Yeah, the Princess term will get a hearty he-he from most circles, as hierarchy in tribal society wasn't termed like Euorpean aristocracy. But that doesn't mean she did not hold a position of honor and respect within the society. Women, especially Cherokee women were held in high respect and their word was often gospel when making tribal decisions. To understand this, all children belonged to the mother and her clan, making her a head of household. There were actually women, regardless of age who were highly revered and on occasion considered sacred. Now, I'll be quiet. HA! > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:11:43 -0700 > From: rjtallman@verizon.net > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > Hi All, > > I have been following the discussions on DNA with interest. I agree with Donnie Porter's comments and would like to share my personal DNA experience with the group. > > I am the moderator for the Rootsweb Tallman List and we had subscribed to DNA testing > with FTDNA, both Y and mtDNA. I can't fault FTDNA for their work, but I do have reservations of how people apply the information to their genealogical data. If you read the fine print, identical matches are not a 100% guarentee that the individuals are related, but rather a high probability. If that's OK with you, fine. I consider it a guide for further research. I prefer the dusty and moldy old records. > > > I also did mtDNA search for my native American line. My Dad told me that his Grandmother was a Cherokee Princess. I used that comment at Cherokee Web site and was laughed at. Seems an Indian Princess is not a complimentory term. Regarding the mtDNA, one needs an uninterupted female line, which I had. I was advised that all I could expect was a NO or a MAYBE. So, I'm still at "MAYBE" and stonewalled. > > I'll join Donnie and keep my mouth shut. > > Bob Tallman > > > Sun, 10/4/09, Donnie F. Porter <scotsman@cafes.net> wrote: > > > From: Donnie F. Porter <scotsman@cafes.net> > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 3:56 PM > > > Donna, > > > > The Y DNA is strictly passed along from father to son, MOSTLY unchanged > (except for the occasional single-marker mutation), generation after > generation. The mother plays no part at all in the yDNA and none of her > genes are represented in any Y comparison - that's why the person having the > test must be a male direct descendant for this to work. Any male having the > yDNA test will be testing only the Y chromosome. > > > > Children, both male and female, inherit all of their mitochondrial DNA (or > mtDNA) from their mother. All of a mother's sons will bear only her mtDNA > and, because they are biologically incapable of passing that along to their > offspring, male OR female, it dies with them. Biologically, the male can > pass on nothing but yDNA. > > > > The genetic test for Indian ancestry is indeed a separate test. > > > > Now I'll leave the Indian ancestry question to others on the list, BUT - I > would THINK that any positive test for Indian ancestry in the yDNA would > mean that the progenitor of that particular male line was a full blood > Indian. Again I would THINK that any other Indian genetic influence in any > direct male European, Asian, or African line would be the result of mtDNA of > the maternal ancestry a particular generation. > > > > I'd like to hear more from someone on the LCT list who's actually had a > genetic test for Indian ancestry, or who's explored it and knows more about > it. I have some Indian ancestry myself but it is in my grandfather's > maternal line and I wouldn't THINK it would show up in me at all. > > > > ?????????????? > > > Now I promise to be quiet this time! > > Donnie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Hanlon" <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> > To: "LCT list" <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:14 PM > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > > > When different markers appear in the Y comparisons, is that maybe a dominant > gene from possibly a mother? When you are testing Y DNA, most of the markers > will appear the same for each generation, right? Bascially this proves that > the person you tested will display the same markers as the generations > preceding him. any variations from that would be possibly a dominent or > recessive gene picked up along the way or possibly doubled or negated at > some point? Clear as mud, huh? > > > > Since my tree does not branch much, I may have some interesting results. My > great grandparents had in common the same ancestor, about 2 generations > apart. But, thankfully, I don't have 6 webbed toes per foot. > > > > I really appreciate you all taking the time to answer my questions. Many > thanks. Donna > > > > Will be getting back to you more in the future, as it seems I am related to > half of Lincoln ct. by blood or marriage. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/