Please don't confuse "information" with "media". The old census data (information) was preserved and archived on paper (media). I am sure that the 2010 census data (information) will be also be preserved....only this time on computer discs (media). And I'm sure, some time after most of us have passed, it will all be available to future generations on line. Heck, I'll even bet iPhones will have an "app" for that! Relax ----- Original Message ----- From: <tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com> To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Re 2010 census blog (Donna Hanlon) > 2. Re: Re 2010 census blog (Marleen Van Horne) > 3. Re: Re 2010 census blog (Donna Hanlon) > 4. 1890,1930 & 2010 Census (Julia Molitz) > 5. Re: 1890,1930 & 2010 Census (Sam Jobe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:21:08 -0600 > From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Re 2010 census blog > To: LCT list <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <SNT139-w5338371DA873F02CCB8909C73C0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Makes you wonder the reasoning behind destroying a very important document > like this one when they supposedly still have the partially destroyed 1930 > in storage. If it is too big to keep, that is understandable, but > microfilm copies don't take much room.... Should there be an uprising of > public sentiment to preserve the documents. A few years ago, wasn't there > some kind of similar situation about the 1930? > >> From: Quickcrunch@aol.com >> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:07:08 -0500 >> To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [TNLINCOL] Re 2010 census blog >> >> The below link, as given by Leatherman, will take you there. I was just >> there without any problem. Perhaps if the link as posted by Rootsweb has >> an >> extra character before the first h and another at the end you will need >> to >> copy between them or delete them before a copy and paste into your ISP >> line, >> or before hitting it within the post as a link... >> >> Yes, censuses are important down the line. My grandmother was trying to >> obtain a delayed birth certificate as she needed to prove her birth was >> in >> 1878; she had two of the criteria and needed one more. She did not >> realize >> she was on the 1880 census where her age/birth year matched up with her >> other >> criteria. We did not discover this until after she had passed on. >> Aileen >> >> _http://blog.capecodgensoc.org/2010/02/save-2010-census-no-images-to-be.html >> _ >> (http://blog.capecodgensoc.org/2010/02/save-2010-census-no-images-to-be.html) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:34:12 -0800 > From: Marleen Van Horne <msvnhrn@jps.net> > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Re 2010 census blog > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4B8BDE74.2070101@jps.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > My understanding is that the 1930 census, was first water damaged when > the water used to put out a fire in the Department of Commerce building > flowed into the basement where the census was stored. A number of years > later some dim bulb in the government, sent the mess to the dump, about > 1938. Only a few fragmented counties remain, and they are available if > you are so lucky to have ancestors who lived in those places. > > As to the 2010 census, again my understanding is that only a sampling of > households will be sent the full form with the type of questions, the > answers to which are useful to genealogists. The rest of us will get > short forms that only address the statistics they are looking for. > > I personally think this is a great rip off of the American people by > more dim bulb bureaucrats. My inclination is not to respond. If people > who object to the shoddy job that is planned, boycott the census, they > may have to rethink what they are doing. > > Marleen Van Horne > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:50:53 -0600 > From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Re 2010 census blog > To: LCT list <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <SNT139-w56F34F81724F159315E29EC73C0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I totally agree about the level of IQ involved in the handling of the > census and it value when not everyone will receive the same level of > questions. How can this be a fair assessment of our population, vital > statistics and diversity? However, since it is a government mandated info > collection, I wonder if we have the right to refuse to answer the > questions. By the same token, they(govt) relies on our honesty in filling > out the blanks with the truth and nothing but the truth. I can see some > real flaws in the system. Now they have you on GPS, so if you fail to > return the form, I guess they hunt you down. Just my humble opinion. > > We filled them out in1990, 2000. Don't remember even getting one in the > years prior. We lived in the same house from 1967-1991. Looking forward to > the 1940 being released. Not sure when it will be available to us tho. > >> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:34:12 -0800 >> From: msvnhrn@jps.net >> To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Re 2010 census blog >> >> My understanding is that the 1930 census, was first water damaged when >> the water used to put out a fire in the Department of Commerce building >> flowed into the basement where the census was stored. A number of years >> later some dim bulb in the government, sent the mess to the dump, about >> 1938. Only a few fragmented counties remain, and they are available if >> you are so lucky to have ancestors who lived in those places. >> >> As to the 2010 census, again my understanding is that only a sampling of >> households will be sent the full form with the type of questions, the >> answers to which are useful to genealogists. The rest of us will get >> short forms that only address the statistics they are looking for. >> >> I personally think this is a great rip off of the American people by >> more dim bulb bureaucrats. My inclination is not to respond. If people >> who object to the shoddy job that is planned, boycott the census, they >> may have to rethink what they are doing. >> >> Marleen Van Horne >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:59:07 -0800 > From: "Julia Molitz" <jmolitz@cox.net> > Subject: [TNLINCOL] 1890,1930 & 2010 Census > To: "TNLINCOL" <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <CEAB420998DB422DA9F55BA760527302@Julia> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > List members, > > Let us not forget what the census is for. It is not for genealogy or > knowing how many TV's or bathrooms one has. It is to determine the > district lines for Congressmen to represent that district or how many > Congressmen a state must have. There are districts that change in 10 > years. There may be more or less people living in an individual district > therefore lines may be redrawn. Or there may be more or less people in a > state, so the state may lose or gain a Congressman. By not answering the > 2010 census could throw off the count and one may not wish for their > district to be incorporated with another or lose a Congressman. > > This is the reason I believe that the 2010 census should be kept on micro > film. It would be a paper trail that would show if fraud was used to over > count or under count. Using the census for genealogy is like icing on a > cake. A wonderful side benefit for us. > > Census records are released to the public ever 12 years. The 1930 census > is complete & on line at several genealogy sites for a cost. The 1890 > census is the one that is incomplete. The 1900 & 1910 census are damaged > on some pages. > > The way to try to get the 2010 census on microfilm is to contact your > Senator and Congressman using genealogy only as a side talking point. If > you do not fill out the form & mail it in a census worker will come to > your house. I am going to make a copy of my filled out & signed census > form for a paper trail. I may be the only one :-( > > One thing may happen. The Mormon Church may step in to microfilm the > census, if they can. If they pay to do so I am sure there will be more > than one Congressman who will be happy to get in on that deal. > > Julia > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:49:49 -0600 > From: "Sam Jobe" <SamsRoots@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] 1890,1930 & 2010 Census > To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <007a01cab978$5aab4bb0$1001e310$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > List Members, > Hopefully with all the interest in Genealogy lately, like the two series > on > TV > Will attract more folks to research their heritage and strengthening our > voice on issues > Like this. Just my opinion. > Thanks for listening, > Sam Jobe > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Julia Molitz > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:59 PM > To: TNLINCOL > Subject: [TNLINCOL] 1890,1930 & 2010 Census > > List members, > > Let us not forget what the census is for. It is not for genealogy or > knowing how many TV's or bathrooms one has. It is to determine the > district > lines for Congressmen to represent that district or how many Congressmen a > state must have. There are districts that change in 10 years. There may > be > more or less people living in an individual district therefore lines may > be > redrawn. Or there may be more or less people in a state, so the state may > lose or gain a Congressman. By not answering the 2010 census could throw > off the count and one may not wish for their district to be incorporated > with another or lose a Congressman. > > This is the reason I believe that the 2010 census should be kept on micro > film. It would be a paper trail that would show if fraud was used to over > count or under count. Using the census for genealogy is like icing on a > cake. A wonderful side benefit for us. > > Census records are released to the public ever 12 years. The 1930 census > is > complete & on line at several genealogy sites for a cost. The 1890 census > is the one that is incomplete. The 1900 & 1910 census are damaged on some > pages. > > The way to try to get the 2010 census on microfilm is to contact your > Senator and Congressman using genealogy only as a side talking point. If > you do not fill out the form & mail it in a census worker will come to > your > house. I am going to make a copy of my filled out & signed census form > for > a paper trail. I may be the only one :-( > > One thing may happen. The Mormon Church may step in to microfilm the > census, if they can. If they pay to do so I am sure there will be more > than > one Congressman who will be happy to get in on that deal. > > Julia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to > TNLINCOL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TNLINCOL mailing list, send an email to > TNLINCOL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 > *************************************** >