (F)- Born September 1886 in AR. ***************************************************************** Warren Ellis Lovelady - Born 1871 in Springdale, Washington County, AR -ded 1932 in Cleo Springs, OK - on December 22, year unknown, married my great aunt Eliza Elizbaeth DeWhitt - Born January 27, 1874 in Howard, Elk County, KS - Died February 8, 1959 in Cleo Springs, Oklahoma. Their cildren: (my 1st cousins once removed): (1) J.H. Lovelady (F?) (2) S. J. Lovelady (M)- Born May 12, 1916 in Carrier, OK. (3) Myrtle Mae Lovelady (F)- Born September 22, 1894 in Douglas County, KS - Married John Harrison Nelson February 1, 1914. She died April 05, 1973 in Enid, Garfield County, KS. (4) Flo Anna Lovelady (F)- Born 1897 in Douglas County, KS - died 1910 in OK. (5) William Robert Lovelady (M)- Born February 14, 1898 in OK - died 1918 in Hawaiian Islands - Buried National Cemetery, San Francisco, CA. (6) Donna Lovelady (F)- Born February 1, 1901 in OK - died December 3, 1906. (7) Ethel Fern Lovelady (F)- Born November 26, 1903 in OK - died December 8, 1906 in Cleo Springs, OK. (8) Ruby Ellen Lovelady (F)- Born August 15, 1906 in OK - died December 8, 1906 in OK. (9) Lawrence Ober Lovelady (M)- Born June 21, 1908 in OK - Married Ada Stout - died July 1977 in Amarillo, Potter County, TX. (10) Pauline Lovelady (F)- Born 1912 in OK - died 1923 in Carrier, OK. ******************************************************************** Hope this is helpful. Ed DeWhitt 1150 Little Round Top Way Townsend, TN 37882 Home (865) 448-9187, Cell (865) 256-0320, FAX (775) 264-5104 eddewhitt@netzero.net -- "MacBeth" <macbeth@greatlakes.net> wrote: Hi My name is Sue Boyle and I am a descendant of Pleasant Franklin Shrum whos parents were Peter Shrum and Sarah (Becky) Lovelady I believe Sarahs fathers name was John I have lots of information on the Shrums but only those two names in the LoveLady line. Let me know if you have any information on Sarahs family thanks n god bless Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:50 AM Subject: [TNMACON] LOVELADY > From: Nita Lawing > Nita Lovelady Lawing > > > Regarding the LOVELADY in your signature. > Are you connected to the John LOVELADY line of early Smith Co./Macon Co. TN? > > Bobby L. West > > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson want you to > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson invite you to -- <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Bobby, I show Vallee Bell Whitley is the sister of Virgil Whitley. I also have other sisters listed: Flossie, Spouse Albert Kiser Mamie Della Is this correct? Vallee Bell married Patrick E. West with one child, Leon. I have Emory Cyrus Whitley (brother to Maggie Della Whitley Nixon, my husband's grandmother). He married Hettie Lee Austin, Child: Alma Lee Whitley, 14 Mar 1913. Nita Lovelady Lawing ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Stasel<mailto:jstaze@comcast.net> To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] WHITLEY Bobby, Martha Elizabeth Whitley is my sister. Virgil Whitley is the s/o Jonas and Martha West Whitley; Jonas s/o Kinchen and Lucenda Reeves; Kinchen s/o Taylor and Mehilina Adams; Taylor s/o Jonas. Virgil had a sister Vallie b 1890. Joyce On May 2, 2005, at 10:35 PM, B & B West wrote: > From: Nita Lawing > Which Whitleys are your collaterals? ; > > > Hello, Nita, > Here are my collateral WHITLEYs > > Martha Elizabeth WHITLEY, b. 9 Feb 1923, d/o Virgil WHITLEY > > Vallee Belle WHITLEY, b. 1 Nov 1914, d/o Emery WHITLEY > > > There is a great number of WHITLEYs listed in the Macon Co. TN > Cemetery Book, Vol. II. > If you don't have that book, I can give you the tombstone information > if you give me some > names. > > Bobby L. West > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > This list is for sharing Macon County, TN. Genealogy! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, > TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== This list is for sharing Macon County, TN. Genealogy! <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Sue, I don't know if these Loveladys are part of my Lovelady line. Peter Shrum and Sarah Lovelady Shrum are listed on the 1860 Macon County, TN Census but are not on the 1850 Macon County Census. The 1850 Census shows Sarah Lovelady as being born in SC. I have not tracked my Loveladys to SC as yet. Sorry I can't be of more help. Nita Lovelady Lawing ----- Original Message ----- From: MacBeth<mailto:macbeth@greatlakes.net> To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] LOVELADY Hi My name is Sue Boyle and I am a descendant of Pleasant Franklin Shrum whos parents were Peter Shrum and Sarah (Becky) Lovelady I believe Sarahs fathers name was John I have lots of information on the Shrums but only those two names in the LoveLady line. Let me know if you have any information on Sarahs family thanks n god bless Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net<mailto:geefer@sti.net>> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:50 AM Subject: [TNMACON] LOVELADY > From: Nita Lawing > Nita Lovelady Lawing > > > Regarding the LOVELADY in your signature. > Are you connected to the John LOVELADY line of early Smith Co./Macon Co. TN? > > Bobby L. West > > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson want you to > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson invite you to -- <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Anna, Yes, Mary J., Henr Elbridge, & Nathaniel are the children of Pleasant Henry and Harriet B. Cage Butrum. James David, William Thomas, Lucy, Rachel A., Benjamin Allen, Jacob B., Pleasant Henry, Jr., John Jackson & Bishop Alvin are the children of Pleasant Henry & Lucinda Drive Butrum. Am I spelling 'Butrum' correctly? I notice you spell your name differently. I have the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910 Macon County Census Books, also the "Macon County, Tennessee History & Families" book. I am still going through all of this material. Do you have the spouse's name for Mary J., Lucy, Rachel A. Bishop Alvin? Also the death date of Lucinda Driver Butrum. Thanks for any help you can provide. Nita Lovelady Lawing ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna L Bertram<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net> To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM Nita, Thank you! Yes these names are familiar. Most of them are sons of Pleasant and Lucinda BUTRAM or Pleasant and Harriet Cage BUTRAM. May I help you with information on any of them? I may have details you don't. Appreciate it! Sincerely, Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nita Lawing" <TNAncestor@msn.com<mailto:TNAncestor@msn.com>> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM > Anna, > I have some Butrams in my collaterals: > > Benjamin Allen, Bishop Alvin, Eva Mabel, Henry Elbridge, Jacob B., James David, John Jackson, John S., Lucinda, Lucy, Mary, Nathaniel, Pleasant Henry, Pleasant Henry, Jr., Rachel A., Sarah, Wiley J., William, William Thomas BUTRAMS. Are any of these names familiar? Thanks. > > Nita Lovelady Lawing > Sahuarita, AZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anna L Bertram<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net<mailto:abertram@heartoftn.net>> > To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:43 AM > Subject: [TNMACON] MINTZ MINCE BUTRAM > > > Sandy, > > Are you researching MINTZ MINCE? If so, could it also have been spelled > MOUNCE and MOUNTS or MOUNTZ at one time? > > I am a BUTRAM researcher but have reason why I am interested in this < M > > name! > > Anna Bertram > > ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET<mailto:ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET<mailto:ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET<mailto:ABERTRAM@HEARTOFTN.NET>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sandym717 > > I have a Mary (Martha) West that was married to William Mintz/Mince in > Smith > > Co., Tn, she was the daughter of Rubin J. West and Midia Bryant, do you > know > > anything about this family? > > > > Sandy > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > Connect to distant cousins! > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > SHARE YOUR MACON COUNTY FAMILY DATA WITH OTHERS AND CONNECT TO DISTANT COUSINS.... > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A> > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Bobby, I am not sure. I have a John Culbert Lovelady (Jun 1860, Simpson Co., KY; M: Josephine Lowry in 1882 in Sumner Co., TN) in my Lovelady line but they are mostly from Sumner County, TN & Simpson County, KY (some migrating to Texas). This John Lovelady is the son of Aaron Lovelady. I have not yet tied them to the Macon County Loveladys. Thanks. Nita Lovelady Lawing ----- Original Message ----- From: B & B West<mailto:geefer@sti.net> To: TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:50 PM Subject: [TNMACON] LOVELADY From: Nita Lawing Nita Lovelady Lawing Regarding the LOVELADY in your signature. Are you connected to the John LOVELADY line of early Smith Co./Macon Co. TN? Bobby L. West ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson want you to <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon<http://www.tngennet.org/macon>"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE WEBPAGE!</A>

Any chance you know anything about the Joines? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sogturtle@aol.com> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [TNMACON] LOVELADY > Hello Sue~ > > My name is Tim Cohea, I'm a descendant of Asa Joiner (or Joyner) > Shrum, the "just-younger" brother of Pleasant Franklin Shrum. I can't say > that I > have a lot of info on the Loveladys either, I had a hard time tracking > them. > Tracked them back to their former states though. > > Are you a descendant of Pleasant Franklin and his first or second > wife?? Of course you know that his first wife was the younger sister of > Asa > Joiner's wife don't you?? In the long ago past I had contact with a couple > of the > descendants of Pleasant Franklin who were, well "double-cousin" > descendants to > me and my clan. One of them was kind enough to share the photo of Pleasant > Franklin in his Civil War uniform with me (in 8x10 form no less!!), a nice > looking man though he looks for the world like one of my own uncles!!! > Pathetically nobody anywhere in my clan has EVER seen a picture of Asa > Joiner Shrum! Or > of ol' Peter and Sarah Shrum either, oh! and my preacher-grandmother > insisted > that Sarah's name was Becky Lovelady too!. I'd enjoy hearing from you, and > anything you had to share, > > > Take > care, > > Tim Cohea > > In a message dated 5/3/2005 8:09:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > macbeth@greatlakes.net writes: > >> Hi >> >> My name is Sue Boyle >> and I am a descendant of Pleasant Franklin Shrum >> >> whos parents were Peter Shrum and Sarah (Becky) Lovelady >> I believe Sarahs fathers name was John >> >> I have lots of information on the Shrums but only those two names in the >> LoveLady line. >> >> Let me know if you have any information on Sarahs family >> >> thanks n god bless >> Sue >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "B & B West" <geefer@sti.net> >> To: <TNMACON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:50 AM >> Subject: [TNMACON] LOVELADY >> >> >> > From: Nita Lawing >> > Nita Lovelady Lawing >> > >> > >> > Regarding the LOVELADY in your signature. >> > Are you connected to the John LOVELADY line of early Smith Co./Macon >> > Co. >> TN? >> > >> > Bobby L. West >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== >> > Shelta Shrum and Barbara Hutchinson want you to >> > <A HREF="http://www.tngennet.org/macon">VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, >> > TENNESSEE >> WEBPAGE!</A> >> > > > > > > ==== TNMACON Mailing List ==== > <a href="http://www.tngennet.org/macon"> VISIT THE MACON COUNTY, TENNESSEE > WEBPAGE!</A> > > >